Interviewer: Now {NS} 748: I've been so I could get whatever I needed {NS} Interviewer: Yeah. 748: With or without the money. {NS} Interviewer: Yeah {NS} 748: Folks have enough confidence in them Interviewer: Yeah? 748: to know if they're letting the health {X} Interviewer: Now 748: Been that way ever since I was a Interviewer: But you might go to somebody and they'd say? Money is money is just I can't lend any money #1 money is # 748: #2 Well I # yes I have I've had folks who do that. and I'll tell you one thing I had I had a man make me oh he just loved me. Oh brother Payton just loved me. {NS} And I know the nigger had plenty of money too. I had one time wondered I'd lend you fifteen dollars. Nigger didn't want none of 'em. {NW} Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} 748: And I'll tell you another thing about that money. {NS} I know the man that I had lent money lent money little money little money going to {X} that was back when times were hard. I was never really #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Times were hard # what do you mean? 748: Oh well just times were hard couldn't make nothing couldn't get hardly get a hold of nothing. Interviewer: Money was? 748: And and money was scarce and in other words I didn't have a way bank no money didn't have a job to make no money. Might've been plenty of money but I didn't have a way to get it. {NS} {X} {NS} I wasn't working and there were jobs I'd get at them. {NW} But this fellow I had lent him money several times. And I seen that man get some money and I said look I hadn't really cashed the check and I asked that man to lend me fifteen cents what I wanted fifteen {NW} I wanted to get me some cheese and crackers or saltine crackers cause of course back then when they eat {NW} you could take that money and get a good meal of those. You reckon he lent me that? No. {D: Need a dime on me money.} {NS} {NW} I've seen that. They are too tight and stingy. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: Wouldn't even lend any money. Wouldn't even lend me I just just wanted fifteen cents now. Now nobody had the money. I'd just seen him cash a check. I I crossed out check you ain't crossed out. And he didn't do it. He just put his money in his pocket and walked on. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: But I had lent him money before then and as I tell you that same man died owing me some money. Interviewer: #1 Hmm. # 748: #2 But I # lent him money after after he treated me that way. {NS} Interviewer: Yeah. Now somebody went swimming and they got caught in a whirlpool and they couldn't get out you'd say they got? 748: Well all I could notice there then if you got someone couldn't get out. Interviewer: They got what? 748: He just got drowned. Interviewer: About drowned him. Uh you might say uh after he went down for the third time he he did what? He? 748: Well after he wents down the third time I'd just say he just sanked that's all I know to say. Interviewer: And he 748: Cause he wasn't wasn't alive no more. Interviewer: He what he? 748: He just uh all I know is just say he drowned. Interviewer: Okay. 748: Be honest with you. Interviewer: Uh or you might say I wasn't there uh I had gone for a walk and I didn't see him? 748: Oh well in a case like that why Interviewer: I didn't see him what? #1 I didn't see? # 748: #2 If that's the case # I didn't see him drown. {X} Has happened. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: Or went down. Interviewer: Yeah. Now when you saw something up a tree you might go over you went over to the tree and you did what you? 748: Well if I seen something up a tree just like a squirrel Interviewer: So you went over to a tree and? 748: I may go up to a tree and kind of shake the tree or {NW} maybe jack a limb or something like that. Interviewer: Yeah. Or you went over to the tree and? 748: Uh I said shake a tree. Interviewer: Yeah or maybe? 748: Or jack a limb. Interviewer: #1 You had to get up? # 748: #2 Or climb it. # Interviewer: #1 # 748: #2 # Interviewer: You what? 748: Climb it. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: If I got something up there I wanted. Interviewer: I'll you'd say I went over to the tree and? Climb up the tree? 748: Climb up the tree. Interviewer: Climb up the tree. Uh uh #1 okay. # 748: #2 I say # I seen some grapes up a tree once and uh all these pretty grapes of a gum tree. Tall gum tree. {NW} And them grapes were way up yonder. I was a kid. And I clumb way up that tree but when I went to come down I stepped on a on a on a rotten limb. And that limb broke and I just fell right on out and as the Lord would have it I put the limb back. And the Lord and the Lord would as he would have it a a strong limb {X} tore up and I {D: I seen that} hadn't I'd've broke my neck. I never will forget that right up that road there. {NW} They're uh coming down you know coming down and I caught hold a a dead limb. You see and when I caught that dead limb you see why I just. {X} But as the good Lord would have it I crossed my legs up there and them other live limbs out caught my limb on that that's what saved me. {NS} {NW} {NW} {NS} Interviewer: {NW} 748: I've been in lots of accidents and things like that my. {X} Interviewer: Now uh talking about something you saw when you sleep you might say? 748: Well I I'd just say well a dream. You know I dreamed. {X} Interviewer: But when I woke up I couldn't remember what I? 748: well I been so uh I've yeah I've done that I've dreamed dreamed and then couldn't remember what it was in there. Interviewer: What you? #1 Couldn't remember # 748: #2 Couldn't couldn't remember # what that dream was couldn't remember what my dream was. Interviewer: Couldn't remember what you? 748: What I dreamt that's all I'd say. Interviewer: What you dreamt? Uh 748: That's the way it was I forget what that old fellow was in the Bible he couldn't tell he'd dreamed something too. