interviewer: do you know anything about El Dorado? 741: Well what about it? interviewer: well uh I went down there uh yesterday after and after I left here just to scout around a bit and I saw some kind of well 741: #1 oil well # interviewer: #2 {X} # are those those the oil wells #1 down there # 741: #2 mm-hmm # interviewer: well I'll be darned {X} 741: Right it there's uh oil along in here somewhere #1 out there. # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: We're hoping someday they'll find it here. interviewer: {X} this uh oil well there you know that's unattended. #1 mm-hmm # 741: #2 It was just # interviewer: pumping away. 741: #1 They had a # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: real oil boom uh back before I can remember but somewhere back in there. interviewer: do you have any idea what size town El Dorado is? 741: Pretty good size town uh but I don't really know. I'd say like thirty thousand I'm guessing. interviewer: uh-huh let's see I was gonna ask you about the uh outside covering of an ear of corn you call that the 741: Shuck. interviewer: what about that part that grows right out the top 741: The silks. interviewer: is that uh uh when I think of silks I think of uh 741: The hair #1 hairy looking. # interviewer: #2 yeah right on the # cob you know that you brush #1 off but # 741: #2 Yeah. # interviewer: you know when it's growing it's still on the on the stalk there's a the stuff that uh grows right out the top of it and I think some people distinguish it have you ever heard it called the tassel the corn tassel? 741: mm-mm interviewer: have you ever heard uh of corn that's tender enough to be eaten right off the cob called anything in particular 741: Just corn off the cob. interviewer: {X} you ever heard people around here talk about roasting ears 741: Mm yes I have but I didn't know that that was the connotation. interviewer: what about this uh big thing that uh people buy around Halloween you know 741: #1 The pumpkin? # interviewer: #2 make jack # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # or this vegetable that most of it's yellow with a crook neck. 741: Squash. interviewer: what about some different types of melons 741: #1 Watermelon. # interviewer: #2 uh # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 741: Cantaloupe. Honeydew melon. It's all I think of right now. interviewer: are there different colored uh {D: meats} as far as watermelons are concerned? 741: There's red and yellow interviewer: red and yellow 741: Mostly red. interviewer: {NW} you know if there's any way to to tell what color you got other than to 741: mm-mm interviewer: {NW} without cutting it. 741: mm-mm Now there may be but I don't know what it is. interviewer: what about these small things that are about this size sometimes you see 'em growing wild in people's yards they kinda look like uh uh umbrellas that are open you know they have a slender stalk and they're wide at the top looks like a little 741: #1 Mushroom? # interviewer: #2 umbrella # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # is there is there a type 741: #1 well I mean a # interviewer: #2 of that # 741: Toadstool. interviewer: is that the same thing to you? 741: No. interviewer: {X} what's the 741: They're well they {NW} they're uh toadstools are not edible mushrooms are toadstools are poisonous. interviewer: well say if lemme ask you of this expression say if a man has a sore throat and his uh throat's all swollen he might say well I'd like to eat such and such but my throat's swollen and I just can't 741: Swallow. interviewer: what about these things that people smoke some people smoke some people 741: Cigarettes. interviewer: or the longer thicker 741: Cigars. interviewer: say if uh uh some people were at a party and somebody sat down to play the piano people might gather around and they begin 741: Singing. interviewer: or somebody told uh a funny story uh {NS} {X} if it was a good one everybody might start 741: Laughing. interviewer: say if uh somebody offered to do you a favor you might say well I appreciate it but I just don't wanna be 741: Obligated. interviewer: or say if somebody asked you to do a certain job you might say well sure I do that 741: I'll be glad to. interviewer: or or say if uh you're not able to do something you might say well I'd like to but I just 741: Can't. However let me qualify that uh. I've worked on {X} can't does I gotta be honest and say can't is one of our Clark county interviewer: Can't do {NS} 741: just can't do it. {NW} Sometimes can't comes out I'm always surprised when it does #1 but it does come out. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # Right. well what about uh oh say if uh if a farmer was looking at his corn and uh it seemed unusually short for this time of year you might say something like well that's funny at this time of year it to be taller 741: Ought to be taller. interviewer: or what about uh say if uh if you heard hear of a boy who got a spanking you might say well I'll bet he did something he 741: #1 Shouldn't have. # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # ever hear people say oughtn't have? 741: Probably. interviewer: say uh if you're refusing to do something in a very strong way and I say well now I don't care how many times you ask me do that I just 741: Won't. interviewer: or uh to say suggesting the possibility of your being able to do something 741: #1 I might. # interviewer: #2 you might say # {D:-ight} ever hear people around here say well I might could do that for you 741: mm-hmm Might could mm-hmm. #1 yeah # interviewer: #2 do you # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # or are you aware of yourself using that do you think 741: I probably do I'm not aware of myself doing it but I I might. {NS} interviewer: you do hear it pretty good bit around 741: #1 Oh # interviewer: #2 here # 741: yes I might could yes and that that is definitely used. interviewer: what about this uh bird that is supposed to be able to see in the dark makes a kind of hoot you know sound 741: Oh an owl. {C: crashing noise} {NS} interviewer: yeah do you know about different types of uh 741: All I've heard is hoot owls and screech owls and that's about it. interviewer: do you know the difference is there a difference in size 741: #1 I have no idea. # interviewer: #2 {D: or anything say no} # idea okay well what about this bird that drills holes in trees 741: Woodpeckers. interviewer: you ever heard them called anything else? 741: Peckerwoods. interviewer: have you ever heard a person call another person peckerwood 741: Yes I have. interviewer: what is that supposed to mean? any idea? 741: No. interviewer: don't know would it be a flattering term 741: #1 Uh it's not a flattering # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: term but it's usually an affectionate term. interviewer: is that right 741: {D: They say} oh that peckerwood didn't you know just like that old so and so but it's usually it's not usually used with an enemy around here it's usually a uh good buddy. interviewer: well what about uh uh this animal has black fur with a white stripe down 741: #1 A skunk. # interviewer: #2 its back # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # call those anything else? people around here ever say polecat? 