811:  {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah um did you uh now when you were talking about somebody in the army you they'd be called a what
811:  A soldier
Interviewer:  Okay or somebody who was high up would be a uh
811:  Uh Uh Be a sergeant or Captain or Lieutenant
Interviewer:  Higher than that
811:  A major
Interviewer:  And then higher than that would be a
811:  Uh
Interviewer:  Who's that old fellow who invented fried chicken
811:  Uh {NW} Colonel
Interviewer:  Okay and then higher than him would be a well I mean you talking about old when you're talking about say Eisenhower they call him a what
811:  Be a general
Interviewer:  Alright um now the man who who who's presides over the county court here is a what
811:  Uh
Interviewer:  In in town
811:  Oh that's the uh That would be the mayor
Interviewer:  Okay or no who presides over the court he wears a black robe
811:  Oh the judge
Interviewer:  Yeah you got who's who's the fellow in town
811:  Uh We ain't got not judge in uh Church Point.
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Uh Our circuit judge is uh {NW} In Crowley Uh Where we got uh we got our mayor Town counsel and everything yeah if anything going Into town that's where You had a beaten idea {D: Say where you go to hire your coach, you go uh} To Crowley
Interviewer:  Yeah is is Crowley where you go to do most of your
811:  So yeah that's where uh the courthouse and everything is
Interviewer:  You go there to do your
811:  Uh Your business uh Whatever
Interviewer:  Yeah but I mean when you got to say do some
811:  Uh
Interviewer:  You go Okay you're talking about going to town to do some
811:  Oh shopping or
Interviewer:  Yes
811:  Or uh Uh You don't have to go Crowley to do your - You go to Church Point and do your shopping but uh Like Legal business uh And that's when you got uh all the {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  That would be uh At the courthouse at Crowley
Interviewer:  Okay um around around a courthouse they got a what they got one of those big old you know a place around the courthouse where you can you can sit and there'd be trees and grass
811:  #1 Uh #
Interviewer:  #2 And everything #
811:  #1 Uh #
Interviewer:  #2 They call that # A what that's a
811:  Uh they call that the courthouse square
Interviewer:  Uh now somebody who would be employed in an office like in in Crowley or something like that would be called a private the man's private you know she'd look after his mail and everything
811:  Or a private secretary
Interviewer:  Yeah uh what's a person who went uh who was when you went into town would you go into the to see a what to see a
811:  Uh You could go in to see a doctor or
Interviewer:  Go to the where if you wanted to be entertained you go to the where would you see a play or a movie
811:  Or at at the movies
Interviewer:  Okay
811:  Go into town to see a a movie
Interviewer:  And you'd go to the what
811:  Uh to the theater
Interviewer:  Uh now let's see uh they say that uh they'd somebody was an actor John Wayne was an actor or uh Nicole Bailey was a a woman was a
811:  A singer or actor
Interviewer:  Okay a woman would be a a man was an actor a woman would be a you know a woman you see on TV she's a what she's a
811:  A female actor
Interviewer:  Okay or actress
811:  Actress
Interviewer:  Uh now anybody born in in this country is a you know
811:  Is a citizen of the United States
Interviewer:  Yeah when you start thinking about the problems other countries have it makes you proud that you're
811:  You're a Citizen of the United States
Interviewer:  Yeah that you're a
811:  A a citizen
Interviewer:  Yeah uh you know they say uh I'm proud those stickers you see on cars
811:  I
Interviewer:  Bumper sticker
811:  I'm proud to be American
Interviewer:  Right um um now but things were I know were different long ago when say when your farm was coming up and they had different facilities for even different water fountains f
811:  Yeah {D: Well what actually did we} had that In North Louisiana
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  When I was coming up there, that been about Ten twelve years ago
Interviewer:  Yeah, was it- was it- what about here
811:  Uh A lot of trouble we had The year that I remember Uh That was between the black and the white it was They didn't want to segregate the schools And they uh And they Started uh Some of 'em put uh well I was under the instruction to get married Uh
Interviewer:  To where
811:  The instruction- you had to go to the instruction to get married And uh
Interviewer:  Oh Catholic
811:  Yeah And uh we had a bunch of priests doctors and such that would come down And speak So we went Uh Me and my wife Was two black couples that was going there was Twenty-two couples And the rest was white {X} And then my sister went and saw it About uh Three or Three or four months after this And uh The uh Went there with shotguns started to say that black man over there they're going to kill him And so uh
Interviewer:  For what for
811:  They didn't want him going To We had a church in our quarter they had a church And they didn't want us to go up there So Everybody finds out about that that was you know like The fellow I was working for He found out about it and he told me And he told me there and my sister not to go And some of the The big people that was in town was involved in
Interviewer:  The man you worked for you called him
811:  {X} He uh He didn't tell me nothing about it Because he knew I wasn't going didn't know my sister and I was going But uh My mother-in-law She knew- a lady that she was working for- she finds out about it so she {X} {D: Then she thought got to go to} instruction And so they they didn't go they was around there with guns and stuff saying they was gonna kill her And it went on like that Uh And they start to- the blacks started to try push it some of them some of them was bullied But most of them didn't care about it Because uh We had our own church and everything we had our clubs and stuff If we wanted to go drink a beer or something But most of 'em wanted to go to the Wanted to go to the white church {X} {D: They're white they} Bruised 'em up beat 'em up So then uh The blacks decided they wanted a school The federal government wasn't going to build the school and it was segregated
Interviewer:  Federal government
811:  The federal government wasn't gonna give no funds to build the school And that would segregate the school Okay to build the school Said they're just going to segregate it Uh The school they built for the black was just going to be from uh From the eight And go to the The tenth grade
