interviewer: {X} Why don't you give them Your whole name. 888: My name is {B}. interviewer: {X} Spell your first name. 888: L-E-S-H-A-C-H. {B} interviewer: {NS} Okay again. {B} Again? 888: Yes. {B} interviewer: {NS} Okay and uh where were you born? {B} {NS} Okay what county did you spend {B} {NS} Okay and you're how old? 888: I'm 17 years old. interviewer: Okay. {NS} And um what's your religion? 888: Um I'm a Baptist. {NS} interviewer: And what would you say is your occupation your {D: food and many} and part-time {D: one}? 888: Uh I'm a cook and I work with children. {NS} And that's what I do. {NS} interviewer: Where where do you cook? 888: I cook at {B} for the college students over there. {NS} interviewer: When when do you do that? I don't see when you have time to do all this. 888: Well right now I'm on vacation for Trinity University. interviewer: Yeah. 888: And they right now for the summer I'm looking I got this job working with children in recreation right now I start back in September and go back over to Trinity University. interviewer: Okay. So okay what uh what grade did you tell me you'll be in school next year? 888: I'm a senior next year. {NS} Hoping to graduate during the summer. interviewer: Okay um what all schools have you gone to 888: #1 What all schools for high school # interviewer: #2 Yeah sure # Yeah. Start with the first one and tell me the name of the school. 888: The first school I went to is Grant elementary. interviewer: How do you sp- what? 888: Grant Elementary. interviewer: Okay. 888: And the second school I went to was Dunbar. And the third school I went to was {D: Hart Bond} junior high. interviewer: Okay wait. Dunbar was what kind of school? 888: It was uh elementary was a junior school but they turned it into a elementary. interviewer: Okay and the next one was what? 888: {D: Hart Bond} junior s- junior high. interviewer: Okay. 888: Third one was Edison high school. And then I got transferred from Edison high school to Wheatly high school Because we had moved And They wanted to give me they didn't wanna give me the right courses that I wanted so. interviewer: Uh how do you spell Wheatly? 888: Wheatly is W-H-E-A-T-L-Y. interviewer: Okay. {NS} Tell me, what all clubs and stuff have you been in? 888: I go to the pool club #1 and um # interviewer: #2 The what? # 888: Pool clubs. interviewer: Okay. Where is that? 888: Uh, it's where I go for uh you know when I wanna do something on weekend days like Saturday, Sunday I go shoot a little pool. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And I used to go to boys' club That's when I used to get in a different you know organization such as basketball and baseball and football and stuff like that. interviewer: Yeah. {NS} Okay. What about church? 888: Church? Uh I went to St. John's and I went to Reverend Bailey's church I go you know both churches. interviewer: Oh these are not the same church? 888: No these are not the same {X} interviewer: Oh Reverend Bailey's church is um {NS} Is this one down here on this corner? 888: On north main. interviewer: Yeah. {NS} 888: It's a church called uh it's a methodist church on the corner but I go to either I go to both because you know I wasn't really really baptized at Reverend Bailey's church But I'm going to both right now sometime I When I get out of my church I go to Reverend Bailey's church too. interviewer: Okay. Um you go all the time and you go to youth groups and stuff like that? 888: Yes ma'am I go every Sunday. interviewer: Okay. {NS} Uh {D: did you ever do} much traveling? 888: Well not really much traveling but since my grandmother died we hardly you know go anywhere cause we used to go during the summer I used to take a vacation up there to stay with her for a while. interviewer: Where'd she live? 888: She lived in Georgetown. interviewer: Uh uh okay. {NS} What {D: you said} your whole family used to go and that 888: Yeah the whole family used to go but Like I wanna go around like I'm going to Houston's jazz festival starting on the 18th so I'll be going out of town then. interviewer: Yeah. That'll be fun. 888: That will be fun I'll {NS} stay overnight up there with a couple friends I know you know they invited me so I'll probably just stay up there. interviewer: {D: Ooh that'll be neat.} 888: Yeah. {NS} interviewer: {X} {NS} Where'd you tell me your mother was from? 888: My mother was born in Georgetown, Texas. {NS} interviewer: Okay. And tell me how old was she when she came here. Do you have any idea? 888: She was around 32 {X} About 32. About 32. interviewer: Okay. How old is she now? 888: I couldn't tell you that but I don't really know but I say it's ranging at about 49 prob- probably 48 or something like that I'm not very sure. interviewer: Okay. And uh where was your father born? 888: My father he was born in Louisiana. New Orleans. {NS} interviewer: Okay. And uh does he still live with you all now? 888: No my father he was deceased about 2 years ago. interviewer: Okay. Uh. {NS} Uh how far did your mother get in school do you have any idea? 888: She made it to about Ten tenth grade. interviewer: Okay. What about your father? 888: I don't know I really don't know. interviewer: Okay uh did your mother work? 888: No she's a housewife. interviewer: {X} 888: My father he was a deputy for the sheriff department. {NS} interviewer: Okay um where were your mother's parents from do you know? 888: Uh Rockdale. interviewer: Texas? 888: Yes, Rockdale, Texas. interviewer: Okay. Uh, do you know anything about {D: their} education? 888: Uh all I know that you know they While they was trying to work they couldn't you know Go to school and try to bring money home to they you know parents Because it was tough back then. interviewer: Yeah. Uh what did your uh mother's mother father do for a living do you know? 888: What'd they do for My mother's father do for a living? interviewer: Yes. 888: Well they picked cotton and stuff I guess. interviewer: {X} Okay. {NS} Did her mother do anything? 888: Uh She All I know that she used to stay home and cook, and help help him out in the field sometime when they wanted interviewer: Okay 888: to pick vegetables or stuff like that. interviewer: Pick what 888: Pick vegetables. Vegetables. interviewer: Yeah. Okay. Did they own a farm or did they work on somebody else's land? 888: No they they owned their own farm in Rockdale. {NS} They had you know different stuff. {NS} interviewer: Um do you {D: ever think} about where they came from before that? 888: No I sure don't interviewer: Okay. 888: I couldn't tell you about it. interviewer: Okay your your father's parents uh where are they from? 888: My father's parents? They're from New Orleans. {NS} interviewer: Okay um You know anything about their education? 888: I sure no I don't. interviewer: Okay. {NS} Um you know what they did for a living? 888: Uh no uh only thing I know they say is because most of the day, you know helped out in car washes and stuff like that I don't really know what they really did for a living but interviewer: Okay. Did his mother work? 888: Did his mother work? Yes. She did. I don't know what it was interviewer: Mm-hmm 888: but she worked. interviewer: Uh do you know where they came from before they were in New Orleans? 