811: {NS} {C: silence} They laid him away in the {X} they made pine boxes and just put you. Interviewer: What did they call 'em? 811: Uh iron boxes and {NS} well they call that uh they buried them in a pine box. {NS} Interviewer: So and that was a what that was a? 811: A funeral. Interviewer: {NS} The place where they buried. 811: Oh. In a graveyard. Interviewer: Yep. 811: Uh sometimes they didn't have no graveyard cuz it's taken. Take you to a place in the woods somewhere. Interviewer: The box that you're buried in they call a. 811: There was a coffin. Interviewer: Okay. {X} The pine box should y- that would be did you ever see the ones that were wide at the shoulders? They were thin at the #1 feet. # 811: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: And they were called. 811: Um Interviewer: You know what a sharpshooter was? 811: Yeah. {NW} {C: cough} Uh I don't really know the name of those are We knew it was coffins. Interviewer: Uh the people who are dressed in black. 811: That was the Interviewer: You say they're in. 811: They in mourning. Interviewer: Uh when people got really worked up over death in the family if the women lost control of themselves we'd say they were. 811: Hysterical. Interviewer: {NS} Uh {NS} now what about some other diseases that you knew that people would die of? When you were younger. 811: Um. Interviewer: What would they get sick with? Could y- did they ever get that disease of the throat? Children would get in their throat and they would choke in the night. 811: I think a bunch of kids died with asthma and I had it bad. Interviewer: You did? 811: And so I got treated cuz I bout to died two or three times with it. And uh you would just get the cough and if were hot and that's the only thing they didn't have no cure for it. Or nothing to cut it uh {C: background banging noises}. And uh they would treat you for it and after you would go some i- i- it would pass. And you had uh {NW} {C: cough} {NS} {C: banging noises} the bad bad sore throat {NS} {C: clang noise} and you had quite a bit of lot of T-B was tuberculosis that's what it was. quite a few people would die with that. Interviewer: Uh did that did uh that disease that children would die with they would choke {C: background noise} dip-. 811: Uh dip- uh diphtheria. Interviewer: Okay. And uh the disease that would make a person's eyes turn yellow 811: Uh yellow jaundice. Interviewer: Okay. When you got a pain down there on your side. 811: Uh that was your appendix. you mostly found it in the side. Interviewer: Uh that was what the str-? 811: Uh y- your appendix. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 811: Yeah your appendix was bad or you might bust or {NS} {C: crash} Interviewer: You didn't have a case of. 811: Of uh your appendix was gone bad. Interviewer: In the side? 811: Yeah. Interviewer: Um th- they used to not know what that was didn't they? 811: A way back we didn't have too too much of it. The doctor didn't know what it was. Interviewer: What'd they call it? 811: I don't remember what they would call it. Interviewer: Uh now you ate something that didn't agree with you and they come up you say you. 811: You had indigestion or vomit. They just throw up. Interviewer: Uh {NS} {C: clang noise} okay. Wh- what's the crude term? #1 Which is- # 811: #2 Uh puke. {NW} {C: laugh} # {NW} {C: coughs} Interviewer: If a person vomited he was sick. 811: Of the stomach. Interviewer: Say uh I'm feeling a little. 811: Little sick of the stomach. Interviewer: Uh {NS} {C: noise} now there was a terrible accident up the road and but there was no need to call a doctor because the victims were. 811: Was dead. Interviewer: By the time he got there {X}. Uh now if you invited somebody to come and see you say this evening an- and you wanted to tell him you'd be disappointed if he didn't come up come you'd say now if you don't come I'll b- I. 811: I'd be disappointed. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} O- or you might say anytime you can come over will be. 811: Right fine with me. I'd be expecting you. Interviewer: We say if you can come over. 811: Uh we'd be waiting for you. Interviewer: I'll b- uh. 811: I'll be {NW} {C: clears throat} Interviewer: Be what be? 811: Be glad if you could. Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever say proud? 811: Yeah. Interviewer: How does that mean? 811: Well I'm gl- be proud that that she could come over. Interviewer: Mean the same thing as 811: Yeah it's glad. Interviewer: Okay. Now a boy kept going over to the same girl's house you'd say he's. 811: In love. Interviewer: He's uh. 811: He's falling in love with that girl he's about to get {X}. {C: laughs while speaking} Interviewer: So you w- you'd go over to your wife's house a lot before you were married you'd say you were. 811: In love. Interviewer: Okay. What if a boy was beginning to pay serious attention to a girl you'd say he's. 811: He's getting {X}. Interviewer: He's uh the older word. #1 You know let's say when you- # 811: #2 You start liking her. # Interviewer: Okay. Othe- other ways of saying it? U- uh what about i- if if he wasn't real serious they'd say he just 811: Just trying. Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: laughs} # 811: #2 {NW} {C: laughs then coughs} # Interviewer: Okay. Now a girl was {NW} {C: laughs} was spending a lot of time getting ready to go to a party you'd say she was {NS} she was doing what? 811: Making herself pretty. Interviewer: She's still outside {X} in front of a mirror. {C: yawns while speaking} 811: Dressing up. Interviewer: Okay now you were getting ready to go somewhere and you'd spend a lot of time. 811: No just dressing up. Interviewer: A woman would carry a. 811: A purse. Interviewer: And she's rather rich she'd wear. 811: Uh a watch. Or either uh a bracelet. Interviewer: Suppose there were a lot of little things strung together used to go around your neck as an ornament. What would you call these? 811: Uh beads or either a necklace. Interviewer: Um what would a man wear to hold up his trousers? 