Interviewer: {NS} Um you might say {NS} in a dangerous situation he mm to be careful? 888: He should have been careful. Interviewer: Okay uh I might say um I'll dare you to go through a graveyard at night but I'll bet you? 888: Go through it in the day. Interviewer: Okay but you- at night I bet you what? 888: Wouldn't go through it at night. Interviewer: Okay um. Uh your mother might say you aren't doing what you what to do? 888: Supposed to do. Interviewer: Okay uh if a boy got a whipping you'd say I bet he did something he? 888: Shouldn't have done. Interviewer: Okay. And uh refusing something in a very strong way you'd say no matter how many times you ask me to do that I? 888: {NS} Wouldn't do it. Interviewer: Okay um. When you get something done that was hard work and you did it all by yourself if there was a friend just standing around without helping you might say well you what helped? 888: Should of helped. Interviewer: Okay uh let's see suggesting the possibility of being able to do something you might say well I'm not sure but I might what do it? 888: And I may I may maybe do it? May I mean Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I may not do it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. Would you # 888: #2 I mean. # Interviewer: ever say might could? I might could do it. Would you ever say something that way? 888: Might could yeah. Interviewer: Okay okay um what do you call a kind of owl the this-the kind of bird that goes who? 888: An owl. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Oh well. Uh okay um. Do you know of a smaller kind of owl that uh makes a makes a real loud shrill sort of noise? 888: {X} Uh a wolf. Interviewer: Uh it's a it's a kind of owl it's a some kind of owl. Have you ever heard of another kind of owl? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um what do you call a kind of bird that drills holes in trees? 888: A woodpecker. Interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard a class of people compared to woodpeckers? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard that word used in the other way that sounds sort of like that? 888: {NS} No I sure haven't. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} what do you call there's a there's a kind of woodpecker that's bigger. That's about the size of a half-grown chicken. Do you have a name for that? 888: That's the size of a chicken? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: That makes a lot of noise? Interviewer: Um I don't know. It's about the size of a half-grown chicken. It's not quite as big as a whole chicken. 888: And you say what? Interviewer: It's-it's a kind of woodpecker. Do you know another name for it? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um. What do you call a black and white animal that has a powerful smell? 888: A skunk. Interviewer: Okay know any other names? 888: Pole cat. Interviewer: Okay uh what kind of-what kinds of animals come and raid hen nests? Do you know? 888: Pole cat. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 888: Skunk. Interviewer: Okay 888: #1 That's- oh. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: Just besides that? Interviewer: Yeah uh besides that. 888: Um. Uh. Interviewer: They come and get the eggs you know? 888: Cats. Interviewer: Okay you might say talking about all these kinds of animals that do that you might say I'm going to get me a gun and some traps and stop those whats? 888: Varmints Interviewer: Okay um what is a varmint exactly? Would you-would you tell me what you mean by that? 888: Something that you don't something that you don't like and something that you did. Interviewer: That you what? 888: Something that you don't like and something that you know you did something wrong. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Okay is it always an animal or can it mean people 888: #1 It can mean # Interviewer: #2 or # 888: people too. Interviewer: How would you use that? Would you use it in a sentence for me talking about some people? 888: Um that varmint that varmint did something wrong to me. Interviewer: Okay okay um um um let's see. What do you call the little bushy-tailed animals that run up and down trees? 888: Bush- bush- bushy tailed animals that run up and down trees? Squirrels. Interviewer: Okay are there different kinds and colors and sizes and stuff? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um what do you call a thing that looks kind of like a squirrel but it's about- it's smaller. It's about this long and it has a little short tail and it's got black and white stripes on its back and it it has little bitty stubby short ears and it's real cute? And they they keep nuts in their jaws sometimes. And uh I don't think they climb trees. They might climb little stumps or something they don't climb trees. And if you go someplace like like Colorado or someplace up in the national parks they're so tame they'll come up uh to the pass you know and beg for food. They sit up like this and beg for food. When they sit up they're about that tall. 888: Squirrels? Interviewer: Uh what kind of squirrel? It's like a squirrel but it's 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 not # What? 888: A monkey? Interviewer: No it's it's2 {X} {C: engine revving drowns out her voice} It's sort of like a squirrel but it's not exactly a squirrel. Have you ever heard anything like that called a a grinny or a picket pen or a ground squirrel or a chipmunk or anything like that? 888: Chipmunk. Interviewer: What is a chipmunk exactly? 888: Chipmunk. I guess something that an animal or little something that comes out something like that you know begs for food. Interviewer: That what? Oh begs 888: Got like a little animal that like a monkey Interviewer: Uh-huh yeah. Do we-do y'all have them around here? 888: At the zoo yeah. Interviewer: Okay um {NW} What kind of freshwater fish can you get around here if you go fishing in a creek around here? 888: You can get you know speckled trout down there on I think sometime {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And you can gets a couple of catfishes up there. Couple of perches. That's all. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What about what about saltwater fish? What kind of saltwater fish can you get? 888: Saltwater fish? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I couldn't say cause I ain't been fishing. Interviewer: Okay okay Um let's see um if you go some place to eat seafood and you get a kind of seafood that comes in a shell like this you might get it-you might call it a what? 888: Comes in a sea shell? Interviewer: Uh-huh comes in a you know like you open it like that. 888: Fish. Interviewer: Uh-huh well it's-it's a it's a shellfish I guess but it's not a fish regular fish fish but the shell looks like that Sometimes you can find pearls in them. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay. Um let's see. What do you call those things that you hear making noise around a pond at night? 888: Frogs. Interviewer: Okay any particular kind of frogs? 888: Bullfrogs. Interviewer: Okay um there's another kind of frog that they get up in trees and they have little tiny little tiny voices that you hear after rain sometimes. Do you have another name for that kind of frog? 888: Tree frog. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} what about a brown kind of frog that hops around your garden and eats insects and sometimes they're blamed for uh giving somebody warts? 888: Uh bullfrog? Interviewer: Okay okay um If you go fishing what would you put on your hook to catch fish with? 888: A bait. Or worm worm or Interviewer: okay 888: shrimp or something like that. Interviewer: A what-a what? 888: Worm or shrimp. Interviewer: Okay okay um {NS} tell me about the shrimp um you might go to a fish market and they ask for a few pounds of? 888: Worms? Interviewer: Mm okay did you say shrimp? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay so you might- if you want something you know to eat? 888: Oh you want something to eat. Interviewer: Yeah some-some shrimp. 888: Oh. Interviewer: You might go to the market and ask for a few pounds of? 888: Shrimp? Interviewer: Okay okay uh now is that the same thing that you use for bait? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. What kinds of worms would you use? 888: Worms out the ground lives in the ground. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: #1 Earthworms. # Interviewer: #2 Uh # {NS} Mm? 888: Earth worms. Interviewer: Oh okay let's see um what do you call the hard shelled thing that pulls its neck and its legs into it's shell when you touch it? 888: A turtle. Interviewer: Okay and um what do you call something that's like a turtle and it lives on dry land? {NS} Do you have a name for something like that? 888: Something that looks like a turtle and lives on dry land? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh what do you call a little thing that that you find in fresh water streams and it's got claws snappers? Like that. 888: Crab fish. {NS} Interviewer: Okay. Uh what did you call it? 888: Crab #1 fish. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Um how big are they usually? 888: They're about {NS} several uh two inches I mean like three three two inches big. Three or four inches. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Some is bigger. If you you know catch them. Because when I used to live on the west side we used to catch them over at this creek and you sometime you get them about five inches big or ten inches. Interviewer: That's pretty big. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Don't think I'd want to see one that big. 888: We used to put them we used to catch them we used to you know use uh some kind of string {X} string net tie the string on the net and that puts some bait right in the middle of the net on the string Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 They would # fall right into the water and they would see it and they would get right on top of that string and we'd be on top of the bridge we just pull it right up. It'd be on there {X} put them in some water you know we don't eat them you know. {X} Some people like to eat them you know but I never did eat them. Interviewer: I never did either. 888: {X} Some people you know would pay us for catching them and then they would eat them. Interviewer: Huh. 888: {D: But they said it's good strip you know inside.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: They claws is kinda they got stripping inside. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh what-what do you mean they've got what inside now? 888: {D: They got strimp on the inside of their body} Interviewer: Yeah what do you mean #1 by that? # 888: #2 They got # {X} That's good to eat. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: You put you know just fry it. Some people just fry the whole thing. Interviewer: Oh. 888: But they cut they head off. Interviewer: Yuck. 888: I couldn't eat them. I never did eat them. My mother don't like them. I don't like them. My family don't like them. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And you know we'd sit like I didn't have nothing else to do me and my friend we just you know go on down to the creek catch crab fish. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh. 888: Mothers used to- everybody used to be scared of it. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: But sometimes you know if you catch it they'll pinch you. Interviewer: Yeah I know. {NW} Yes. 888: They used to have some big ones up that H-U-V. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Long time ago. I don't know what they did with them. Used to be real bigs ones. Interviewer: For sale? 888: No they was just for show. Interviewer: Oh. 888: Used to be inside of a showcase. Glass showcase where you can you know they have water and stuff in it but they be swimming around in there. Interviewer: Uh. 888: That's when I was real small when I used to step on {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: See some pretty big crabs. I didn't know what they was way back then you know. But I know what they was now. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: because I see them all the time. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay. Um what do you call that um insect that flies around the light and it tries to fly into it and when you grab it powder comes off in your hand? #1 Almost # 888: #2 Butterfly. # Caterpillar butterfly Interviewer: Oh okay what was the second thing you said? 888: Butterfly. Interviewer: Okay but after that you said 888: Caterpillar. Interviewer: Okay um um this is kind of like a butterfly only the colors aren't bright you know it's like brown or something dull. {NS} What do you call-what do you call the things that {X} get in your wool clothes and eat them up if you're not careful? 888: Moths moth moths. Interviewer: Okay okay and if you had just one of those you'd call it a 888: Moths. Interviewer: Okay uh what do you call the things that fly around at night and flash their lights on and off? 888: Light bug. Interviewer: Mm they're insects. 888: Oh. Interviewer: Yeah what'd you say? 888: Light bugs. Interviewer: Oh. 888: You said on and off or what? Interviewer: Yeah insect that flies around 888: Uh you call it an insect I call it {NW} light bug. Interviewer: Okay 888: #1 They insects # Interviewer: #2 okay # 888: but you know. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: {X} I just call them light bugs. Interviewer: Light-light bulbs? 888: Yeah they flash on and off. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: We used to catch them a long Interviewer: #1 Yeah what'd # 888: #2 time ago. # Interviewer: you do with them? 888: We used to you know get wet dog paste and put them in a jar and look at them light up and up. Off and on off and on. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 That's what # you're talking about light bugs right? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And on and off yeah. Interviewer: Yeah yeah that's right. That's what I'm talking about. Okay uh what do you call the kind of insect that flies around at night and bites? 888: Mosquitoes. Interviewer: Okay uh there's a there's a thing that flies around an insect that flies around that eats mosquitoes and it has a body that's about that long and it's got two pairs of about real shiny wings and the wings are about like that. And uh sometimes the body's blue and sometimes it's black sometimes it's gray and they're some of them are about this big but sometimes they get real big. 888: Bats? Interviewer: No this is an insect that's smaller than that. And it uh they hover around like lakes or something you know like this And they eat uh they eat mosquitoes mostly. 888: They eat mosquitoes? Interviewer: Yeah have you ever heard them called anything like uh um 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 mosquito # mm? 888: Go ahead. Interviewer: Would you- what were you going to say? 888: Uh dragonfly. Interviewer: Okay do you know any other names for that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay all right. Uh what kinds of insects are that you know about that fly around and sting? 888: Fly? Oh wasps. Interviewer: Okay what else? 888: Bee. Interviewer: Okay uh on wasp um Okay if you saw just one you'd say there's a 888: Wasp. Interviewer: Okay and if you saw two you'd say look there are two? 888: Wasps. Interviewer: Okay okay okay I got bees and what else? 888: Bees {NS} red bees Interviewer: {NW} 888: {X} Interviewer: What are red bees? 888: Red bees? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: They some of the bees that like come from Africa that you know you get bit by them some of them you know well if you get bit by a lot of them some people die from them. Interviewer: #1 Really # 888: #2 Some people don't. # Interviewer: #1 # 888: #2 # They's called red bees. Interviewer: Okay. 888: #1 We had one # Interviewer: #2 What else? # 888: not too long ago we had some up here. Not too far from San Antonio but they killed this lady. It was in the news I don't couple couple months ago. Interviewer: Mm-hmm? 888: {X} I don't know why they attacked her but they say you know they all attacked her. Interviewer: {NS} I wouldn't want to aggravate them. 888: {X} Yeah they dangerous. Interviewer: Okay what other kinds of insects are there? 888: Other insects that bites? Interviewer: Yeah. That sting. 888: Oh sting? Well they got big Tarantulas. {D: and flies} #1 And # Interviewer: #2 Tell me # tell me about a tarantula. What- what is a tarantula like? 888: Um {NS} When I was down at my grandmother's house where we had you know taran- you know all in the house sometimes. They would you know fly around I don't know why they how they had wings but they was tarantulas because you know they was spiders but they had wings. Interviewer: {NW} 888: And they would {X} on you and bite you. Make you sting a little bit. Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} Back to the tarantulas 888: Oh well uh you know they would bite and you know they sting a little bit Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Put a little {D: eye color stuff} like that on it Interviewer: Yeah. 888: That's about all I know. Interviewer: Okay what do you call a kind of wasp that builds nests out of mud or dirt? 888: Uh I forgot what you call it. I guess a {D: mug}. Interviewer: A what? 888: {D: A mug} wasp. Dirt wasp whatever. Interviewer: Okay okay What do you call uh the kind of insects that like if you walk through the grass without any shoes on these little things get and burrow down in your skin and it makes it itch real bad? You can't really see the insect it's too little. 888: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 But # little tiny- sometimes it's a little red spot. It looks just like a mosquito bite. 888: Looks like a little mosquito bite? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} What do you call um the insects that some are green and some are brown and they hop along the grass in summertime? 888: Grass hoppers. Interviewer: Okay. Ever heard anybody call them hoppergrass? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. What do you call a little bitty tiny fish that you might use for bait on a? 888: Minnows. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If you haven't cleaned up a room in a good while sometimes you get these things up in the 888: #1 Cobwebs. # Interviewer: #2 corners? # Okay. What if it's outside? What would you call it? 888: Cobwebs. Interviewer: Okay okay um. Let's see. If you're pulling up a tree stump you have to dig around and cut all the? 888: Roots. Interviewer: Okay have you ever heard of any kind of roots that are used for like medicine? 888: Uh mint. Interviewer: Okay. What-how-what do they use that for? 888: They use mint for when you get a you know like you down with a little bad cold you can take that and put it inside of a pot. And you cook it boil it and you drink the some kind of mint juice off of it. That's what our mother used to give us. Interviewer: Oh. 888: That's all the roots I know of. Interviewer: That sounds good. 888: It is. {NW} It helps your cold. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 If you down # low down and sick. If you ever get sick just use that and Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: you know it'll help you a lot. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh okay um what do you call the kind of tree that you tap for syrup? 888: That you tap for syrup? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} what all kinds of trees are there around here? 888: Maple trees uh lane trees lime trees #1 peach trees # Interviewer: #2 What what was that last one? # 888: Lime trees. Interviewer: What is that? 888: It's a tree that grow limes. on it. So like {X} Eastside You don't see too many of them um but my sister she cut them down because they was blocking her window. She had a lime tree. She got a grapefruit tree too but she ain't cut the grape she cut you know a little bit you know but not all the grapefruit tree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: #1 Lime # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 888: trees you know just Interviewer: #1 {X} # 888: #2 grow limes like real sour limes. # Interviewer: Okay okay what else is there? 888: Um They got like I was saying they have grapefruit trees that you know grow grapefruits on Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 888: #2 them. # They got maple trees. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Where you get maple syrup and stuff like that. Interviewer: What else? 888: And they got green trees. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 888: #2 And they got # that's all the trees I can think of Interviewer: Um what do you call that kind of tree that um it has leaves that look like a cotton wood look like cotton wood leaves. And the bark on it kind of looks like cotton would too because it's kind of gray and white and scaley. It's always peeling off you know and it's got these little balls that hang on it They're about that big and they're they're green right now but in the fall they'll be brown and then they drop off you know. 888: They green? Interviewer: Yeah they're green now but they're also a little bit smaller. But in the fall they'll be about this big and they're brown. Have you ever heard it called a button ball tree or a plain tree or a sycamore or a button wood tree? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Um. What kind of tree did George Washington cut down? 888: Cherry tree. Interviewer: Okay um. There's a bush that grows along down here about grows along the roads and around by fences and the leaves turn bright red real early in the fall and has clusters of kind of reddish brown berries that are shaped like this. And people used to pick the berries and and make tea out of them. Or some times they use them for tanning hides. You know what kinda some In the east this kind of bush is poisonous but here it's not. You know anything like that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard anything like that called uh sumac or sumac or sumac or sumac? {C: pronunciation} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um what kind of bushes are there that make your skin break out if you brush up against them? 888: Poison ivy. Interviewer: Okay um what are some berries that you might buy if you go to the store to buy some berries? 888: Some berries? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Strawberries. Interviewer: Mm-hmm what else? 888: Apple berries. Interviewer: Okay what else? 888: Um. That's all the berries I buy. Interviewer: Uh you know what black berries look like? 888: Oh yeah. Interviewer: Yeah well okay there's some that look like blackberries only they're smaller. And they're red usually. 