888: Well the only thing I can say is Where did they come from? interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well what I heard they would say in Louisiana That's where My mother you know got met met my father He came down. interviewer: So so lower part of Louisiana? Like 888: New Orleans, Louisiana. interviewer: Yeah okay. {NS} Okay. And I assume you're not married? 888: No I'm single. interviewer: {C: Laughs} Okay. {NW} 888: {D: Still on the bachelor side.} interviewer: Yeah. Alright we can scratch all that stuff. Um have you all lived in the same house since you were born or have you moved around or what? 888: Yeah we've been moving around place to place but you know right now we kinda find a nice place to stay right now. interviewer: Mm-hmm 888: And we still we still looking right now. interviewer: Uh huh uh huh. What's the first house you remember? 888: The first house I remember is when I was just a I was just born on Holland Street and All I know that when we moved it wasn't nothing but a vacant lot. {NW} interviewer: Is that right? 888: Yeah. interviewer: Yeah. Well do you remember what the inside looked like? 888: Yes I can It looked like you know way back in them days where the chair and the table wasn't the same And it's a lot of memories back in them days I can remember you know Some of the things we used to do on the outside and play I remember when {X} time like that way back then and it'd just be fun back in them days if I could relive them I'd do them right now interviewer: Yeah. Yeah you know when {X} 888: #1 Yeah that's just how # interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: I saw I life that's what interviewer: It scared me I did not {X} 888: {NW} interviewer: {X} 888: Yeah I know what you mean interviewer: I always associated something to do with the drag with dragons. 888: Dragons interviewer: It had something to do with dragons. {C: laughs} 888: Al- that's what my father always liked when every time it came on he'd say {NW} Here come the dragon now buddy hurry up it's coming on interviewer: {NW} 888: And we had something on the stove cooking you know my mother would be cooking We'd have we'd go in there and sit down and eat at the table we just she says every time we would look at TV she said hurry up and get through eating you know because {NS} food gonna get cold so we'd just sit there and look at TV. interviewer: Yeah. Uh huh same old story. Yeah. Well um I tell you what {X} I could get you to draw me a floor plan like if you took the top off just the roof off and looked straight down into the house. Could you draw me a floor plan of the earliest house that you remember? 888: Yeah. interviewer: Okay maybe you just draw it on the back of the 888: Right on the paper now. interviewer: Yeah. {NS} {NW} {NS} 888: I'm not too good at drawing, ma'am. interviewer: Try. I {D: could give you an advance}. {NS} You know it's really not too bad {X}. 888: Yeah, it's real cool. interviewer: Uh-huh. {X} 888: You don't have air conditioning interviewer: Hmm? 888: You don't have air #1 Conditioning # interviewer: #2 Yeah I do, but # Yeah I do but you know it takes {X} halfway across town before it starts to work. {X} {NS} 888: Oh and that tree was a big China berry tree. {NS} interviewer: Okay can up above there can you show me What where where the rooms were in relation to each other? 888: Where the rooms were? interviewer: Yeah mm-hmm. {NS} 888: My bed was right here. You want me to just point it out to you? interviewer: Yeah. {X} Draw in there to so I can tell {X}. 888: Okay. interviewer: But uh {X}. {NS} Do you have brothers and sisters? 888: Yes I have five brothers and three sisters. interviewer: {X} You've got a lot {X}. Where where are you? Are you in the mid 888: I'm the I'm the baby but my sister I'm the baby boy but I'm not the baby in the family, my sister is. interviewer: Uh huh so one sister is younger? 888: Yeah. interviewer: Uh huh. {NS} 888: And we used to have a bedroom back here. {NS} interviewer: How many rooms were were in the house? 888: It was a pretty big house because That's what I like about it because you know everybody almost you know we didn't have a bedroom by ourself but If we could get around in the house you know that if had two doors on it And we could go into one side door with you know without bo- you know bothering everyone else in the house interviewer: Yeah. 888: If you come in late {NS} That's all I can say interviewer: Okay alright now tell me how things look. 888: Well my bedroom was over here by this window here. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And when you come inside the door you could just walk right in the bed in my bedroom right here. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And the living room was interviewer: Was anybody else in there with you? 888: Yeah I had a little my brother he's in on there right now and he used to sleep with me. interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And {NS} He used to come inside and my mother's bed was over here And my sister and brother's bed was over here. interviewer: Okay {D: were those} in different rooms? 888: Yeah they was in different rooms. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And Right here the dining the kitchen was right here back in the back back corner. interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And {NS} Dining room we had a little little dining room where you could go in and sit down and talk. interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 When we had # Company interviewer: In the dining room? 888: Yeah. interviewer: Uh-huh 888: And we'd sit down and {X} {NS} And Around here it was a place where we could you know Where you can Sort of a closet it was a little closet back over here That's all I can remember. interviewer: Uh huh was that off the bedroom or {X} was? 888: It was in the bedroom. I can remember a closet and then we had a big Cadillac it was one of the real old-timey Cadillacs. interviewer: Yeah. Did it have fins on it? 888: Yeah. It used to be parked right out on the front of the yard. interviewer: Uh huh. {NS} {X} Cadillac. 888: {NW} interviewer: {D: You did good on the Cadillac huh?} {NW} 888: Yeah. Used to be parked right out there in front of this China berry tree right here. #1 Used to be a big # interviewer: #2 A what type tree? # 888: China berry tree. interviewer: Yeah mm-hmm 888: It used to be right there and every time they would bloom we would go outside and get the China berries off and interviewer: Yeah. 888: Eat them. interviewer: So you ate them? I didn't know you could eat them. 888: I mean pomegranates I'm sorry. interviewer: Oh! I didn't know you could eat china berries. 888: {NW} I'm sorry about that. interviewer: {NW} 888: Pomegranates I mean. interviewer: Oh I love pomegranate #1 That sounds good # 888: #2 Yeah. # We used to eat them every time it would get ripe. interviewer: They're nice 888: My mother wouldn't let us eat them sometimes because you know she'd think we'd get sick cause they were {NW} Sometimes my brother or sister would pick them off green and stuff like interviewer: No that's not too good. Anyway they're sour when they're green. 