811: Suspenders. Interviewer: Uh now y- you put a lot of things in your pocket since we've said that made 'em. 811: Made 'em {X} {X}. Interviewer: Okay you said {X}. that. 811: Speak out? Interviewer: Okay. Now every time you wash a cotton shirt in hot water it 811: It would sh- shrink. Interviewer: Okay you say the one I washed yesterday. 811: It shrunk. Interviewer: Shrunk up. {X} #1 {X} # 811: #2 {X} # It shrank. {NW} {C: cough} Interviewer: It's done what it's. 811: It shrunk up. Interviewer: It shrunk up. Uh. Well you know getting back to you know to the party and everything you'd be going to or something like that uh a girl would be leaving an- and a boy would say can I. 811: Can I walk you home or. Interviewer: Okay. Um now a girl was was putting on her best dress and everything like that her little brother would say you're fixing up for your. 811: For your boyfriend. Interviewer: Uh other names? 811: Uh. Interviewer: He's going to see his wh- his what. Main. 811: Main girl. Interviewer: Main girl? Would you use something like that? 811: Well that was later that- Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. Wha- what would y'all say? 811: Girl. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 811: #2 Yes. # Interviewer: Now you come home with with lipstick on your shirt and your brother would say you've been. 811: {NW} {C: laugh} You've been necking {NW} {C: coughs} Interviewer: Uh when a girl stops letting a boy come over to see her she. 811: She's not interested in the other boy. Interviewer: And what'd she do with him? She. 811: Put him down. {C: laughs at end} Interviewer: Okay. The boy if he asks her to marry him but she. 811: Turned him down. {C: laughs while speaking} Interviewer: Okay. other way of saying that boy uh he hadn't been the same since she. 811: Since she jilted him. Interviewer: Jilted him {NW} {C: starts laughing}. Wrote him off. 811: That oh well he's walking people. Interviewer: {NW} {C: laughs} Uh but sh- they went ahead and got. You might say they went ahead and got. 811: Married. Interviewer: What other way of saying that you'd say they got? 811: Got hitched up. Uh uh broke the neck. Interviewer: Broke the neck? What does that mean? 811: That means marriage. Interviewer: Does it? 811: Yeah. Interviewer: You know where it came from? 811: I don't know where it came from you use it when uh well now uh some of the young fellas get married we start to tease him. Interviewer: Jump the broomstick? 811: Yeah. {NW} {C: coughs} Interviewer: Uh {X} {X} #1 {X} # 811: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Uh after a wedding what would you have? Maybe some kind of noisy. 811: A reception. Interviewer: Yeah but uh. 811: That party. Interviewer: Um did you ever hear them having these kind of noisy things after a wedding where they just all get yelling and come around and fire pistols off or even dynamite or something around the house? 811: Mm-mm. Interviewer: Did you ever hear {X} or a okay. What did you know what a shivaree was? 811: Mm-mm. Interviewer: You never heard of a shivaree? Okay. 811: I heard the French men talking about a {X} {C: French word}. Interviewer: What was that? 811: Well that's when a man and his wife would separate. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: And they would get back together all the neighborhood go {X} {X} and throw a big party {NW} {C: coughs at the end} Interviewer: Okay what was that? A what? 811: A {X} {C: French word}. I don't know what the word means {X}. Interviewer: Yeah. Did your wife know any French or- 811: Mm I I doubt they talk French good. you know not what you'd call a real Frenchman. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: And uh her mom understands it good but she don't talk it. Interviewer: Oh. Her father's a. 811: Well. Interviewer: {X} right in the area or. 811: He was but he's uh disabled now. He's um he farmed all his days. Interviewer: Oh. When w- w- when somebody was what about if a widow got married or something like that again would th- that was a {X}? 811: No. they said they would the man and his wife would separate and some boy would go talk and get 'em back together or either the fellas would go {D: record again.} {NW} {C: cough} Interviewer: Okay. Uh what w- would you ever you ever call the incidents where folks would get together and and some trouble would be caused or something like that we mentioned you know uh would they ever have would they ever have any sort of community thing when they would just getting toss somebody out of the community when they didn't like 'em or something like that? 811: Well when we was first coming up that happened on more than one time the police that we had here {X} they had some friends that had cotton or something in the field. And {X} in the morning and make the blacks get out and go pick. They didn't care what the price was if you didn't wanna pick cotton you had to leave out of town. And that's when we had uh {X} they uh the police went down there if they didn't like somebody. {NW} {C: cough} I seen them beat people around there they beat bloody bloody. {X} or they couldn't come back to town maybe for a month or so. Interviewer: What was the bazaar? 811: What? Interviewer: Bazaar. 811: That was something like a community thing where we would get together they would have barbecue {X} and we still have it once a year. Interviewer: That's a what? 811: Uh that'd be a bazaar. Interviewer: {X} 811: Uh-huh. And uh the church sponsored it. Uh and everybody they would raise money for the church. Interviewer: Uh w- did you ever remember uh uh any sort of political situations where they would just toss they would some folks would get together and run people out of the community or if somebody had taken an unpopular political stance? 