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 748: I can't call call him anyways. Interviewer: Or you might dream you were falling and right before you hit the ground you #1 I did what? # 748: #2 I # I woke up. Interviewer: I woke up? Yeah. 748: Woke up. Interviewer: Um now if somebody came in the room and they were doing this you'd say they were doing they were you'd tell 'em don't? 748: I well I'd tell 'em said I'd say don't I said be be quiet don't stomp all over the floor. Interviewer: Quit stomping around like that. 748: {X} Interviewer: Yeah. Quit stomping around like that. {NS} That sort of thing. {NS} Um now if you were out back say and you were at the barn and you needed a hammer or something you'd say to one of your boys what would you say? Run? 748: Well I'd say call 'em by name bring me the hammer. Interviewer: Run or run? 748: Well I'd sometimes say run with that run bring it and uh sometimes I'd just say bring it. Interviewer: Uh and he was with you you know? And uh you'd say run fetch run anything else? 748: Well some I hardly tell him to run I just say {X} Interviewer: #1 Go? # 748: #2 {X} # tell him to go Interviewer: Go #1 go fetch the hammer. # 748: #2 and uh # Get me so-and-so. Now I don't said run I'd just say go Interviewer: Go fetch #1 that? # 748: #2 Or if he's # 748: or if he's in the house when I call him I'd say please bring that or bring me or please bring me. Interviewer: And so he? 748: Bring it. Interviewer: He'd bring it to you. Okay. Uh now you were talking with somebody on the phone and and you might say uh I'll meet you in town uh if I get there first I'll? 748: Well I'll tell you if I get there first Interviewer: #1 I'll wait? # 748: #2 I'll wait on you at such and such a place. # Interviewer: Okay. Uh now to a child who was uh {C: clock chiming} {NS} who had been nasty to you you might say uh he might say you wouldn't give him with him you might say he'd say #1 oh please just? # 748: #2 Well I'd just say he just # so disobedient that's all I know to say. Interviewer: Yeah. Say you had a man working for you and you were gonna fire him cause he wasn't working hard enough. You'd say oh. 748: He's lazy. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: I'd just say he's lazy. Interviewer: You'd say to him he'd say please just give me one more? 748: I I'll tell you what I'd say I'd say he's lazy and I'd {NW} the other thing I'd say he he want something to earn for nothing. Interviewer: Yeah. And he'd say oh just give me one more? Just please give me another? Another what another? 748: Well another chance. Interviewer: Yeah. But you you wouldn't get you might say or a a kind of a salesman say an insurance salesman who was hanging around your house all the time {NS} you'd say boy I just wanna get I wanna get what {X} I'd like to get? 748: Well I'll tell you he can go ahead and go on and I'll say well I I have something too I said well I don't know if you need to come back here no more. Interviewer: Yeah. I'd just like to get what? Get? {NS} 748: Well I'd just I'll uh say just like get {X} but I'd just tell him you know I'd say well uh you needn't come back here worrying about that no more. Cause I don't want it. I'm not gonna buy it and I'm not gonna pay it. Interviewer: Okay. Uh now a smart aleck uh somebody like that you'd say he didn't know what was going on but he? He what he? 748: #1 Well um. # Interviewer: #2 He # he tried to make others think he did he? 748: Well I'll tell you {NS} smart aleck is just {NW} in other words I'd just call them folks thinking no think you don't know nothing and that they got more sense than you got. Interviewer: Yeah and they do what they make? They? 748: Need to try to make light of you. Interviewer: Yeah. They don't know what was going they don't know what's going on but they? They what they? 748: Well I I and I'm gonna tell you the reason I said they don't know know what's going and don't don't wanna try to find out what's going on. What's same find out what's going on and you know what you're doing. Interviewer: Yeah #1 they just what? # 748: #2 It's like # it's like two people. If like two people sit have a fuss like that. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: Well there's always a cause for anything. Uh some folks uh you'll take it up with them and just let let them and never say nothing about that other Interviewer: Yeah. 748: See? {D: Which is a fault.} Find out where the trouble is. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: Between the two people and then talk. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: Then find out it may be your best friend may've been in the in the big fault. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: Somebody you didn't care too much about. {NW} May be just a. {X} Cause this ain't gonna let let now I'll check that away. Interviewer: What is it? 748: Well uh uh uh Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 748: #2 dissatisfaction # a little dissatis- #1 going in my own and uh and and # Interviewer: #2 Okay. Alright. # 748: what started this one some things start and they ain't satis- ain't satisfactory and they just wanna blame one side for it. Just blame this one this one over here and that'd be clear. Go and talk about it wouldn't never talk oh two-two of the {X} would've been done if it hadn't been for old so-and-so. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: But you don't know that the other fellow might've been. to be his fault. Interviewer: Okay. 748: Get the foundation. Interviewer: Now uh you might say somebody didn't know what was going on but they? They did what they? 748: Well they just uh well they didn't know where they were going cause they just didn't want to fool with it that's why. Interviewer: They didn't know what was going on but they? 748: They definitely didn't want to fool with it and have them #1 do it # Interviewer: #2 They they did know # not know what was going on? 748: Well they did not know. Interviewer: But they bl- blanked like they knew it all you'd say they? 748: Well if they didn't know what is going on. Interviewer: But they blanked like they knew it all they say they? 748: Well here. Interviewer: They did what they? He didn't know what was going on but he sure? 748: He acted like he did that's all I know #1 I know. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: Okay um a boy left his pencil on a desk he came back later and after school was out he said somebody must've? 748: Stole my pencil. Interviewer: Okay any other ways of saying that? Look look at here somebody done pulled a prank on me and? 748: Well sometimes you'd say and some boys with some I'd just say somebody moved the pencil. Interviewer: Yeah. 748: Just like a man once left his watch at a regular school uh laying on a desk. And when he come in in fact that was a kind of a test that's the only test that man kinda put me through there he left his watch on that desk for a purpose. I mean on that on that on that pew for a purpose. Me cleaning up I found it. When I found it I took it and put it in his desk and he comes in man I can't find my watch. I said I'll tell you what you I said go look at your desk and when he went on back and got it. I'll tell you I'll come there come up. There'd been some stealing going on around there. I didn't do that. Interviewer: Somebody had thieved it? 748: Somebody and I not that one but somebody had done some stealing around there. Interviewer: They'd thieved it? 748: What's that? Interviewer: Filched it? 748: I said stoled something. See? There'd been some money stole there. {NW} And this fella'd heard about it. And so he thought he'd test me out see what I steal that way he's checking out a steal. Left his left his watch laying on the desk you know. On on the on on a pew course there'd been a ball game at that pew. And he cleaned up I found it when I found it I just took it up there and put it in his desk. That I must {X} put it in his desk When he when he comes around to ask about it why I said I told him {X} you know? Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 748: #2 He never did # see he never did act like going {NW} saying with it'd been been plenty of other stealing now that he didn't come to me with. I'll tell you another thing I've seen a man once I was working for a man. Me and another boy was digging up an old stump. Back then {X} on me. This fella's come back there and once {X} and looked at me on some {NS} one time I come back and there's a there's a cigar a laying down there. {NW} Come back that cigar and see it laying there. {X} He didn't leave no money now but some of them left something there. Had a while he'd pick it up pick the money you know then put it down. {NS} He was testing us niggers out to see what we steal. He had thought we'd steal anything. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 748: {NW} Interviewer: Now did you send any letters to people? 748: What was that? Interviewer: Send letters to anybody #1 you know? # 748: #2 I write to folks. # Interviewer: You what? 748: I write to folks Write them a letter. Interviewer: When you were younger did you? 748: Yeah when I was young I'd write I write them now cause I'd been on some letters yesterday. Interviewer: You yesterday you? 748: Mailed a letter. Interviewer: You mailed it? 748: Yeah I mailed it. Put it to the mailbox. Interviewer: When did you when did you write it? 748: Well I wrote it {D: like four days.} Interviewer: Okay. 748: But I wanted it to go off our mailman comes now in the morning and I called over after told him to send some kid over here to get it #1 Put the mailbox. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah? # 748: I wrote it the night before last and I wanted it to go off yesterday morning and I called that kid over here to come get the letter and put it in the box Interviewer: Now are you gonna are you expect to you do you expect them to the person you wrote that letter you expect them to write you back? 748: Well I hope to yes Interviewer: you hope they'll 748: yeah I hope they will Interviewer: hope they'll what? 748: go on to tell me my {X} I was writing it yeah about my son and I want to them to let me know. Interviewer: And you hope they'll 748: I hope they'll answer. Interviewer: okay. #1 um # 748: #2 on the Friday night # I told them listen I said I got a telephone. Call me anytime you want to click Interviewer: Do they do they know your do they have your to write you back do they have your 748: yeah they have my address have a phone number. Interviewer: okay. 748: cause like my daughter {X} wasn't wasn't the one that she got uh she these two ladies were {NW} uh high cost of living and next thing about it is don't know how to spend a lot of folks got money and don't know how to spend it. Interviewer: yeah. 748: {D: but they own many things} Interviewer: yeah. Now you put the letter in an envelope then you take your 748: seal it up you seal it up to fit take uh seal it up Interviewer: you take your what take your 748: well most times I just take my tongue {X} {D: do that there} seal it up. Interviewer: well you take your your 748: well to put a stamp on it. Interviewer: This is a what? 748: Well that's a pencil. Interviewer: this is a uh no this is a #1 a {X} # 748: #2 {X} # yeah I put my address on it Interviewer: #1 this is a writing what? # 748: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 what # 748: #2 {X} # and and who I want to send to Interviewer: this isn't a pencil this is a writing this is a ball point 748: well my pen or whatever you call it Interviewer: #1 pen # 748: #2 pen or pencil # and write that address and write that name who I want that letter to go to. Interviewer: you say you doing what #1 you're you take the # 748: #2 well I'm backing it # Interviewer: backing it? Address 748: uh backing the the address putting on there who I put on there who it's from Interviewer: #1 okay # 748: #2 then # who it's from then who it's to Interviewer: yeah 748: you see Interviewer: #1 okay # 748: #2 so the # so the letter don't they don't get it the letter's supposed to come back to me. Interviewer: alright. What do you what do you use to to to uh fix the baby's diaper with? 748: A safety pin Interviewer: #1 safety pin # 748: #2 what we used to use # that's all we know to use Interviewer: okay now um