888: Yeah I know. interviewer: I don't like them that way. Well um okay let's see. Um uh where was the bathroom? {NS} 888: Oh I forgot to put the bathroom. {NS} The bathroom was straight straight back here. interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Here's the little room back over here where the dining room was interviewer: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Did you have a 888: {X} interviewer: Did you have a hallway that went back here? 888: Yeah there was a little hall. There was a little hall that'd go straight back. interviewer: Uh huh and did rooms open off either side of that? 888: Yes. interviewer: Yeah 888: You'd go off in the hall but sometimes you know our lights wouldn't be working and we had to use candles. interviewer: Uh huh oh yeah. When did that happen like what it'd rain or 888: Well uh we paid our bill it was bad wiring really and my mom wouldn't trust us with because one time our house it got caught on fire and it was because of the wiring in the house and so we didn't hardly use it too much because it was still you know still short somewhere in the sockets where it'd shoot little fires. interviewer: Yeah. 888: She just told us to use candles you know most of the time. interviewer: Ooh yeah. 888: And we told the man to come out and fix it but he didn't pay no attention to us. interviewer: Yeah. 888: Yeah we paid our rent on time And you know you know paid our bill on time but they would never come out and fix it that was one of the reasons we moved. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: Cause they wouldn't fix nothing. And then I went to the west side Lived on the west side for about three or four years Then we moved back to the north side. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: We lived by there right now {X} About ten ten years about ten years. #1 {D: Then we came back down here.} # interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Uh huh. This this house was on north side? 888: Yeah do you know where the H-E-B at right now on Hildebrand? interviewer: #1 Uh-uh. # 888: #2 {X} # On Hildebrand and McCullough interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 And # And it's H-E-B right sitting right in the front of it. {NS} We were living there since H-E-B was built when they were building H-E-B that's how long we been living there. interviewer: {X} 888: What? Oh it's a food market it's a food market. interviewer: Okay I get it okay. You're gonna have to tell me stuff like this {X} I don't know any of the names of stuff {X}. 888: Oh okay. Well that's a food market and when we used to live we used to live right by it and this man used to bring the Trucks up there and deliver stuff in the morning and he'd need some help So we used to go up there and do part time work. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And truck used to come right out there on the front. interviewer: Yes. 888: {X} H-E-B is back here It was out in the front but Trucks used to come up there in the front. And load stuff and they didn't have no help. interviewer: Yeah. 888: We used to give him a couple of hands. And he'd give us some you know free to take home or Stuff like that. interviewer: Yeah did he did he pay ya did he ever pay you in money? Or was it mostly like in food? 888: Well It was mostly in food. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And We was happy to get that #1 Anyway because # interviewer: #2 Yeah that'd be # 888: Used to take it home and My mother used to be happy about it wasn't much but it was something you know to eat. interviewer: Well yeah it was right here and you had some store to get it at right there Um oh what's that? 888: Uh we had a chimney on top of the house right there. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: It was we used to have a little Oh I forgot to tell you we used to have a wooden stove. We didn't have gas. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And Every time we'd burn the smoke would just come you know right out in the front of the house like that and everybody would see it next door because they'd think the house was on fire but it which it wasn't it was just smoke coming out the chimney. The big chimney and every time Christmas came we'd talk about Santa Claus was gonna come down the chimney and stuff like that my little brothers and sisters interviewer: Yeah. Well did she did she cook on the wood stove? 888: Uh interviewer: Or was that for heat for the house? 888: That was heat for the house and but we had a stove back there where you could cook on it's a little gas It was a {D: coil top} stove really We had a little {D: coil top} stove where we could cook on this Little lamp where you'd turn it up {D: coil top} stove. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: It wasn't until we used to go out and get wood but then wood went up one time and then My parents you know the man he went up on the wood because he said it was getting hard to get. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: So we'd start paying we started going to a different place then {NS} Start paying for more {X} But that's when the lumber yard got caught on fire down here way back then. interviewer: Oh. What what caused the fire? 888: What caused the fire? Uh somebody say that this man he used to live right there sometime you know he had a wooden stove too. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And Something got caught on fire. He used to be kinda drunk all the time he used to drink a lot. And he didn't you know care too much about himself and one day I guess one night he was sleeping and was real cold and whole place got caught on fire. interviewer: Ooh. 888: #1 It was all over the news. # interviewer: #2 What happened to him? # 888: He burned up. interviewer: Ooh. Yuck. 888: And after that we had to buy supply from somewhere else then. interviewer: Yeah. 888: But then summer came and we was okay. interviewer: Yeah. And then didn't you move {X}? 888: Yes we moved to the west side which We didn't have nobody to move us and nothing like that because we didn't have a truck and nothing like that so we had these neighbors come as many people down the street and they had a big big truck {NS} And my after my dad that's when my daddy died When we was living in the house. interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And We had a big They had a big truck down there so we asked them could they move us so they said yeah And my mother said that she would give them this car right here this Cadillac car. interviewer: Hmm. 888: Which they wanted, too. And so When they moved us we gave them that car interviewer: Mm-hmm 888: and I don't know what they did with it. But it was it was a good car. It runs you know It was a late model but it really ran. Cause my daddy used to take me everywhere you know where we wanted to go. interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And We moved to the west side over there on river street The house was real small cause we didn't have a charge to move because we were gonna move because The place you know they didn't want {X} and which {NS} uh We couldn't get you know satisfactory on it so my mother just moved. Moved to the west side and then we stayed on red woods about Stayed about three years because it was getting kind of small because It was you know it didn't have it had about I'd say about 2 bedrooms and interviewer: Yeah. 888: And we had to {X} in them two bedrooms. We had to make a a living room out of a