Interviewer:  It'd be the eight
811:  {NW} The ni- eighth ninth and tenth I believe is what it was {D: That is} The six seven eight nine Yeah it was six seven eight and nine they had to find a way For it Why then They didn't want to {D: Give no driver's ed's course} When they got there {D: This Jones as if he's} From New York He came down here and led a march Uh They went uh picket uh The school board {X} And then people made the mistake of getting out of their office To come see what was going on it was hot that day We was hauling in rice And they made the mistake of getting out of that air conditioned office and come outside And then they wouldn't let them get back in
Interviewer:  Whew
811:  And then they just stayed out there all day in that hot sun And uh Well I was in the civil defense then So they Called us and told us to stand by They had the sheriff department police department out there And uh After that day they got what they wanted {NW} And after that They segregated the schools And uh
Interviewer:  You mean they integrated
811:  Yeah They integrated the schools All the schools the convert and everything
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  And whenever and the kids had that choice whether they wanted to make their first community confirmation they could have made it with that class Or either they could have went to another church And uh {NS} And we'd been Went over to kids my kids uh Made their first communion or A confirmation we all went to the white church and it was just as nice {X} Her best friend is Is white people And {NS}
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  After the ones that wanted to push you know Push it before it was time {D: admitted bad on them} They didn't need you know just as long as I had a priest to go I didn't care if anybody was going to their places And uh Then And whenever they had something {X} If they needed something like needed some help or something wanted us to go away
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
811:  For a {D: Civil defense} We'd go Yeah shouldn't- we did something back from one of the stores or something uh {X} She We had to learn about it And fellows with {X} And everything
Interviewer:  Yeah um well what what did they call what would what would they call you in other words when they got
811:  Uh when they got mad at you You you think they mostly we were the poor like we were They'd call you a nigger
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Or stuff like that
Interviewer:  Okay
811:  Would you think a man that was intelligent It's very seldom he'd call you that But you take a poor fellow That was {X} Yeah, they would be the first one that was gonna call you that
Interviewer:  Yeah okay um when when they uh alright well when what would you call them in other words did you did did other folks have names for them
811:  Oh they'd call them kids and honkies And stuff like that I never put myself in a position where I was called what
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  {NW} But you know Forget me {X}
Interviewer:  Okay
811:  But I had a few of 'em When we were smaller calling me that there They had some rascals They'll call it to you just to call it to you
Interviewer:  Yeah we talked about
811:  Well you I I'd say uh
Interviewer:  Like the man you worked for he was you'd call him a what they'd call well I mean they would call he would call them a what you know there was a difference between a poor white and a rich man in other words and they would call him a
811:  {X} We called him a a poor fellow That that was the fellow {D: arrived there at the lowest one he} {D: Now he'd call him a poor frog in a minute}
Interviewer:  Okay now a Cajun was a what
811:  A Cajun Was what you call a French man
Interviewer:  Okay you ever hear them called a coon hat
811:  Yeah they'd call {NW} They're they're called another {X} you know
Interviewer:  What
811:  {NW} Uh the whites you call them a coon hat
Interviewer:  Okay we mentioned the word pecker wood do you ever hear them say that
811:  Yeah Call them peckerwood or a {D: humpy} But during the time
Interviewer:  #1 That was #
811:  #2 when there was a #
Interviewer:  What blacks would say to them
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  It was okay
811:  And {D: looking you had to make a white that was on}
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  But you know i- it got so {D: on the last} W- with a black After a white would call them a- a nigger or something
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Th- the ones that had a little sense They'd tell you {X} You know who your brother is
Interviewer:  Oh I know I know
811:  They'd tell him something like that you know It'd make him mad enough he wanted to fight you it'd {D: appeal to nobody} Wasn't anybody's business
Interviewer:  Yeah well uh showed a lot more sense in it than a lot of folks around here uh but um did you ever hear the word cracker used? like we- we- okay uh now and then there were the type of men who who lived way back in the woods or the type of people who lived way back in the woods and they hardly ever got out of the town was there a place around here that they could live like that
811:  Yeah I I know some people that are {NS} Live like that now Uh I don't believe they even got no electricity
Interviewer:  They're just
811:  They can go to town but they go to town about once a month {NS} They live about a Mile a half down this road here {D: Maybe even further}
Interviewer:  You say they're what they're
811:  Well There's people that
Interviewer:  They call them what
811:  Uncivilized you know they didn't Follow When everything else came {NS}
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  When the world was getting to be civilized they They stayed in a nutshell
Interviewer:  Uh somebody who lived back in a swamp like that they'd call them a
811:  Uh
Interviewer:  Or somebody maybe who lived up in the Piney Woods up in north Louisiana they have names for them
811:  Uh yeah they did let me think they were called {NS} {NW} They didn't like to call them hillbillies
Interviewer:  Alright you know what a Hoosier was you ever hear that
811:  Uh-uh
Interviewer:  Okay uh but a {D: bakra} you never anybody call anybody a {D: bakra} okay or a peck same thing
811:  Oh yeah {NW}
Interviewer:  A peck right okay {NS} Somebody uh was was waiting for you to get ready and you had to go out with him and he'd call to you and he'd say will you be ready soon and you say I'll be with you in