811: They had uh they didn't run 'em out of town but they made it hard for 'em. {X}. They had uh {NW} {C: coughs} {X} {X} he's the only big man. And uh when uh it was election time Lord the old people was voting he would tell 'em I wanna elect this man. I want you to vote for him. That went fine until the younger people got ready to vote. When they uh passed a law where they could vote. but if they vote they had somebody there watching them And they would vote the other way. He called uh {X} cuz almost everybody was living on his property. He'd tell you well your boy or your girl voted against me I don't want him on my place. They gonna have to find him a place to stay. Or he would get mad That that was with the black and white. It didn't make it no different. {NW} {C: coughs} But I believe that's what kinda killed him. He uh when uh put out a bunch of money for the election and h- he figured the blacks was gonna go against him and so he was watching the poll in the black community. And he was paying money to the the white community. But they took the money and voted for the other man they beat him until he done for. And that man took sick a- and he died. He could never get away uh after that. And oh they say politics is a sure thing. But if you wanna this day and age if you wanna do politics you gotta get tangled up in politics that's what it is. {X} {NW} {C: cough} {X} or not. They had a fella running for office when he run he gonna come out there and shake everybody's hand pat you on the back but after that man get in office you can't talk to him. He don't know you. And I find if uh You got a big put a big fella in the community you go to him and say well you wanna {NW {C: cough} us to support that man we gonna go along with you and if something happens you can go talk to him we can't. Or either you can bring us to talk to him. And that's about the only way. Cuz if each one go by himself he'd never all that time you'd get in trouble or where you can't get out you need a politician to to help you out. Or you if you need a job or something for your son or something politician he know what strings to pull. Interviewer: {NS} {C: background crash} Uh there might be trouble at a place and the police would come and arrest the. 811: {NS} {C: noise} Arrest the one that's disturbing the peace. Interviewer: #1 Or they might arrest. # 811: #2 The whole {X}. # The whole crowd of Interviewer: yeah. Uh. {NS} {C: background crash} Now wh- what sort of things would bring people together when you were younger? 811: Well on Saturday night they'd gather up a good bit, they had a fireplace nightclub and stuff but. {NW} {C: cough} There is a big crowd was about once a year. to that uh bazaar I was thinking about. That was the bring a big crowd. Interviewer: W- Would young people ever go out in the evening and move around the floor and have a? 811: Yeah I'd go out dancing. Uh. #1 They- # Interviewer: #2 {D: You only have one} any different kinds of them? # 811: Uh yeah uh they used to have holler dancing which you call uh la-las. {C: La-las is also known as Zydeco, a famous music genre in Louisiana, especially with French Creoles) Uh French dances. Uh Strange house uh like say for instance one side they one family would make a a house dancing {D: cost you something like} {X} And the older people would play cards. And they'd bring their daughters and sons there. Uh people would play {D: strip poker}. And draw poker. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: They start playing bourre lately there uh well the bourre game come much not not too long ago Um that's about fifteen years ago maybe a little. Interviewer: Uh okay. A la-la was a what? 811: Uh a French dance. They'd play accordion and a rubbing board. Interviewer: That was a type of dance? 811: No that that's what they would play. Uh there was a French dance that just had accordion one fella playing the accordion the other rubbing the rubbing board. Interviewer: Okay. Any other kind of dances? 811: #1 No that was. # Interviewer: #2 Did you know what a fais do-do was? # #1 Fais do-do. # 811: #2 I heard talk of it but uh. # Interviewer: Uh {NW} {C: noise} now um when you went into town tell me about the first time you ever went to you ever been to any big places or? What was i- wha- what were some of th- your memories of the first time you ever went into? 811: The first time over. {NW} {C: cough} Interviewer: {X}. 811: {NW} {C: grunt}. Well that been not too long {X} that's been about twenty years ago. I remember the first time I went to Houston. I had never seen so many people in cars. {X} and th- it was funny when we went there we had we was in a truck and had to lock the truck up {X} just leave our stuff wide open. Interviewer: Yeah 811: How the people would steal and everything all that. Interviewer: Yeah. Now a building for books is called a 811: Uh a bookcase. Interviewer: Well #1 you have a place in town where you- # 811: #2 Oh a library. # Interviewer: Uh well and you'd mail a package at a. 811: Post office. Interviewer: Wh- when you went to Houston where did you stay? 811: Uh well what happened we just uh we didn't we went {D: had a} load of sweet potatoes I just went on the truck. And uh we got there about {X} {C: muttering noise of someone in background} twelve o'clock that night. And we left about ten o'clock that morning. Interviewer: Now the first time you ever went to Church Point when you didn't have a horse {C: Church Point is a town in Louisiana} you had to buy groceries and you how'd you get 'em home you? 811: Uh {C: background muttering by someone} I had a sack I could tote 'em back. Interviewer: Uh well now when you go in a strange town you stay where overnight? 811: In a motel. Interviewer: #1 Or- # 811: #2 A hotel. # Interviewer: Um {NS} {C: crashing noise} now the woman who would look after you in a hospital was a. 811: A nurse. Interviewer: Okay and you catch a train where? 811: At the depot. Interviewer: The rail do you call that the rail? 811: A railroad station. Interviewer: Y- you ever you ever been to a bus? 811: Station. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 811: Yeah I rode the bus a whole lotta times. Interviewer: Okay. In around uh in around off {X} there's a- around the courthouse there's a big kinda shady place. 