bedroom. interviewer: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm 888: And {NS} That's how it was so small. So we moved off of red woods and we moved on Roberts. It was still on the west side. interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: That's when I was I'd say around Eight years old {NS} interviewer: {X} 888: And uh We moved over there on Roberts street right by the creek which we didn't like because whenever it'd flood The creek would over rise and you know it'd come from {X} lake yeah you know Come way down and it'd come up that high some people would you know Get washed you know their clothes and stuff would get washed away. interviewer: Yeah. 888: And Some houses would get over flooded and people that didn't have help they had to go down to the salvation army and get help from them and stay down there. interviewer: Yeah. 888: So interviewer: How old were you when your father died? 888: I was very small I That's when I was living on Holland. In this house right here. interviewer: Uh huh. You were about what? 888: Seven or Six or six to eight years old. I was real small but I remember the things he used to do. interviewer: Yeah. 888: That's one thing I used to remember. interviewer: Yeah. Okay. How how did y'all used to make a fire in the in the wood stove? 888: How did we used to make a fire? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: Well We didn't we didn't we didn't have gas but one thing we used to do is put the wood inside the stove first and sometimes We'd have some coal away from the stove we'd put a little coal all off in the stove. interviewer: Yes. 888: And then make it burn like that. But we would never we would never fool with it. My mother she'd tell us not to mess with it because we'd get the house caught on fire. interviewer: Mm-hmm 888: And my father used to do the same thing. interviewer: {X} names of that uh kinda small wood, the {D: stir fry wood} Did you ever have small kinda wood that 888: Kindlings kindling interviewer: Yeah okay. Um Let's see. Um what do you call that place right in front of the Tell me about this one thing. Was it a was it a stove like with iron? Or was it a fireplace or what was it? 888: It was just a plain uh regular fire stove where you can just put inside it was small it wasn't too big you know. And the pipes would go up where the smoke would come outside to the chimney. interviewer: Oh what do you call that kind of just a pipe? Or you call it anything else? 888: I call it a Just call it a Smoke pipe. interviewer: The what? 888: Smoke pipe. interviewer: Okay okay. What do you call that black stuff that gets stuck in the pipes? And the The smoke leaves? 888: What do I call it? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: Uh interviewer: You run your finger up in there and you get black all over your finger? 888: {X} {NS} Black {X} interviewer: Okay. Uh You know when the fire burns down and you have to rake that stuff out? Or shovel that stuff out? What do you call that? 888: Ashes. interviewer: Um Have you ever seen um On a fireplace And sometimes the little shelf-like thing that sticks out from the wood burn stove It's the area in front of the stove or in front of the fireplace that's just flat you know the bricks 888: It sticks out? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: I just call it a The front Front burning bar interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard it called a hearth {C: pronounced hair-th} or a hearth? 888: No I haven't. interviewer: Okay. Um In a fireplace You know sometimes there's an iron sort of thing that you put the wood on? Do you have a name for that? 888: What you put the wood on? interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: No. #1 I don't. # interviewer: #2 Okay. # Um Oh up above the fireplace sometimes there's a {D: you know} I'm just talking about a regular fireplace set in the wall, now Not talking about a stove. There's a there's a thing where you can put {X} glasses, pictures, and vases and stuff like that on there. Decorating things. 888: A wood {D: nock} shelf. interviewer: A what? 888: A wood {D: nock} shelf is that what you're talking about? interviewer: Yeah yeah. Well yeah. 888: Where you can put different things that you want to put on it? interviewer: Yeah. 888: That's what I call a wood {D: nock} shelf. interviewer: Okay. Um Sometimes people When they use a A fireplace or stove for heat They put a great big log in the back and it'd be green sometimes and You know it's like bigger than the rest of it and it reflects heat back out into the room So it'd be warm like when you got up the next {D: minute}. Do you have a uh name for that log? 888: {NW} Green wood. interviewer: Okay. {NS} In some places where they have pine trees but I don't know Do y'all have pine trees down here? 888: Yeah. Pine that's on most of the pine trees I see are Near when Christmas comes and interviewer: Yeah. 888: They have some we'd get a big pine tree. interviewer: Yeah. 888: But you don't hardly see them around mostly It's they're around but I don't never hardly see 'em no more because Only time I see 'em is when Christmas comes I like the smell of them you know. interviewer: Yeah. They smell good. 888: #1 Yeah # interviewer: #2 Have you ever heard anybody # splitting one open You know that they just cut down and they get the wood out of the middle cause it's already kinda soft? And they can just make a fire right from that? 888: No. interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} In In the dining room. You know um You have a table and what? 888: We had a table and a few chairs And interviewer: Okay. 888: A few other things like dishes and stuff like that. interviewer: Okay okay. Okay What do you call that uh long piece of furniture that you have maybe in the living room that 3 or 4 people can sit on? 888: Couch. interviewer: Okay. Any other names for it? 888: Uh Sofa interviewer: Uh huh. Is there a difference between a couch and a sofa? 888: Well I wouldn't say difference I say the same. interviewer: Okay um What do you call the piece of furniture in the bedroom That has drawers in it and you put your clothes in the drawers? 888: Dresser. interviewer: Okay. Anything else? 888: Uh chifforobe interviewer: Okay. Is there a difference between a dresser and a {X}? 888: Yeah. {X} A chifforobe well You can put you know different clothes and stuff in. {NS} And I don't know you can put things in it that You really wanna put in it that you don't wanna get misplaced. interviewer: Yeah uh {X} case have drawers or Does it have a place to hang things does it have both or 888: No, a chifforobe has drawers. interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And the way you put your things in like sheets or rags or something like that you know Towels and A dresser is you know Where you keep your things in that you wanna put in and stuff like that you Get ready to put on or something like that. interviewer: Uh huh uh huh. Which one's bigger? 888: Which one's bigger? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: I'd say the chifforobe is the biggest. interviewer: Uh huh. Okay. Um {NS} Okay tables and chairs and sofa and all that stuff you'd call 888: Uh some things I'd call antiques Sofa like some chairs was antique and sofa I call it you know just sofa chair #1 things like that. # interviewer: #2 Okay. # If you wanted to buy some of that stuff what kind of store would you go to? 888: Uh {X} furniture I guess. interviewer: Okay. Um. You know those things At the window that you pull down that shut out the light that are on rollers? 