the the roof of that house of your barn over there is made out of what? 748: well uh that old house is just it's just made out of well tell you I got some tin on that one out there Interviewer: okay uh 748: {X} #1 tin tin or tin # Interviewer: #2 uh # okay. now if a child had learned something surprising you might say to him say a child had learned how to cuss or something like that you might say who who what who 748: well children can surprise you I heard a man say once that a child could teach another one I know better um sometimes a child do something that you didn't think he knowed how to do. Interviewer: and you'd ask 748: something that uh you'd never seen him do you didn't think he knowed how to do you haven't told him how to do it Interviewer: #1 and you'd ask # 748: #2 well sometimes yeah # how'd he find that out? Interviewer: or who who what 748: I just who told you that or who showed you that Interviewer: okay 748: see that that's all I know Interviewer: who learned you that? 748: yeah who showed you that or who told you that that's the way I use it. Interviewer: okay. 748: I didn't I hardly put it who learned you I just say who {NW} who told you or who showed you Interviewer: okay. and uh now if a if a child had a child did something was always running and telling on other people you'd say they were a what 748: lying they're running around lying Interviewer: #1 they were always going to their mommy # 748: #2 lying and getting in other folk's business lying # Interviewer: Being a what being a 748: tattle Interviewer: tattle? okay now what about a woman who would get on the phone and uh and she would just she would always she'd always talk to other people about folks in the neighborhood you call her a call her a what 748: well I just call her a Interviewer: go- uh 748: just a a gossiper I'd call her a tattle I'd call her a gossiper. #1 and uh # Interviewer: #2 okay # 748: and sometimes just call her a just say like this you run of the mouth Interviewer: yeah uh {NS} what would a tattle mean the same thing as a gossip? 748: well {NS} in a way in in in a way {X} tattling Interviewer: yeah 748: well I'd say it can Interviewer: you ever use that 748: you you you you carry that around around gossip is just I'm talking to you of course Interviewer: okay would you ever talk would you ever use a tattle about an adult? you ever say an adult was a tattler? 748: yes I would say that an adult is a tattle just like I would say uh children tattle I have said that yes and always messing with someone else's business Interviewer: now what would you give a child something to play with? 748: well that depends now as whole lot of different things you can give a child to play with Interviewer: just a you'd say you just give them a what #1 just a uh # 748: #2 well # try to get him get him just {D: think of it this way} uh just give him a give him a doll. Interviewer: {NW} 748: play with it. just make it {X} just give him a doll. Interviewer: yeah. Back in your days you didn't have a lot of play 748: didn't have a lot of playthings you know didn't have a lot of playthings. just you know Interviewer: Call it a play pretty? 748: yeah sometimes yeah play pretty play pretty Interviewer: what's a play pretty? 748: well a little play pretty is just something that all you do is play on it that's all it is it's it's not to be used for nothing else of course it won't serve for no other purpose than to just to have it around period. Interviewer: {NW} what might what might play pretty include? 748: what's that? Interviewer: What might a play pretty be? What might it include? 748: well it can include a lot of things now I'll tell you what if for Interviewer: #1 would that be the thing as # 748: #2 if uh # if uh Interviewer: would that be the same thing as a toy? 748: if I was a I give give a child I'd give him a lot of little toys any kind of toys marbles anything Interviewer: what about a gun? A toy gun? 748: well that ain't a play well a toy gun I'd call that a play toy too too I thought you mean were meaning a main gun {X} Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} 748: a toy gun. Interviewer: yeah. Interviewer: um uh now you might say if the highway department was out here working on the road you might say you couldn't get anywhere because the road was all 748: all blocked. Interviewer: was all tore up 748: well I just say it's all blocked up because it's tore Interviewer: tore up 748: tore up or blocked. Interviewer: okay. Tore up. uh okay now um {NS} if you didn't know the answer to a question you went and you you either looked it up or you 748: well I'll tell you about me if I don't know the answer something about the uh I don't know I try to look it up and see if I could find it and then sometimes I've asked somebody that I think do know just like uh just like Phillip would just like that {X} would go and ask Phillip. Interviewer: When he what? 748: When that {X} when he asked Phillip. When he was going out on the chariot reading now Interviewer: yeah. 748: and uh and uh Phillip didn't know he was one of the disciples. and uh he was riding on his chariot reading about it he uh leaded the lambs of slaughter and done before his shift he was just what is that? He asked Phillip what was it. And uh had Phillip to go up in the chariot with him. had Phillip go up in there and explain to him Jesus Christ and his purpose in the world and what he'd come here for. That man become converted in the record he said look at here here's some water right here you can baptize me now with that one {NW} Interviewer: yeah 748: Yeah I believe you can baptize me right now Interviewer: yeah now if there was a if there was a the teacher came in the morning and there was a funny picture on the blackboard she'd say who 748: well uh Interviewer: who what who somebody 748: well uh would say whose picture is this Interviewer: or who who did who did what 748: uh whose picture this uh Interviewer: what do you mean who who whose picture is it 748: uh whose picture is it what they do just like I go down in {X} store I look in {X} store I look up there I go inside {X}'s picture up on the wall. One of the best friends I ever had. Interviewer: yeah. Say that 748: {X} Interviewer: yeah. Say uh say there was a the teacher came in the room and the children were all in the room and somebody had made a funny picture on the door they'd say who she'd say who 748: well who drawed this mess up here on this wall Interviewer: okay. 748: that's what I'd say. Interviewer: Alright. now if you had to get a heavy piece of machinery somewhere you'd take a pulley maybe and you'd you'd put a rope around it and you'd you'd say you do a what 748: #1 you # Interviewer: #2 you # 748: you pulled it up Interviewer: ho- you uh 748: pulled it up or. Interviewer: hoist? 