811:  In a minute
Interviewer:  Just
811:  Uh Just a minute
Interviewer:  Okay uh when you were going out and you knew you were on the right road to go somewhere but you weren't sure uh of the distance you'd say uh you'd ask somebody on the road you'd say how
811:  How far uh Such city {NS}
Interviewer:  To going to say to Crowley you'd say how
811:  How far do I have left to go to get to Crowley
Interviewer:  Okay uh when you're pointing out something nearby to somebody you'd say what now
811:  That over there
Interviewer:  Look
811:  Look over there
Interviewer:  Yeah uh and somebody wanted to know how many times you went to Crowley they'd ask you how
811:  How many times did I
Interviewer:  How o- how
811:  How often did you go to Crowley
Interviewer:  Okay uh okay when um when you wanted to agree with a friend when he was saying something that I'm not going to do that you might say well me
811:  I ain't going to do it either
Interviewer:  Okay me
811:  Me either
Interviewer:  Okay uh blank am I uh you'd say blank am I or am I
811:  Neither am I
Interviewer:  Neither am I uh now when you okay when you're feeling uh Joe when you're feeling a little uh you're feeling a little say feverish or something like that you might what do you feel to see whether you got whether it's your heart or not
811:  I feel my forehead or
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Check my pulse or
Interviewer:  Yeah you do that occasionally now you you've gotten where you take better care of yourself now
811:  {NW} {D: try to} {NW}
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  A whole lot better care I I got to tell you how- I never realized how sick I was
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Until I was still {D: this way} Had so many things that That I went on doing it that long I was over there but I don't remember {NS}
Interviewer:  Did like did your uh did you ever know that you had high blood pressure before
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Heart attack
811:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer:  How long was that
811:  Uh The doctor had told me
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  About two years before I had the first heart attack He told me He said if you don't quit eating all that seasoning And All that rich food and stuff you see you're going to have a stroke either a heart attack And he's a doctor he lacks the He lacks his patience but he What he says that's where you ought to go
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  And he'll cuss you out in a minute And I say
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
811:  And sure enough {NS} I made it thirty years old {NW} I had one Well that's it He knew what he was talking about
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  And then I {D: folded hard and} Got carried away and I Didn't think of myself again Had another one
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  {X}
Interviewer:  What
811:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Let me whether you had things like that
811:  Uh How long you going to be uh Well #1 {D: gone now} #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh # I I'll be here through um I guess tomorrow the day after would that be okay would you
811:  {NS} {NW} Let me see tomorrow Tomorrow's Wednesday
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  {NW} Uh
Interviewer:  {D: Hey June}
811:  {NW} Yeah so we're done {NS} {NW}
Interviewer:  Sure your sister or your mother there {X}
811:  Uh
Interviewer:  It ain't it ain't contaminated or anything
811:  {NW}
Interviewer:  I just brought some of it out here
811:  You can't close it you've got to go from the outside uh You find all your stuff {NS}
Interviewer:  {D: What about this}
811:  That's the one medicine they never did love {NS} {D: bad}
Interviewer:  What was in the can
811:  Uh that's uh your your vitamin
Interviewer:  There in that little bottle
811:  Uh yeah but he say he do that About
Interviewer:  Give to eat
811:  Huh
Interviewer:  Give to eat
811:  He said you're gonna eat it That that uh he's taking a {X} Off his feet {NS} And uh {NS} That that one medicine the one in that little bag
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
811:  Uh he said take it and put it in his {D: feed}
Interviewer:  {X}
811:  Yeah that's the dose of one but I told him you Either right around five-hundred dollars
Interviewer:  {X}
811:  {D: How do they get it that small} I thought you were supposed to {X}
Interviewer:  {X}
811:  No way We thought I might got it
Interviewer:  You give me the flu
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Oh let me get somebody {X}
811:  I seen you {D: fracking} In there this morning might've seen him outside Went to put him back in I didn't go all the way {NS}
Interviewer:  {X}
811:  {NS} Uh go move his car {D: doing that}
Interviewer:  Oh my car
811:  Yeah Your keys on {NS}
Interviewer:  Okay would Thursday afternoon be okay
811:  Uh Yeah
Interviewer:  Okay what time about
811:  Uh
Interviewer:  Same time
811:  About oh yeah about two
Interviewer:  Okay
811:  {NS} Hill busy hillbilly music or country music
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  That's uh definitely {X}
Interviewer:  Um let's see yeah that's okay {X}
811:  Oh All right
Interviewer:  Um how's the weather how's the weather been down here have y'all had any rain
811:  Mm no we haven't had no rain since uh Uh last week when we got that That flood
Interviewer:  Yeah when you go a long time without having rain here you say you're having a
811:  A drought
Interviewer:  Yeah right now you just say you're having a I'm having a drought
811:  No we Don't Really re- need no rain right now
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Uh not for the farmers' use use because they uh For their much got enough for a while
Interviewer:  Yeah um when was the last now that rain you said we had a couple weeks ago that was a
811:  Well uh with the last week uh I would call that a flood
Interviewer:  Flood when you uh you say you might not be having a real heavy rain you might just be having a
811:  Well We'd call it a little sprinkle or
Interviewer:  Yeah when when you have lot of rain come at a little time that's a
811:  That's a flood
Interviewer:  Yeah say we had a regular
811:  {NW} R- a regular flood or regular downpour
Interviewer:  Downpour uh say when you get a lot of do you ever get a lot of thunder and lightning with that or