888: Uh shades I mean #1 Shades # interviewer: #2 What? # Okay. Okay uh {NS} What'd you call little A little room off the bedroom it's hardly big enough to call it a room really. Where you hang your clothes. 888: Uh closet? A little closet where you can put stuff in or A little attic or something like that. interviewer: Okay. Um If you didn't have a Built-in closet like that You might have one that Was movable you know that you can move around? A piece of furniture of some sort? 888: Uh-huh interviewer: What would you call that? 888: One you can move around something that you can move around that you have your stuff in? interviewer: Uh huh. That you hang things in. 888: Uh I would call that a taly. A taly. interviewer: A what? 888: A taly. interviewer: How do you spell that? 888: T-A-L-Y I guess. Taly. interviewer: Huh what does it what does it look like exactly? 888: Well there's a little thing where you can push push around and you got things where you can hang your suits up in like that And take it to room Room to room stuff like that. interviewer: Uh huh uh huh. Okay. Um {NS} What do you call the room at the top of the house that's just underneath the roof? 888: The room at the top of the house that's up under the roof? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: The attic. interviewer: Mm-kay. And Uh A little room off of the kitchen that you might store stuff canned goods And extra dishes Stuff like that? 888: Uh {NS} Canned goods shelf or The shelf. interviewer: Mm-kay. Okay what if it was a whole little Little room thing? What What would you call it? 888: Little room thing? interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I'd say the storeroom or the closet. interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh what would you a {X} work with things that you're about to put away? 888: Right now you know just throw away? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: Old bicycle rims and Things in the house or you want me to talk about things on the outside? interviewer: Yeah just {X} have a name for. All that stuff. 888: For all the junk I just call it junk. interviewer: Okay. Um What would you call a room That's used that's used To store odds and ends? 888: Storeroom. interviewer: Mm-kay. And {NS} Um Speaking of daily housework, you'd say a woman does what every morning? 888: Clean up and cook and make up the beds and A little of everything around the house. interviewer: Okay. What do you call a thing you sweep with? 888: A broom. interviewer: Okay. And You call this thing here {D: That} you open you'd call that a 888: Door. interviewer: Okay. Now. If if that was open, and there was a broom This door was open you know And there was a broom right here You'd say the broom was what {D: on} the door? 888: The broom was blocking the door. interviewer: Uh No it's really like it The door's already open, you know? The door I mean the broom is There. So you'd say "Go get that broom, it's" What the door? 888: It's right at the door. interviewer: Okay. Or um You probably couldn't see it cause the door was open in front of it 888: Um {X} Watch out for that broom in the back door. interviewer: Okay. Whoops. 888: #1 It's blocking the door. # interviewer: #2 But where # But if you were if you were gonna try and tell somebody {D: and} you simply couldn't see it, you know? And you wanted somebody to get it and you They didn't know where it was and you were trying to #1 tell them # 888: #2 Oh # Go look in the back of the door for the broom. interviewer: Okay. Um Okay if all your clothes are dirty, In order to get them ready to wear you're probably gonna have to do the what? 888: Washing machine or the wash. interviewer: Okay. And After you wash 'em, you're gonna have to do what {D: to 'em}? 888: After I wash 'em, I dry 'em. interviewer: Uh huh and then, if they're all wrinkled up, you'll have to 888: Iron them. interviewer: Okay. And The the washing and ironing together you'd probably call the 888: The washing and ironing together? interviewer: Uh huh. There's one word for those three things? 888: Clean. interviewer: Okay. Um What do you call the the place where a bachelor might take his shirts to be done? On You know, the 888: Will you repeat that? interviewer: Well, since a bachelor doesn't have, uh, anybody to To wash and iron his shirts for him, he'd probably take 'em 888: Oh, to the cleaners. interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} If he had a two-story house, how--what would you call the thing that you get from the First story to the second story on? 888: Stairs, elevator or escalator. interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} Okay uh You said stairs first. Now, what would you call these things we're sitting on? 888: Steps. interviewer: Okay. Um Have you ever seen Like {NS} Things like this that go up the outside of the building 888: #1 Yes. # interviewer: #2 to the second story? # 888: Yes. interviewer: Kay which would you call those? Would you call those steps or stairs? 888: Stairs. interviewer: Okay. 888: On the outside. interviewer: Mm-kay. Um {NS} What what do you call that little thing that's usually built just outside of the door of the house that you walk on to get {X}? 888: Oh the step mat? A mat? interviewer: Um Well, the whole thing, really. This this really isn't one. But it's a concrete slab, usually, that takes a good step up to to get into the house. And sometimes it's got a little roof and {NS} You'd call it 888: A shed. interviewer: Um 888: Somewhere over the roof? {NS} interviewer: {D: Oh} sometimes Okay it's attached to the outside of the house and sometimes They're screened in. 888: Uh huh. interviewer: And sometimes they're not and they call it a screened-in what? 888: Door? interviewer: Um {X} People still do sit outside when it's hot at night and evening, you know 888: Oh, when you sit on the outside? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: What do you call that? interviewer: Yeah. 888: Uh I just say it's sitting on the outside to get some air. {NS} Uh #1 Sitting on the # interviewer: #2 Okay. # 888: patio. interviewer: Okay. Now, could you explain to me what exactly 'patio' is? 888: Patio is a place where you get to go out and sit down and give a little party or something like that or something that's just real concrete, just concrete interviewer: Uh huh. 888: And, you know there's not no mud or nothing around cause it'd be you know just plain concrete. interviewer: Yes. Well, does a patio have a roof, or not? 888: Uh no. A patio has no roof. interviewer: Okay. What if it was something like that but it had a roof, Then what would you call it? 888: I said uh Shed-in patio. interviewer: Mm-kay. What uh what's a porch? What would you call a porch? 