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What do you call those? Some of them are bred some of them are black actually. But they look like black berries. They're small and they're real sour. But they're good. 888: Plum berries? Interviewer: Uh no it's a different kind. You can buy them frozen or sometimes they grow out here but I you know I don't think I've ever seen any growing but 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um. You might say to somebody be careful about eating those berries they might be? 888: Green? Interviewer: Okay or worse than that they might be 888: Sour. Interviewer: Okay or bad for you they might make you sick 888: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 they might be # 888: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # P- 888: Poison Interviewer: What? 888: Poison. Interviewer: Okay okay um what do you call a tall flowering bush that has clusters of beautiful pink and white flowers that bloom in late spring? 888: Roses? Interviewer: Okay. Uh do you know of any names for any bigger ones that have like longer segments of stem. They grow further up in the mountains. 888: Um Interviewer: Anything like? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay what um there's a kind of tree that um that grows a lot down here. I've seen a lot of them. They have leaves that are about about like that sometimes bigger and they're kind of a yellow-y green well compared to other trees I guess and they're sort of brown on the underside. And they're real shiny waxy looking leaves and you know they're pretty big and they the tree flowers and has big white flowers about this big. 888: No. Interviewer: Have you heard it called a cucumber tree or a magnolia or a laurel tree or a cowcumber tree? {NS} Okay um If a married woman doesn't want to make up her own mind she might say well I better ask who? 888: Her mother. Interviewer: She's married. 888: Oh she's married she better ask her husband. Interviewer: Okay. What else might she call him? 888: Fiancée. Interviewer: Mm she's married to him already. I mean would she have any joking names you know like she might say I better ask my what? {NS} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay okay um a married man. What would he say about her I better ask my? 888: Wife? Interviewer: Okay and um a woman who's lost her husband is called a 888: #1 Widow. What? Widow. # Interviewer: #2 I mean her husband-I'm sorry # 888: #1 A widow. # Interviewer: #2 I'm sorry. # {NW} 888: {NW} Interviewer: Say it again. 888: A widow. Interviewer: Thank you. 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # I managed to say something at exactly the same time 888: #1 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #2 every time. # Um okay what if her husband just ran off and left her? Then she'd be a what? 888: She'd be a just a widow. Interviewer: Okay um when you were little who was the one that took care of you the most? 888: My mother. Interviewer: Okay and her husband would be called your? 888: Her husband? My daddy. Interviewer: Okay or uh another word for daddy would be your? 888: Father. Interviewer: Okay. And what did you call-what did you call your father? Did you call him daddy? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay what else did you-what else did you call him? 888: Just daddy. Interviewer: Okay okay what did you call your mother? 888: Mama. Interviewer: Okay. Call her anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: You know of anything else that like old people call their parents? 888: Uh. I call her my old lady sometimes. Interviewer: Oh #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 Old man. # Interviewer: Okay okay um Would that be young people who said that or old people? {NS} 888: Young people. Interviewer: Okay um so your mother and your father together would be called your? 888: Old man and old lady? Interviewer: Okay but one word for the 888: Oh one word? My parents. Interviewer: Okay and uh your mother's mother would be your? 888: Mother. Interviewer: Your mother's mother would be your 888: Grandmother. Interviewer: Okay and your mother's father would be your 888: My mother's father would be her Interviewer: Your 888: grandfather. Interviewer: Okay uh okay what did you what do you call your yeah what did you used to call your grandmother? 888: Grandmother. Interviewer: Okay did you ever know your grandfather? 888: No. Interviewer: Um. Do you know do you know people your age who do know they're grandfather? 888: Yes. Interviewer: What do they call them usually? 888: Just grandfather. I don't know. Interviewer: Okay they don't have any affectionate names other than just grandfather? 888: Just grandfather. Interviewer: Okay uh okay you might say I was the youngest of five what? 888: Children. Interviewer: Okay. Are there any names that people use instead of children? 888: Child. Interviewer: I mean I mean for children. What would you say other than children? 888: {NS} Other than children? {X} Interviewer: I was the youngest of five children or five 888: Sisters or brothers. Interviewer: Okay uh A name that a child is known by just in the family you know nobody calls you that but just in the family you would be what? Your what name? 888: {X} Interviewer: Mm no. Nobody calls you that except just in your family. I mean like it's nobody knows it you know? 888: Oh. Interviewer: But there's a certain kind of name. 888: Nick name or something. Interviewer: Okay okay uh let's see. What do you call a thing that you can put a baby in and the baby lies down and you can push it along you know and it's got a little cowl thing that comes up over it 888: Cradle. Interviewer: Okay but this is something on wheels that you can push. 888: A buggy. Interviewer: Okay and if you're going to take the baby out in the buggy you might say you're going to what the baby? 888: Push him. Interviewer: Okay um Let's see. Um. {NS} Okay if you had children you'd say your children are your sons and your {NS} 888: If I had children it would be my sons and my wife. Interviewer: Your sons 888: And his wife? Interviewer: No okay you have children? All right. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Okay the boys would be your sons. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: And then there'd be some more probably and they'd be 888: My daughters. Interviewer: Okay and daughters are always not boys but 888: Girls. Interviewer: Okay yeah. {NS} Okay if um if a woman is going to have a baby you'd say she's what? 888: She's expecting. Interviewer: Okay. Any other words you might use? 888: Um no. Interviewer: Okay are there any joking ways of talking about it? 888: Saying she just big. Interviewer: Okay okay um if you don't have a doctor to deliver the baby the woman you might send for would be called a 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um. If a boy has the same color hair the same eyes as his father and same shaped nose you know and same shaped ears and that kind of thing you'd say he what? 888: Spitting image of his daddy. Interviewer: Okay and suppose he acquires the same mannerisms as the behavior of his father you'd say what? 888: Takes after him. Interviewer: Okay what if he starts picking up his father's bad habits would you use any other word? 888: Back ground {X} Footsteps Interviewer: What what about foot steps? 888: He followed his foot steps. Interviewer: Okay okay um you might say so and so had a hard life. Her husband died and she what six children all by herself? 888: Took care of six children by herself. Interviewer: Okay is there any other word you might use instead of took care? Took care? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um to a small child who's misbehaved you might say if you do that again I'm going to give you a good 888: Whooping. Interviewer: Okay or what? 888: Sla- slap. Slap. Interviewer: Okay what's the difference between a whooping and a slap? 888: Whooping you get hit everywhere. A slap you just get hit in the face. Interviewer: Okay okay uh Let's see oh okay. Say that a little boy small boy says that to another boy he what {X} going to be a fight. You know they're going to fight. One little kid says to the other little kid if you do that again I'm going to give you a good what? 888: Repeat it again? I didn't hear you. Interviewer: Same thing as the as you said before but this is one little boy says to another little boy if you do that again I'm going to give you a good 888: Hit? Interviewer: Okay anything else? There's going to be a real fight. 