Interviewer:  {NS} People want to
791:  break. Break your windows out get that so quick make your head swim.
Interviewer:  I know. When I was in college I lost two bicycles. Just leaving them at night without a lock {NW} gone.
791:  My son had a he had a print shop here paralyzed from his waist down. That print shop right here in Leeville right by the side of the Burnam bank just across the street from the Burnam bank. And he was working late #1 there #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
791:  and had his car parked and he had a tape deck and everything in there. And uh he was in the side working with all the lights on. And when he got ready to come home He walked out to get in his car window was broke out driver on the driver's side window was smashed out and they left the brick back in the back seat of the car. In other words if he walked out at the wrong time why he's got a brick {D: phrase} right upside his head and all of his stuff is gone. Everything.
speaker#3:  {X}
791:  #1 Tape player #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  #1 tore it all out. #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  He had a recorder just like you got here. He was going to college.
Interviewer:  {NW} Sorry to hear that. Now you say you go to the store to buy what a pound or two
791:  Of flour.
Interviewer:  Two yeah. Two what?
791:  #1 To make #
Interviewer:  #2 two #
791:  bread?
Interviewer:  okay. Um the uh the inside part of the egg call
791:  yellow. Or yolk.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh if you cook eggs in hot water
791:  poached. Poached egg.
Interviewer:  Poached.
791:  Or boiled eggs if they if you leave the hull on.
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright. Now talking about that uh deep something baked in a deep dish and it has a crust on top uh maybe it doesn't have a crust on the bottom it's it's have some kind of a fruit filling in it.
791:  Pie.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Something like a pie but this was maybe uh had more liquid in it than a pie it was kind of a
speaker#3:  cobbler?
791:  cobbler.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Did you did you ever have any other names for those uh just call them cobbler or
791:  Peach cobbler or berry cobbler or
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright. Um now what would you call a kind of a something made with uh milk or had cream or sugar mixed in it uh that you might pour on top of a on top of a pie or a pudding or something like that.
791:  Topping.
Interviewer:  topping?
791:  Topping.
speaker#3:  cream.
791:  or cream.
speaker#3:  Whipped cream.
791:  Whipped cream.
Interviewer:  Okay that was just a sweet sweet uh
791:  topping
Interviewer:  Sauce or
791:  Sauce.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now food taken between regular meals you call a
791:  Nack or snack.
Interviewer:  A nack? Or a snack?
791:  Snack.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um
791:  Or a knick knack
Interviewer:  Now you might say uh how how do you make coffee?
791:  You put your water on and when it comes to a boil why have your coffee your ground coffee in your pot and then pour your water through on on top there how many cups you want to make. and let it drip through.
Interviewer:  Uh you drink a lot of uh coffee? {X}
791:  I drink enough to float triple battleships #1 in my lifetime. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
791:  My mouth
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Now uh when dinner's on the table and the family stands around waiting again what would you say to them? You might all say well everybody
791:  Everybody come on to lunch or come on to dinner.
speaker#3:  {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
791:  #2 come # come on to supper.
Interviewer:  They're all standing you might say everybody
791:  everybody be seated or everybody sit down.
Interviewer:  Sit down okay.
791:  Be seated.
speaker#3:  Get your plate.
Interviewer:  So uh they all come in and they they all they've all what? So you getting to the table and they've all
791:  washed. #1 Ready to eat. #
Interviewer:  #2 All washed and # they've all gotten chairs
791:  All sit down.
Interviewer:  All sit down. Okay. And you want somebody not to wait until the potatoes are passed you might say
791:  pass the potatoes.
Interviewer:  Well before you might say go ahead and
791:  Go ahead and help yourself.
Interviewer:  Help yourself. Okay. So he went ahead and
791:  Served hisself.
Interviewer:  Helped
791:  helped hisself.
Interviewer:  helped hisself okay. Now if you decide not to eat something you say I don't
791:  I don't care for it
Interviewer:  don't care for it okay. If food has been cooked and served the second time you say it's been
791:  warmed over.
Interviewer:  #1 Warmed over? #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  Now you put your food in your mouth and you begin to
791:  chew.
Interviewer:  Chew it. Oh. We were talking about mush. Um something you might make out of corn meal maybe and boil it with salt and water in it that was
791:  Right.
Interviewer:  okay. Did you ever make any out of uh just uh leftover cornbread or something like that you might mix up with anything else? uh
791:  #1 Not that I know of. #
speaker#3:  #2 it's called cush. #
Interviewer:  #1 You've had that? #
791:  #2 Other than that. #
speaker#3:  That's called cush. {X}.
Interviewer:  Cush. Did you ever have cush?
791:  Yup. Yeah.
Interviewer:  What was that?
791:  It was where you had the leftover cornbread and put onions in it and made the little seasoning #1 and stir it up #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  #1 I see that was #
791:  #2 kind of bake it. # That was the cush
Interviewer:  Cush. Okay. Alright.
791:  And then if you had cornbread leftover from say from dinner why you might uh you know to change the menu a little why you might slice the cornbread and fry it.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  In other words you back those days you didn't throw anything away if you could save it or use it.
Interviewer:  Now uh we were talking about you had your own vegetable
791:  garden?
Interviewer:  Garden?
791:  Right.
Interviewer:  What sort of uh vegetables you have? What
791:  Well I I grow everything here. I mean uh uh uh most most family gardens would have.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
791:  Squash. Cucumbers.
Interviewer:  What type squash you got?
791:  Yellow crookneck.
Interviewer:  Okay is there another kind of white flat squash?
791:  Oh yeah. #1 there's star shaped squash #
Interviewer:  #2 what's that called #
791:  Now they've got okra squash and flower squash they have all types of squash okra and everything it's all
speaker#3:  didn't know it was called white squash.
791:  You have all types of different vegetables now.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Now uh you something's cooking it makes a good impression on your nostrils you might say Mm just
791:  smells delicious or smells good.
Interviewer:  Yeah won't you just
791:  Get a whiff of that?
Interviewer:  Smell that?
791:  Smell of that.
Interviewer:  Smell of that. Okay. Now we talked about making your own syrup syrup is uh what is
791:  uh product of sugar cane
Interviewer:  Okay different from molasses you say molasses is is thicker? Molasses
791:  I'd I'd say that uh syrup or molasses is one and the same. Uh some people might call #1 syrup molasses. #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  Okay.
791:  and I think was I don't I don't know just exactly how they arrived at that as the old saying goes they used to some of them said uh pass the molasses. And the little fellow said well I can't say molasses cause sir I haven't had any yet. So he couldn't say molasses because he hadn't had any. #1 He just #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  All he could say was pass the lasses. Where he hadn't had no mo-lasses.
Interviewer:  {NW} Okay. Now you might say this isn't imitation maple syrup it's Not the imitation it's
791:  real {D: word macola} or
Interviewer:  Yeah Pure or
791:  Pure.
Interviewer:  gen
791:  Genuine.
Interviewer:  Genuine. Okay. Sugar uh now is sold in packages but used to be sold
791:  in Bundles or #1 bar #
speaker#3:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 in bulk? #
791:  #2 bark. # bulk.
Interviewer:  Okay. What do you all a sweet uh spread you make by boiling sugar with the juices of uh some sort of fruits or something like that? {X}
791:  Jelly.
Interviewer:  #1 Jelly #
791:  #2 Jams. #
Interviewer:  Okay. And on the table to season food with you have uh
791:  Salt pepper.