748: pull it pull it up or around it Interviewer: yeah you ever hear of heist something up? 748: yeah but heard of heist it up too I think they're about the same thing but I just say pull it up. Interviewer: okay. now um on a day like today you might look up in the sky and you might say boy I don't like the look of them black 748: them black clouds Interviewer: yeah it looks like it's going to be a #1 what kind of # 748: #2 be a storm # Interviewer: yeah what kind of day? 748: just say a stormy day. Interviewer: yeah a day like yesterday what kind of day did we have yesterday? 748: well a pleasant day. Interviewer: pleasant day? okay. now {NS} on a day when the sun's not out and the you know the the clouds are all in the sky and say it's rainy or something like that you say it's a it's a what kind of day? It's 748: well I just say this is a dreary day the way I'd say it Interviewer: dreary day okay and uh now you might say the weather's been nice and then the clouds start gathering and uh and the the the the clouds are getting thicker and thicker and uh you figure it might be going to rain or something and the wind might change directions and you say the weather is 748: changing Interviewer: the weather is what? 748: I just say the weather is changeable. Interviewer: changeable okay now then it's been cloudy and rainy and then the clouds pull away and the and the sun comes out you say uh the weather is 748: clearing up Interviewer: clearing up. okay uh now when you have a lot of rain and a little time 748: well Interviewer: #1 you say # 748: #2 uh # Interviewer: we had a regular 748: pouring rain I say well this is a rainy season I can't get to do much rainy season. Interviewer: you you see a friend having you say a well Mr. {X} I was out of town yesterday how was the weather here and you say woo boy we had a regular 748: yeah I say this #1 we had a pretty day out # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 748: I just say a pr a a pretty day and if it's a bad day I say well it's kind of a bad day today Interviewer: we're talking about a lot of rain yesterday you say boy we had a regular 748: well a regular rainy spell. Interviewer: a regular yesterday we had we had a regular what? A regular 748: we just had a pour down. Interviewer: pour down. okay any other names for it you might say? you might have a what a 748: well Interviewer: debt rain? or a 748: uh well Interviewer: a trash? 748: I just say a big rain that's all I say. Interviewer: yeah 748: a trash lifter. Interviewer: trash lifter? 748: that's right. Interviewer: fog strangler? Interviewer: now if you had a lot of {NW} with you know you say you had a what 748: well thunders. Interviewer: what if you had a lot of popping and 748: lightning. Interviewer: lightning with it you say you had a what kind you had a what 748: a lightning day Interviewer: a lightning day? 748: {NW} Interviewer: you had a 748: thunder and lightning that's all I know to say. Interviewer: if that was mixed in with the rain you say you had a what? 748: well I call it a well I just say all I know is just say just a Interviewer: l 748: really Interviewer: l 748: electric day Interviewer: electric 748: day Interviewer: electric day? electric day? 748: yeah. Interviewer: electric storm? 748: yeah we could say electric storm or whatever you want to call it. Interviewer: Do you ever get any bad winds here? 748: get what? Interviewer: get any bad winds here? 748: bad winds. Sure there's some pretty bad winds here. Interviewer: has it ever done any damage? 748: what? Interviewer: ever done any damage to you? 748: no I've never been {X} damage from the wind. Biggest thing ever I had maybe just blow a few sha- uh blow a few tins over the house I've never had no bad wind here Interviewer: they did what? 748: I've never had no bad wind here to blow the whole house down or nothing like that maybe maybe just blow a few little cover over tin cover over the house at this place. since I've been here {D: in El Dorado.} Interviewer: When was that? The wind did what? It the wind 748: well I just said 748: well the it blowed the blowed some of the top off of my house. That's all I can say. {D: Little damage.} Interviewer: yeah but I bet that it's probably has back in the past it has really come through and has probably you might say in the past the wind has 748: had changed. Or it ain't like it used to be or something like that. Interviewer: It has what? It has bl- uh. It has bl- talking about the wind blowing you say in the past it has today's not a not a bad windy day but in the past it has 748: well uh I just say uh more severe or something like that is what I know to say. Interviewer: it has what? Bl- 748: no no bl-- something like that Interviewer: It is blow 748: {NW} Interviewer: what in the past? It has blowed a lot harder? 748: Well all I know is just say well the hard winds since this day they ain't blowing so hard. Interviewer: yeah but in in the past it has 748: in the past all the other words I've seen it worse than this. Interviewer: it has what? It has 748: uh blow more more worse than this that's all I know to say Interviewer: okay. now if the wind is coming that way you say the wind 748: well if wind's coming from that way I just well the wind is coming from the south. South wind. Interviewer: okay. uh if it's coming from 748: well I say west wind or east wind or north wind. {NW} Interviewer: okay. or what if it's coming between the south and the west? #1 you say # 748: #2 northeast and southeast # or something like that or uh uh northeast or southwest southeast or southwest Interviewer: okay um now if it's raining but it's not raining very hard you say you're just having a what 748: a light rain that's all I say Interviewer: what kind of rain is good for the farmers? 