888: A porch is something that you can sit on in the outside and stay out of the rain and stuff like that. You can sit outside and chat talk to other people and your neighbors or something like that interviewer: Uh huh. Um Would you call it anything different if it goes like all the way across the front of the house, And all the way down one side, anything like that? 888: No, I would just say porch. interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} Okay, if the door is open, and you don't want it that way, You might tell somebody to get up and what the door? 888: Close the door. interviewer: Okay. Or 888: Shut the door. interviewer: Okay. Um Okay, have you ever seen {X} on the outside of the house? I'm looking for some I don't see any I can't tell if that house is that way or not. I can't see it well. But, like, the boards are You know, they kinda overlap each other like this, The top overlaps the next board down, like that Do you have a name for that? 888: Uh, grooves. I'd say grooves. interviewer: Mm-kay. Anything else? 888: Uh No. interviewer: Mm-kay. Um You might say, {NS} "Every day I take my car and" what into town? 888: Drive into town. interviewer: Okay. And "yesterday I took my car and" 888: Drove into town. interviewer: Okay. And "every day, for months, I had" what into town? 888: Repeat, will you will you repeat that please? interviewer: Okay. {D: You'd just} use the same word "Every day, for months, I had taken my car and" what into town? 888: Drove. interviewer: Okay. Um What do you call the part of the house that covers the top? 888: Roof. interviewer: Okay. And What do you call little things along the edge of the roof that that carry water off? 888: Shingles. interviewer: Okay. These are Uh These are not over the whole roof they're just {X} I'm looking for some I don't see 'em 888: What are you talking bout roof pipes? interviewer: Yeah. 888: Where the water comes on the side? interviewer: Yeah. Okay. 888: What do I really call them? interviewer: Yeah. 888: I just call 'em interviewer: #1 What you say # 888: #2 Water # You know, water drainers. interviewer: Okay. Alright what'd you call it the first time, roof pipes? 888: Yeah. interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} Have you ever seen a You know what a {D: ale} is on a house? 888: A L? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: Yeah. interviewer: Okay. It's it's like You know part of the house that sticks out? 888: The front of it, like the roof, or just shaped like an L. interviewer: Okay yeah. Right, okay, well when the house part and the ale come together, sometimes they both have a Peaked roof and there's a There's a low place like this. Where the where they join. What do you call that? 888: {NS} Where they the low piece where they join? interviewer: Uh huh. A low just place in the roof. You have a name for that? 888: Square. interviewer: What? 888: It's a square. interviewer: Well, it's more like a v-shape. 888: Triangle? interviewer: Yeah sort of like that. 888: And it and it joins to the other part of the house? interviewer: Yeah mm-hmm. 888: And what do I call it? interviewer: Yeah. You may not have a name for it I don't know. {NS} 888: Uh I don't think I could call it nothing less, you know I understand it. interviewer: Okay. Alright {D: listen} Um I don't have a name for that either. I mean, I just don't spend much of my time talking about that kind of thing, you know? 888: Yeah, I understand, yeah. interviewer: Um Okay, if you have a little building outside your house, Where you kept gardening tools and stuff like that, what would you call it? 888: I call it a shed room or a store room in the back. interviewer: Okay. If it's a Okay that thing that we just talked about Would it be attached to the house, or or not attached? 888: Uh if it wasn't attached to the house, it would be a garage. {NS} #1 And if it # interviewer: #2 If it was # or was not? 888: If if if it is not No say if it is not attached to the house, It's a garage. interviewer: Okay. 888: And If it is attached to the house, interviewer: Mm. 888: That's a storeroom. interviewer: Mm-kay alright. What if it's something like a storeroom, but it's smaller than a garage? 888: Smaller than a garage? interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Uh {NS} I'd say tool tool shed. interviewer: Okay. Um What would you call Now, what would you call an outdoor toilet? 888: Outdoor outdoor toilet? I would just call it a {NS} An outdoor toilet. interviewer: Okay. Okay, do you know the joking name story? 888: Shit house shit house uh interviewer: Okay. Anything else? 888: Uh, that's the only thing I know outdoor toilet {X} I know. interviewer: Okay okay Um What kind of buildings would you have on farms? 888: What kind of buildings? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: Uh farm house interviewer: What was that last thing? 888: The farmhouse. interviewer: Okay. 888: And {NS} Goat pen, cow pen. Stuff like that. interviewer: Okay. Um let's see. {NS} Where would you keep the horses and cows and stuff like that? 888: In the shed. interviewer: Okay. Is there a {D: the} bigger building? Where you might keep 'em or you might keep hay in it too and stuff like that? What'd you call that building? 888: I call it a barn where you keep the hay and stuff in. interviewer: Okay. Um Have you ever heard of a Separate building where you might store corn? 888: Where I would store corn at? A separate building? I'd call it a the mill interviewer: Okay. Okay, uh Have you ever heard of a building, or a part of a building, Where you store grain? {NS} 888: A hen house. interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh {D: You ever hear it called} a granary {C: pronounced gran-ery} or granary {C: pronounced grain-ery}? 888: Grain interviewer: What? 888: Grain. interviewer: Okay. Um{NS} The upper part of the barn you'd call the what? 888: The upper the upper part of the barn? {NS} The windmill, I guess. interviewer: Where where they put hay, usually. 888: What do they put it in? #1 On top # interviewer: #2 Uh-huh # 888: {X} On top of the attic {X} Something like the attic but {X} interviewer: Okay, okay. Um {NS} Let's see. Okay, usually there are there is one Like you said, there's one farmhouse, But sometimes there might be two, in which case You'd say there are two what? 888: Farmhouses. interviewer: What? 888: There are two farmhouses. interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} Okay, you might pile hay up outside the barn in a What? 888: Stack. interviewer: Okay. Um Have you ever seen Uh, hay Covered with, like the got four poles and And they kind of slide in grooves And they cover haystacks with {X}. Have you ever seen anything like that? 888: No, I haven't. interviewer: Okay. Um When they first cut the hay, They used to Kinda rake it up in small piles. And do you know what they called the little piles? {NS} 888: All I know they used to call it uh Dip piles I guess. Dip piles. interviewer: What? 888: Dip dip piles. interviewer: How how do you spell that? 888: D-I-P-P-A interviewer: What does that mean? 888: You know, this would be a There would be a dip on the ground or something and they rake it up. #1 It's part of the dip-piles. # interviewer: #2 Um # Okay, okay. And you've heard people say that {X}? 