Interviewer:  Salt?
791:  Maybe pepper sauce.
Interviewer:  Salt and pepper?
791:  {X} on a red {X}
speaker#3:  {NW} {X}
Interviewer:  Now the bowl of fruit say peaches and apples you somebody offers you peaches you might say no What get no I don't want a I don't want a I don't want a peach give it one
791:  Give me an apple.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now It wasn't these boys it must have been one of
791:  those boys.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh now somebody speaks to you you didn't hear what he says what might you say to make him repeat you might say
791:  pardon or I didn't understand
Interviewer:  Okay pardon? or What what's that? Or something like that?
791:  I didn't hear you.
Interviewer:  Alright. Now when I was a boy my father was poor but next door was the boy
speaker#3:  rich
791:  that was rich or had plenty.
Interviewer:  Okay. That That what? That When I was a boy my father was poor but next door was a boy that his what?
791:  his parents was rich.
Interviewer:  Okay. A man if a man has plenty of money he doesn't have anything to worry about. But life is hard on the man
791:  that's poor?
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh {NW} now the inside part of a cherry the part you don't eat you call that the
791:  seed.
Interviewer:  Seed. And uh can you tell me the types of peaches you have here uh?
791:  Well the only type that I have is what they call an Indian peach. It's a a press peach in other words it's clings to the seed. #1 It's not a clear seed #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
791:  and it's the flesh or the peach is a deep red.
Interviewer:  Okay.
791:  Extremely dark red.
Interviewer:  After you eat the apple the part you have left is the
791:  core.
Interviewer:  core. Did you ever dry apples or?
791:  Yes sir.
Interviewer:  Call them
791:  dried apples.
Interviewer:  snips ever hear of that before?
791:  No.
Interviewer:  Okay. No the kind of what kind of nuts you got? #1 Said you had almonds #
791:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  uh something like that
791:  uh I have Japanese walnuts and pecan trees course pecan trees don't very seldom bear now and then they'll hit.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
791:  but too many insects.
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  My hometown is the pecan capital of the world. but uh we we can't get them to grow in our backyard. {NW} You got to line them good. #1 Not here. #
791:  #2 yeah. #
Interviewer:  #1 So #
791:  #2 line? #
Interviewer:  so soil doesn't have a good line here as I understand. That's what uh Mr Khumalo was telling me. Yeah Khumalo talk about a walnut now the outside part of a walnut you call the
791:  hull
Interviewer:  The hull you gotta get down okay. The kind of nuts you pull out of a peanut what kind did you ever have different names for them or different types?
791:  pinders or
Interviewer:  Pinders.
791:  goobers.
Interviewer:  Goobers. Okay. Now you what kind of other fruit you got uh fruit comes from Florida that's
791:  {NW} you mean citrus fruits uh
Interviewer:  Yeah.
791:  Oranges.
Interviewer:  #1 you got a #
791:  #2 lemons. #
speaker#3:  grapefruit.
791:  grapefruit. All those come from Florida. California.
Interviewer:  You have a bag of oranges. You you you see that there's none left you might say where are the oranges or
791:  gone or out.
Interviewer:  Oranges are all
791:  all gone.
Interviewer:  Okay. You got a little red peppery vegetable kind of with a wide inside grows in the ground? Um you might eat it raw or use it as a relish.
791:  Oh uh radish.
Interviewer:  Radish? Got that here?
791:  we have them.
Interviewer:  Okay and then there's that big red and juicy grows on a vine my favorite vegetable except for okra my favorite vegetable is okra. #1 this is #
791:  #2 tomato #
Interviewer:  Yeah. What type do you got for them?
791:  All types.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  {NW} every Every type. Gulf states and creole just all types.
Interviewer:  #1 what's a creole mean? #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  it was developed in Louisiana by a university.
Interviewer:  Really?
791:  Creole {NW} especially for Louisiana.
Interviewer:  Now a little one maybe no bigger than the end of your thumb you might call that a
791:  tommy toe
Interviewer:  tommy toe? Okay. Alright. You ever heard of out house tomatoes? {NW}
791:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  That's some some folks well I've heard that folks calling them out house tomatoes or something like that. Tomatoes will grow. Around you know where sewage is.
791:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  That's what I'm thinking people can't digest tomato seeds.
791:  No.
Interviewer:  Can't digest them. Now you were talking about potatoes uh what what other kind of what kind of potatoes you got?
791:  Uh arsh potatoes is all that I
speaker#3:  #1 particularly #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  grow in yeah why you
Interviewer:  Well tell me about sweet potatoes you #1 call them #
791:  #2 well # sweet potatoes uh why you call them yams or
Interviewer:  Got any different types? Or anything?
791:  No uh that you got different types but it's
Interviewer:  {X}
791:  why you don't specify them I mean you don't you just call them potatoes or sweet potatoes.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
791:  #2 It's # It's easier to identify a sweet potato or arsh potato.
speaker#3:  Yeah. #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Now something # with a strong odor that makes tears come to your eyes
791:  onions.
Interviewer:  You got you different types of them or?
791:  No I don't I very seldom grow any {D: could just be written as unintelligible} for that you no more than you use why you can buy them.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
791:  Cheaper than you can fool with them.
Interviewer:  Now that kind of young onion you might use when it's uh cut young little fresh ones? uh
speaker#3:  Evergreen?
791:  Evergreen.
Interviewer:  #1 You might use them #
speaker#3:  #2 {NW} #
791:  like in making dressing salads and something like that. blades.
Interviewer:  Use shallots? Have you got them here? Or anything?
791:  Yeah. Yeah we I very seldom grow any #1 just occasionally. #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  And if you leave a a fruit drying lit around it'll dry and
791:  {D: he could be saying "swivel"} shrivel away.
Interviewer:  Okay. Kind of vegetable that comes in large leafy heads uh
791:  Lettuce. Cabbage.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Yeah you say what what
791:  head of lettuce or a head of cabbage.
Interviewer:  Do you raise them here? you got
791:  #1 Raise #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  raise a head of cabbage.
Interviewer:  I see.
791:  Lettuce is is too hard. Too many insects.
speaker#3:  No {X}
791:  Well lettuce has to be planted in a bed or and then transplanted. if lettuce is not transplanted it won't head.
Interviewer:  You got any cabbage plants now?
791:  No I have few in the spring but they're all gone now.
Interviewer:  What'd you plant? You planted about what? {NS}
791:  Oh I just planted about half a row.
Interviewer:  Oh about twenty?
791:  About thirty or forty.
Interviewer:  Heads of
791:  one one bundle of plants. I think the chickens got all of them but about eight or ten.
Interviewer:  #1 I see. #
speaker#3:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  You say I planted what about twenty or thirty
speaker#3:  plants.
791:  Plants.
Interviewer:  Cabbage
791:  Cabbage plants.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now when you want to get beans out of the pod by hand you say you had to
791:  shell them.
Interviewer:  Okay. We were talking about butter beans and lima beans uh what are the kind you got the kind of beans you eat pod and all?
791:  String beans.
Interviewer:  String beans?
791:  #1 Or snap beans. #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  Snap beans. Okay. What different kinds do you grow? Can I ask
791:  #1 I very seldom #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  I very seldom plant anything other than Kentucky Wonder.
Interviewer:  Kentucky Wonder.
791:  Kentucky Wonder.