811:  {NW} Yeah generally some will get quite uh Electric storms or And it's real bad rain though Oh dear if you had one of that {D: full day} in the morning or something you You were around a TV shop You can't get there cause it doesn't boy almost everybody's TV In the neighborhood Or like during the day {D: more than one} Connect their TVs or Or you get a bad one like {D: full day} In the morning People don't get up and disconnect them after lightning hit their Anyway not all Uh anyway you got your switches cut off if you got them still plugged to this {D: boiler} If it hit the {D: wasp} You get a Quite a bit of that here in the summer
Interviewer:  Do you get any bad winds around here
811:  Uh Mostly the winds you get Real bad winds there's uh In hurricanes {NW} Uh Let's see fifty-seven We had a bad bad hurricane With Hurricane Audrey That was the first one over in new And it uh Came out the mouth of the Mississippi up there on Cameron I don't know what I think it's Cameron Parish Oh it killed Oh hundreds and hundreds of people It uh It washed 'em out about The the tidal winds and stuff Washed them up the Lake Charles
Interviewer:  {NW}
811:  And on these streets they just had bodies stacked up All the way to Everybody that they had about two or three people that survived that were That was in {D: it all}
Interviewer:  A lot of people got
811:  They- They wanted them to get out but the people wouldn't leave {X} {NS} Wanted to send the national guard and that would make them get out they wouldn't get out And the storm just Tidal waves came in there Just washed them away They found a couple Three of 'em on houses and mattresses and stuff in trees The snakes were so bad most of 'em they find was in shock They had to cut the branches They was holding so tight to They couldn't make 'em turn loose they had to take something and cut the branches to get them out of the tree or Whatever
Interviewer:  Where was that
811:  That was in uh Cameron Parish that- that's uh south of Lake Charles That's right to the To the gulf
Interviewer:  Uh do you get any bad winds here
811:  Uh The last hurricane we had I don't remember what year it was but I would wake up and assume the fence had uh
Interviewer:  What did it do
811:  And uh report we got uh Oh yeah it was clocked at about a hundred and three miles an hour
Interviewer:  {NW}
811:  That was about Four Four forty-five in the morning And then it lasted About for fifteen minutes And then it kind of that's when we just before we got to die of the hurricane it And then it landed uh Then about for Fifteen minutes it stayed calm calm When we was in the eye of it After the eye passed we got uh winds about up to ninety miles an hour again was Kind of on the backside of it But b- just before the high end that's when we got about About a hundred and three miles an hour
Interviewer:  Oh did it do any damage does it ever do any damage to things around here
811:  Uh This wind you don't get Uh Too much down here this blows uh roofs off barns and uh {NS} Well it does enough like trailer houses it blows them over But uh it was Three years ago Uh In Crowley we had a tornado came through just before {X}
Interviewer:  And it
811:  It flattened everything in its pass Well We- I went by there uh They called us up About four oh clock in the afternoon to go uh {NS} {X} At night And I got there about Six thirty But I didn't hear how bad Bad it was you know uh we just went out then they put us to our post Well you watch this while the people go in there looting and stealing and stuff So we just Sat out there in the Here come a state trooper, and you say you say I'm going to take you Sight seeing They didn't have no power all electricity was cut off
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  And we passed on {X} Said that's where a big house was right there There was nothing Just a vacant lot Some {NW} Houses you would pass by that was brick houses
Interviewer:  They had
811:  They had no walls no top nothing And whatever they had sitting on the table cars and stuff they're all parked and stuff just like that They had 'em parking over they had on the table was on the table It hadn't disturbed none of that but first uh The frame of the building it was gone And uh Nobody Got killed in there But it happened in the morning before day One person died from there out in the country but it Oh it must have destroyed maybe about Seventy-five eighty ninety homes That was a total Disaster {D: endured}
Interviewer:  Hmm
811:  That was one of the worst things they used To me usually see that on TV You know elsewhere, but you see that close on
Interviewer:  The wind that's just
811:  Oh that Tornado just came through and Had people that tell me that uh in their brick house that they heard it coming you know Just a big roaring noise And uh They had the air conditioning on in the brick house and all the wind that It it just would take it and suck it and blow it up They had so much pressure If they would've had a window Or something open But it it had The They told me they had so much pressure in that uh {D: cycle that it was turning} They said it must have been Going anywhere From two hundred to three hundred miles an hour see that {D: type of wind} About two good seconds for it to go through
Interviewer:  Hmm
811:  And uh One lady told me she had a A window up in the bathroom A crack in it And she had the door closed And she the roaring noise it passed about A block Well it had tore up stuff a block from her house {NW} And she said when she woke up The curtains were sticking to the window And you couldn't pull them back And finally she fit And opened the door Into the bathroom She couldn't raise no windows up and the window that had the crack in it {NW} When she opened it she said her house had started cracking
Interviewer:  {NW}
811:  And when she opened it The door she got a chance to raise the window And she said uh It There the rain And wind so curtain was standing stiff {NS} It had sucked the {NW} Said that's what usually happened if you've got a brick house because with double wood frame house You got cracks
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  And it's going to do that But a brick house that's well sealed It'll blow up uh with the suction and just suck it off
Interviewer:  Uh if you say the wind is coming from that direction where does the wind come from the wind
811:  Well Usually when you got well it may come from anywhere it may come from the Way over the clouds if you've got a Come from the south but most of them you get them from the south it's coming out of the Out of the gulf Very soon you'll get one coming From the west or the north Most of them will come out of the The south southwest or Southeast