748: well just a medium rain. Interviewer: well what's 748: a washer with just a just a just a just a steady rain {X} Interviewer: just a {NW} just a 748: steady just a steady little pour down. I would Interviewer: shower? 748: {NW} washer something like that not {X} just a medium rain. Interviewer: We didn't have a bad rain to today we just had a what 748: well we had a Interviewer: we were supposed to have a few 748: today but we have a not a pleasant day but we didn't have a bad rain today I just say a little rain and then we had a bad rain. {NS} Interviewer: yeah. you ever been going down the road and you just got kind of a kind of a tight rain that just barely even stays on you it's just kind of a a what? just a little what? {NS} 748: {NW} you mean rain? Interviewer: yeah just a it's not a rain at all really it's just a 748: little bit. well it's a a got a little damp and that rain Interviewer: we're just having a little what 748: {NW} 748: I just say we had a little rain uh Interviewer: we had a little mist uh 748: yeah a mist yeah well say that too but I've seen what we call mist now Interviewer: yeah 748: mist and rain. it's a little fine mist Interviewer: have you ever uh have you ever got up in the morning maybe and looked out and outside would be a the you couldn't see you'd say there was a 748: fog a fog a yeah fog yeah Interviewer: you say there was a what over the land? 748: well I just say a fog over the land that's all I know to say Interviewer: okay. now {D: Mister BT if you go a few weeks without rain} you say you're having a what? 748: well we're having a dry {NW} Interviewer: #1 {X} # 748: #2 Dry spell. # Interviewer: {NW} um now the wind has been very gentle. So it's been just kind of just breezy blowing 748: just say well it's calmed down now. Interviewer: yeah. But it it the wind was calm and now it's what it's 748: right done picked up again {NW} Interviewer: picked up okay uh now you might say there was a white coating on the ground last night it got cold enough to kill the tomatoes and everything you say we had a what 748: a frost. Interviewer: frost? 748: I say we had a frost Interviewer: uh and it got so cold the lake did what 748: froze over Interviewer: yeah. but by the time I got out there had it had already the lake had already what 748: just {X} melted Interviewer: it had done done done froze? 748: {D: well froze or melting to get uh sometimes well I} {NS} sometimes froze and sometimes you see it again it's done melted up again {NS} warming up to melt down Interviewer: yeah 748: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 keep # okay can I get you to count to twenty for me? 748: What's that? Interviewer: Count to twenty for me. 748: Count to twenty? Interviewer: yeah. 748: oh one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen twenty. Interviewer: okay. uh now um the number after twenty six is 748: after twenty six is uh is twenty seven. Interviewer: okay. after twenty nine is 748: thirty. Interviewer: thirty nine? 748: forty. Interviewer: uh {NS} okay sixty nine 748: seventy. Interviewer: ninety nine 748: a hundred. Interviewer: okay ten times a hundred is 748: a thousand. Interviewer: okay. Ten times one hundred thousand is 748: a million. Interviewer: okay. that's pretty good now if there are a bunch of men standing in line the man at the head of the line is the what man he's the 748: well I well I wouldn't know what to say but he's the head man. Interviewer: the fir the say he's the what man the the first and then comes the 748: second Interviewer: and then comes 748: third fourth fifth sixth seventh #1 till the line fades out. # Interviewer: #2 after the seventh # 748: till the line fades out Interviewer: well after the seventh comes the 748: oh after the seven comes the eight. Interviewer: and then the 748: and after eight comes the ninth Interviewer: and then 748: after the ninth the tenth. Interviewer: okay. Interviewer: uh now sometimes you feel your good luck comes uh just a little at a time but your bad luck comes 748: well Interviewer: when does your bad luck come? oh it just comes all 748: well good luck and bad luck. Interviewer: your bad luck comes all 748: well the bad luck comes um Interviewer: seems like it comes all 748: well sometimes it looks like it comes all the time and sometimes it Interviewer: #1 all at once? # 748: #2 bad luck or it # all at once or so often or something like that Interviewer: okay now now this year maybe you say you got twenty bushels of tomatoes. And then last year you only got ten bushels of tomatoes. So uh this year's crop was 748: well you said five of that before the five less Interviewer: say say you got ten bushels of tomatoes last year 748: {NW} Interviewer: and you got twenty bushels 748: well I just got got ten bushels more. Interviewer: okay so you got how much as 748: twenty. Interviewer: so you got you got this year's crop was 748: better than last year's I'd say Interviewer: how much better? twi- 748: well it it {X} Interviewer: it was twi- it was what 748: more profitable well that's all I know to say Interviewer: when? 748: this year {X} last. Interviewer: okay. If you got ten last year and you got twenty this year you say you got 748: well if I got ten this year and I got well I didn't as good of luck this year as I had last year Interviewer: no you got okay let's say you got twenty this year and you got ten last year so you got how much is much this year 748: well if I got twenty this year and ten last year I just say well I got more this year than I did last year I got twenty this year Interviewer: how how much is much you'd say you got twi- 748: what? Interviewer: you got how much is