Interviewer:  And then you got the kind that grows up
791:  you have the bunch or the running. You can buy them bunched Kentucky Wonders or the running Kentucky Wonder.
Interviewer:  Okay you got anything that grows up on a #1 straight up? #
791:  #2 pole? #
Interviewer:  Pole beans?
791:  No I don't have any.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now you take the top of turnips and cook them and make up a mess of
791:  turnip greens.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh Any other types of uh greens you use besides turnip tops?
791:  #1 Make collard #
speaker#3:  #2 mustard #
791:  mustard
Interviewer:  Yeah. I hear that folks use that poke. I thought
791:  Yeah.
speaker#3:  oh yeah.
791:  Old timers why they bleeding the pokes out.
Interviewer:  #1 Pokes out? #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  #1 Pokes out. #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  I see.
speaker#3:  #1 {X} #
791:  #2 He didn't early spring. #
speaker#3:  #1 {X} #
791:  #2 When it first comes out. #
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah I saw man I saw a lot of that with I saw those weeds grow up there I said that looks kind of rough I don't know if I could eat that or not.
791:  #1 I haven't eaten any of it in years. #
speaker#3:  #2 It tastes like spinach though. #
791:  That that's
speaker#3:  You get you some tastes like spinach.
791:  It tastes like spinach. {NS} You got to get it when it's young and tender in early spring. #1 In other words after early spring #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  #1 why it's no good. #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  Now if a man had seven boys and seven girls you might say he had a what of kids?
speaker#3:  family.
791:  a whole passel of children.
Interviewer:  Passel? Okay. #1 Great. #
791:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Um the corn is tender to eat on the cob you call
791:  Ear corn.
Interviewer:  Well if it's tender enough to eat off the cob
791:  Rosemary.
Interviewer:  Rosemary? Okay. You ever hear any word like mutton corn or?
791:  I don't think.
Interviewer:  Okay. The top of the cornstalk is the
791:  tassel.
Interviewer:  Tassel? Okay. And the stringy stuff that comes out of it
791:  Silk.
Interviewer:  Silk? Alright. Now the large round fruit that grows in the ground you might use this during Thanksgiving to make a pie out of or
791:  pumpkin.
Interviewer:  Pumpkin? #1 Okay. #
speaker#3:  #2 It grows on top. # {NW}
Interviewer:  Huh?
speaker#3:  Doesn't grow in the ground. {NW} Grows on top.
Interviewer:  Oh. Did I say in the ground?
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  I didn't mean to say that. {NW}
791:  uh
Interviewer:  I'm not that gauche. {NW}
791:  #1 uh #
speaker#3:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 I'm not that naive #
speaker#3:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 I know a little about the farm. #
speaker#3:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Um What kind of melons do you raise?
791:  A Charleston graze is what I always plant.
Interviewer:  That's the uh #1 what? #
791:  #2 It's a large # grade melon.
Interviewer:  watermelon?
791:  watermelon.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NW} Do you grow any other types around here Mr. Foster?
791:  Oh yeah. Yeah. There's all types growing. Black Diamond and
speaker#3:  #
speaker#3:  #1 {X} #
791:  #2 then a lot of people # is planting a {NW} striped melon they. I believe the seed was developed in Texas
Interviewer:  Yeah
791:  By one of the universities I don't know the name of them I I've never tried any of them.
speaker#3:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Somebody # told me that they're #1 planting yellow meat watermelon #
791:  #2 {NS} #
Interviewer:  #1 around here. #
speaker#3:  #2 yeah it's delicious. #
791:  They're They're the sweetest melon on the market is the yellow-meated watermelon.
Interviewer:  I've never seen one of those #1 in my life. #
791:  #2 you # Well I'll tell you where can find them.
Interviewer:  Are they big?
791:  They're pretty good size melon. You can find them at uh Jame's red and white grocery store. They've got them there. Mr Shancle raises them.
Interviewer:  Is it really yellow?
791:  Just as deep yellow as you can get and just like taking a bite of sugar. Or honey it's so sweet.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  They're delicious.
Interviewer:  That's I'll tell you a story my grandfather uh
791:  Yeah
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  You might not want it on that tape.
Interviewer:  Go ahead.
791:  Uh back years ago my brother he he was one of them that didn't take a dare He's in everything like most boys but anyway why he got pretty good size boy there was about five or six of them got together and they went off on an old tire truck no cab on it and an old Ford an old Ford tire truck with no cab. Well they'd been off to a dance or a party somewhere and they was coming back and they pulled up in one of the {NS} people's houses lived in the neighborhood and he had a watermelon patch just before you got to his house down the lane a little piece. so Some of them said let's get the watermelon. so they stopped the old truck they two or three of them jumped over the fence and got a watermelon a piece. Well that wasn't bad enough to steal a man's watermelon so they got up to the man's house and somebody told my brother says I dare you to bust one of them on his front porch. So my brother said stop the truck. Said I'll bust it. So when the man stopped the truck well my brother jumped off the truck and run and throwed the watermelon from the gate it landed on the porch well by the time it landed on the porch why this old Ford truck I usually to predict {X} #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
791:  You know #1 Ford truck went dead #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  just as my brother got back to it why the old boy's trying to crank it and he said {NW} #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
791:  #1 That was it. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
791:  so they had to leave the truck and they broke and run course the man was up with his shotgun and
Interviewer:  #1 blew all the tires off of it #
791:  #2 {NW} # no the next morning when the old boy's truck it belonged to went back why he said well he said no he said you can get the truck by paying the for the watermelon you busted on the steps and the watermelons you got on the truck. So he
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
791:  #2 {NW} # He paid for the watermelons and got his truck.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  But I
Interviewer:  Oh boy uh {NW} My little brother did that once and he got caught too. Um now any other different types of melons you raise?
791:  Uh
Interviewer:  little melons uh or buy them?
791:  They
speaker#3:  {X}
791:  I I I've never raised any of them they've got what you call a ice box melon it's a very small melon ice box melon. and now that we've we've got some people that grows the melon in fact I had some of them last year here in the garden. I planted a few hills. #1 and it's nothing #
Interviewer:  #2 right #
791:  for those watermelons I don't know the name of them but a long large gray melon and it's it's not anything uncommon for them to reach eighty or ninety pounds. If they're if they're cared for. You may even see some of them before you leave town. They I haven't saw any so far this year but they usually later than all the other melons. They'll come out be three three and a half four five dollars a piece. But they're huge melons. People will buy them to carry them all the way across the states.
Interviewer:  Huh.
791:  Just for show.
Interviewer:  Um now little melons with the white meat or yellow meat you call them a what a
791:  Pine melon? or ice box melon.
Interviewer:  Ice box do you ever get cantaloupe? Cantaloupe?
791:  Oh cantaloupe yeah.
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
791:  #2 I thought you meant we're still on watermelons. #
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
791:  #2 Yeah. # #1 You have canteloupes #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  mush melon.
Interviewer:  Mush melon? Okay. Now a little thing that might spring up in the woods after a rain with an umbrella shape
791:  mushroom.
Interviewer:  Mushroom? You {NW} you got the kind of those that you can't eat you call them a what? You can eat mushrooms but you can't eat a um
speaker#3:  toadstool
Interviewer:  How's that
791:  toadstool.
Interviewer:  Toadstool? Okay. Now you might say this soup's so hot I couldn't what
791:  suit?