Interviewer:  Yeah um did it ever okay now when you have a just a little light rain you say you're having a
811:  Well just getting a little sprinkle
Interviewer:  When you wake up something a little harder than a sprinkle was a you know
811:  A shower
Interviewer:  When you wake up uh in the morning sometimes do you ever does it ever can you not see outside
811:  I guess sometime it's foggy
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  It'd be fog
Interviewer:  You get you get that here a lot
811:  Uh
Interviewer:  It rolls in off the gulf
811:  Uh yeah but most of it you get just patches You don't get uh You might Leave from church it ain't got none you get up and you can't see nothing But uh Sometimes you get just a solid block of it before you You know The whole community you might {X} And the more closer you get around water the worse it is Uh don't have too too much water Right there We in one of the best Part of the country for tornadoes and hurricanes Course we get some here but where we're at we're kind of on a hill we ain't got no bottom and they told me the spot I A low place wherever there's water And uh I you know well we We don't get Too too many but we get our share
Interviewer:  Yeah um do you have any ways you tell the weather or you know since you've been farming all your life
811:  Uh You know a farmer's a gambler He just takes his chances he You might have called a weather forecast long range weather forecast They might tell you uh Especially like during a Hay season You don't want to cut no hay and have it rain or {NW} You'll call the weather forecast anyway you're going to have s- Sunny skies for a week And you go out there and cut hay fifty sixty acres of hay and it starts to rain Another thing you do is use your own judgment if you will {D: oh the weather is} When you get out there say well we're going to take our chances it ain't going to rain we're going to cut it
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  But uh you can hardly tell too much predict the weather too much
Interviewer:  Um you can look at the
811:  Or you can look at the the skies and Kind of make up your mind Decide what you're going to do It the same way like uh well almost anything on the farm like if you want the flat rice or Cut rice or something Usually when you have a hurricane coming that's uh The hurricane season during harvest time the rice yeah And uh if your rice a little green You're going to lose on the On the yield if you cut it green But after a hurricane hit you you'll lose more So if you can get enough labor to get in there and help you to cut it That way it's kind of grain you're going to lose but you You ever lose as much if you let the hurricane come blow it all down
Interviewer:  Uh when you look at the sky you look at the
811:  Or you look at the clouds or the weather
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Try to Try to predict it
Interviewer:  Yeah what about the wind like uh
811:  Usually if you get a A south wind You can kind of A strong south wind you can kind of expect rain but if You get a A dry east wind Or like a either a north wind You're going to worry too much about rain {NS} Like I said It's on the fence {NS} Would you go out and close that door please
Aux:  All right
Interviewer:  What this
811:  Yeah it well I
Interviewer:  I thought I closed it
811:  No it uh sticks whenever the sun shines on it you've got to {X}
Interviewer:  What
811:  Um {NS} In the morning In the mornings it open good
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  And after the sun's shining on it and that night It opens and close I don't know what happened to it {NS} It ain't supposed to sway {NS}
Interviewer:  Yeah strange huh um now on a day when you look up at the sky and there are no clouds around you say I believe I'm going to have a
811:  Uh a clear day
Interviewer:  Okay
811:  No rain
Interviewer:  It's gonna be a what kind of day say
811:  It's gonna be a pretty day
Interviewer:  Pretty day uh and then on an opposite kind of day it's not a nice day and sunny and shining and bright you'd say it's a
811:  Cloudy day
Interviewer:  Cloudy day some mighty kind of weather we're having a mighty
811:  Mighty bad weather we're having
Interviewer:  Um the clouds are getting thicker and thicker and you think you figure you're going to have some rain or something you know and the wind stops and and you say I believe the weather is
811:  Is fixing to change we're going to get some rain
Interviewer:  Yeah and the wind might have been going pretty hard and it just
811:  Some of the wind comes down you can expect rain {NW}
Interviewer:  Or when you've been out in the field and the wind has been gentle and it starts
811:  Starting to kick up you can expect a change in the weather The wind's gonna shift or Either it's gonna rain
Interviewer:  Yeah uh well if it's been cloudy and uh the clouds pull away and the sun comes out you say the weather is
811:  It's breaking up
Interviewer:  Uh a morning say in the fall when you first go outdoors like a couple nights ago we had that type of weather were you out there
811:  No
Interviewer:  Late night Friday you find it's a little cold but not really disagreeably cold you say wind is kind of going
811:  Kind of goes through you kind of nippy
Interviewer:  A little nippy a little oh it's a little what outside
811:  Little chilly
Interviewer:  Chilly uh if there's a white coating on the ground in the morning you say you had a
811:  A frost
Interviewer:  Do you uh you ever have any problems with water around here the water did what it might
811:  Uh freeze up or
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Dry We had some problems with this past winter more so {NS} Uh We haven't had a Winter like that in quite a while
Interviewer:  Yeah hmm uh but generally the weather's pretty good here
811:  Yeah you get a For about the last uh Four or five years you had a good Year for harvesting the crops
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  That's the important day if you've got a good year to harvest
Interviewer:  With all the stuff they've got now they can pretty much make a crop can't they
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  They can raise them
811:  {NW} They can pretty much raise a A good crop or Well a crop's like anything else if you've got the season for it Uh you can do good but if not {NW} The season and the price that's what makes the difference
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  And if you get two bad ones together you just caught