741: Have you heard polecat used and I know that it's that that is a word for skunk but I I don't I don't really think they use it. Polecat is not common usage for it. interviewer: well is there 741: #1 But now they'll # interviewer: #2 something # 741: call a person a polecat. interviewer: Okay. 741: It means he smells bad. interviewer: #1 {NW} Is that right? # 741: #2 Right. # interviewer: well is there something like a skunk uh or a polecat except uh a little bit different still get some of that bad odor 741: #1 That bad smell? # interviewer: #2 you know # yeah 741: I don't not that I know of. There prob- may be. interviewer: have you ever heard of a civet cat? 741: A what? interviewer: civet cat 741: No. interviewer: well that that that's that's funny because I had never heard of a civet cat before I came to Arkansas 741: Well spell it. interviewer: oh now I can't now how do you spell that it's uh it's either C-E or C-I-V-I-T. civet 741: Never heard of that. interviewer: it's well it's like a skunk but it's very similar to a skunk but instead of a solid white stripe down its back it it the stripes are abbreviated you know they're kind of broken up so it's more spotted 741: hmm interviewer: than it is. 741: #1 Never heard of that. # interviewer: #2 {D: saw} # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # they're around here there are all different ones but uh glad I ran into a native of Arkansas who didn't know what it was either feel pretty ignorant what about uh uh these animals with uh bushy tails that run around the trees 741: Squirrels. interviewer: Different types? {NW} 741: I have no idea. interviewer: heard people talk about uh gray squirrel or a fox squirrel 741: Tree squirrels uh. I have heard of different kinds but I've really never paid much attention. interviewer: well is there something like a squirrel except uh doesn't climb trees doesn't 741: #1 Ground squirrel. # interviewer: #2 {D: have it} # ground squirrel is that the same thing as what somebody might call a chipmunk? do you know 741: I have no idea. interviewer: {X} 741: I didn't think it was. I haven't seen chipmunks around here. Or I don't believe we have 'em. interviewer: well what do you know what some of the common of fresh water fish are they're 741: {D: Crappie and brim and and uh} catfish and and perch and trout. interviewer: what about some say seafood that's available in stores 741: Shrimp and lobster and uh crab and uh ocean catfish. interviewer: what about these things you know you hear about being served on a half shell 741: Oysters. interviewer: what about 741: #1 You can't # interviewer: #2 uh # 741: get those in a store here. interviewer: oh yeah 741: You can get 'em in Little Rock and some of the restaurants in uh Hot Springs have 'em flown in. interviewer: really? 741: But you can't you can't uh you can't buy 'em in a store. Oh well you might get canned but who would want 'em? interviewer: yeah {NW} what about uh this animal that stays around water a lot and makes a croaking noise 741: Frog. interviewer: is there anything that you call the the type of frog that does stay around water uh you ever heard it called anything particular 741: All I've heard of #1 bullfrogs and # interviewer: #2 bullfrogs # 741: and uh of course we eat frog #1 legs. # interviewer: #2 Right. # right I noticed that on a lot of menus in 741: #1 Oh they # interviewer: #2 restaurants. # 741: #1 {X} # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: Have you eaten any? interviewer: no I haven't 741: They're really good. It took me years to particularly after I had gone through the anatomy lab interviewer: yeah 741: And we had had to you know do these little interviewer: watch him jump 741: #1 watch 'em jump you know there wasn't any # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: way I was gonna eat a frog leg #1 but # interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 741: they really are good. interviewer: well does 741: #1 Very good. # interviewer: #2 the meat taste # similar to any other 741: Chicken. And that well they say it does it's much fishier than that but it's really good white meat. interviewer: well is there uh a different type of uh frog that you know the type that stays around your garden or just on land primarily rather than anywhere on the water like a bullfrog 741: Oh there probably are I've just little #1 Toad frogs. # interviewer: #2 toad # frogs. have you ever seen these tiny little frogs that don't grow much larger than that uh some people say they come out after a storm you know 741: Right they do. Or well they they do #1 show up # interviewer: #2 or it # rains. 741: #1 I can't remember I don't know # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: remember any name for 'em interviewer: ever heard 'em called tree frogs around here? or 741: I've heard tree frogs. Yeah and there are tree frogs they have little funny looking things on their what I call their fingers. interviewer: yeah 741: Toes I guess. interviewer: where do people bring people who fish around here what do they use mostly for bait any idea 741: They use minnows and uh worms. And and of course then they've got all kinds of fly tackle and interviewer: yeah 741: that kind of stuff. interviewer: have you ever heard different uh different names for those worms uh fishermen use different 741: #1 Earthworms. # interviewer: #2 names for 'em # 741: um That's all I can think of right now. interviewer: call 'em wigglers or red worms or something like that 741: I've heard 'em talking about that but I thought they were talking about an artificial bait. interviewer: what about this animal that uh you find it around the water too it has this shell you know 741: Turtle. interviewer: Turtle. what about uh the variety that's that stays on land most of the time dry land turtle 741: {X} Snapping turtles? I don't know. interviewer: Just not sure. you you ever heard people around here uh talk about terrapins? 741: Terrapin yeah. interviewer: you know what uh people in my kind part of the country call a terrapin a land turtle call it a gopher 741: A gopher? interviewer: uh-huh 741: huh interviewer: still uh you know I guess you would associate with the little rodent 741: #1 Right right I would. # interviewer: #2 furry little yeah # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # they don't have gophers in Alabama but some especially the 741: #1 I'd call 'em a a terrapin. # interviewer: #2 older people call a # terrapin a gopher. well what about this thing uh some people use these for bait they uh they're in streams got little claws on 'em 741: #1 Crawfish. # interviewer: #2 uh # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # you ever heard that called anything besides crawfish 741: Crayfish. But around here we call 'em crawfish. interviewer: ask you about some different insects you know in at night sometimes you'll see these insects flying around uh a light 741: #1 Moths. # interviewer: #2 {X} # {X} is that uh I guess that's the same thing that will uh eat holes in your #1 clothes? # 741: #2 mm-hmm # interviewer: {X} well what about this insect that uh you might see flying around at night you know blinking on and off 741: Oh uh fireflies but that's not what we call 'em. lightning bugs. interviewer: or what about this insect that uh you find around water but deep the air and they also have a long slender body and couple of pairs of transparent wings and uh you know sometimes it'll light on your pole and lantern 741: Right. interviewer: {X} 741: #1 uh # interviewer: #2 uh # 741: Dragonfly. interviewer: dragonfly ever 741: #1 Witch doctor. # interviewer: #2 heard that # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # is that what it is 741: mm-hmm Snake doctor. #1 Snake doctor. # interviewer: #2 snake doctor # 741: That's what it is. interviewer: ever heard people uh you you have any idea why they called it snake doctor 741: Have no idea. interviewer: somebody somebody gave me an explanation for that just a few days ago he said uh it's uh you're supposed to kill all the snake doctors you see because because that's what they do they'll take they'll make a sick snake well 741: #1 Oh you're kidding # interviewer: #2 {NW} # that's what he told me said they'll they'll make an injured snake well so you oughta kill all the snake doctors that you see that's the first expla- 741: #1 That's marvelous I have # interviewer: #2 nation I heard for that # 741: never heard that. in fact I've I haven't really heard 'em called uh snake doctors in years. And it just came to me interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 741: #2 you know just # and I said witch doc- then snake doctor. interviewer: ever heard those things called mosquito hawks around here 741: mm-mm interviewer: what about some insects around here that um sting 741: Bees wasps mosquitoes I say but they don't really sting. interviewer: yeah and what about these uh things that make this great big paper nest up in a tree 741: Uh th- dirt daubers. Oh wasps. interviewer: most most 741: Dirt daubers {D: they use} #1 they have # interviewer: #2 yeah # 741: the little mud things. interviewer: yeah #1 I # 741: #2 um # interviewer: usually think of uh the wasps as 741: #1 Yellow jackets. # interviewer: #2 having uh # yeah the yellow jackets some of these are kinda they they really give a bad sting if uh uh if they get after you hornets got those around here? just not sure 741: If there's any difference between a hornet and a yellow jacket and a wasp I don't know what it is. interviewer: well what about uh have you ever heard of any type of uh little insect that might burrow up under your skin make it itch 741: Chiggers. interviewer: yeah uh is that the same thing as what some people call red 741: #1 uh-huh # interviewer: #2 bugs # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # well what about uh some different types of snakes you know uh 741: Water moccasins and and uh copperheads every kind of {D: baddie} you can think of we've got it. {D: Just uh} yeah. Course we've got green snakes and and uh cotton did I say cottonmouths interviewer: {X} 741: rattlesnakes. {NW} interviewer: do you have the little coral snake around here 741: I think so I've never seen one myself. interviewer: ever heard people mention uh king snakes 741: mm-hmm interviewer: what about these uh insects that you see hopping around your yard some of 'em green some of 'em black uh 741: Grasshoppers? interviewer: you ever heard those called anything else? 741: Uh yeah I have let's see what. Mostly grasshoppers uh. interviewer: you know when we were talking about woodpeckers you said you heard uh you could call 'em peckerwoods you ever heard hoppergrass? 741: hmm-mm interviewer: never heard that these things uh that will sometimes collect in the corners of your ceiling you know that 741: #1 Spiders. # interviewer: #2 {D: have} # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # is that you know that you just have to brush it out with a something or another is that what you call it just you know it's this filmy stuff 741: #1 The spiderwebs. # interviewer: #2 uh # yeah ever heard that called anything 741: #1 Cobwebs. # interviewer: #2 besides that cobweb # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # now is that the same thing as uh what you might see outside say strung between bushes or something like that same thing 741: It's what I'd call it. It's the same thing. interviewer: what about the uh part of the tree that grows under ground you'd call that a 741: Roots. interviewer: is there a tree around here that you can uh tap for syrup? 741: Around here? Oh heavens I don't know unless it would be the sweetgum tree I have no idea. And I'm not I don't think y- I don't think that you can for that. interviewer: you don't have maples 741: #1 No. # interviewer: #2 around here # 741: Well uh we do but I don't I've never known anybody to tap it for uh for syrup. interviewer: well if you had a lot of those maples growing together you'd say you had a 741: uh interviewer: of maple 741: I wanna say an orchard but that's not what I'd say and I wouldn't say an arbor either. uh A stand of 'em. interviewer: {X} what about grove? 741: #1 Grove yeah. # interviewer: #2 {X} # here say that 741: Grove yes. interviewer: well what are some of those different types of trees that are common to 741: Well pine trees is the most common by far. Pine trees and oak trees course magnolia trees pecan trees uh dogwood very common. uh Gum trees sweetgum trees is what they call 'em. They're very pretty too they turn uh yellow and all kinds of pretty colors in the fall. uh That's the most common {D: of 'em any}. interviewer: any sycamores 741: Not too many of 'em I think not that I know of. interviewer: is there any kind of bush that it grows around here with uh these bright red berries uh you used to hear um old people using 'em in tanning leather {NW} 741: I don't know there are a lot of bushes with bright red berries there of course there are hollies and there uh oh what I call nandinas and some people call 'em nandinas {C: pronunciation} and they're uh uh there's uh oh what's that really pretty one that blooms in the fall. Pyracantha interviewer: {NW} 741: has beautiful red berries. interviewer: anything around here called a {D: shoemake}? 741: uh I I think that's I think that's what we call poison ivy that or #1 poison oak. # interviewer: #2 really? # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 741: I'm not sure. interviewer: well I'm so ignorant of plants it might very well be well what about different types of berries Auxiliary 1: mother I'm going to clean up the safe 741: Oh okay I'll be right there Mike. About five minutes. Auxiliary 1: okay I'll see you over there 741: #1 Okay. # Auxiliary 1: #2 then # 741: {NW} uh Different kind of berries strawberries blueberries blackberries raspberries um {NS} That's all I can think of right now. interviewer: Gotcha. 741: Holly berries uh. interviewer: any type of laurel growing around here? 741: Not that I know. {NS} interviewer: {D: plays half over my tape} what about rhododendron? 741: Yes there are there is some mm-hmm. Although if you asked me to find you some I probably couldn't do it but I there are people #1 who are # interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 741: into plants talking #1 about it. # interviewer: #2 yeah # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # what would you call a woman whose husband has died she would be a 741: Widow. interviewer: have you ever heard any term used to describe uh a woman whose husband hasn't died but he's just left any particular type of 741: Abandoned. I don't know. {C: laughing} interviewer: {NW} you ever heard people talk about a grass widow? 741: A grass yes I've heard that. #1 I've heard # interviewer: #2 heard that # 741: that term. interviewer: {X} what about uh when you were young what did you call your your mother 741: Mama. interviewer: what about your father 741: Daddy. interviewer: and your grandparents 741: {NW} Well I had very strange names for them. interviewer: {X} 741: I called my uh paternal grandparents Mimi and Bob. Mimi came from {D: Minnibelle} interviewer: uh-huh 741: and Bob came from that was his name. interviewer: mm-hmm 741: Robert. {B} And then my maternal grandparents I called {D: Didi} and Bonnie. And I don't know Bonnie m- my grandmother Bonnie liked she wanted that name because it meant pretty. uh But um {D: Didi} they don't have any idea why I started calling him {D: Didi} But that's what I called him and then all the rest you know I was the oldest grandchild everyone else called him {D: Didi} too. interviewer: {X} well say if uh a child has a 741: Oh that's the this might I don't know if it'd be interesting or #1 not but my father # interviewer: #2 {D: sure go head} # 741: called his mother {D: Mamia}. The same one I called uh Mimi. interviewer: sounds a little Italian what about uh a name that a child is known by oh say just by members of his own family they've given him a name and 741: Pet name. interviewer: pet name or what about this thing that uh is that your phone? 741: That's my daughter's phone. interviewer: {X} uh this thing with wheels that you can put a baby in it and you know it'll lie down and 741: Baby buggy. interviewer: baby buggy what would you say you were doing uh uh if you put the baby in you might say well I think I'll take the baby buggy and go out 741: For a walk. interviewer: For a walk. 741: I wouldn't say perambulate #1 or anything like that. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # roll the baby or something have you ever heard that roll it around or 741: Uh well I'm sure I have uh we just just say go for a walk. interviewer: go for a 741: Or we'll go for a ride one or the other. Although we usually use strollers and not baby buggies. Baby buggies have really gone out. interviewer: what is that is that uh you mentioned perambulator is that contracted to pram seems like 741: I think it probably it is it's not a term that's used #1 in this part # interviewer: #2 yeah # 741: of the country. interviewer: well what about a woman who's uh about to have a baby you'd say she's 741: Pregnant. interviewer: anything else you've heard 741: #1 Full term. # interviewer: #2 that # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # what 741: Full term. interviewer: {X} 741: if she's just about to well you're getting into medicine now interviewer: #1 Oh. # 741: #2 you're gonna you're gonna. # interviewer: now but that that's technical 741: #1 That's a technical term. # interviewer: #2 term this I # see 741: Oh I maybe but it's one used by medical people. interviewer: yeah I never heard that before 741: She's full term that means she's gonna have it the baby's ready. interviewer: well it are there any other expressions besides uh pregnant that you've uh heard people use around here 741: P-G uh expecting. uh interviewer: you ever heard uh people say well so and so's in the family way 741: yes but that's interviewer: {NW} 741: that just the older #1 people really antiquated right. # interviewer: #2 kinda antiquated uh-huh # 741: mm-hmm interviewer: well have you ever heard anybody say well so and so swallowed a pumpkin seed or something 741: #1 Yes I've heard that that's also antiquated. # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # what would you call a if a doctor's not available to deliver uh sometimes a woman might be 741: #1 Midwife. # interviewer: #2 called in # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # ever heard her called anything else? 741: I think so but I'm not sure. interviewer: {D: granny woman} 741: #1 No not. # interviewer: #2 never heard never # 741: mm-mm interviewer: this expression uh say if a boy has a same color hair and eyes as his father maybe his nose is shaped the 741: #1 The spitting # interviewer: #2 same # 741: image. interviewer: yeah or you might say well the boy his father. 741: Takes after his father. interviewer: or say if uh a woman has taken care of three children until after they're fully grown you'd say that she's 741: Raised 'em. interviewer: if uh the child has been misbehaving you might tell him now well if you do that again I'm gonna give you a good 741: Whipping. #1 I'm gonna say I'll # interviewer: #2 anything # 741: wear you out. interviewer: {NW} 741: or turn you over to my checkered apron. interviewer: {NW} 741: not that I've ever had a checkered apron but that's an old {C: laughing} expression. interviewer: checkered apron yeah well what about say if uh a boy has uh oh two inches taller this year than he was last year you might say well my goodness you sure have 741: Grown. interviewer: what would you call a child that's born to an unmarried woman it'd be a what 741: I'd call it an it- illegitimate child I don't interviewer: ever heard any other 741: oh bastard or uh I'm s- I think they've got other terms than too. interviewer: ever heard one called a woods colt? 741: No. interviewer: Never heard that? 741: No. interviewer: what about a volunteer? 741: No. {C: laughing} #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 741: A volunteer. {C: laughing} #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 741: #1 that's pretty good. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 741: {NW} interviewer: makes sense 741: Yes it's true just little surprise. interviewer: what about uh uh if you're you had a brother and he had a son that son would be your 741: Nephew. interviewer: and if your mother had a sister she would be your 741: Aunt. interviewer: what do you call a child that's lost its parents it's a 741: Uh it's an orphan. interviewer: and the adult that's appointed to look af- 741: #1 The guardian. # interviewer: #2 -ter # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # say if your house were uh full of people like your uncles and aunts and cousins and nieces people like that you'd say the house is full of your 741: Relatives. interviewer: you {D: need} a anything else? 741: Kin but I'd I wouldn't really use it. I mean I've I hear it but it's it's full of relatives. I I would say relatives. #1 Or kinfolks. # interviewer: #2 well what about yeah # 741: Now my now my grandfather would have said kinfolks. interviewer: mm-hmm 741: That he always talked about kinfolks. Which is another term that uh that I thought of after you left that is uh which I'm sure is all over the South uh and it's the meaning of it's being lost now that's the wor- the our meaning for folks what folks interviewer: yeah 741: #1 are # interviewer: #2 yeah # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # person's folks meaning his relatives. 741: His relatives and also someone who is folks as opposed to someone who is not #1 folks. # interviewer: #2 yeah # 741: #1 You know and uh # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: even my generation a lot of people have no idea what that term means. interviewer: well do you use people in the same way so and so's people 741: Yeah people for relatives. interviewer: #1 {X} # 741: #2 uh-huh # Their folks. Uh fact I still use folks interchangeable with relatives even more than I do kin. interviewer: Hmm right. well what about uh this expression say if somebody's telling you about somebody who who looks a good deal like you you might say well that might be so but actually I'm no to her 741: Uh I might I would say kin to her. I would say kin to her. I'm no or I'm not related but I'd u- I would probably say I'm no kin to her. interviewer: well say if someone who comes into town uh that nobody's ever seen before you'd call him a 741: Newcomer. Stranger. interviewer: or say somebody who comes in from another country he would be a 741: Foreigner. interviewer: and would you necess- would you ever use the word foreigner uh to describe somebody who's not necessarily from another country have you ever heard people do that? 741: No I I don't think so I may have but I don't. interviewer: have you ever heard some old timer say well he's just a ol' foreigner 741: Foreigner {C: pronunciation} yeah. interviewer: {NW} 741: Uh-huh uh yeah I have heard that #1 too right. # interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # what about uh do you need to go somewhere? 741: I'm going {X} {D: just we talk} I've I alwa- I enjoy this {D: so yes} I do need to go over to {D: clean}. We we've everyone in the cast is taking turns cleaning up the #1 stage and it's our turn so I # interviewer: #2 I see I see # 741: I'm gonna have to. interviewer: well you just say when 741: Okay. Well maybe five more minutes. interviewer: okay 741: Poor Mike he's probably over there by himself. {X} interviewer: ask you some proper names uh say uh if you could give me a few names for women beginning with the letter M first names 741: Okay Mary Marianne Martha. uh interviewer: okay that's good what about N 741: Nancy. uh {NW} Can't think of anything with an N. #1 uh # interviewer: #2 this is a # good old standard name for a cow that a lot of farmers use with an N I guess well I suppose it would be short for Helen uh 741: Nelly? interviewer: or what about uh a boy's name beginning with a B some people 741: Bobby. interviewer: or uh short for William would be 741: Bo- uh no Bill. interviewer: and the diminutive would be 741: Billy. interviewer: what about uh a man's name with an M 741: #1 With an # interviewer: #2 uh # 741: M? interviewer: uh-huh Matt would be short for 741: Matt? interviewer: would be short for 741: Matthew. interviewer: you ever heard any old-fashioned terms for a woman who teaches school? 741: Schoolmarm. interviewer: is that ever used have you ever heard 741: #1 I have never heard that used. # interviewer: #2 that used never # 741: Or well {C: laughing} now now I won't say that now but it's a very possibly I probably have heard my grandfather or somebody like that use it. I've never heard my father or any of his generation use it. interviewer: do you remember the the American author who wrote uh The Leatherstocking Tales uh James Fenimore 741: Cooper. interviewer: how would you address a married woman by who had that last name 741: {D: miss Cooper.} I know some people say Cooper {C: pronunciation} but it's Cooper as far as I know around here. We also have another unusual uh I think it's unusual the word G-R-O-S-S as a proper name. interviewer: how do you say that? 741: Around here it's gross. interviewer: really? 