Interviewer:  Soup. It's a
791:  #1 oh soup. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  I can't uh eat it. #1 Or #
Interviewer:  #2 what #
791:  #1 or can't swallow it. #
Interviewer:  #2 sw- # Okay. What do people smoke? Some smoke pipes others smoke
791:  Cigarettes. #1 Some cigars. #
Interviewer:  #2 and # Okay. Now uh somebody offers to do you a favor you might say I appreciate it but I don't want these they offer to do you a favor you might say well I appreciate I don't want to be
791:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # beholden? Or
791:  beholden or
Interviewer:  Beholden to you or obligated to you which one?
791:  Well most people when they want to do you a favor why it ain't it's not always to get you to uh be obligated to them
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
791:  #2 or # you just don't want to override your friendship.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now uh somebody asks you about sun down to do some work and you say I got up to work before sun up and I blank on going to do today I
791:  did all I'm going to do today.
Interviewer:  Did all I'm going to do today okay. There was a terrible accident on the road but there was no need to call the doctor because the victim was #1 un- #
791:  #2 already # #1 dead? #
speaker#3:  #2 dead? # {NW}
Interviewer:  Already dead? Okay. Uh now getting in the types of animals you got here you got what about that kind of bird that sees in the dark? You got that a
791:  Owl?
Interviewer:  Yeah what kind of owls you got?
791:  You got the hoot owl the horned owl.
speaker#3:  screech
791:  And the screech owl.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh And you said that bird that pecks is
791:  peckerwood.
Interviewer:  Peckerwood?
791:  Red headed peckerwood.
speaker#3:  {X}
791:  They were almost extinct here a few years ago they we was on the wildlife and fisheries conservation magazine came out and said that they was just a such a small amount of them left that they was asking everyone to not kill them because they were such a easy target with that black with a white vest and a bright red head with a white {NW} uh neck. They was such an easy target till they was asking everyone not to kill them and now they came back and they're everywhere. You can see plenty of them but they for years they've got to where you would never see one but one a year.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  and there's been one right here for the the whole summer. Eating figs and different types of fruit. Uh he he's stayed right here the whole summer.
Interviewer:  Now uh you got a big one? you know maybe about the size of a half grown chicken? Wood hen when it gets grown? #1 You ever seen those? #
791:  #2 Wood # a wood hen?
Interviewer:  yeah or any big ones? uh {NW}
791:  yeah they they they call them Indian hens.
Interviewer:  #1 big like smacker woods #
791:  #2 you mean wild? # Yeah. That's what you call an Indian hen.
Interviewer:  Oh.
791:  That's uh they're they are huge bigger than a red headed peckerwood. In other words they're about large as a half grown or two thirds #1 grown chicken. #
speaker#3:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
Interviewer:  That's an Indian hen peckerwood?
791:  Yeah it's they'll get on a hollow tree and peck on it just like a woodpecker.
Interviewer:  Now talking about peckerwood you you ever hear that used that word used in any other sense? uh folks will use it to describe people or?
791:  Yeah. You got a head as hard as a woodpecker or a lot of people refer to them as having a head as hard as a woodpecker because he peck on a log or stump.
Interviewer:  Okay. You you ever hear of for a class or type people or you're all white you know you might get mad at somebody and say that? #1 Say why you old #
speaker#3:  #2 {NW} #
791:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  #1 you old peckerwood #
791:  #2 you old wood # peckerwood or wood pecker. You old peckerwood.
Interviewer:  I see. Okay what would that mean? Was that was that would folks use as a compliment or?
791:  Well not necessarily they just probably if someone was kind of con contrary or something or didn't want to go along #1 with the crowd or #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  the party or something. #1 You hear that used now. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  This day and time. You peckerwood you.
Interviewer:  Okay. It just meant
791:  Yeah. It just a lingo or
Interviewer:  It just meant somebody was what they're
speaker#3:  hard headed.
791:  Hard headed.
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  {X} somebody like that you'd say I I didn't know he was so hard headed or my goodness
791:  #1 he sure is a #
speaker#3:  #2 bullheaded #
791:  bullheaded.
Interviewer:  #1 person? #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Stubborn or
791:  stubborn. contrary.
Interviewer:  Contrary. A contrary person is a a type of person who you know just
791:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Always want things his own way that sort of thing
791:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay we'll get back to that in a little while but now the kind of black and white animal that has a powerful smell
791:  Skunk.
Interviewer:  Skunk?
791:  Pole cat.
Interviewer:  Pole cat. Okay. Talking about squirrels you were talking about squirrels uh any different types you got around here or?
791:  You have two types. Cat squirrel fox squirrel. Cat squirrels small and feisty as lightning and the fox squirrel is huge large.
Interviewer:  Yeah. You got a little one maybe that can't climb trees runs around on the ground here?
791:  No. We
Interviewer:  Okay. Oh what type of fish you got? Uh
791:  Pretty well all types.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  Catfish bass brim perch bluegill
Interviewer:  okay any saltwater fish uh that you know about? uh #1 {X} #
791:  #2 No # I I would imagine that this German carp that has ended up in all of the streams and lakes probably is saltwater.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
791:  It came up the rivers and creeks from the island gulf
Interviewer:  #1 okay. #
791:  #2 German carp. #
Interviewer:  Uh what what's that kind of seafood you're not supposed to eat unless the month has an "R" in it?
speaker#3:  {X}
791:  Was it crab?
Interviewer:  Uh
791:  #1 I'm not familiar. #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  oysters?
Interviewer:  Yeah. Was it them? um any other kind of shr- seafood you might get here or? Little fan tailed #1 type animal #
791:  #2 shrimp. #
Interviewer:  Yeah.
791:  Shrimp.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh might go out to buy a couple pounds of
791:  Shrimp.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about that thing that um you find in the streams around here I hear y'all get a lot of them they go backwards they got claws and
791:  crawfish.
Interviewer:  Crawfish?
speaker#3:  Crawdad.
791:  You got lots of them in Louisiana.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  Plenty of them.
Interviewer:  Okay.
791:  Down south Louisiana it's many of them are they have to at certain times of the year when the water uh has been way up and recedes
Interviewer:  Yeah
791:  There'd be so many crawfish on the highway until the cars will mash them and they'll have to get the uh state to come in with the motor patrols and dry the highways to get the crawfish sludge off the highways.
Interviewer:  #1 they're that common? #
791:  #2 to keep them # That's right. You're to the not this past spring but a year ago this past spring
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
791:  #2 They had so many of them #
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
791:  #2 that you could just #
Interviewer:  {X}
791:  Go there and fill up a wash tub full in just a a few minutes and sit them in trunk of your car and {NS} door or fill a bed of a pickup truck with a square footed shovel just scoop them up now that's how many it's no exaggeration that's facts.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  That's facts. Everybody. From all over north Louisiana everywhere went down in south Louisiana below where the {D: uncertain} is got all the crawfish they want.
Interviewer:  Now those things you hear that make a a noise around the pond at night
791:  Frogs spring frogs or bull frogs
Interviewer:  You you got two two different types?
791:  you you got two different types. Toad frogs.
speaker#3:  Tree frogs.
Interviewer:  #1 toad frogs? #
791:  #2 tree frogs. #
Interviewer:  Tree frogs? What's yeah tree frogs is a little ol'
791:  little green frog that usually stays on green vegetation uh we usually got some around this fig tree you they'll step up on the window there and catch insects at night off of the windows.
Interviewer:  talking about insects what kind of them you got around here?
speaker#3:  {NW}
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  got too many of them to talk about. {NW} There all type of insects.