Interviewer:  Okay um now all right where did uh an old time storekeeper would keep his pistol behind his
811:  Behind his ear
Interviewer:  Well if he was left-handed he'd keep it behind his
811:  Uh he'd keep it behind his left ear
Interviewer:  And if he was right-handed
811:  He'd keep it behind his right ear
Interviewer:  Okay uh now this is your you've got a chicken bone caught in your
811:  In my throat
Interviewer:  Yeah they call it your
811:  Your goozle
Interviewer:  Your goozle okay what is that
811:  Uh what's a goozle
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  {NW} That means that's your throat
Interviewer:  Oh okay #1 They call it throat #
811:  #2 {NW} # Mm-hmm
Interviewer:  Uh when you go to the dentist he looks at your
811:  At your teeth
Interviewer:  He'll pull a
811:  He'll pull a teeth uh a tooth out
Interviewer:  Yeah you've got pretty good teeth you don't hardly ever have any problems with them
811:  Oh I had quite a few when I was Young boy {NS} Toothache here It was awful
Interviewer:  And then there's a disease of a pyorrhea
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Disease of the
811:  Uh of the gums
Interviewer:  Um now this is the you call that the
811:  The palm of your hand
Interviewer:  Yeah you could hold something in your
811:  Hand in my hand The palm of my hand
Interviewer:  Uh okay now when you get mad at somebody you make
811:  {NW} You made a fist
Interviewer:  When you duke it out with him say when you were duking it out with your brother
811:  Oh was a- was a fight {NW}
Interviewer:  You hit him with both
811:  Oh yeah hit him with both of 'em
Interviewer:  Both
811:  Both fists
Interviewer:  Yeah uh now the upper part of a man's body is his
811:  His chest
Interviewer:  Okay well they'd say they'd say uh you got broad
811:  Broad shoulders
Interviewer:  Um when people start getting old they complain that they're getting stiff in their
811:  In their arms their legs that they {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah stiff in the what
811:  In their joints
Interviewer:  Uh and uh you got a pain in in both of your
811:  Both of my foots
Interviewer:  Yeah uh when you go out in the dark you might stumble and bruise your
811:  Uh your Your leg
Interviewer:  Yeah this is the front part of your leg
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Call it your you know
811:  Uh your knee
Interviewer:  Yeah but you ever you ever stumble over something in the dark
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Bruise your just bruise the #1 Part of your #
811:  #2 The # The part of your leg
Interviewer:  Yeah uh okay when uh say you were out at night with friends and and the ground was too cold to sit down on you would you would just do what s
811:  Would just uh standing
Interviewer:  Stand up or you could you wanted to get warm by the fire so you would
811:  Oh you could uh Make a fire And gather around it
Interviewer:  Gather around it you wouldn't stand up you'd
811:  You'd just squat down
Interviewer:  Squat down on your what
811:  On your uh
Interviewer:  Call it your you know what your hunkers are your you ever heard of that #1 Go for that #
811:  #2 {X} # When you're all fours
Interviewer:  Yeah well no that's crawl that's when you get on your all fours you start to
811:  Starting to crawl
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  {X}
Interviewer:  No hunker down you ever heard anybody say that
811:  Yeah but we had other names for it
Interviewer:  Yeah uh somebody was sick a while he was up now but they say he still looks a little bit
811:  He looks a little bit drowsy He don't look quite well yet Well he's getting along good
Interviewer:  They might say he probably felt a little
811:  Kind of bad he feel Fell quite up {D: to forehead}
Interviewer:  Uh a person who who was overweight but real strong they'd say he was a
811:  He was a big man
Interviewer:  Yeah mighty
811:  Mighty strong
Interviewer:  Strong man or other words other ways to describe it would you ever say he was stout
811:  Yeah if he was a heavier set man
Interviewer:  Would be a
811:  A a big man Kind of overweight
Interviewer:  That'd be a
811:  A heavyset man
Interviewer:  Okay or another way
811:  A fat man
Interviewer:  Would you say stout
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  He was
811:  A stout man
Interviewer:  Person who always had a smile on his face and never lost his temper
811:  Believe that was a gentle fellow
Interviewer:  Yeah about him they'd say he's always in a
811:  Always in a good humor
Interviewer:  Uh when I was a boy I would walk around and always stumble over things and somebody like me a person a parent would call
811:  Uh {NW}
Interviewer:  You know a big boy like your boy
811:  Uh yeah that was 'un-neat they Just leave all his stuff that is a {D: slouchy} Fellow
Interviewer:  {NW} Yeah also a fellow who uh who did things you know he was always knocking things over
811:  Clumsy A clumsy fellow too
Interviewer:  Uh he didn't he didn't mean to do it he was just
811:  Just clumsy he just
Interviewer:  Yeah he was
811:  Careless
Interviewer:  Uh or you might say something somebody he didn't do it that wasn't an accident he did it
811:  On purpose
Interviewer:  Uh a man who kept doing things that didn't make any sense they'd say he was just a plain
811:  A plain in uh Plain stupid {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh you know kind who would always uh cut maybe planned to cut hay a day before you'd have a rain or something like that they'd say because of the
811:  They'd be just stupid {NW}
Interviewer:  Yeah you ever hear call people a fool
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  You call folks a fool
811:  Well Yeah they if uh I tried to call you stupid or either dumb Because if I had been called stupid That means he don't know he don't want to know
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  And in front of that's a fool {NW} He just don't know But if you want to make a fellow real bad you call him stupid that'd mean he don't know he don't want to know {NW}
Interviewer:  Yeah uh a person who will never spend a cent never spends his money
811:  That man is tight He
Interviewer:  Uh what about a person who has plenty of money and hangs onto it he's a somebody who gets money and help from other people and doesn't give much or anything in return well he's a good he'll pay you good money but you'll have to earn it he's a regular
811:  He's a regular hard fellow {X} He don't to give you that
Interviewer:  Okay um when when you use the word common about a person what would that mean