811: Uh called the courthouse square. Interviewer: Uh when two streets cross and a man started out walking across those two those two streets say uh well they were like they were going like this. Uh and you needed to get from a corner of one street and cross to the corner of the other. Instead of going that way you'd go you might go they'd say you went 811: Well Crossways? Interviewer: Crossways or #1 talking about corners you'd say- # 811: #2 Oh uh. # Catty corner. Interviewer: Uh okay. And if there was a vacant lot say at a corner instead of walking around the lot you'd say you walked. 811: Across it. Interviewer: Okay. {X} {C: someone muttering in background} um {C: background muttering continues} when you first found did you ever go to New Orleans? 811: Yeah. Quite a few times. Interviewer: Okay now they have #1 now they have buses but they u- not too long ago they had what? # 811: #2 The streetcars. # Interviewer: And you could ride on 'em. You tell the bus driver uh next corner is where I 811: I wanna get out. You had a cord to pull. Interviewer: Okay. Uh now of this parish uh Crowley is the. {C: Crowley is a town in Louisiana} 811: Acadia Parish? Interviewer: Yeah. Crowley is the? 811: U- uh {NW} {C: grunt} Interviewer: Call it the what. The place where they do all of the #1 the # 811: #2 All the uh # All the government work is the uh {X}. Well that's where the courthouse located for Acadia Parish. #1 {NW} {C: cough} # Interviewer: #2 What about the # the parish. {C: dishes clinking and muttering in background} Okay. Um {C: background noise} That's where all the the. 811: Uh the uh Interviewer: The go- 811: The government books and uh the clerk of court. Interviewer: Okay. Now a person who's running for political office they say he wants people to get tougher on our on what? You know the law. 811: Oh. Uh make a law. Tougher on the law strict. Interviewer: And talking about order too he'd say I want #1 we need more- # 811: #2 More order and law. # Interviewer: Or law. 811: Yeah. Interviewer: Or law. 811: Uh in this community. Interviewer: We need more law. Law and order? 811: Law and order. Interviewer: Um now the war they fought that was fought here about a hundred years ago between the 811: The Interviewer: #1 North and the South is called. # 811: #2 Oh yeah. The Civil War. # Interviewer: Uh what are some of the states that fought it? 811: Um. Interviewer: Around here do you know? 811: They fought in Baton Rouge the state uh state capital over there. They fought and uh {X}. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: And uh Interviewer: Can you close that? 811: Mm-hmm. {X}. {X}. Interviewer: Uh {NS} {C: knocking noise} other places that you you know that you of or in the South other states? 811: {NW} {C: sigh}. Interviewer: Like I'm from. 811: From Georgia, Alabama Mississippi. Interviewer: Alright in Alabama what are some of the cities there? 811: Um {NS} Interviewer: You know the one in {X}? 811: The. Interviewer: Hank Aaron is from they call it. #1 Okay- # 811: #2 Atlan- # Atlanta #1 uh # Interviewer: #2 that's Georgia. # 811: Yeah and uh Interviewer: Know any any other cities in Georgia? 811: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay. 811: {X}? Interviewer: Okay. 811: {NW} {C: cough}. Interviewer: The state where they grow oranges is? 811: Uh Florida. Interviewer: Uh {NW} {C: cough} Now Richmond is in? 811: Virginia. Interviewer: Okay. And then you got uh th- the what's the capital of the nation? 811: Uh Washington DC. Interviewer: Okay and it's right near another big city in Maryland. 811: Uh yeah. Baltimore, Maryland. Interviewer: Uh {X} {C: someone muttering in background} Nation is. 811: Texas. Interviewer: Well the biggest in terms of population. The the biggest city in the nation is in what state? You know the city that had all the problems a year or two ago? 811: Oh New York. Interviewer: It's in what state? 811: Uh New York. Interviewer: New York. 811: City. Interviewer: In what New York. New York state. 811: Yeah. New York state. Interviewer: Okay. Uh before they had electric chair murderers were 811: Uh they were shot. Interviewer: Or they were. 811: H- hung. Interviewer: Hung yeah. 811: On the uh didn't they have that that guillotine though? Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah uh yeah I've heard of that now we don't have that here. But you say a man that commits suicide you went out and {C: cough in background} 811: Hung himself. Interviewer: Uh. Now Raleigh is the capital of what state? Well you know the states above Georgia? Got a lot of mountains and we got North North 811: Uh Virginia Norfolk? Interviewer: Uh okay you got South what? Georgia Alabama South 811: Carolina. Interviewer: Okay you say what? One of those two states up there North 811: North Virginia and uh Interviewer: North Carolina? You got you ever heard of that you ever been there? 811: No {C: laughs}. Interviewer: Okay No- North Carolina or 811: The further I've been is the state of Texas that was Houston. out of the state of Louisiana. Interviewer: Okay and north of here is what state? 811: Uh. Interviewer: What are some of the states north of here? 811: Uh let's see north would be uh Oklahoma. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: #1 Uh. # Interviewer: #2 Little Rock is? # 811: Yeah Little Rock. Interviewer: What state? 811: Arkansas. Interviewer: Alright. Now the Volunteer State is what? U- Up the river from here you got what cities? You go up above Vicksburg and you got? 811: Mississippi. #1 Mississippi. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # You know th- the town up the river that had {X}? Memph- the 811: Memphis, Tennessee. Interviewer: Yeah okay. You know any other cities in Tennessee? 811: No I talked to uh a bunch of truck drivers that go through there and come back and and tell me about it what kind of country they is in. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: And they got one for Interviewer: Where do they got that good old music? 811: Uh Nashville. Tennessee. And uh they offered to take me they go to Detroit and uh. Interviewer: The city on the river up there shoo. 811: Yeah they go up there and pick up uh liquor to the Canadian border and he offered me to go two or three times but it like I said with all the work and no play we I just didn't get a chance to go cuz it take them a week to go up there the only time all I had time to go is during the winter. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: And sometimes you get snowed in up there you can't come back maybe for two weeks. And two weeks without working not {NW} {C: scoff} wouldn't a did too good So I just know maybe now since I might get a chance to travel a little bit like that. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay now Boston is in 811: Massachusetts. Interviewer: They call the states up there from Maine to Connecticut the? The new what the new New E- 811: New England states? Interviewer: Okay. Um now the Bluegrass State is what? 811: Uh Kentucky. Interviewer: Where do they run the derby up there? 811: Uh tu- Kentucky the Interviewer: They run it in you know the town Lou- 811: U-uh. Interviewer: Loui- 811: Louisville Kentucky. Interviewer: Alright. Uh {NW} {C: cough} okay. {X} any well now the state up above Arkansas is what? Saint. 811: Uh Saint Louis? Interviewer: Yeah that's in Saint Louis uh 811: Uh. Interviewer: {X}. 811: Missouri. Interviewer: Okay. Uh do you know any of the towns in in Alabama? Where they make a lot of steel? 811: Mm. Interviewer: Bir- 811: Birmingham Alabama. Interviewer: Okay. Um the choo choo from Chatta- 811: From Chattanooga Tennessee? Interviewer: Right. Okay. Um and then there's a city up in Illinois. You know that big one up there? {D: Called butcher} of the world? Uh where they used to ship all the cattle out for {X}. 811: Uh Chicago, Illinois. Interviewer: Yeah that's what okay. Th- the Reds play baseball in. 811: in Cincinnati, Ohio. Interviewer: Okay. Uh from here to Crowley is about what is about? 811: Let's see. Take about twenty miles. Interviewer: Um {NW} {C: sniff} now if somebody asks you to go with them to Crowley you'd say you're not sure you wanna go you'd say I don't know I don't know 811: Uh. I don't know I don't feel like going. Either I got some other commitments to do right now. Interviewer: Yeah. And I'm not sure that I'm not sure. 811: That I can go. Interviewer: Uh well call me tomorrow I 811: I'll be able to tell you for sure then if I what I can do or not. Interviewer: Okay. Somebody asks you to do something for 'em and you might you'd say uh I {NS} {C: crash} I think I can or I might uh say uh I'm not sure but I. 811: I'll try. Interviewer: I'll try or I might. 811: Might be able to do it. Interviewer: Call me tomorrow I might could 811: Could tell you for sure whether I can do it or not. Interviewer: You'd say what? 811: Wha- {NW} {C: cough} call me tomorrow and I can tell you for sure whether I can do it or not. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if you want somebody to go with you you'd say I won't go 811: I won't go at all unless somebody come with me. Interviewer: Uh if you were asked to go somewhere without your wife you'd say I won't go 811: Without my wife. Interviewer: Okay uh uh I won't go. 811: {X} my wife can go too. Interviewer: Okay. Now y- your son was could've been helping you do something and you'd say she went off he went off playing. 811: Playing. Interviewer: He could've helped me he went off playing. 811: Playing ball. Interviewer: Played ball. 811: If he didn't help me. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: {NW} {C: coughs} Interviewer: So y- you might he went off playing ball and he might 811: Might've been here helping me. Interviewer: Okay. Uh y- you come back and y- y- you'd say to him uh when he came back you'd say well you might 811: You might've stayed here and helped me instead of running out and going to play ball. Interviewer: Uh. um a man was funny and you like him you'd say they ask you why you like him you'd say I like him. 811: Cuz he's a nice fella. Interviewer: #1 {X} I like him. # 811: #2 Cuz h- # Cuz he's nice. Interviewer: Uh. {NS} {C: background crackling and faint buzz} Now if you have uh {NS} {C: background crackling and faint buzz} now another big church in the South that uh some people folks might join around here would be what? {D: You and I were} Methodist but other folks might be 811: Might be Catholic or Baptist uh Interviewer: Okay. If two people became members you say they 811: They joined. Interviewer: Okay. You worship 811: Worship God. Interviewer: Some folks don't believe in Uh the preacher delivers a. 811: A sermon. Interviewer: Uh and you'd say oh that music was 811: So sweet. Interviewer: It was just just beau- 811: Beautiful. Interviewer: Uh now you had to change a flat tire on the way to church one Sunday morning you'd say church will be over. 811: By the time I I get there. Interviewer: Uh the when when people didn't behave like when you were a child and you didn't behave your mother might tell you that somebody was gonna get you. Who was he? 811: That was my fault {C: laughs while speaking}. Interviewer: Okay or they'd say if you were out late at night this guy was gonna get you he was the. 811: That was the policeman. Interviewer: Okay or maybe this fella had hooves and #1 horns and a tail and a pitchfork. # 811: #2 Oh. # The devil {C: laughs while speaking}. Interviewer: Okay. Other names they'd tell you was a uh nicknames for the devil? 811: {X} or {C: laughs after speaking} Interviewer: {X}? The old what the old. 811: The old devil. Interviewer: The boo- was there anything about the booger man? 811: Oh yeah. The old booger man. {NW} {C: hiccup noise} Interviewer: Now what was is that you would that folks would think they would see around a graveyard? 811: Uh ghosts. Interviewer: #1 Other names? # 811: #2 Uh spirits. # Interviewer: Or and all sorts of they'd say she's ugly as an old. 811: Old witch. Interviewer: And the house was they'd say it might be. #1 Th- they'd say house way back out in the distance. # 811: #2 Uh. # It was haunted. Interviewer: Y- they'd try to get you to go to that and you'd say. No I 811: I ain't going into that haunted house. Interviewer: Yeah. Uh I'll go if you insist but I'd rather not. 811: I'd rather not go. Interviewer: Yeah. Uh or {C: background noise} putting these somebody tell you to put on a coat or better put on a sweater it's getting. 