much? Twi- 748: oh I say twice as much. Sometimes I have went for and said three times as much. Interviewer: okay. now can you give me the months of the year? 748: yeah. January February March April May June July August September and September October November December Interviewer: okay. 748: {X} Interviewer: can you name the um when you meet somebody early in the morning I mean early about eleven o clock in the daytime what do you say to them? 748: well {X} any any anywhere before twelve o clock I'll say good morning. Interviewer: okay. 748: anytime after twelve o clock I say good evening. Interviewer: okay. would you ever say somebody say you're leaving somebody's house maybe after supper? What would you say to them? 748: good night. Interviewer: good night okay. Can you name the days of the week for me? 748: sure I can. Jan uh Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday. Interviewer: they say honor the what day and keep it holy? 748: the sabbath day. The seventh day. Interviewer: okay. um now on the farm if you want to be a good farmer you gotta start work before before when? 748: well {NW} it depends on that now. You've got to {NW} Interviewer: #1 say it's # 748: #2 well # I'll just have to put it this way have to have the pathway before the time comes. Interviewer: #1 if # 748: #2 {X} # Interviewer: if you start work before daylight you say we're starting work before 748: well starting work Interviewer: #1 before when? # 748: #2 just # just starting work before day. Interviewer: before sun 748: before sun up. Interviewer: and we worked till sun 748: sundown I have done that. Interviewer: okay. {NW} {NS} um {NS} now you might say uh when did uh we saw the sun we were out in the field and we saw the sun 748: set. I've seen that after the sun set Interviewer: or we saw the sun 748: sun rise. Interviewer: okay. Or you might say we were a little late this morning by the time we got out in the field the sun had 748: sun went up. It went up. Interviewer: The sun had already 748: already risen. Interviewer: sun had already risen. uh now today is Wednesday right? 748: that's right Interviewer: so Tuesday was 748: yesterday Interviewer: and Thursday will be 748: tomorrow. Interviewer: okay if somebody came on Sunday the last Sunday uh to visit your house you say they came when? 748: well they came last Sunday well so and so visited last Sunday. Interviewer: and if and what if he came a week earlier than last Sunday? 748: #1 well # Interviewer: #2 he # 748: come the week I'd say the Sunday before that. Interviewer: or Sunday week? 748: well you come early I mean you come earlier you said you come last Sunday and then you come Interviewer: you came here when? Sunday week? 748: Sunday week ago. Interviewer: okay. 748: and uh then they begin to {X} and then I might say then again I might say well they came here Sunday was two weeks ago. Interviewer: yeah. now if he's going to leave next Sunday 748: well Interviewer: what if he's going to leave a week beyond Sunday would be what? 748: well I just say he leave uh next week. Interviewer: or Sunday 748: next week out next week is all I know to say. Interviewer: and somebody stays at your house from the first to the fifteenth you'd say he stayed a what 748: he he he just it's been half a month Interviewer: he stayed a 748: all I know just say a half a month {NW} sometimes I say oh uh two weeks ain't quite half a month. Interviewer: yeah. 748: I might say say two weeks I might say say #1 fourteen days # Interviewer: #2 fortnight? # a fortnight? 748: yeah. I never say that a fortnight. Interviewer: okay. now if you want to know the time of day you ask somebody what do you ask them? 748: well I want to know what time it is what time is it? Interviewer: okay. or you might go up to somebody in the street and ask them anything else? uh what anything else you might ask them? 748: well the street Interviewer: yeah. What time? 748: well I might ask well what time is such and such thing happening or what time does I'm supposed to be such and such place what time such and such going to take place I might ask Interviewer: okay or you may have missed a speech somebody had and you say what #1 what would you ask somebody? # 748: #2 I would say # well what what street is this or I missed my I missed my {X} I missed #1 I'm on the wrong street I missed I missed # Interviewer: #2 or # 748: I missed the street I ought to take #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 now say # say somebody gave a speech or something like that and you you didn't hear the speech you might you weren't there somebody else was there and you were asking them about it you might say well what 748: were they talking about? or talk subject? Interviewer: yeah talking about what this guy said you'd say what what a 748: oh I know just say what what if you some say well well what was the subject? or what was the speech about? Interviewer: talking about what the guy said what would you ask somebody? 748: well Interviewer: what all did he say? 748: well I might say yeah what all did he say Interviewer: okay 748: course that depends you know. Interviewer: okay. okay. now um {NS} if you've been doing something for a long time you might say I've been doing this for for what? for 748: well I just say well I've been doing this for a long time Interviewer: for quite 748: uh quite a while I might say. Interviewer: quite a while. 748: them them two ways. Interviewer: #1 yeah. # 748: #2 for # the same name. Interviewer: if something happened on this day last year you say it happened exactly #1 say # 748: #2 well I just say # well this happened the same exactly the same day it did last year! Interviewer: or it happened when? Exactly a 748: when well I'd say exactly the same way it did last year Interviewer: yeah Interviewer: say um something happened in in March last year when would you say it happened? 