811:  That mean he was just Something like everyday for others it means all he is is just you didn't Have to prepare yourself to talk to him or ask him something You always say it
Interviewer:  You'd say he's just a
811:  Just a common fellow
Interviewer:  Uh an old person about eighty say who did all this farm work and never got tired they'd say I don't care how old he is he's
811:  He's uh He's a strong old man
Interviewer:  Yeah he's somebody who was still quick did you ever have any folks in your family like that like your grandmother that could say maybe even though she was old she was still right she was still
811:  Yeah when we first started they would call us Lazy and stuff because when they'd tell us to go do something we would drag our foots and they were all Always active They tell you I'd rather go do it myself if it's going to take you that long {NW}
Interviewer:  And they'd go do it
811:  Go do it their self Or Sometimes and other times they You was glad they'd go do it because they did go do it when they come back you wish you had So that was a good worker
Interviewer:  Yeah if your children were out a little later than usual you'd feel a little
811:  Uneasy That's the word that I When they go somewhere and they aren't back on time I usually go see for them
Interviewer:  Uh now some somebody who uh who doesn't want to go upstairs in the dark you'd say they're
811:  They're Scared or either coward
Interviewer:  Yeah other words they'd say he's a
811:  He's a coward
Interviewer:  A place like a dark road or along a graveyard is a you'd say it's a
811:  A scary place
Interviewer:  Here right. A scary place uh she she isn't afraid now but she well uh let's say now somebody said I don't understand why she's afraid because she the way you say somebody used to be or now now then you'd say I don't understand why she's afraid now she
811:  She didn't used to be afraid
Interviewer:  Yeah uh now there's nothing wrong with with say somebody who lives way back out in the woods by themselves but folks would say they just act so a little
811:  A little weird {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay other words
811:  Uh wacky wacky
Interviewer:  Yeah kind of just
811:  Kind of cuckoo
Interviewer:  Just a touch they're a little bit
811:  A little bit off
Interviewer:  Queer would you ever use that
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Okay you'd say they
811:  They're they're a little bit queer
Interviewer:  Okay has the word changed its meaning for you in recent years in other words give me give me a few examples of how you'd use it
811:  Uh Run that by me again
Interviewer:  Okay how you would use it the word in other words would you ever say he is a queer to mean a person who was eccentric
811:  {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  What would it mean then
811:  Well that Kind of Come in the later years the early years he was Cuckoo or Crazy
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Something like that that was the more common word In the last eight to ten years that's when you started hearing the They would have called him Weird or queer
Interviewer:  Okay and it would mean
811:  That you Didn't have everything going {X} Well people could tell that he was kind of off a little bit He didn't have his right mind
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  That was just the people's opinion though
Interviewer:  Okay um so do you in other words it wouldn't have changed then
811:  Uh Yeah it changed I said that it recently come out
Interviewer:  Okay what would they when they used the word queer about a guy in the city what would they mean there
811:  {NW}
Interviewer:  They'd mean
811:  {NW}
Interviewer:  They'd mean he was a homosexual
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Okay all right um now somebody who makes up his mind and nobody could change him they'd say he's don't be so
811:  So hard Uh Or so {D: Disunderstanding}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm he's just a
811:  A hard-headed fellow
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
811:  He's being {X} Says {NW}
Interviewer:  He's what in his ways you'd say
811:  He's set in his ways
Interviewer:  Uh now you can't you can't joke with a person without him losing his temper
811:  He's short patient he gets mad in a hurry
Interviewer:  Uh-huh he gets awfully
811:  Awfully mad
Interviewer:  Uh I didn't know he was going to I was just kidding about him
811:  I didn't know he was going to get so mad {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh you've been working very hard you say you're very
811:  Tired
Interviewer:  You're very very tired you say you're all
811:  All wore out
Interviewer:  Okay if I'm I'm completely I'm just
811:  Completely wore out
Interviewer:  I've had come in and tell the misses say I
811:  I've had it
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm uh now somebody got overheated and chills and his eyes and his nose started running you'd say he
811:  He had chills and a fever
Interviewer:  He must have
811:  Got overheated
Interviewer:  Uh and talking about a cold you'd say they had you thought they had they must
811:  He must have got overheated and Caught a cold
Interviewer:  Caught a cold uh {X} Voice
811:  He was hoarse
Interviewer:  Okay and or like you right now you've got a bad
811:  Bad health
Interviewer:  Well in other words it gives you a bad
811:  A bad cough
Interviewer:  Does that does it give you that or
811:  Uh
Interviewer:  Medicine you take
811:  No it If I over talk I start to cough And then other times sometimes I don't be talking the doctors always tell me what it was Matter of fact I didn't ask him I have to ask him next time {X} Bad though it Happened It don't happen often
Interviewer:  Um you'd say I better go to bed I I'm feeling a little
811:  Feeling tired
Interviewer:  Or
811:  Little sleepy
Interviewer:  At six oh clock I'll
811:  I'll go to bed
Interviewer:  Well I'll go to bed now and at six I'll
811:  I'll get up
Interviewer:  Uh you might say he's still sleeping you better go
811:  Wake him up
Interviewer:  Now somebody who can't hear well you'd say they're getting a little
811:  Hard of hearing
Interviewer:  Okay or he you just got to shout at him you say
811:  {NW} He hard of hearing
Interviewer:  He's
811:  {NW}
Interviewer:  If he can hardly hear at all if he can't hear at all
811:  Well he's He's uh
Interviewer:  Say
811:  Deaf That- that's it
Interviewer:  Okay
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Deaf or {C: pronunciation}
811:  Deaf.