888: Fist. {NS} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Okay uh what if it was two older boys like two guys your age you know one of them might say to the other one you do that again I'm going to give you a good what? 888: Kicking. Interviewer: Okay anything else? Would you ever say whooping or anything like that? 888: No. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 Just. # Interviewer: #1 # 888: #2 # Interviewer: Just what? 888: Get good fight just fight. Interviewer: Okay um If a boy named Bob is five inches taller this year you'd say Bob what a lot? 888: Growed a lot. Interviewer: Okay and you might say to him you certainly have what big? 888: Grown big. Interviewer: Okay and you might say that Bob came up so fast you could almost see him 888: Grow. Interviewer: Okay um a child who's born to an unmarried woman you'd call a what? 888: Adopted. Interviewer: Okay. Or but uh but if she had him you know uh and didn't have to go like to an adoption agency that she had the child herself but just didn't have a husband. 888: #1 Oh she had the child? # Interviewer: #2 What would you call- # Mm-hmm 888: What do I call that? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I mean you just say like he just the husband ran off and left her and the child Interviewer: Never had a husband. 888: Oh. Never had a husband? Interviewer: Uh-huh. But she got pregnant and then she had this kid. What would you call this kid? 888: An orphan I guess. Interviewer: Okay but she's going to keep the child. 888: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 888: She's going to keep the child. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 888: I'd just say uh pregnant uh just got pregnant and had a child. Interviewer: Okay okay uh you might say um Jane is a loving child but Peggy is even 888: Lovelier. Interviewer: Okay um okay say you had a brother who had a son. Okay so your brother's son would be your? 888: {X} My brother's son would be my uh I guess niece nephew. Interviewer: Okay um okay a child who's lost both parents is 888: Child who lost both parents? Interviewer: Mm. 888: Is an orphan. Interviewer: Okay uh if it had been put in an institution would you call it anything else? 888: {NS} Just an orphan. Interviewer: Okay um the person appointed to look after an orphan is it's legal 888: Guardian. Interviewer: Okay and um if you have a lot of cousins and nephews and nieces around you might say this whole town is just full of my 888: Kin. Interviewer: Okay would you use that word to include uh like your parents and your grandparents? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay what about your brothers and sisters and people who live in the house with you? Would you use it-would you include them in that word? 888: Oh on the word kin? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Yes I would use all of them. Parents and grandmother and all them. Interviewer: Okay but when you said this town's full's full of my kin would you mean your parents particularly or 888: #1 Kinfolks # Interviewer: #2 would you speak # Would you speak of them specifically if you meant 888: Um yes. Particularly about all of them. Interviewer: You're speaking about all of them okay. Um. Okay you might say um about somebody you might say yeah he has the same family name and he looks a little bit like me but we're actually no 888: Kin. Interviewer: Okay um Somebody comes into town and nobody had ever seen him before you'd say he's a 888: Stranger. Interviewer: Okay and if he came from out of state what would you call him? 888: {X} Interviewer: A what? 888: If he come from out of state? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: A foreign dude. Foreign person Interviewer: Okay okay what if he come from he came from um another country what would you call him? 888: Um A visitor I guess. Interviewer: Okay okay how far would he have to come {X} in order for you to call him a foreigner? 888: Mm how far would he have to come? Interviewer: Yeah 888: From different places that talk different {X} Interviewer: Like what I'm sorry can you say it a little louder? 888: Place like you know that comes from a foreign place like Massachusetts or a different continent that's different from this place Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Did you say that talk different? Is that what you? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um. Okay uh what was the name of the mother of Jesus? 888: Christ? Interviewer: Uh his mother. 888: Jane. Interviewer: Uh okay uh let's see his father was Joseph and his mother was M- 888: Jacob. Interviewer: Uh 888: I mean his mother was uh Interviewer: Ma- It's a it's a pretty common name for a girl. It starts with an M. 888: Mary. Interviewer: Okay um George Washington's wife's name was 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay it starts with an m too. Ma- um 888: Martha. Interviewer: Okay um There's a song that goes wait 'til the sun shines {NS} 888: Wait 'til the sun shines? Interviewer: Know that name? 888: #1 No I sure don't. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Um Let's see. There's a it's a nick name for Helen and it for Helen. The name Helen. and it starts with an N. 888: {NS} Starts with a N? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Nina? Nina? Interviewer: #1 Uh # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What? 888: {D: Nelen?} Interviewer: That's close. It ends with y. 888: {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Used to be I think they used to name mules or horses that. {X} Giddy-up n- 888: {D: Nilan?} Interviewer: Mm {NW} 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Okay um. The name Will is a nickname for what longer name? 888: Nickname for Will? Interviewer: Will is the nickname for what? 888: Hill? Interviewer: No it's a just a longer name. 888: Willard. Interviewer: Okay it's like Willard but it's not it's not Willard it's sort of like that though. Willi- 888: Nick name? Interviewer: #1 Okay Will # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What? 888: You? Interviewer: Will is the nick name and then the other one is longer and 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um oh let's see um There was an outlaw named mm the kid 888: Billy the kid. Interviewer: Okay um let's see What's Billy a nick name for? 888: What's Billy's nick- Interviewer: A nick name for? 888: I guess the kid. Interviewer: I mean Billy's real name was probably 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay uh okay in the bible um the first of the four gospels there's mm Mark Luke and John? What's the fist one? It starts with an M. Ma- Mm Mark Luke and John 888: Mark Luke and John? Interviewer: Yeah. Matt is a nick name for that. 888: Mack. Interviewer: Matt. 888: Lucas.e James. I don't know. Interviewer: #1 Okay. Okay. # 888: #2 I don't know. # Interviewer: A woman who conducts school you'd call a 888: Teacher. Interviewer: Okay. Do you know any old fashioned names for that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um. There's a guy who wrote sometime ago who wrote things like well he wrote a series of books called The Leatherstocking Tales and there's The Deerslayer and um The Last of the Mohicans and his name was James Fenimore Co- 888: Cook? Interviewer: Not Cook but Okay let's try another thing. You keep chickens in a chicken what? 888: Coop? Coop? Coop? Interviewer: Okay now add e r to the end of that and that's the guy's name. 888: Cooker. Interviewer: No. 888: Cooked? Interviewer: A chicken what? 888: Cooker? {D:Corker?