Interviewer:  You got the kind that uh bites in your clothes and and uh like you have to like put these little balls in your clothes to get rid of them
791:  we very seldom bother with with them. Uh
speaker#3:  #1 {X} #
791:  #2 them the insects past out in the garden and fields is # about the only thing we have to worry about.
speaker#3:  yeah we got {X} on ours.
791:  Yeah you now clothes moths but very seldom in the house.
speaker#3:  yeah.
Interviewer:  you don't get the
791:  moth balls.
Interviewer:  #1 yeah you don't get the moth balls or anything #
791:  #2 if you if you store them # if you store them outside of something why you might put the moth balls or the B-D-B in them.
Interviewer:  Now something that uh
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  that might go around a a lamp at night
791:  candle bugs
Interviewer:  candle bugs? Okay. um what do you go fishing with? uh
791:  I usually use a spin and reel or
Interviewer:  #1 no no no no #
791:  #2 oh #
Interviewer:  um something you might #1 use for bait. #
speaker#3:  #2 worms crickets #
791:  worms cricket or artificial baits.
speaker#3:  {X}
791:  Shiners.
Interviewer:  Shiners? Okay. Talking about uh worms you might use what kind of worms you have?
791:  regular earth worms or red wrigglers #1 or nightcrawlers. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # I see what's a red wriggler?
791:  He's a medium size worm deep deep red
Interviewer:  red worm? You ever call it . #1 that #
791:  #2 red # Red worm.
Interviewer:  I see.
791:  The nightcrawler reminds you of a little small snake. He's quick fast there's lot's of wiggling while you're trying to put him on the hook.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
791:  So nightcrawler.
Interviewer:  What they regular type worms?
791:  It's it's regular type worm but they'll get to be large they grow pretty large.
Interviewer:  you got a kind of a white one that maybe grows in a tree or something in a rotten tree you see
791:  that's a grub worm.
Interviewer:  grub worm?
791:  grow around the ca uh barn where the rich dirt #1 or in a #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
791:  under rotten logs.
speaker#3:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 I see. #
791:  {NW} Grub worms. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  Now then you got that hard shell animal that sticks his head back and
791:  terrapin.
Interviewer:  Yeah. But you got any uh terrapin what what types you got of turtle?
791:  Just just the one terrapin and then you got hard shell turtle logger head soft shell turtles you got all types of turtles.
Interviewer:  I see.
791:  Lots of them.
Interviewer:  Okay. You know what a you know what a you got a gopher here?
791:  oh yeah.
Interviewer:  okay what's that?
791:  it's a little animal that {NW} goes on the ground go uh you got the salamander or the mole. The mole he just goes just under the ground and raises the dirt up where you can see where everywhere he goes. But the salamander he'll just push up a little mound of dirt and it may be several feet before he pushes up another little mound of dirt.
Interviewer:  Salamander.
791:  salamander.
Interviewer:  That's a how big is it uh
791:  He's about five inches in #1 length. #
speaker#3:  #2 kind of like a rat. #
791:  About like a medium size rat.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
791:  yeah. They have a pouch on each side of their jaw they carry a whole bunch of food in that to wherever their den's at.
Interviewer:  {NW}
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  We caught you know now we got a lizard that we call a salamander in south Georgia.
791:  A lizard.
Interviewer:  yeah. A type of lizard we call a salamander. #1 It's a #
791:  #2 called #
Interviewer:  little you know thing that goes around like that little old thing?
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah some of them you find them in the water. like they're #1 they're green #
791:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  you know they're green they live in streams and things like that.
791:  I've
Interviewer:  well
791:  I've never used
Interviewer:  Then you got that kind of a thing talking about getting back to insects again you got that kind of a bug light stuff uh
791:  lightning bug.
Interviewer:  lightning bug. Okay. And you got a uh then you got the I hear that you got lots of uh {X} kinds that will bite you if you're
791:  mosquitoes.
Interviewer:  Mosquitoes.
791:  Got plenty of them.
Interviewer:  I was I was riding a bicycle
791:  We
Interviewer:  go ahead
791:  we're not bothered by them too bad here. Uh. One thing uh we read different books on uh the mosquitoes and the martins. Martin bird
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  and they tell us uh different books is told I I don't remember the amount of mosquitoes that one martin consumes in a day. but it's a huge amount. It's almost unbelievable how many mosquitoes one bird
Interviewer:  #1 really? #
791:  #2 one martin can consume # and uh I keep a martin box here year round so not just one or two but several. And there's always martins here and I'm very of course I #1 know we have mosquitoes #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  #1 Because I have a pond and #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  #1 they branches. #
Interviewer:  #2 creek water yeah. #
791:  But it it works.
Interviewer:  Well now the martin that's that chimney sweep isn't it
791:  #1 it he looks #
Interviewer:  #2 that #
791:  #1 like a chimney sweep #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  #1 now that's different #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  the difference between a martin and a chimney sweep.
Interviewer:  Have you ever seen a martin get after a hawk?
791:  oh yeah.
Interviewer:  I've seen them get after a hawk they'll kill him.
791:  #1 They'll #
Interviewer:  #2 the hawk will yeah #
791:  they'll run him completely out.
Interviewer:  Talking about in uh mosquitoes what else eats mosquitoes these things might hang around the pond uh
791:  Frogs.
Interviewer:  Well you ever seen these are kind of a long thin bodied insect with transparent wings
791:  oh mosquito hawk.
Interviewer:  Mosquito hawk?
791:  Mosquito hawk.
Interviewer:  Okay. You got any insects that sting uh flying insects?
791:  {NW} Got the bumble bee and the wasp #1 yellow jacket #
Interviewer:  #2 what type # what type wasps you got?
791:  you got the red wasp dark red and then you have the guinea wasp that's kind of striped like. Got a little yellow different color on it.
Interviewer:  Okay. Is a bumble a yellow jacket? That's a uh is that a wasp or
791:  no that's on the bees family. It's a little yellow bee.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  #1 And they'll #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
791:  wrap you up when you get in stir up a mess to them #1 why #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  they'll get all over you up your britches leg down your collar up your shirt sleeve in your nose they'll get all over. You'll hunt a hole water to get in #1 quick. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # {NW} Miss where where do they build a nest?
791:  In the ground.
Interviewer:  Okay. And then you got a you got a kind of a type wasp that make builds its nest in a dirt place on the side of the yard?
speaker#3:  dirt dauber
791:  Dirt
Interviewer:  meant no kind of a dirt place on the you know on the side your house or something like that?
791:  uh bumble bee?
speaker#3:  no dirt dauber.
791:  no You mean
Interviewer:  ever heard dirt dauber?
791:  Yeah you got the dirt dauber that build a a nest out of dirt
Interviewer:  #1 yeah what #
791:  #2 and lays eggs in there and # and then lays egg and then kills catches spiders and paralyzes them and puts them in the uh nest or in the hole with this egg that the dirt dauber has laid. And then that uh egg hatches and makes the larva and when the dirt dauber hatches into a dirt dauber he pushes the end down the nest and he already got his food there ''til he gets old enough to survive on his own.
Interviewer:  have um have you gotten kind of a thing that makes a big paper nest kind of like shaped a
791:  hornet.
Interviewer:  Okay.
791:  Yeah a hornet.