Interviewer:  Okay now you've been working hard you've been out in the field come in and take your shirt off and you look at it and you say look how I look how much I
811:  I sweated
Interviewer:  Out there in the sun uh folks used to get a lot of these things that would come up on your arm or something like that and they'd make a big spot lump kind of red place with a core in it that was a
811:  That was a boil
Interviewer:  Uh some of them would have just uh more than one core wouldn't they
811:  Yeah
Interviewer:  You ever get them
811:  Uh yeah I had some Boy they would hurt though
Interviewer:  And uh what would come out of them all the stuff that would drain out
811:  Uh it was pus and
Interviewer:  Yeah other names for it they called it what all
811:  Uh that uh head You had a head in there Long as you didn't get that out it would It would never kill you It'd just keep Coming back
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  If you didn't latch it and get it out then It might would go away but it'll come back about in a year And it was just something in your blood and you could uh The best thing for it was Tea leaves take them make a poison put on it
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
811:  You'll do that at night the next morning the head would right to the top either take a The skin off the hull of an egg And put on if you could stand it Because it'll draw it If you could stand it all that night and if you could stand it the next morning you could bust it {NS} Then cut the head it was ready to bust But
Interviewer:  Skin off the hull of an egg you mean the inside part
811:  Uh
Interviewer:  The egg
811:  Right against the shell you got a little skin
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Little
Interviewer:  Hard boiled
811:  Huh Yeah
Interviewer:  When the egg's been boiled
811:  Just a little bit of You'd just g- {NS} Skin it around just take it and lay it on there It'll kill it
Interviewer:  Yeah uh now if you got some infection in your hand and your hand got bigger then it
811:  It was swollen
Interviewer:  You'd say your hand did what
811:  It got infected and swole up
Interviewer:  Swole up huh now when you get what's the best time to open a blister when you had a blister on your hand say when you'd been out hoeing or out in the field
811:  Uh when you would get home cause if you were to open it out in the field it would get infected
Interviewer:  Get all
811:  Get all Full of dirt and stuff and it would get infected
Interviewer:  Yeah you would drain all the what
811:  All the water out of the blood whatever it was
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  A water blister either or a blood blister
Interviewer:  Now in a war somebody got shot the bullet made a
811:  Made a hole
Interviewer:  Yeah and have to go back and have a doctor
811:  Uh see about it uh Get a look at it and Take the bullet out if it was in there Clean it up
Interviewer:  Clean up the
811:  The wound
Interviewer:  Did uh when you uh say a wound didn't heal clean uh this kind of white granular substance would come uh and form around the edge you know and it would grow up and sometimes it would have to be cut out or burned out with aloe what was that
811:  Uh Uh
Interviewer:  Okay you know of any flesh around that would grow around the wound
811:  Uh it was what you call a scab
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  That would grow {NW}
Interviewer:  You ever hear of proud flesh
811:  {NS} Uh no
Interviewer:  Um when you got a little cut on your finger what would you put on that
811:  Oh {NW} You had peroxide iodine {NS} Uh And what you called monkey blood
Interviewer:  #1 Monkey blood that was #
811:  #2 Yeah #
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Uh {NS}
Interviewer:  When uh when did you ever get malaria what would they give for that
811:  {NW} I don't know {NW} Uh I never did have it {NS} But I heard uh Some people having it but I never knew what they would {NS} Would give for it {NS}
Interviewer:  Okay
811:  Uh-huh A what No {NS}
Interviewer:  Some tonic uh qui-
811:  Uh uh Quinine
Interviewer:  Yeah
811:  Yeah that's what it was quinine
Interviewer:  A lot of times when you were younger people would would say die and they didn't know what they
811:  What they died of or {NS} Course your doctors were so far from {NS} And they {NS} You had malaria or something Or either T-B They would just uh quarantine you if you didn't want to go to the doctor They just They don't want nobody in your house and if you died A T-B death burn all the Clothes and stuff The bed clothes {NW} Everything that person was on
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
811:  They have to burn it {NS}
Interviewer:  What uh did they say oh she's been living all alone ever since her husband
811:  Since her husband died
Interviewer:  Okay other ways you'd say he
811:  He passed away
Interviewer:  Okay or you might say boy I {NS}