} Cooker? Interviewer: #1 {X} # 888: #2 {NW} Okay # Interviewer: we got a problem here um okay let's see. The baseball hall of fame. Do you know where that is? 888: {NW} Interviewer: Baseball Hall of Fame? 888: Baseball Hall of Fame? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: California I believe. Interviewer: Okay um would you ever okay would you ever say um about somebody's name cooper or cooper? {C: pronunciation} 888: Repeat that please. Interviewer: Would you ever say cooper or cooper? 888: Cooper. I would say Cooper. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um okay now if there was a lady by this name. She was married. You'd call her 888: Miss Cooper. Interviewer: Okay um a preacher who's not really trained and who doesn't have a regular pulpit you know and he he preaches on Sunday here and there and he makes his living doing something else. So he's probably really not really good at preaching. Would you have a name from somebody like that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh okay what relation would my mother's sister be to me? 888: Your mother's sister to her? Interviewer: To me. 888: Aunt. Interviewer: What? You- Say the whole- can you say the whole thing? She'd be #1 I'd say # 888: #2 she'd be your # your aunt. Interviewer: Great okay um okay more names {NW} uh okay. Um. There's a girl's name that begins with S and Sally is a nick name for it. S and R 888: #1 Susan? # Interviewer: #2 r and # And then there's an R in the middle. Um in the bible she was the wife of Abraham. Um. There-you can buy little cakes and stuff like that have this gal's name on it. {D: It's got the name and then s-nn-lee.} 888: {D: Su Lee?} Interviewer: {D: No it's not Su or Susan. It's not that. Uh.} {NS} There's a there's a judge in this part of the country a woman and she when when Kennedy was assassinated she swore Johnson in you know on the airplane. And her name is s mm T. Hughes 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um let's see okay Kennedy's first name was? 888: Kennedy? John F Kennedy. Interviewer: Okay and okay if you had an uncle by that by the name of John you'd call him? 888: Uncle John. Interviewer: Okay okay um did we ever decide what Bill was a nickname for? I can't remember. 888: Billy the kid? Interviewer: Yeah is Billy a nick name for a longer name? 888: Billy? Interviewer: Okay okay um let's see if you had known say somebody like George Patton. You know who he was? 888: What was the name? Interviewer: George Patton. You know who he was? 888: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 They made a movie # Okay well how about Robert E. Lee? Do you know who he was? 888: I heard of him but I don't know who he was. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 Robert E. Lee? # Interviewer: Yeah. 888: He was a fighter I believe. Interviewer: Yeah okay and he was a he was a had a high rank in the civil war. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay and uh do you know what his rank was I mean if you were just going to guess you'd say he's probably a four star? 888: {D: I'd say about} two star general. Interviewer: Okay okay and so if you were to address him you wouldn't call him Mister Lee you'd say? 888: General Lee. Interviewer: Okay um the old gentleman who introduced Kentucky Fried Chicken is 888: Colonel Sanders. Interviewer: Okay and um what do we call the man in charge of a ship? 888: Captain Interviewer: Okay. And what other situations do you use that word in? 888: What other situations? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Where-what else would you use that word? 888: Skipper. Interviewer: I mean no not not different words but the word captain. Where else have you heard that word? 888: On the ships uh boats Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 Trains. # Interviewer: what about children? 888: Oh yeah I heard it around children. Interviewer: Okay what-what do children use it for? 888: What do they use it for? Interviewer: Mm-hmm the word captain. 888: I guess to play with. Interviewer: #1 Uh # 888: #2 Someone will play the captain I guess. # Interviewer: Uh oh okay I see what you mean um You mentioned rail roads? What does a rail road captain do? 888: Looks out he knows He takes over if anything goes wrong looks sees everything okay. Interviewer: Okay okay um the man who presides over the county court is a what? 888: Judge. Interviewer: Okay. And if there was a guy named Marshall who was happened to be a judge you'd you wouldn't say Mister Marshall you'd say- you'd call him? 888: Judge Marshall. Interviewer: Okay um. A boy or girl in school is a? 888: Student. Interviewer: Okay And if they're going to college would you-what would you call them? Same thing? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay what if they're in high school? 888: Student. Interviewer: Okay. Grade school? 888: Student. Interviewer: Okay um a person in an office who handles the boss's mail and schedules the boss's appointments and answers the telephone would be called the? 888: Secretary. Interviewer: Okay um a man who appears on the stage would be an actor but a women would be a 888: Actress. Interviewer: Okay and anybody born in the United States is called an 888: Citizen. Interviewer: Okay a what citizen? 888: Citizen of the United States. Interviewer: Okay um. Okay if uh let's see. You're not a Canadian you're an a- what? 888: Cana- I mean. Repeat that again? Interviewer: Okay. {NS} you wouldn't say you're Canadian you would say you're an a- 888: Native. Interviewer: A-an amer- am- 888: Amer- oh an American. Interviewer: Okay okay okay now uh tell me uh what what what is the name of your race? 888: Black. Interviewer: Okay what are some other terms that you might see on a a form that you were going to fill out? 888: Negro colored. Interviewer: Okay okay now uh of those which one do you like the best? 888: Black. Interviewer: Okay why? What's wrong with the others? 888: Well well if I'd pick two of them I'd have black and negro. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay. 888: And colored I don't dig because anybody can be colored. Interviewer: Oh like browns too huh? 888: Yeah so I go by the name of black because well black and negroes is you know expressing what you are too but not colored. Interviewer: Okay okay um. {NS} Okay okay uh {NS} but those three would all be fairly neutral kinds of terms. 888: #1 Right. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Now do you know some derogatory terms that people like that whites or that um Latin Americans might use about blacks? 888: Nigger. And they say nigger or black boy but you know that's what you know I like to be called black but not you know nigger or nothing like that because I don't think nobody was a nigger unless they was named that. and which we'll name negroes not nigger. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay okay uh okay what is the name of my race? 888: White. Interviewer: Okay do you know any other words that are just neutral sort of? 888: {NW} I don't want to say them right now. I don't want to say that. Interviewer: {NW} No neutral I mean 888: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 they're just # 888: #1 Just white. Just white you know. # Interviewer: #2 not like- like would be on a form. # 888: #1 Uh # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 888: {NS} I just call I just say white. That's all. Interviewer: Okay now do you know some uncomplimentary names? You can tell me. That's alright. I've probably heard most of them anyway. {NW} 888: I mean you know I never call nobody out of their race or nothing. But you know I hear these terms. Peckerwood stuff like that. Interviewer: #1 Yeah yeah # 888: #2 And # Interviewer: um peckerwood. Does that refer to any kind of whites or is that just like poor whites or is it uh 888: It's more it's poor whites. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: Peckerwood is. And Interviewer: Okay what about some others? 888: Redneck. Some like that. Redneck. Interviewer: What kind of person is a redneck? 888: Person that's real red you know. But you know that's what most people call them. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Call white people. Interviewer: Um let's see. Do you have a name for a child that's born of a racially mixed marriage like one parent's black one parent's white? 888: Yes. Interviewer: What's-what do you call him? 888: Half and half. My uncle he's married to a Spanish girl right now and he got I think three children right now. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh. Would you call them half and half? 888: Half and half. Mixed race but Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 there's nothing # to it. Interviewer: Uh-huh #1 what if- # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: go ahead. 888: Because people get married you know they don't have to be the same race or the same you know kind of people long as they love each other and want to go each other way. Interviewer: Yeah. Do you think your mother would be upset if you wanted to marry a a white girl or a brown 888: #1 No I don't # Interviewer: #2 girl? # 888: think so whatever you know whatever pleases me probably would please her. Interviewer: Uh-huh that's good. That's good that she'd be that way. Um let's see. Okay do you have a name for some- somebody that might have like a one white grandparent? 888: One white grandparent? Interviewer: Mm-hmm do you have a name for somebody like that? 888: Um. Interviewer: Instead of one parent you know a grandparent that's white? 888: I just say uh mixed blood. Interviewer: Okay okay um okay what would you call the man that you work for? I mean just how would you address him when you're talking to him? 888: Sir. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Or usually sir boss you know. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {X} Interviewer: Um. Okay what do you call white people who who aren't very well off {X} a chance at education and they're sort of good for nothing and too lazy to work and all that kind of stuff? 888: You're asking me what do I call them? Interviewer: #1 Yeah yeah # 888: #2 What what I # call them? Interviewer: Uh-huh needs to be white people who are like that. 888: I wouldn't call them I'd just say non-educated because black people they don't have they might not have all their ca- I mean education like white people have. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I would just call them non-educational. Interviewer: Okay okay um what would you call a guy who either black or white who lives out in the country and he doesn't know anything about town ways and he's kind of conspicuous you know when he comes to town. And uh he uh himself he might say oh I don't know anything about city ways I'm just an old what? 888: Bum. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 Or # city ways? Interviewer: Yeah he he's from the country. 888: Oh he's from the country. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And you asking me and he don't know what's going on today Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Well I would say he's-he's well he's been you know he's been far out you know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Because he don't know what's going on in today's life. Interviewer: Okay. 888: In this part of the world. Interviewer: Would little kids that are like being ugly might have some name they might call him? 888: Being ugly? Interviewer: Uh-huh being mean to him. 888: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 Making fun of him. # 888: No no I just say uh uh reformed I guess. {NW} Interviewer: He what? 888: reformed I guess. Interviewer: O-okay okay. Uh what do you mean by that? Tell me. Explain. If he's 888: {D: uh reformed} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Well I would say if a person you know is being called ugly it's because the way he looked and not the way they was you know the way they was born and maybe some parent may may had something wrong with them or been taking drugs or something like that to make the child reformed which somebody would call ugly. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 They would just # call them ugly right off the hand they just you know one house some would say. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay I get it. Um okay say you were at a party and you look at your watch and it's about oh it's after eleven thirty and you say well we better be getting on home it's mm midnight. 888: Past midnight. Interviewer: Uh it's not quite midnight yet so you might say it's okay say it's eleven forty-five. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: So you'd say it's mm midnight. 888: It's almost midnight. Interviewer: Okay um you might say this ice is hard to walk on. I managed to keep my balance but I mm fell three or four times. 888: Managed to keep my balance but I fell. Interviewer: But I 888: #1 I mean I fell # Interviewer: #2 Something something fell # I blank fell. 888: My legs fell? Interviewer: Um you didn't quite fall but you mm fell. 888: Oh. I didn't quite fell but I almost fell. Interviewer: Okay okay um if somebody's waiting for you to get ready so you can go with them and he calls to you hey will you be ready soon? You might answer I'll be with you in 888: Just a minute. Interviewer: Okay um say you know you're on the right road. You're going somewhere and you know you're on the right road but you aren't sure the distance and so you stop somebody and ask them how what to Oklahoma City? 888: Which direction is Oklahoma City? Interviewer: Now no you know you're on the right direction. But but you want to know the distance. 888: Oh. Interviewer: So you'd say how 888: How many distance to Oklahoma? Interviewer: What I'm sorry? 888: How many distance to Oklahoma? Interviewer: Okay um if you want to know how regularly somebody goes to town uh you might say how mm do you go to town? 888: How regularly do you go to town? Interviewer: Okay but don't use regular use 888: #1 How often # Interviewer: #2 how. # 888: do you go to town? Interviewer: Okay um. If you agree with your a friend of yours he says I'm not going to vote for that guy. You might say what? 888: I am not voting for that guy. Interviewer: Okay but he's he's already said that and you you agree with him real strongly and you probably wouldn't just repeat 888: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 what he'd said you'd # say 888: I'm not gonna vote for him. Interviewer: Okay. Would you add any other word? 888: I'm not gonna vote for him. Interviewer: Okay uh let's see. Would you say? {NS} Uh {NS} Something am I. He says I'm not going to vote for him you go mm am I. Okay you might say neither am I or me either. Which of those seems most natural? Which would you probably say? 888: Neither am I. Interviewer: Okay uh okay this part of your head right here is your 888: Forehead. Interviewer: Okay and um if you go to the barber he'll probably cut your? 888: Hair. Interviewer: Okay and if you if you don't shave for three or four weeks you're probably growing a 888: Beard. Interviewer: Okay uh where would an old-timey store keeper keep his pencil when he wasn't using it? So it'd be handy. 888: An inkwell. Interviewer: No he'd keep it be- 888: Oh on the back of his ear. Interviewer: Okay okay which ear? 888: Which ear? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I guess his right ear. Interviewer: Okay but if he was left handed he'd probably keep it behind his 888: Right ear. #1 Left ear. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # I'm sorry. 888: Left ear. Interviewer: Say it one more time. 888: Left ear. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} If somebody's mumbling you might say take that chewing gum out of your 888: Mouth. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say he got a chicken bone stuck in his 888: Throat. Interviewer: And you wear a tie around your 888: Neck. Interviewer: And what do you call this part of your neck right here? 888: Adam's apple Interviewer: Okay have you ever heard the word goozle? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um you have the dentist look at your 888: Teeth. Interviewer: Okay and you might say you need to have that 888: Pulled out. Interviewer: Okay a what pulled out? 888: Teeth. Interviewer: Uh just one. 888: He might had what pulled out? Interviewer: We might have to pull that 888: Teeth. Interviewer: Just one of them though. 888: Teeth. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Tooth. Interviewer: Oh okay okay there we go. Uh this is well you're taking pretty good care of your teeth but you better pay more attention to your 888: Gums. Interviewer: Okay okay Um you might say you can hold that baby bird in the what? 888: {NW} Palm of your hand. Interviewer: Okay. And he got mad and doubled up both 888: Fists. Interviewer: Okay and one man shook his at another? 888: Fist. Interviewer: Okay um. When people get real old they complain they're getting stiff in their 888: Shoulder. Interviewer: Mm. 888: Arm. Interviewer: Yeah and knees and what would you call all those there? 888: Arthritis. Interviewer: Okay arthritis in their 888: Shoulder? Interviewer: No it's all of 888: #1 these things that bend. # Interviewer: #2 Chest? # 888: Oh um Elbow? Interviewer: Yeah that too but the knee and those are all j- um 888: Oh you want one thing. Interviewer: {X} {NS} 888: In their muscles. Interviewer: Uh no no their their places in the where the bone comes together. Where the bone 888: #1 Joints. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # A what? 888: In their joints. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Okay uh. The upper part of a man's body is his? Think you just said it. 888: Shoulders. Interviewer: Okay um okay they measure the height of a horse. Wait here let's do this you have a left and a right? 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What is that? 888: Palm. Interviewer: Uh whole thing. 888: Hand. Interviewer: Okay and they measure the height of a horse in 888: Feet. Interviewer: Mm. 888: Foot. Interviewer: Not feet but 888: Hand. I mean Interviewer: Yeah. 888: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # And okay so you can have one hand or two 888: Palms. Interviewer: Okay but just say the plural of hand. 888: Hands. Interviewer: Okay um okay you might say that the pain ran from his heel all the way up his whole 888: Leg. Interviewer: Okay uh. You might say I stumbled over a box in the dark and bruised my 888: Leg. Interviewer: Okay but you-do you have a name for the part of your leg right here? 888: The front bone I guess. Interviewer: Okay um okay when your a little kid and-and you used play marbles sometimes little kids sit like this when they're playing marbles you know shoot. How-what would you say that you had to do to get in this position? 888: Squat. Interviewer: Okay um would you ever say hunker down? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um somebody's been sick quite a while but he's up and around now but he's still looks just a little bit what? 888: Pink. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh okay a man is not weak but usually he's if he's not weak then he's? 888: If he's not weak strong. Interviewer: Okay um some person who always has a smile on his face and never loses his temper you might say he's awfully? What? 888: Happy. Interviewer: Okay um okay say a boy is in his early teens and he's and he's just all arms and legs and he can hardly walk through the house without breaking something and you know you say oh he's at that what stage? 888: Good stage? Interviewer: Um referring to this condition about how he knocks things over you don't ne- 888: Oh. Nervous stage. Interviewer: Um it's really not so much if he's nervous or not it's 888: Repeat that over please. Interviewer: Okay he walks through the house and he's just you know he stumbles over things and he bumps into things and he he hits things with his arms and his legs and 888: Clumsy stage. Interviewer: Okay um A person who just keeps on doing things that don't make any sense you might say he's just a plain what? 888: Dummy. Interviewer: Okay um a person who has plenty of money and hangs on to it would be a? 888: Hangs on to it? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Tight. Interviewer: Okay uh Would you say that man is a tight or that man is tight? 888: He's tight. Interviewer: Okay okay and somebody who's tight you might say he's a what? 888: Might say he's greedy. Interviewer: Okay okay um. If you said that girl is very common. What would you mean? First of all would you ever say that? 888: That girl is ve-very common? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: No I wouldn't say that. I'd say I would say that she is co-I would say you know {D: don't have a face face like} she's pretty common. Interviewer: What would you mean by that? 888: Well she's pretty straight. She go by the all the rules. Interviewer: She what? 888: She goes by all the rules. Interviewer: Oh okay I see okay. Would you mean that to be a compliment or not? 888: We- well you can mean it as a compliment that you know if a girl wants to go by the rules you know str- play things straight on through Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 888: #2 which some # person might do wrong. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay um okay if an old man is still real strong and active and he doesn't say his show his age you might say you know he's really still quite what? 888: A kid. Interviewer: Okay or would you ever say anything like {D: spry or peppy or brash or trappy or lively or anything like that? Chipper?} 888: Lively. Interviewer: Okay um okay say um say you had kids and you had a teenage daughter and she had been dating and she was out later than usual. And you might say well I don't suppose there's anything wrong but I still can't help feeling a little? 888: Curious? Interviewer: Okay um. You don't feel easy about it but you probably feel? 888: Unhappy. Interviewer: Okay or opposite of easy would be 'un-? 888: Opposite of easy? Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you don't feel easy about it. You feel 888: Sad. Interviewer: Okay okay uh. Let's see. You might say I don't want to go upstairs in the dark. I'm what? 888: Scared. Interviewer: Okay um any other word you might use? 888: Afraid. Interviewer: Okay. Is there a difference between scared and afraid? 888: Yeah no it it is not when you're afraid you're scared Interviewer: Uh-huh okay uh Does one mean sort of a temporary condition and the other one means something that happens over and over? Or are they- are they just the same just exactly the same? 888: Not really. I mean scared is something that you're scared of and you can't face it and afraid is something that you are afraid of something. You know something that you're afraid of at home. Something you see. It frightens you. Interviewer: Okay uh a place like a dark road alongside a graveyard is a what kind of place? 888: No an alley? Interviewer: Oh okay but this is beside a graveyard. 888: Beside a graveyard. Interviewer: This is a place where you might get scared. So you'd say that's a what kind of place? 888: Creepy place. Creepy road. Interviewer: Okay. {X}