Interviewer:  #1 Now them the worst. #
791:  #2 uh # Yeah that's that's the reason I said down here a few days uh yesterday that uh a lot of people say that the boys are meaner now these days than they used to be well I still don't go along with that because I remember one instance where that a boy pulled a hornet's nest and crammed a piece of paper in the hornet nest and carried this hornet nest to a church.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  And putted it just as he throwed it he pulled the paper plug out of the hornet nest.
Interviewer:  Oh no.
791:  Yep. So that ain't no meaner now {NW} it's just more for them to get in to but
Interviewer:  {X}
791:  {NW}
Interviewer:  The folks were in the church?
791:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  In the church?
791:  full of full of people.
Interviewer:  {NW} during the
791:  during the service. Course that'd been many many years ago.
Interviewer:  God
791:  {NW} #1 more than anything #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
791:  I'll tell you what you can do you can shoot one of them hornet nests with a 22 rifle and it won't go more than the {NW} gun pop and that bullet hit until there'll be a hornet where you're at don't never try it. Don't think that hornet can't follow the path of that bullet. #1 He be there to you #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
791:  it don't matter if you're 100 yards out there He'll be there to you in a {NW} few seconds.
Interviewer:  {NW} Now small insects you might be walking through the woods and these will get in your skin and burrow your make them raise red welts on you
791:  red bug.
Interviewer:  red bug?
791:  Chiggers.
speaker#3:  ticks.
791:  Ticks.
speaker#3:  {NW}
Interviewer:  You got that insect that hops through the grass and the
791:  grasshopper.
Interviewer:  Grasshopper. Okay. Ever heard them called hopper grasses? or anything like that
791:  I always call them grasshoppers.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now uh you might gosh something uh uh that this insect makes you might find one across the corner of the room if you haven't swept in a while
791:  spiderwebs.
Interviewer:  Spiderweb? Okay. uh if you find one outside you might call it a what across a tree spider web?
791:  Spiderweb.
Interviewer:  does would maybe uh one you might find a spider that left a band or something like that what would you call that got to get a broom and sweep beneath it
791:  cobweb
Interviewer:  cobweb eh so you might say cobwebs were something you know about inside you know any difference between a spiderweb and a cobweb?
791:  No I don't guess at it I I don't I don't know what would be the difference cob cobweb might be cobweb's just been left there so long.
Interviewer:  Okay.
speaker#3:  whole lot of them
791:  or a whole lot of them or something.
Interviewer:  Now when you're pulling up a stump you have to dig around and cut out the
791:  tap root or the
Interviewer:  the roots?
791:  Right.
Interviewer:  Did did you ever use those for anything? Folks ever use roots to make medicine of any sort?
791:  #1 uh #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
791:  sassafras did but other than sassafras why I never knew of making uh anything out of the root now other than uh ma making different types of medicine now the limbs or the leaves
Interviewer:  Yeah
791:  #1 back in the old days why they #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  I don't I probably would never think of the name of it uh back in years ago why lots of people had {D: might be another word} raisins were boiled to think call them now
Interviewer:  yeah.
791:  and uh about the only way you could get rid of them was to take this particular bush that grew on the side of the spring branches and Toro creek and different creeks in this area
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  and they would uh make a tea out of that and give it to children and it would clear up the {D: rizens} for meeting just within a few days why you quit having them. maybe you'd have six or eight only. And then having them continue.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  and it would clear them up. It would clear clear up the bloodstream I presume.
Interviewer:  But you can't remember any any types of roots they might have made for {D: dunno the word pulises} or something like that or?
speaker#3:  {X}
791:  {NW} well that wasn't from the roots that was from the bark of uh red oak trees it'd make a red oak {D: word} polis
Interviewer:  I see
791:  for drawing out infection or anything #1 in fact #
Interviewer:  #2 okay #
791:  they use arsh potatoes.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  but it's it's a good mash arsh potato. You can make arsh potato {D: word} polis and draw out splinters or or anything like that in other words take uh raw arsh potatoes and scrape them. Like a {D: pollus} and it works.
speaker#3:  {X} Some people might
Interviewer:  Mr {X} can you what type of trees do you have here in the neighborhood?
791:  Pine hickory red oak post oak black gum black jack
Interviewer:  What's black jack?
791:  It's a type oak type of oak. Don't never get very large and then you got the sand jack acorn tree don't never get very large lot of times be just loaded with acorns and you got elm spruce you got all different types. Pretty well
Interviewer:  Have you got a a a kind of a tree with a white scaly bark and big
791:  chicken willow.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Got them
791:  plenty of them
Interviewer:  now here you got tall but what
791:  Catalpa
Interviewer:  Catalpa tree?
791:  Right.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now uh have you got that kind of big shrub that makes people break out sometimes it turns red in the fall uh some folks used to use it to tan leather with uh su- um sumac
791:  sumac?
Interviewer:  sumac?
791:  Sumac.
Interviewer:  You get that?
791:  I don't {NW} I don't believe I've gotten any of it here I know what you're #1 talking about I saw lots of it #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  it's around uh out of Toro it was around our old place and it grows up makes pretty good size uh not tree but pretty good size stalk #1 uh #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah shrubs #
791:  four five inches in diameter and be spread maybe 6 to 8 to 10 feet and just be loaded with little berries. Little clusters of berries like grapes only very small.
Interviewer:  What other types of berries you got here?
791:  blackberries huckleberries dewberries
Interviewer:  #1 you #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  strawberries
Interviewer:  can you raise rasp uh
791:  yeah you can raise raspberries.
Interviewer:  Raspberries okay. Now that's uh the kind the berries you can't eat you say they're better not be careful about those berries they might be
791:  poisonous
Interviewer:  poisonous okay. Um speaking of did you get kind of a a vine here that will just eat you up if you get
791:  poison ivy.
Interviewer:  poison ivy
791:  or poison oak.
Interviewer:  okay. um have you got a large flowering tree with a shiny white leaf here a?
791:  magnolia?
Interviewer:  yeah.
791:  #1 or or #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
791:  sweet bay.
Interviewer:  Okay any types of tall bushes with clusters of moons on them or sort of that thing like a you know smaller than pollen yeah that's a giant.
791:  not that I can remember off hand.
Interviewer:  you got laurel of any sort here?
791:  not that I know of.
Interviewer:  okay. now if a married woman doesn't want to make up her mind she says I have to ask my
791:  husband
Interviewer:  okay any older names uh? woman
791:  spouse.
Interviewer:  spouse okay. I'd better ask but but
speaker#3:  boss
791:  better ask the boss.
Interviewer:  Okay or and a man might say I must ask
791:  I'll have to ask the wife or
Interviewer:  the wife okay. a woman who's lost her husband is called a
791:  widow.
Interviewer:  now uh what you call did you have affectionate terms you might call your father or
791:  {NW} Uh dad or daddy
Interviewer:  what is your father
791:  my father.
Interviewer:  okay. and you might call your you your mother any other what you call her do you have any
791:  no my mother or
speaker#3:  Mom.
791:  Mom.
Interviewer:  okay alright. Your father and mother together called your
791:  Mother and dad
speaker#3:  parents.
791:  or parents.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now you're father's father is called your
791:  grandfather.
Interviewer:  well any names uh any other names for him you might call him uh
791:  grandpa or papa
Interviewer:  and your grand your grandmother you might call
791:  mama or {D: momma}
Interviewer:  mama okay
791:  or grandma.