741: uh-huh interviewer: {X} 741: That's Gross feed mill down there. They're also a old Arkadelphia family. interviewer: huh well what have you ever heard of uh oh say a a preacher who wasn't really trained to be a preacher really wasn't very good at it uh kinda did it on the side uh ever heard that 741: #1 An itinerant. # interviewer: #2 uh # 741: Itinerant preacher or something like that. interviewer: any other expression maybe not s- not very flattering for a preacher like that uh 741: I can't think of it now. interviewer: ever heard people talk about a jackleg preacher? 741: I've heard 'em talk about jackleg lots of things #1 or even Jake leg. # interviewer: #2 yeah # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # Jake leg. 741: which means that they're kind of amateurs. interviewer: you ever heard a mechanic uh described in some similar way 741: mm-hmm Mechanic the same just the same way Jake leg mechanic or Jake leg. Or jackleg well mostly jackleg. interviewer: {X} 741: uh Anything carpenter whatever someone that's an amateur. #1 or # interviewer: #2 you ever # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # ever heard people talk about a shadetree mechanic 741: mm-mm interviewer: Never heard that? what about uh getting back to names for a minute uh 741: But I heard that mostly from my husband he's from Missouri. interviewer: is that right 741: mm-hmm interviewer: wait was that Jake leg? 741: Jake leg. interviewer: what about uh the name for a {NS} beginning with an S {NS} could you say that again I think 741: Sally. Sarah. interviewer: uh what what do people around here call the war between the north and the south 741: Civil War. interviewer: Civil War you ever heard it called anything else? 741: The war between the states. But Civil War's what it most people call it. interviewer: have you ever heard anybody around here call it the war of northern aggression {NW} 741: Only in American history #1 courses. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} yeah from a southern 741: #1 Right. # interviewer: #2 bias # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # what about the the commander of the southern army that was 741: Oh you mean Robert E. Lee? interviewer: what was his range? 741: {X} Hello? Okay I'm not sure when we can come get it but we will. Okay thank you. {NS} interviewer: or you know this advertisement the commercial on the T-V for Kentucky fried chicken 741: mm-hmm interviewer: the old gentleman 741: #1 The colonel. # interviewer: #2 who # colonel well what about uh a man who uh uh is in charge of a ship you would call him the 741: Captain. interviewer: and the man who's in uh presides over the county court would be the 741: The county courts the county judge. interviewer: and a person who goes to college to study you'd say he's a 741: College student. {C: laughing} {NW} interviewer: or what about a woman who takes care of the boss's mail and typing and all that 741: #1 Secretary. # interviewer: #2 is # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # or say uh a woman who oh appears on stage she would be an 741: Actress. interviewer: and our nationality we're both 741: American. interviewer: and what about uh what would you call uh say the members of uh the other prevalent race in the South 741: #1 The black race or # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: negro race. Now I would have said negro. I mean negro is my original pronunciation. interviewer: have any idea what they would prefer to be referred to as 741: Oh right now it appears to be black. interviewer: black and they would definitely not like to be called 741: Negro I don't b- imagine. interviewer: #1 is there anything besides negro # 741: #2 And then # nigger. I that's not a word that we use. Well I use but it's certainly used #1 quite often in this part of the country # interviewer: #2 {X} # {X} do you have any idea what you would call uh a child who was born to racially mixed parents or have you ever heard them called 741: Uh oh mulattoes and interviewer: uh-huh have you ever heard of uh old white people say who were just lazy don't like to work might 741: #1 White trash. # interviewer: #2 be on wel- # white trash would a would a white man use that term uh or a black man or would they both be likely to use it or 741: I think they'd both use it. interviewer: is there any one term that one might use that the other wouldn't? say something a black man might use to refer to white people like that that a white man wouldn't that you know of 741: There might be I don't I can't think of anything. I think white tr- I know they use white trash a lot. interviewer: have you ever heard uh white people around here referred to as crackers 741: No. Never. interviewer: well what about uh say sometimes when people from the country come into town on the weekends {NW} people in town will kinda make fun of 'em might call 'em various names have you ever heard any of 741: #1 Rednecks. # interviewer: #2 those # rednecks 741: That's the number one term interviewer: {NW} 741: Greasers. interviewer: greasers 741: Right. That's from the greasy hair you know it's been #1 um # interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 741: {NW} stylish for a long time now not to have greasy and when the country people come in they still grease their hair you know and interviewer: and don't have 741: #1 and uh the young people all call 'em # interviewer: #2 they have the wet the wet look # 741: #1 yeah the wet look # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 741: now call 'em greasers. #1 Greasers # interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 741: and rednecks. interviewer: have you ever heard people around here that say well so and so look at that old country hoosier 741: No. interviewer: haven't heard that 741: Country hick. interviewer: country hick 741: But not a country hoosier. interviewer: have you ever heard 'em called podunks 741: Podunks? No we talk we talk about uh an area they're from podunk or they're podunk junction is #1 our favorite # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 741: expression but uh interviewer: Yeah. 741: but no I haven't called 'em podunks. interviewer: yeah we can knock off right there that's a good place to stop if you got to go 741: I do ne- interviewer: you have another uh show last night? 741: Oh yes. interviewer: how'd it go? 741: It went real well. Real well. interviewer: what did you say you were putting on 741: It's called the boyfriend. interviewer: the boyfriend. I think I saw a 741: Poster #1 about it? # interviewer: #2 Yeah. # {X} 741: #1 Yeah it's a real # interviewer: #2 {D: college student} # 741: cute show. Just a real a spoof on the musicals of the twenties. interviewer: mm 741: If you wanna go ahead and ask me things it'd be fine while I'm #1 I see if I can find it. # interviewer: #2 oh okay # uh I wanna ask you some more uh expressions 741: mm-kay interviewer: say if you were at a party at night you looked at your watch and it was about eleven thirty 741: mm-hmm interviewer: you might say well my goodness we'd better be getting home it's midnight 741: Almost midnight. interviewer: or if uh say you were trying to walk on an icy sidewalk you might say well somehow I managed to keep my balance but I fell down a few times 741: Almost. interviewer: or if you and somebody else are getting ready to go downtown and uh the person might call out to you well aren't you ready yet? you might say well 741: #1 I'm almost # interviewer: #2 just # 741: I'm almost ready. interviewer: uh-huh 741: Is that what you're? interviewer: or you could say well I'll be with you in 741: Just a minute. interviewer: say if you were going somewhere and you weren't sure about the distance you might stop and ask somebody well how 741: How far is it? interviewer: or if you wanna know how many times about something you'd ask how do you do this 741: What now? interviewer: if you wanna know how many times about something like how many times this person uh uh mows his yard every week you might say 741: #1 About how often # interviewer: #2 well how # 741: do you m- mow your yard. interviewer: or say if you uh if I said well I don't think I'm gonna vote for Gerald Ford for president if you agreed with me you might say well am I 741: You said you're not gonna vote for him? I'd say neither am I. interviewer: I'll ask you about the names for a few parts of the body 741: #1 mm-kay # interviewer: #2 this # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # part right up here 741: {D: Forehead.