811: Getting cool th- cold outside. {NW} {C: cough} Getting cold. Interviewer: How cold it's getting r-. 811: Getting rough? {C: background noise} Interviewer: Okay. {C: background noise} Say it's not it's {C: someone talking in background} it's {C: someone continues to talk} 811: Getting rough out there. Interviewer: Okay. {C: someone continues to talk} It's not just cold it's. 811: It's rough. Interviewer: Okay or uh it's uh it wasn't just a little cold this morning it was. 811: {X} {C: loud talking in background} Interviewer: Okay. {C: loud talking continues} Uh or if somebody intensely disliked going somewhere you'd say he he just. 811: He just don't wanna go {C: talking in background} Interviewer: Okay. So I dare you to go to a place at night and you'd say I'd you you say you'd you'd what? He dared you to do it and you say I'd 811: I ain't gonna do it. Interviewer: Or I dare uh you know talking about daring somebody to do something we figured if you'd {C: talking in background} 811: I- I ain't gonna take a dare I'll go. Interviewer: Okay. 811: Usually {X} anybody think their daddy's a thief. {NW} {C: laughs} {X}. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: {X}. Interviewer: If they didn't dare do it you'd say they. 811: They're against us. Coward. You know, either they was a thief if they didn't do it. Interviewer: It's because they 811: Because they wouldn't do it. Interviewer: They dare. 811: They dare they kept the dare. Interviewer: Okay somebody who wouldn't took the dare you say they d- 811: That he he did it. Interviewer: If he wouldn't do it you'd say you he. 811: I dare. Interviewer: Dare not or {X}. 811: {X}. Interviewer: well you know okay a person that you dared to do something he was a what? A thief? 811: If you didn't do it. That was if you every boy think their daddy's a thief. So that meant if you didn't do it you was a thief and they said if you did it you wouldn't. Interviewer: You wouldn't. 811: You weren't no thief. Interviewer: Okay. Um now your mother cooks something that you like a lot and you'd tell her it's good or emphasize it and you'd say Ma that was 811: Real good. Interviewer: Real good. Uh you you were hammered and nailed you took a nail and you did what you put an 811: #1 Between your fingers? # Interviewer: #2 Took the hammer and # 811: Nailed it in. Interviewer: Okay you hit your foot you hit your finger with a hammer and you said 811: I missed the nail. {C: laughs while speaking} Interviewer: Okay. #1 Uh that's what you'd say {C: laughs while speaking}? # 811: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: Okay. Um now when you met somebody wh- by way of greeting 'em what do you say to 'em? 811: Uh {X} Interviewer: Pass 'em on the street. 811: Good morning good afternoon whatever. Interviewer: Uh a friend might say good morning to you what might you ask him in return? 811: How do you do. Interviewer: Okay. Uh now when you're introduced to a stranger what do you say to him? 811: Uh usually shake hands and tell him my name. Interviewer: Say how. 811: How you doing. My name is so and so. Interviewer: Okay. You've enjoyed somebody's visit and you say a bunch of people leaving your house and you would say. 811: We really enjoyed your company come be sure and come back again, bye. Interviewer: Okay. what do you say to somebody when you meet 'em around Christmas? 811: Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Interviewer: Okay. and by way of appreciation besides thank you you might say I'm much thank you I'm much what to you I'm much. Well a person that didn't wanna accept anything from anybody because they're too proud they'd say they didn't didn't wanna be. You know a man who didn't want didn't want other people to come help him work they'd say he was 811: A proud man. Interviewer: Because he didn't wanna be what didn't wanna be? 811: Didn't wanna didn't wanna accept help. Or he'd gotten hit. Interviewer: Talking about the state of of what he didn't wanna be to other people you'd say he didn't wanna be {NS} 811: He didn't wanna be in uh pitied by Interviewer: Okay. 811: #1 By- yeah. # Interviewer: #2 He didn't wanna owe 'em anything. # They'd say he didn't wanna be 811: He didn't wanna be indebted to anybody else. Interviewer: Alright. Now you might say I'm much uh now you made a purchase the storekeeper took a paper piece of paper and he he did what he took the purchase put it in there and 811: Wrapped it up. Interviewer: You got home and. 811: Un- I unwrapped it. Interviewer: When when a storekeeper had to sell something for two dollars that he paid two fifty for he'd be selling. 811: Uh below his cost. Interviewer: Okay he was taking what 811: He was taking a a beating. #1 {NW} Or he done lost {C: laughs}. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: laughs} # Okay {C: laughs after speaking}. Um now it's time to pay the bill you say the bill is 811: Is due. Interviewer: Do you ever go into any clubs? Or anything like that? 811: Uh yeah but I do some so- societies. Interviewer: You had to pay your. 811: My dues. Interviewer: Okay. You didn't didn't have money you'd try to go to the neighbor and. 811: And borrow some. Interviewer: And the neighbor would say mm-mm money's {C: negative mm-mm and 811 laughs in background} 811: Money's short {X} Interviewer: And th- during the Depression when you were a kid money was. 811: Money was awful short then. Money was hard to come by. Interviewer: Uh you were talking about the {X} you'd say it's about as {C: loud background noise} Money was 811: As short as chicken feet {C: laughs after speaking}. Interviewer: {X} 811: The scarcest is the chicken's feet and then the- Interviewer: Yeah. Now we were talking about the things that you would do when you were a kid uh you say you ran down the springboard and something around a lake that you could 811: Oh a uh diving board? Interviewer: Yeah. You say you ran up to the end of the diving board and 811: Dove into the water. Interviewer: Dove into the water. Um when you dive- dove in and hit {NS} the water like that you say you did a {C: clap of hands}. 