Interviewer:  okay. Now uh something on wheels you put the baby in and the baby or then you take the baby out
791:  baby carriage
Interviewer:  #1 okay take #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  him out and do what? Go out with the baby going to what?
791:  Shopping. or to work.
Interviewer:  setting saying going to go to what?
speaker#3:  {X}
791:  Strolling?
Interviewer:  stroll the baby? okay. uh your children are your sons and
791:  daughters
Interviewer:  okay. did you have a boy or did y'all have any kids or you had
791:  oh yeah we we got uh two boys and one girl.
Interviewer:  Oh okay. Alright. Now if a woman is going to have a child you say she's
791:  pregnant.
Interviewer:  Okay any other ways folks would say it uh
791:  well she's going to
speaker#3:  expecting
791:  expecting or going to give birth to a child or
Interviewer:  okay you ever hear broke foot or #1 anything like that #
791:  #2 No. #
Interviewer:  if you don't have a doctor to deliver the baby you have to get a
speaker#3:  midwife.
791:  what is it midwife is it or what is it called?
Interviewer:  midwife? Did did they ever have an older name for it uh?
791:  that's That's what I'm wondering.
Interviewer:  #1 did did you ever #
791:  #2 feel like I did. #
Interviewer:  call it a granny or grand woman anything like that?
791:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  okay. um now if a boy and his father have the same appearance you say the boy
791:  has the same of which?
Interviewer:  has the same appearance. You say the boy
791:  oh that's taking after his father or the spitting image.
Interviewer:  okay. yeah if he looks like him you say he what he
791:  favors him.
Interviewer:  favors him okay. What about if he acquired the same sort of mannerisms or or uh behavior of his father you say he
791:  he's just like his daddy or
Interviewer:  okay. Alright.
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  any terms you use disapprovingly you know about acquiring his father's habits you know well that boy's drinking. He's a
791:  chip off of the old block or
Interviewer:  chip off the old block okay
791:  if his father if his father drinks he and he the boy drinks why you might say well some people refer to it well he's a chip off of the old block #1 the following in his #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
791:  dad's footsteps or something like that.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now to an only child you might say you're gonna get a
791:  spanking or paddling.
Interviewer:  paddling okay any other words uh
791:  lashing.
Interviewer:  lashing. Whooping or
791:  Whooping.
Interviewer:  Whooping okay.
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh now a child born to an unmarried woman is a
791:  uh illegitimate
Interviewer:  illegitimate okay. Any jesting names folks have for them uh you you ever hear them called anything uh else
791:  what do they call them?
speaker#3:  bastard.
791:  yeah call them bastard children.
Interviewer:  Okay. alright any names uh you heard used by other groups or by about blacks or by blacks or uh or white folks or anything like that? {NW}
791:  No not that I know
Interviewer:  Okay. Now your brother's son is called your
791:  nephew.
Interviewer:  {NS} Okay. {NS} A child that's lost both its father and mother is called
791:  a orphan.
Interviewer:  {NS} orphan. Okay. A person who's appointed to look after them
791:  guardian.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now if a woman gives a party uh invites all the people that are related to her you say she asked all all her
speaker#3:  relatives
791:  kinfolks or relatives
Interviewer:  okay. {NS} you might say yeah she has the same family name and she does look a bit like but we're actually
791:  no kin or
Interviewer:  no kind okay. No
791:  not related.
Interviewer:  not related okay. Somebody comes into town and you hadn't seen him before you might say he's a
791:  stranger.
Interviewer:  #1 okay would it make any difference #
791:  #2 newcomer. #
Interviewer:  newcomer?
791:  Right.
Interviewer:  Would would it make any difference how far he came from Mr? Foster or
791:  no it wouldn't make any difference in other words if you didn't know him and he was a stranger in town why it wouldn't make any difference whether he's five miles or five hundred. He'd be a stranger or a newcomer.
Interviewer:  Okay now those folks that came from Nulano they refer to Nulano they might be referred to as what?
791:  well they they'd be referred to a native of {X} uh #1 I don't know if I can quite follow you. #
Interviewer:  #2 well # well didn't didn't some now Mr. West called some of them foreigners.
speaker#3:  oh.
791:  Well yeah they were they were something
speaker#3:  when they first came in.
791:  When they first came in Nulano yeah they was they was from everywhere. uh I think German and I don't know what all the nationalities but they was all different uh nationalities.
Interviewer:  so what was a foreigner then? A foreigner thought it was a person who's from
791:  from for another country.
Interviewer:  Okay. you wouldn't use that word to describe somebody from this country?
791:  no. uh
Interviewer:  okay. Alright. Um now the mother of Jesus was
791:  uh Mary
Interviewer:  okay. And George Washington's wife is named
791:  Martha.
Interviewer:  Okay. a nickname for Helen beginning with "N" is who did the cow kick in his stomach in the barn? Remember the old song wait till sun shines? Uh N-E-L-O-Y you ever heard that? N-E-L-O-Y? N-E double L-Y. You never heard
791:  I don't think.
Interviewer:  Nelloy?
791:  Nelloy?
Interviewer:  Yeah. You ever heard that used for a nickname for Helen?
791:  I don't I don't believe all I all I ever heard was Nelly or Helly.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now the nickname for little boy named William would be
791:  Bill.
Interviewer:  Well you had a goat you'd call it a what goat a
791:  billy goat.
Interviewer:  okay. Now the gospels were written by first of the four gospels. You had Mark Luke John and
791:  {NW} Oh uh
Interviewer:  Let's see
791:  {X}
Interviewer:  Matt is a short
791:  Ma Matthew.
Interviewer:  Huh?
791:  No let's see
Interviewer:  Yeah. Matt is a short name for
791:  Matthew.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now a woman who has charge of a classroom is a
791:  teacher.
Interviewer:  Okay. You call any old fashioned names ahead for {NW}
791:  #1 No I don't #
Interviewer:  #2 the old # Going back to the old school to see my old schoolmarm or
791:  #1 No I #
Interviewer:  #2 never heard of that? #
791:  No.
Interviewer:  Now uh the baseball hall of fame is in okay maybe that do you generally watch baseball or keep up with it?
791:  I never I never was #1 too much on baseball. #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah yeah. # Awful. Uh then uh
791:  I usually spend my time fishing or hunting.
Interviewer:  okay can you pronounce that name for me?
791:  Now that's Cooper?
Interviewer:  Okay a woman by that name if you saw her going down the street you'd say good morning
791:  good morning Miss Miss Cooper.
Interviewer:  Miss Cooper okay. Now a man you wouldn't trust to build anything but chicken coop you know you might say if he started on the house the the boards would always come out a level and something like that you'd call him a what {D: word} confidant?
791:  Jack Black.
Interviewer:  jack black? Okay what what {NW} that word jack black what would you use it about uh would you use it about a preacher? Say a man who didn't have a regular pulpit and like called
791:  no I uh I never heard of a preacher that didn't have a regular pulpit called a a jack black or uh he'd usually be called a stump preacher.
Interviewer:  Stump preacher?
791:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. Somebody uh would you use that word about uh say he {X} you say oh he {X} was a what what what kind of governor would you say he was? Was he a good governor?
791:  Far as I know he was one the best.
Interviewer:  That's well that's my opinion of him too but I I I've heard some folks say he wasn't a good governor
791:  Well they you got a matter of opinion on any anything even the ones running for president of the united states now but uh
Interviewer:  He's an interesting man did do you remember do you know anything about him? You still remember?