748: well if something happened in March last year I'd say well this happened last year in March. Interviewer: and compared to now you say it happened a year 748: well I'd say a year ago. Interviewer: okay. a year ago. Alright. uh now um if somebody if you were asking about a people people who had been in a party or in a church say you didn't get to go to church and they had an important meeting and you wanted to know you you'd ask 748: what was going on or in other words tell me about that now. Interviewer: or who was there you'd ask somebody 748: well I might ask well so and so {X} or so and so {X} something like that Interviewer: okay or who uh who all 748: I'd ask just that who all was there I'd say Interviewer: #1 who all was there okay # 748: #2 I wanted to know # Interviewer: uh now if if somebody's been at a party and started to leave you might ask them uh where are a bunch of people were leaving you might say where are 748: well I I'd just say where are we going or why well maybe say why are you leaving so early Interviewer: where y'all going or? 748: oh where you going or why you're leaving so early? Interviewer: okay um and uh something uh if something belongs to me you say 748: I just say that's yours Interviewer: okay if it's if it belongs to both of us 748: that's ours Interviewer: if it belongs to to them 748: well that's theirs Interviewer: if it's belongs to him 748: that's his Interviewer: and her? 748: to her Interviewer: okay. belongs it's hers huh? now uh say you were suggesting a possibility somebody was suggesting a possibility of doing something with you and you might say uh well I'm not sure but I 748: oh oh I I could say well I'll tell you who might do it but I'll just tell you who might do it I'll think to {X} about it I'm I'm not going to promise for sure I'll do it but I'll be here to do it Interviewer: uh somebody ask you say go to town tomorrow. And you might say well I think I'm going to be busy. I don't know whether I can but I I what I I 748: I say well I will if I can get to it uh maybe uh I have I will {X} Interviewer: yeah 748: I said uh if something's gonna happen Interviewer: I I might I what I would you say I might 748: well I Interviewer: might what? 748: might go Interviewer: uh somebody ask you about being able to to put up a fence you might say I'm not sure but I 748: well I just well I just tell them I'll try that's what I Interviewer: yeah to guess if they suggested the possibility of of doing something for you say well I'm not sure but I 748: well Interviewer: I what I 748: well I think I can that's all I'd say I I can't I I I won't promise you but I think I can Interviewer: I might 748: I might can Interviewer: might can okay. um somebody asks you to do something you might say no matter how many times you ask me to do that I 748: well Interviewer: will he do it no I 748: I will do it or I won't do it Interviewer: I won't do it okay um and you might say you're not doing what you 748: promised to do what you said you would Interviewer: or somebody 748: or what you ought to do Interviewer: what you ought to do. Okay um if a boy got a whipping you'd say I bet he did something he he what he 748: {D: How you'd fix that?} Interviewer: He got a whipping he say #1 you must have done something # 748: #2 he went and got a whipping # he must have done some mischief Interviewer: done something he ought 748: ought not to do I I mischief is the same thing mischief or something uh Interviewer: okay 748: or you ought not to done. Interviewer: now you might say that somebody I'll dare you to go through the graveyard at night but I'll bet you and I'll bet you you you what 748: well {NW} well you I say I bet you see {D: your hands or something like that course now I believe in the hands} but uh everybody can't see hands Interviewer: yeah 748: and uh so he said want to go out there tell him go on cause I haven't been to a grave been to a graveyard at night and I didn't see no hands. Interviewer: yeah. 748: passed by a graveyard tonight. two graves {D: all coming in} coming over this little {X} up there on that whatever those stools that had a like I tell you about they was gonna give that land to them he sold his land around that {X}? there {X}{D: there's a road right through the graveyard in other words there's {D: road over} {D: there's road} on this side going that on that side and I went along there several nights and I ain't see nothing. Interviewer: yeah but most people what they 748: well a lot of folks see something and {X} once in a while I don't hear folks talking about seeing spirits and all that but they used to I don't know what {X} I don't know I mean I can't {X}{D: answer can't comment} Interviewer: talking about going through the graveyard you'd say they did what they 748: well I say Interviewer: you might dare to but they they were dare they would 748: well if they went through the graveyard they just went through it. Interviewer: they would they they what you were dared to go through it but they 748: well I wouldn't know what to say there. Interviewer: they {D: dafted} they dare not? {D: or they dafted} 748: well they da- uh they or or I say they they just wouldn't go. that's all I Interviewer: they dare not do it? 748: yeah well I say they {NW} I wouldn't say they dare not do it because the reason I say wouldn't couldn't say I they dare not do it because uh I couldn't see if anything had hurt them or nothing like that {D: been in the harm in one course like that} Interviewer: they dared do it? 748: all all I could say well uh I say well they just I just say that they did it go in a Interviewer: okay. Well I enjoyed doing an interview with you I thank you for doing it with me. 748: {NW} oh I okay well and um I open to you again of course I've enjoyed some of it too of course it's a it took a lot of time where I want to do something else Interviewer: yeah 748: I spent a lot of time doing it but Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 748: #2 {NW} # yeah but at the same time I enjoy siting down talking to you boy. Interviewer: yeah. I enjoyed it too. And I hope maybe that little bit of money I gave you can compensate you for something 748: I hope uh I enjoyed #1 talking # Interviewer: #2 I # I appreciate you doing it. 748: yeah I enjoyed talking to you