} interviewer: mm-hmm and this is all my 741: Hair. {C: laughing} interviewer: uh-huh if I let it grow out I'm growing a 741: A beard. interviewer: and this is my 741: Ear earlobe. interviewer: uh-huh which which ear is this 741: That's just the ear and then the bottom is I'd say the earlobe and just ear. interviewer: uh-huh I've got two one of one on this side is my 741: Oh your left ear #1 and your right ear. # interviewer: #2 {D: this side} # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # and this is my 741: Lips. #1 Mouth. # interviewer: #2 talk # yeah uh-huh and talking about the back of your 741: Skull or back of your head. interviewer: or some people break their 741: Neck. interviewer: and this is my 741: Throat. interviewer: and this thing that 741: #1 Adam's apple # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # have you ever heard of that called anything else? 741: uh Besides a larynx? {NW} uh Uh probably but I not anything that comes to mind. interviewer: ever heard it called the goozle? 741: Goozle? yeah I have heard it called a goozle. interviewer: who would be likely to say that uh someone more likely some type of person more likely to say that 741: #1 I can remember # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: uh when I was a little bitty kid that my mother or father or I think it was mostly my mother would say I'm gonna get you in the goozle. interviewer: {NW} I heard one fellow tell me he called it his go fetch it 741: Go fetch it. interviewer: uh-huh well what a all of these are my 741: Teeth. interviewer: the singular is 741: Tooth. interviewer: and this fleshy part 741: Oh the gums? interviewer: and this is my 741: Hand. interviewer: and I have two 741: Hands. interviewer: this part right here 741: The palm. interviewer: and I make a 741: Fist. interviewer: and I have two 741: Fists. interviewer: sometimes when people get old uh they complain they get stiff in their 741: Joints. interviewer: and the upper part of your body is your 741: Chest. interviewer: and these are your 741: Shoulders. interviewer: and this is my left 741: Leg. interviewer: that's my left 741: Foot. interviewer: and I have two 741: Feet. interviewer: what about this part right here what do you call that 741: Shins. interviewer: what about this part oh might as well demonstrate this part right here ever heard people say they squat down on their 741: Haunches. interviewer: haunches uh-huh have you ever heard any other expression than squat down? 741: Are you talking about hunkering? interviewer: yeah 741: Well it the only reason I know anything about hunkering is because there was a big college nationwide college contest in what they call hunkering and I think it was in the sixties I don't remember just when it was but I that's e- that was my fam- how I know about hunkering. interviewer: what kinda what did it involve? 741: Just squatting #1 on your legs. # interviewer: #2 there was a # contest 741: {D: I did you} are you not familiar #1 with that? # interviewer: #2 no # 741: Oh it was nationwide it just uh well I guess it was during the sixties I'm sure because I believe it was right after we moved back from Hawaii. And they had it it was you know Time magazine Newsweek all of 'em carried it and college students and they say originated at the University of Arkansas. but it just spread all over the country and they would get down like this and see how long they could stay that way #1 and they called it hunkering. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} That's something when when was this going on you said in the 741: In the #1 sixties. # interviewer: #2 sixties # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 741: I think. interviewer: mm-hmm do they didn't you know duck walk or anything they just squatted there 741: I di- I think that's what they did I never saw anyone actually do it I just {D: saw pictures of it.} #1 And it was like # interviewer: #2 I wonder # 741: I guess like swallowing goldfish or #1 something it was # interviewer: #2 yeah # 741: just a big rage. interviewer: I wonder what the record was for the winner 741: I don't know somebody really hunkered #1 for a long time. # interviewer: #2 yeah {NW} # {NW} 741: But I had never heard that expression until #1 until then. # interviewer: #2 yeah # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # huh uh let's see if uh say if somebody's been sick for a while you might say well so and so's up and around now but he still looks a little 741: Peaked. interviewer: heard anything else for that? 741: Oh pale a little weak you know that {D: st- that} thing. I was just trying to think of an expression I I don't can't think of any other #1 expression. # interviewer: #2 ever # heard puny? 741: Puny right. A little puny. interviewer: or say somebody who uh say a man who's real athletic and muscular and can lift heavy weights you'd say he's very he's real 741: Well-built. #1 um # interviewer: #2 or # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # you know just able to lift heavy weights boy you'd say 741: #1 Strong. # interviewer: #2 boy he sure is # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # you ever heard people say uh stout to mean the same thing? 741: I think I did years ago. interviewer: hmm 741: I I haven't in years I haven't heard but I believe yeah I believe way back in my youth I did hear people say that someone was stout. interviewer: mm-hmm 741: Could lift a heavy weight. interviewer: well say somebody who always has a smile on his face and never loses his temper you'd say well he's mighty 741: Good-natured. interviewer: or say sometimes when uh a boy reaches a certain age he seems to run into things and knock things over 741: Clumsy. Awkward. interviewer: what would you say about a person who just kept on doing things that didn't make any sense you'd say he's just a 741: Nut. I guess. {C: laughing} interviewer: could you call somebody like that uh say well he's just playing the fool 741: Not I wouldn't. interviewer: would would that be uh 741: I've probably heard people say that. interviewer: Right. 741: I think ma- {D: miss Adam} more likely. interviewer: would that be a pretty strong thing to say about a person around here? 741: Just playing fool? No. interviewer: not terribly wouldn't be fighting language 741: #1 No. # interviewer: #2 {D: someone} # 741: {NW} interviewer: well what about somebody who has a lot of money but that likes to hang onto it you'd call him a 741: Miser. Tightwad. interviewer: if you use the word 741: #1 Or scotch. # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # scotch 741: mm-hmm interviewer: haven't heard that before 741: We u- we use that quite a bit. He's really scotch. interviewer: around here in the county or is it uh 741: #1 Well it may be # interviewer: #2 pretty well # localized or do you know 741: No I don't know. interviewer: he's scotch 741: mm-hmm interviewer: well what about if use the word common about a person say oh so and so's as common as he can be what would that mean 741: Common? interviewer: {X} 741: If I said somebody was common I would use it to mean uh not well bred. Did not behave well. interviewer: would you ever use it to mean average? 