791:  Oh I remember the day it happened just was uh due yesterday.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  Uh it happened in
Interviewer:  #1 36 or 37 #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  There's many a child stay in Louisiana it wouldn't have an education today that's my age or older or younger if it hadn't been for Huey P Long. A many a child. He's the man that uh made free textbooks to all students here. He's the man that passed it up until then why children was buying the textbooks and the parents didn't have the money to buy the school books with. {NS} But it was the money was too scarce there wasn't any.
Interviewer:  Now what relation would my mother's sister be to me?
791:  Be your aunt.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now the wife of Abraham was okay a girl's name beginning with an S uh
791:  beginning with S.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
speaker#3:  {X}
Interviewer:  S
speaker#3:  Susie
791:  Susie?
Interviewer:  No uh okay Sally is the nickname for uh well there's this there's this famous cake it's made by you know a a kind of a coffee cake or something like that it's made by these people they freeze it and the name of the company is blank Lee.
791:  #1 S #
speaker#3:  #2 {X} #
791:  #1 I think I know what you're #
Interviewer:  #2 okay. #
791:  referring to but I can't get it
Interviewer:  Sarah
speaker#3:  Sarah Lee
791:  Sarah Lee
Interviewer:  Okay alright. Now if your father had a brother by the name of John you'd call him
791:  had a son?
Interviewer:  your father had a brother by the name of John you'd call him
791:  Uncle John.
Interviewer:  Okay and by the name of William you'd call him
791:  Uncle William. William.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now you told me you were in the army uh you wouldn't if you if oh uh were you in the army?
791:  Right.
Interviewer:  Okay. That's
791:  I was.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now if old general Patton came up to you you wouldn't call him Mister Patton you'd say
791:  General Patton or sir.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh the old gentleman who introduced Kentucky Fried Chicken that was
791:  Kernel. Sanders.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now uh What do they call a man in charge of a ship?
791:  Captain.
Interviewer:  Captain? Okay. Did you ever hear that use title used in other situations or would would folks ever call use that uh as a general term of address or anything
791:  {NW} No Not that I know of not that I remember.
Interviewer:  Somebody maybe walking down the street you might say morning captain something like that to them.
791:  #1 Not unless it was captain #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
791:  police or #1 something like that. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # Did you ever hear a black man uh talk to a white man like that or say howdy captain something like that
791:  Yeah I've heard I've heard them. Morning captain but
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright. Now the man who presides over a county court how do you address him?
791:  Judge.
Interviewer:  okay. And a person who goes to school to study is a
791:  student.
Interviewer:  okay. Now somebody employed like Elizabeth Reye to look after uh a congressman or businessman's private secretary private business is his private
791:  private secretary?
Interviewer:  yeah okay. {NW} Did you you heard about that business in Washington?
791:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  Ain't that something?
Interviewer:  I got a sister who works up there but she doesn't work she works for a university she doesn't work down there she notified me of that Now uh folks a man who appears in a stage would be an actor a woman would be called a
791:  actress.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now your nationality anybody born in the United States is called a
speaker#3:  American.
791:  American.
Interviewer:  American? Okay. uh Now uh did talking about names for uh they used to have special facilities up until a couple of years ago Special facilities you know even ride the bus and things like #1 that for #
791:  #2 right #
Interviewer:  for who for the
791:  colored people.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
791:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  Alright now did did folks have different names for that? For them? You know they used to call what
speaker#3:  Niggers.
Interviewer:  {X} #1 go ahead #
791:  #2 yeah # Yeah they
Interviewer:  okay. Okay um any any you know slang names slang terms that you can remember like you know in Georgia they used to call them gator bait. You know they drag them through the swamps the uh that sort of thing. old gator bait uh any other
791:  I never I never was around uh too many of them uh when I was a boy growing up they was the nigger settlement not too off far 6 or 8 miles but
Interviewer:  Yeah
791:  I we never did work any of them and uh I never was around any of them I worked uh with one for 11 years
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  whenever I would mow the fence and only one I worked with one for 11 years
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  and a lot of times why we would swap work I'd get him out here to help me if he needed to work or find something to fix why I'd help him and uh I've never had a second's trouble with him.
speaker#3:  {X} work him.
791:  uh But I never was around too never did work with them but this one one particular one course out in the service why they was few but very few
Interviewer:  okay.
791:  and I never was around enough of them to to harm another.
Interviewer:  Okay. Well would you would you use the word nigger usually uh or or would folks um uh you know around you use it a lot?
791:  oh yes. That's
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  that's in other words that was the name then look back in those days was nigger
Interviewer:  Yeah But folks now like to be they like to be called
speaker#3:  black
791:  black people or
Interviewer:  okay.
791:  I don't think they want to be colored called colored people or that is the younger ones don't The old ones why it doesn't make them that way nigger
Interviewer:  Yeah. Um
791:  {X} I've even got I've even got the in a predicament working with this one why something wasn't really done right and I said {X} with the other boy in fact I was with uh one two let's see two I worked with there was four of us and they was three of them that couldn't read or write.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
791:  N Nary a one of them could read or write. And if they wasn't doing something that I thought was right I'd tell them before I'd even think to myself let's don't nigger it up now. #1 Let's do it right. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
791:  It ain't worth doing right it ain't worth doing at all. And I'd say before I'd even think about saying don't nigger it up.
Interviewer:  {NW} okay. Ever get mad at you?
791:  No he never get mad at it.
Interviewer:  okay.
791:  He he was one of them
speaker#3:  might laugh.
791:  He'd laugh. That he doesn't he don't like the way the other ones are doing {X} He'd ride all the time with us says it's ruining the world Mr. Lee he'd tell you and me. {NS}
Interviewer:  uh now uh but you and I we're we're called #1 what? #
791:  #2 white. #
Interviewer:  white okay. Now any any names we we talked about peckerwood any other names that that folks had for people or when they were you know
791:  uh when it's over uh
Interviewer:  #1 yeah derogatory names #
791:  #2 {D: probably not?} parlor games or #
Interviewer:  folks had for for white folks.
791:  Oh they might say he's overbearing or
Interviewer:  well no just a you know to any words that black folks would use towards white people or or white people would use towards other white people?
791:  no no no not that I know of.
Interviewer:  You old peckerwood or what about somebody who live back in the woods somewhere and never never came into town when he ever came into town he was always conspicuous you know he was just a oh he's just an old
791:  hermit or
Interviewer:  hermit {NW}
speaker#3:  tramp. {NW}
791:  tramp. If he didn't dress. Decent or neat
Interviewer:  Yeah
791:  you couldn't always go by that if what a man has like years ago why you couldn't go by how a man dress
Interviewer:  yeah.
speaker#3:  #1 {X} #
791:  #2 I was # I was working for a fellow that's still in business in Leesville
Interviewer:  {NW}
791:  And there was an old fellow walked up there and had on a pair of overalls and a blue denim shirt and like we was talking about yesterday had on a pair of blue overalls and a blue denim shirt and a jumper
Interviewer:  Yeah.
791:  and he asked about the price for a butane tank and a stove and refrigerator and I don't know what all uh in the line of equipment or uh appliances and just because he had on them blue overalls and a blue jumper and blue denim shirt why they didn't figure he had the money to buy a nickel can of snuff and
Interviewer:  {NW} they more or less smarted him off and he said well if y'all worried about the money and he just pulled out this big old {D: uncertain of words used} shovel