811: Uh a belly bust. Interviewer: Yeah. Or you might turn a what in the air turn. 811: Uh you might cut a flip. Interviewer: Okay. when when kids are out in the grass they might be turning what in the grass? Turning a som-. Som- uh you know they'd be going ov- head over heels. 811: Oh they're cutting flips. Interviewer: Turning a. 811: Uh somersault. Interviewer: In the ground. Um now a child wanted to get across the river so he he went right to the side and he dove in and he. 811: Swam swam to the other side. Interviewer: Swam across. Um now you saw something up a tree if you wanted to take a better look at it you went over to the tree and. 811: And looked up in the tree? Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 811: #2 Or either climbed up and. # Interviewer: Okay. Um now a little child is saying his prayers he walks over to the side of his bed and and did what he g- he 811: Got on his knees. Interviewer: We say he kn-. 811: He kneeled down. Interviewer: Kneeled down. Uh {C: background noise} now {C: background noise} talking about something you saw in your sleep you'd say often when I go to sleep I. 811: I dreamt. Interviewer: But when I wake up I can't remember what I. 811: I dreamt. Interviewer: Or I dreamed I was falling and all of a sudden before I hit the ground I. 811: I woke up. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. You ever had that happen to you? # 811: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: Okay. {C: loud background noise} Now one of your child children might be coming in the in the house and they would be {NS} {C: noise effect, stomps on ground} you'd say they were. 811: Stomping their feet. Interviewer: Stomping their feet. Or a child might be getting near the stove and you'd say now that stove's hot so. 811: Don't touch it. Interviewer: Yeah. Don't you. 811: Put your hands there. Interviewer: Okay. You're out and working in the yard and you'd say Joe you'd say run you need a hammer you'd say Joe run. 811: Catch me that hammer. Interviewer: Okay. Uh you were you were talking with a friend and you'd say let's meet in town uh if I get there first I'll. 811: I'll wait for you. Interviewer: Uh okay. Now somebody didn't know what was going on but they but th- but you'd say they. So he didn't know what was going on but he sure he wanted everybody to think he did so he he what he. Okay and he made you'd say he made out like. 811: Made out like he knew. {C: loud background noise} Interviewer: Uh {NW} {C: clears throat} whe- back in the old days how'd y'all keep in touch with people? You. 811: Oh. Interviewer: You would sit down and 811: Yeah you would write but it was so very {X}. You would. Interviewer: You know. 811: Most of the time wh- uh when you wouldn't see him is when they had death or something in the family. With the most of the time th- the family would really uh communicate together but otherwise it. Interviewer: You never. 811: You never hardly see them or kept in touch. Interviewer: #1 Okay and you never wr- often. # Interviewer: #2 I wrote. # Okay when you were r- when you write somebody you expect a 811: Uh a answer. Interviewer: Okay. But they but they hadn't known your 811: Your address. Interviewer: Okay. When you when you put the letter in the envelope and then you take your pen and. 811: You address it. Interviewer: Uh okay. Now a little a child has learned a bad word or something new and and you'd say now who. 811: Who taught that to you? {D: fades off into laughter} Interviewer: Who taught you that stuff? Something um if you wanted a bouquet for the dinner table your wife would go out and? 811: And uh clip one off the. Interviewer: Okay. Uh something that a child might play with would be a would be a what? Say. 811: Uh a wagon or a bicycle. Interviewer: A little thing you call a. 811: A doll. Interviewer: Play play with and be a play 811: A play toy. Interviewer: Okay. Now you sign your name with a writing {C: clashing in background}. 811: With a pen. Interviewer: Okay or. 811: A pencil. Interviewer: Okay or something that a child might you might uh put in the child's diaper it'd be a safe 811: Uh a safety pin. Interviewer: Okay. Um now you say I I got scared once and well I got thrown once on a from a horse and I've been scared of horses ever. 811: Ever since. Interviewer: Yeah. Um {C: background scraping noise} now somebody asks you uh how long that that body's been down there you'd say well as far as I know it's 811: It's been there always. Interviewer: Yeah {NW} {C: laughs}. Or okay um. Now let's see Talking about the the corn about this time of year you'd say the corn isn't as tall as it you'd say you know round this time of year the corn's not as tall as it 811: It uh i- it usually gets in the. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: The corn is just starting to to come up now. Interviewer: Yeah {D: no doubt}. But late in the summer you might look at the corn and you say #1 the corn. # 811: #2 No- # not as it usually be. Interviewer: Okay. Um and uh a child might be might be doing something the boy got a whipping and you say I bet he did something he. 811: Didn't have no business. Interviewer: Uh you aren't doing what you. 811: You supposed to do. Interviewer: Or you a- you 811: What you oughta do. Interviewer: Okay or if he got a whipping you'd say I he di- he must've done something he. 811: You didn't have no business #1 or he # Interviewer: #2 Or. # 811: That he shouldn't have did. Interviewer: Okay or you ou-. 