741: Uh prob- uh yes I would. But uh it j- I guess it depends on the tone of voice more than anything else. You think of usually it's a it's a girl that will act common if a girl acts common then that's a that she does not behave with high standards. She does not act like a lady. interviewer: have you ever heard the expression well he's or she's just common as gully dirt 741: No. {C: laughing} {NW} I've heard common as dirt though. interviewer: my grandmother used that a good bit well what about uh say an older person about ninety-five but she's still able to do her own cooking and and take care of the house you might say well so and so's uh pretty old but she's mighty 741: Spry. interviewer: or say if the children are out at night later than usual uh you might say well I don't suppose there's anything wrong but I can't help feeling a little 741: Uneasy. interviewer: or say if a child uh doesn't want to go upstairs in the dark you say he's of the 741: #1 scared # interviewer: #2 dark # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # any way any other way of saying that 741: I would usually say scared. interviewer: is there anything uh you know anyway uh another child might refer to a child who scares easily say so and so's an old 741: Fraidy cat. interviewer: what about somebody who left uh a good deal of money out in open view and say left the door unlocked you'd say he's might 741: Stupid. {C: laughing} {NW} interviewer: or he's with his money he's mighty 741: Loose with his money. But I th- I think of loose with his money as being someone who spends it interviewer: I see. 741: easily. interviewer: could you just as well uh say careless in that situation 741: Careless. I would say careless or dumb rather than loose with his money to me means spending. Spending it very freely without {NW} I am loose with my money without keeping up with it you don't know where it goes it just #1 flies around. # interviewer: #2 right right # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # well what if you had an aunt named Lizzie say there really wasn't anything wrong with aunt Lizzie but now and then she just acted kind of 741: Strange. interviewer: would you ever use the word queer? in that 741: uh #1 Queer has # interviewer: #2 situation # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 741: the homosexual connotation to me. interviewer: I see. 741: Well uh they used to use queer in the head. interviewer: mm-hmm 741: I've uh I've heard people say she's queer he or she's queer in the head. interviewer: so maybe an older person would be more likely to say that to mean it that way 741: Oh we I think that my generation would be more likely to say well they're a little peculiar they're a little strange or. Got a lot of relatives like that a little a little off. {C: laughing} {D: A little off is really} #1 {D: the more the winner.} # interviewer: #2 little # left of center 741: #1 Yeah right you just # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: kind of you know not all together there. interviewer: like I said the other day not wrapped too tightly 741: mm-hmm interviewer: well what about somebody who makes up his mind about something whether he's right or wrong and refuses to change his mind you'd say he's 741: #1 Bull-headed. # interviewer: #2 mighty # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # anything else you could say? 741: Stubborn as a mule. uh Just bull-headed or stubborn that's most that's the most common thing. Pin- opinionated boor. interviewer: {NW} well what about somebody who uh well you just can't joke with without him losing his temper you'd say he's mighty 741: Oh can't joke without losing his temper uh {NW} that has no sense of humor. interviewer: mm 741: um interviewer: do you ever hear people say well so and so sure is mighty touchy today 741: Oh touchy right yeah uh yeah we use touchy a lot. #1 Has a # interviewer: #2 what yeah # 741: chip on his shoulder that #1 sort of thing. # interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # what about somebody like that you might say well I was just kidding and I didn't know he'd get 741: Mad. interviewer: anything else? 741: I don't guess. interviewer: or say if a person like that is about to lose his temper and you don't want him to you might say well now just 741: Calm down. interviewer: or say if you had been 741: #1 Or take # interviewer: #2 work # 741: it easy. interviewer: if you had been working all day at the end of the day you say you're very 741: Very tired. interviewer: and if you're very very tired you're 741: #1 I'm # interviewer: #2 all # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 741: all pooped out. {C: laughing} {NW} interviewer: I run into some some great expressions for that perished 741: #1 perished uh-uh # interviewer: #2 you ever heard somebody say that # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # Kilt. whipped 741: Whipped I've said whipped. I'm beat to a pulp uh interviewer: uh-huh 741: whipped uh. Usually usually I'll say pooped out. interviewer: mm-hmm Or pooped to pop and I don't know where that 741: #1 came from. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 741: #1 I have no idea. # interviewer: #2 pooped to pop # 741: Pooped to pop. interviewer: Right. 741: I'm pooped to pop that's think I got that from my mother cause d- #1 it's she would. # interviewer: #2 uh-huh # {NW} that's a goody 741: #1 Have you ever heard # interviewer: #2 well what # 741: pooped to pop? interviewer: mm-hmm that would be an interesting one to investigate 741: Yeah I bet I can't even it makes no sense whatsoever but. interviewer: what about somebody uh say you hear that somebody's in the hospital you might say well uh so and so was looking fine the other day when was it he 741: Got sick. interviewer: or uh say if you were going somewhere and you weren't in any any particular hurry to get there you might say oh we'll get there 741: Sometime. Sooner or later. interviewer: you ever heard people say something like well we'll get there by and by 741: I've heard it but it's not uh it's not co- not I don't hear it commonly. interviewer: would you say it was kind of an antiquated way of putting that 741: I would probably. I just don't hear it much and it doesn't really ring any bells like some of these expressions from interviewer: uh-huh 741: way back when you remind me of 'em I can remember having heard 'em. interviewer: well what about somebody who got overheated and then chilled and his eyes started watering and his nose started running you'd say he caught a 741: Cold. interviewer: or if it affected his voice you'd say he's just a little bit 741: Hoarse. interviewer: and if {NS} he does that he's 741: #1 Cough. # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # uh say at the end of the day you might say well think I'm gonna go to bed I'm getting a little 741: Sleepy. interviewer: but in the morning say about seven oh clock you'll 741: Wake up. interviewer: or talking about somebody else you might say well so and so's still sleeping better go 741: Wake him up. interviewer: what about uh say if uh your son has some medicine that he's supposed to use you come back in the room and it's still there you might ask well why didn't you 741: Take it. interviewer: the past form of that would be yesterday I 741: Took it. interviewer: and I have 741: Taken it. interviewer: uh somebody who doesn't hear very well at all you'd say they're just about stone 741: Deaf. interviewer: and if you get out in this kind of weather and begin to do yardwork it's not long before you begin 741: #1 To # interviewer: #2 to # 741: sweat. interviewer: some of the these places that 741: #1 Now my # interviewer: #2 you uh # 741: grandmother wouldn't say sweat. interviewer: perspire 741: #1 Perspire. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} 741: And see what was it horses sweat and uh men perspire and women glisten. interviewer: {NW} that's a new one glisten I'll have to remember that 741: However I sweat. {NW} interviewer: well glisten that's the first time I've come across that what about uh you know these places sometimes where you get on your skin uh have a little white spot right in the middle and a red reddish 741: #1 Little # interviewer: #2 around it # 741: pimple. interviewer: ever heard that called anything besides a pimple 741: Oh if they're big they're called boils. interviewer: and that that white stuff in the middle 741: #1 Pus. # interviewer: #2 that's called # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # {D: if you say get stuck in the hand by a bubble your hand will begin to} 741: Swell. interviewer: the past part of that is 741: Swell I guess. {C: laughing} I don't know what it is. {C: laughing} interviewer: {NW} 741: It swelled I guess. interviewer: and say if I tried to do some work uh that I wasn't used to like 741: #1 You get # interviewer: #2 uh # 741: callouses on your hands is that what you mean? interviewer: those or 741: Blisters. interviewer: what about that liquid inside a blister what do you call that? 741: I just call it fluid. interviewer: ever heard people just call it water? 