811: ought not oughtn't Interviewer: He did something he ought he what he you say he ought not 811: That he ought not had did. Interviewer: Okay. Now somebody said will you do that and you'd say no I. 811: I didn't. Interviewer: Or will you do it or nu- no I. 811: I won't do it. Interviewer: Okay or can you no I. 811: I won't do it. Interviewer: Okay or uh I'd like to but I. 811: I can't. Interviewer: I can't. Sh- or you might say sure I. 811: I can do it. Interviewer: {X}. Um now okay can you count to uh to twenty-four slowly? Yeah twenty-four. 811: One. Two. Three. Four. Fix. Six. Seven. Eight. Nine. Ten. Eleven. Twelve. Thirteen. Fourteen. Fifteen. Sixteen. Seventeen. Eighteen. Nineteen. Twenty. Interviewer: Okay twenty-four twenty-five twenty-six. 811: Twenty-seven. Interviewer: Okay. Twenty-eight twenty-nine. 811: Thirty. Interviewer: Thirty-nine. 811: Forty. Interviewer: Okay. Sixty-nine. 811: Seventy. Interviewer: Ninety-nine. 811: A hundred. Interviewer: Okay. Um ten times a hundred thousand is a. 811: Is a million. Interviewer: Okay. Now there's a lot of men standing somewhere and you say the man the head of the line is the 811: is the leader. Interviewer: Okay he's the what man? 811: The head leader. Interviewer: Okay. In baseball you get a hit you run to. 811: The first base. Interviewer: Then the steal. 811: Second base. Interviewer: Then. 811: Third base. Interviewer: Okay. First second third. 811: And home. Interviewer: Okay and then comes the well you count these as first second and third 811: The fourth. That would be home. The fourth base. Interviewer: Okay and then comes the. well after the fourth comes the. What's your man standing in line? The fourth man then the. 811: The fifth man. Interviewer: Then the. 811: Sixth. Interviewer: Okay. Um now sometimes you feel you good luck comes just a little at a time but your bad luck comes. 811: All at once. Interviewer: Yeah. Uh you might say last year I got twenty bushels an acre and I'm expecting to get forty. 811: Bushels this year. Interviewer: Okay so I'll be getting? 811: Twice twice as many. Interviewer: Okay. Uh now the months of the year can you do it? 811: Twelve months. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 811: #2 {X} # Uh January February March April May June July August September October November December. Interviewer: Okay. now they say honor the what day to keep it holy. 811: Uh christening day. Interviewer: Okay or uh the days of the week are the day. 811: Uh. Interviewer: The first day of the week is? 811: Monday. Tuesday. Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday. Interviewer: Okay. You know what the- they say honor the what day the? 811: Oh uh honor the the seventh day. That would be Sunday. Interviewer: Okay. Uh now when do you stop saying good morning? When after you've met someone you'd say. 811: Uh. Interviewer: Say when? 811: Well twelve noon. Interviewer: And then you say. 811: Good afternoon or good evening. Interviewer: Okay. You ever say anything that you might say any time of the day? 811: Uh hello or. Interviewer: Okay or. #1 Uh when you're leaving somebody's house at night. # 811: #2 {X} # Good night. Interviewer: Okay. Or you say on the farm you guys start work before daylight. You'd say we started work before. 811: Before sunset. No before uh sunrise. That'd be full daylight. Interviewer: Okay. And we worked until. 811: About uh 'til after sunset. Interviewer: Okay. 811: It'll be 'til dark. Interviewer: We saw you might say we were a little late this morning when we started out in the fields the sun had already 811: The sun had already rose. Interviewer: Rose. Uh now today is is let's see today is Thursday Wednesday was. 811: Yesterday. Interviewer: Okay. If somebody came on yo- to visit you on on Sunday the last Sunday you'd say he came a week earlier than last Sunday you'd say he came here. 811: Uh the week before last. Interviewer: Okay or Sunday. 811: The Sunday before last. Interviewer: Okay. If he's gonna leave next Sunday or wha- what if he's gonna leave a week beyond Sunday that would be when? 811: The Sunday after next. Interviewer: Okay. Now if you wanted to know the time of day you're on the street in town you walk up to somebody and you say uh. 811: Do you have the time? Interviewer: Okay. And uh if it was midway between seven o'clock and eight o'clock you'd say it was. 811: Uh seven-thirty. Interviewer: Okay or half. 811: Half past seven. Interviewer: Okay. Um now if it was fifteen minutes later than that you would say it's. 811: Quarter to eight uh fifteen to eight. Interviewer: Okay. Or if it was ten-fifteen he'd say it was. 811: Uh fifteen after ten. Interviewer: Okay. You've been doing something for a long time and they say uh you've been doing it for quite. 811: Quite some time or quite a while. Interviewer: Uh if something happened on this day last year you'd say it happened exactly. 811: One year ago. Interviewer: It happened exactly a. 811: A year. Interviewer: One year. It happened exactly uh. 811: One year. Interviewer: Year ago? 811: Uh-huh. One year ago. Interviewer: Okay. Alright. Um Well that's about it I appreciate you talking with me. 811: Okay Interviewer: I enjoyed doing the interview. Ho- hope you didn't find it was too long or too long or anything like that. Uh but y- your wife folks you say were born and raised up here 811: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 And you two you've been here all your life. # 811: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #1 Uh. Okay. # 811: #2 {X}. # Interviewer: Did you ever have any problems with with French or folks from the area? 811: Uh usually {X} when he get to talking French and if y- you say a couple of things slow uh {X} I'll understand that but as soon as you start talking {X} you can stop right there I don't understand. {NW} {C: cough} {NW} {C: cough} Now usually they can kind of we can get kind of a batch up something we both can understand Interviewer: Yeah. 811: Her mother was a a big problem. Interviewer: Yeah. Your wife's father you didn't have any problem talking with him? 811: No he talks good English he just uh he'd tease me whole lot of time and say a bunch of words in French but I don't pay him no mind. Interviewer: Yeah. 811: I tell you say what you want about me as long as you don't call me late for supper. #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Okay. Uh {X}? 811: Uh {X} {C: audio becomes distorted and fades out} {NS} {X} {C: audio still distorted and faded} {X} {C: audio still distorted and faded} {NS}