741: Yeah? I heard people call it water. interviewer: say if somebody accidentally got uh shot or stabbed in the leg you might have to take him to the doctor so the doctor could treat the 741: Wound. interviewer: what have you ever heard uh say if a wound doesn't heal cleanly the uh uh it might the flesh around it might become kind of white and flaky or something like that have you ever heard that referred to as any type of flesh in particular? have you ever heard people talk about proud flesh 741: hmm-mm interviewer: or say if uh I got a little cut on my finger uh something that would most people would have in the medicine cabinet to put on it to prevent infection 741: Merthiolate. Mercurochrome. Mercurochrome not so much anymore merthiolate or I think there's you use lots of other things nowadays but back {C: background noise} {NS} when I was growing up it was merthiolate and mercurochrome. interviewer: do people still use uh kind of a brown liquid uh 741: Iodine? I h- I have not seen any iodine in so many years now my grandparents used to have it but my daddy always treated everything with hydrogen peroxide. That just everything that happened to anybody #1 poured hydrogen peroxide on it. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} 741: What good that #1 did I have no idea. # interviewer: #2 that take care of it? # {NW} well what about this uh bitter tasting white powder used to be taken for malaria 741: Well heavens that must have been s- uh some sort of quinine. Now when when I was real little they gave me quinine but it was in some kind of chocolate syrup. It was like just you know in a medicine bottle with some kind of chocolate horrible oo yuck. interviewer: {NW} well what about uh this expression say if uh if somebody has been critically ill you might say well the doctor did everything he could but the patient still 741: Died. interviewer: any other uh terms for died that uh uh serious or otherwise that you've heard? 741: Oh passed on. Kicked the bucket. uh Went to his reward. interviewer: {NW} 741: uh Met his maker. Pushing up daisies. Oh {X} lots of those. interviewer: ever heard anybody say so and so's finally croaked 741: Croaked yeah. That was when I was a little kid that was my favorite interviewer: {NW} 741: expression. interviewer: heard anybody tell you that he cashed in his chips? 741: Ca- oh yeah heard that too. interviewer: let's say uh this expression well so and so's been dead a week but nobody's yet figured out what he 741: Died of. interviewer: and the place that people are buried you call that the 741: Cemetery. interviewer: does it make any difference if it's uh smaller maybe on a private property? 741: uh I there are just not any of those around here that I know of. So I'm not familiar with terms unless it'd be graveyard or something like that. We used to call a cemetery a graveyard when I was a kid. interviewer: well what about the box that people are buried in that's the 741: Casket. Or coffin. But casket's what we call it mostly. interviewer: and funeral uh {NW} 741: Is funeral what you wanted me to #1 say? # interviewer: #2 yeah # 741: #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {X} # that's what you call it 741: #1 I call it a funeral right. # interviewer: #2 I guess a ceremony # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 741: Right. interviewer: or say if uh the people who were at the funeral dressed in black you'd say they're in 741: Mourning. interviewer: if somebody uh asked you just on an average day you know inquiring about your health uh well how're you doing what would you probably say? 741: Fine. Fact I would probably say fine regardless of interviewer: yeah {NW} 741: of what. {C: laughing} {NW} Oh or just grea- quite often I'll say I well I am just great I'm just fine. interviewer: and most people when they ask you that really don't care about your 741: #1 Right they really # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 741: don't wanna hear a list of all your illnesses. interviewer: or say uh if your children are out late and you're getting a little bit excited uh your husband might say well they'll be home alright just don't 741: Get in a snit. {NW} interviewer: get in a snit or anything else possibly 741: He would not say that I would probably say get in a snit I can't imagine he'd really say that. interviewer: uh-huh 741: Don't get excited uh. interviewer: or he'd just tell you not to 741: Well now he wouldn't say this but another term that we would use see cause you remember he comes from Missouri is uh don't get your dander up. interviewer: uh-huh 741: uh interviewer: I'd usually associate with that that somebody's getting mad 741: Yeah that yeah but usually if you start getting real upset you it's kind of the #1 same thing. # interviewer: #2 that's true # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 741: But he gets more upset than I do so he wouldn't be interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 741: #2 likely # to say that. interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 741: #2 I would # be telling him to calm down you know don't get upset. interviewer: or possibly just don't worry 741: Don't worry. interviewer: what about uh say if somebody's getting old and uh their joints are stiff and aching you'd say they might have a touch of 741: Rheumatism. interviewer: or 741: Although I would actually say arthritis but you hear rheumatism uh around here all the time. interviewer: or this is a a disease that you don't hear about too much anymore but but um children used to die from it because their throat would have these sores you know and um they'd swell up so they couldn't breathe 741: Was that cholera or uh or typhoid? #1 Typhoid or something else? # interviewer: #2 uh # I was had something else in mind 741: Gosh all these ancient diseases. interviewer: {X} 741: Oh. {X} interviewer: D-I-P 741: Oh diphtheria. interviewer: well what about a disease that causes your skin to turn yellow 741: Oh uh any time you're jaundiced. interviewer: or say if somebody's getting a severe pain around here and they might be having an attack of 741: Appendicitis. interviewer: or if somebody ate something that disagreed with 'em and it came back up you'd say they had to 741: Vomit or throw up. interviewer: any other terms uh serious or otherwise? 741: Spit up uh flash. interviewer: flash? 741: Yeah. {NS} uh-huh interviewer: huh 741: That's from the old college days. interviewer: flash that's a new one 741: A little too much beer and they'd go #1 flash. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} 741: uh Retch uh. Well I'm sure there jillion others I just don't. interviewer: puke? 741: Puke yeah. Puke is not it's it's used but I think it's used quite often on football fields according to my son. interviewer: oh really {NW} 741: Oh what is it what is it what is it they call it? When they do that on the football field. Losing their biscuits or interviewer: {X} 741: #1 let let me # interviewer: #2 {X} # 741: go ask him. You need this is #1 they've # interviewer: #2 okay # 741: gotta {D: refreshen it} {NS} {D: earl.} interviewer: What? 741: {D: Earl.} interviewer: that's it? 741: That's it because they go {D: ear-} #1 {D: earl} and then. # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 741: #1 isn't that # interviewer: #2 god # 741: horrible? But upchuck too #1 is another one. # interviewer: #2 upchuck # 741: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 741: He didn't that uh that was the uh that was the {X} only the other one that or regurgitate. interviewer: you ever heard barf? 741: Oh yeah barf yeah. interviewer: what about somebody who's like that you'd say he's sick where 741: At his stomach. interviewer: say if