888: I heard people say it once Oh but I don't ever hear it too much often. interviewer: Mm-kay, okay. Um Have you ever heard of {NS} Oh, here lemme ask you this first. What all kinda animals would you have on the farm? {NS} 888: Goats. Hogs. Chickens. And, um, horses. Dogs. And That's everything. That you know. {X} interviewer: Okay what would you get milk from? 888: A cow. interviewer: Mm-kay. Um Sometimes, beside the barn, They have a special shelter for the cows to get under when it's raining. Have you ever heard anything like that? 888: Uh No interviewer: Okay, uh What would you call a place where you keep the A place where you keep the horses? {NW} 888: The barn house. interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} Where where where would they milk the cows? 888: Where would they milk them at? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: They would milk them inside the barn house. interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 Inside the barn # interviewer: Okay. Uh have you ever of anybody milking them outside the barn? {C: car tires screeching} 888: Yes, I have. I've heard somebody do that. interviewer: Okay. Um I just asked you if uh {X} had ever milked the cows outside, right? 888: Yes. They do milk 'em on the outside, too. interviewer: Okay, do you know of a special place Where they might just rub off, to Milk the cows, Have you ever heard of a special place like that? 888: On the cow? interviewer: Um Usually just outside the barn. A kinda makeshift sorta place 888: No, I don't I don't know. interviewer: Mm-kay. Um Okay, you said they had hogs? 888: Pigs, cows, chickens interviewer: Okay. Okay what's the difference between a hog and a pig? 888: What's the difference from them? interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Well uh from a pig you can get bacon and from a hog you can't get bacon. interviewer: Oh. How come? 888: How come? interviewer: Uh huh. I didn't know that. 888: Well, uh, All I know that A pig has bacon and a hog has like this other kind of meat like That Rib- ribby kinda meat. interviewer: What? 888: It's ribs Called that's called call the meat called ribs meat That's all I know. That's all. interviewer: Okay. Um Have you ever of a ever heard of a shoat? 888: A shoat? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: No, I haven't. interviewer: Mm-kay. Um Where would you where would you keep the hogs and pigs? Did you tell me? 888: Uh, the hogs and the pi- #1 Pigs? # interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Yes. 888: Well, I would keep 'em in a pen. Or in the shelter. interviewer: Okay what kind of a pen 888: A pen where they can't get out and you know, run run all over the place. interviewer: Mm-hmm 888: Stuff like that. Keep 'em boxed in. interviewer: Okay. Um It used to be when people, before they had refrigerators and stuff, They'd take their milk and their butter and they'd put it Um, like, In a can and put it down in a stream, and keep it cool, you know? You have a word for something like that? 888: To keep it cool from melting I guess interviewer: Yeah. Yeah, you don't you have a word, for something like that? 888: No, I don't. interviewer: Okay. What, um, What would you call The milk company here in town? I mean, other than the name of it. What would you call it? 888: The Borton's company? interviewer: Yeah. Uh huh, other than the name, What would you call it? 888: Milk company, I guess. interviewer: Uh huh. Okay, you might call it a creamery, Or you might call it a 888: Dairy. interviewer: Mm-kay. Okay, um Sometimes there's a place around the barn where you might Look at cows and the mules and other animals, Just walk around, you know it's a fairly Small place that would be fenced in. What would you call that place? 888: I'd say The running running room. #1 exercise room # interviewer: #2 Okay. Okay. # Okay And then where would What would you call {X} What would you call a larger place, That had grass and stuff, Where you might let them out to graze? 888: What would I call it? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: I'd say Grazing Grazing field. interviewer: Okay. Would you ever call it a pasture or a lot or a range? 888: I'd call it a pasture. interviewer: Okay. Um You know when they used to raise cotton? They had to, uh They had to make it grow better, They had to go through and kinda thin it out. You know like, Take up every other plant, or something like that. Do you know what that's called? 888: Picking up all the plants. I just say Fertilize it and Make it interviewer: Mm-kay. Okay. Sometimes they had to cut certain plants out {X} 888: Weeds. interviewer: Okay. Okay, um {NS} Uh, cotton and corn You'd probably say grow in a what? 888: Garden. interviewer: Okay. Or, if it was bigger 888: Field. interviewer: What? 888: Field. interviewer: Okay. Uh, and tobacco is grown in, uh, 888: Field interviewer: Mm-kay and What kinds of things would you say are grown in a patch? 888: Cotton. Stuff like that and Tomatoes #1 onions # interviewer: #2 Okay. # Okay. Uh, what's the difference between field and patch? 888: A field and a patch? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: Well, the definition of a field is is you know, You can see a field but you can't hardly see a patch because it'd be A field you can see because it's not too thick. And a patch is kinda cruddy. {NS} interviewer: Uh okay, okay. Um is there any difference in the size? 888: No, I wouldn't say different on the size but the way it looks is different From the way it looks the field and the and the patch. interviewer: Okay. Tell me some more, I don't quite understand. 888: Well a field you can see, you know, The things on the field which are growing and a patch, you know, {NW} Like it's cabbage, you can't hardly see it because it's so close together. And it'd be a lot of stuff so close together that'd be growing. You can't hardly see what you got. interviewer: Okay. Okay, I get it. Okay. What all kinds of fences are there? Around here? 888: Uh they got lawn fences, and they got brick fences, they got wooden fences they got interviewer: Yeah. Okay, what kinds of what would you call There's a kind of wooden fence that has Usually, they're painted white. And they have, uh, {X}. And, uh, {X}. The they're pointed at the top end of the fence {X} or something. 888: Picket fence? interviewer: Okay. Okay, um {NS} Okay what other kinds of fences are there? 888: Other kinds of fences? interviewer: Yes. 888: Well, they got Wooden fences, they got, you know, iron fences, they got The barbed wire fences interviewer: What? What kinda fence? 888: Barbed wire. interviewer: Okay. Yeah. 888: And you know They got Say, aluminum fences. interviewer: Uh huh. What do you have different names for aluminum fences? 888: Steel #1 steel fences. # interviewer: #2 Okay. # What about the kind of fence that's usually {X} it's woven, And it has, you know, um, holes in it about this big About 3 inches or 4 inches across 888: What kinda fence would I call it interviewer: Yeah. Uh-huh. 888: Well I'd say I wouldn't call it I'd just say I've seen brick fences like that. But, you know, interviewer: Uh huh. 888: That's all I know. Brick fences I don't have a name for them but I just call it a brick fence. interviewer: Okay. Brick fence. Uh, you know You know the kind that has a The the wires like that, And there's a pole at the top and the the wire sticks up And if you try and climb it 888: Oh, barbed wire fence? interviewer: Well No, {X}. It's like barbed wire and that it sticks up and it'll #1 Scratch you. # 888: #2 Oh thorns? # Thorns? There's thorns on the edge of the fence? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: This one like this? {NW} There's one around and it goes up like This way and another piece going that way. interviewer: Yeah. 888: I call it the thorns. On the end of the fence. interviewer: Thorns? #1 On the end of the fence? # 888: #2 Yeah. # interviewer: But you don't have a name for the whole fence? 888: No. interviewer: Okay okay. Um Let's see. {NS} Have you ever seen a kind of fence that's made out of, uh, Split rails? And the the fence {D: and that stuff is laid kinda} zig-zag fashion, Like this? You ever seen a fence like that? 888: Zig-zag fashion? interviewer: Yeah. 888: You said going like that and then going up and going up interviewer: Yeah, well, like, You're looking straight down on it. From the air. You know how it goes ch-ch-ch-ch-ch like that. 888: Yes, I seen a fence like that before. interviewer: What would you call it? 888: I'd call it a Horizontal fence. interviewer: Okay. Um Okay, when you have a barbed wire fence, Uh, You go dig holes for the 888: Poles. #1 For the holes and # interviewer: #2 Okay. # 888: Poles interviewer: Okay, what's another Word for poles? 888: Another word for poles? interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Well, uh The only word I can say is I just say poles. {NS} interviewer: Okay. Uh {X} 888: Yeah a storm is drizzling now. interviewer: Are you saying what P-O-L, Is that what 888: P-O-L-E. interviewer: Yeah, okay. Um Oh, okay. I think I don't know what what you think, But I think of a pole as being some tall, like, Telephone pole? You know? And And then I think of something short, As being called, well it also starts with a P, But it's I call it something else. {D: Have} you have another name for that? 888: Do I have another name for it? interviewer: Yeah, instead of pole? 888: A stump. interviewer: Okay. Okay. 888: {NW} interviewer: {X} Oh yeah. What would you call A fence, or a wall, That's made of loose stone or rock that you might remove from a field? 888: Loose stone gravel. {NS} Gravel. interviewer: Okay Uh the what would you call the s-- the wall, Or the fence that you'd make out of this stuff? 888: What'd I call it? interviewer: Mm. 888: Cement. interviewer: Mm-kay. Um What what word would you use to describe your best dishes? Your most best dishes? 888: China dishes. interviewer: Okay. So if you had a egg made out of that, you'd call it 888: An egg made out of it? interviewer: Uh huh. You got china dishes, And then you got {D: Something egg} 888: Egg egg dishes yes. interviewer: No no they're not dishes, They're made out of the same stuff but The china 888: Dishes? interviewer: What? Not dishes, egg. {C: children playing in background} 888: Oh, china egg. interviewer: Mm-kay. Alright. {NS} Um {NS} {C: Laughs} Uh What would you use to carry water in? 888: A pail. interviewer: Mm-kay. Would it be made out of wood or metal? 888: Uh wood. {X} interviewer: {X} 888: Hey will y'all interviewer: Y'all keep the door closed now, okay? {C: addressing screaming/playing children} 888: I don't know. interviewer: {NW} {NW} 888: {X} interviewer: Okay. What would you Um Did I ask you if it would be made out of wood or metal? 888: Yeah and I told you wood. interviewer: Okay. Um Would you call it something else if it was made out of metal? 888: Uh {NW: Child screaming in background}. Wooden pail. #1 I mean # interviewer: #2 Okay. # {X} metal. 888: Metal? I would say {NW} No I wouldn't call it anything else. interviewer: Mm-kay. What if it was made out of plastic? 888: Plastic? I'd I'd call it {NW} {C: Children in background} Plastic pail. interviewer: Okay. 888: Hey keep the door closed. interviewer: {X} Um Okay, do you ever heard of a Of a, a pail, or bucket, Or something like that, Like, that you might keep in the kitchen, Where you throw scraps that you can use for the pigs? 888: Hey, you don't have to pay me a-- {C: Addressing other person(s)} interviewer: Okay. What what would you What would you call {NW} {C: Screaming children} A kind of bucket that or {X} That you might that you might keep in the kitchen And throw scraps in For the pigs. 888: I call it a Slop slop can. interviewer: Okay. Okay, um What all kinds of cooking utensils are there? 888: {NS} Cooking utensils? Um {NS} {C: Child interrupting} interviewer: Keep the door closed. 888: Hey, get out, shut that door closed and get outta here boy. {NS} {X} {NW} Cooking pans interviewer: Okay. 888: Cooking pots. Electric skillets. And Just about everything that you can interviewer: Okay, what would you fry eggs in? {NW} 888: A frying pan. interviewer: Mm-kay. What's it made out of? 888: What's it made out of? {X} It's made out of, uh, Just a plain skillet That's round, and {NW} It's black. interviewer: Okay is there any difference between a frying pan and a skillet? 888: No, it's the same. interviewer: Okay. Um What are {D: they} made out of? Of a heavy iron or is it made out of a wooden {X} or what? 888: It'll be, just Uh, thin, It'll be made out of, uh, Aluminum steel {X} Some parts is made out of Steel. interviewer: Okay. Um What would you call something that's big and black That you have out in the backyard that you might use to heat up water? 888: A big steel steel pot. Steel. interviewer: Okay and uh another word for pot? 888: Uh Another word for pot? interviewer: Yep. 888: Uh Can. interviewer: Okay. And if it was If you were gonna fix tea, You might call it a tea 888: Teapot. interviewer: Okay or a tea what? {X} Anything else? 888: Tea can. interviewer: What? 888: Tea can. interviewer: Okay. Um What would you call The container that you might put cut flowers in in the house? 888: What kind of container I would call it interviewer: Yeah. 888: Uh I'd call it a Flower can, or Something that I could store, you know, Different stuff in like that. interviewer: Okay. {C: blank audio} I'm talking about the kind of thing that would be, uh, Um A nice kinda thing, you know, glass Usually Or pottery and it would be shaped kinda like this And you put flowers in it 888: A mold? interviewer: A what? 888: I'd call it a mold. A vase. {NW} {C: Children playing} A vase, a mold. interviewer: Uh, what was the last thing you said? 888: A vase, uh, a mold. interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 Mold. # interviewer: How do you spell that? 888: Uh, M-O {X} S-E I guess. interviewer: Oh 888: #1 {D: M-O-R-S-E-S.} # interviewer: #2 Okay. # Okay. And how do you spell the the other thing you said? 888: Vase? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: V-A-S-E. interviewer: Okay. Um What all {NS} Okay, what would you call The stuff that you you set the table with, For supper, that you put beside the plate? 888: What would I call it? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: Uh Napkin. #1 Forks # interviewer: #2 Uh-huh # 888: Spoons. interviewer: Yeah what else? 888: And plates. interviewer: Okay. Forks, spoon, and 888: Plate. interviewer: Okay. If If you had Steak, that wasn't very tender you'd have to put out steak 888: Sauce. interviewer: Okay, or To cut it, You'd have to put out steak 888: {NS} {C: Children playing} {NS} Knife steak knife. #1 Steak knife. # interviewer: #2 What? # Okay. And if you had to put out more than one you'd have to have steak If you 888: Steak more than one? interviewer: Yeah, just more than one. 888: Steak steak knives. interviewer: Okay. Um Let's see After somebody washes the dishes, You might say, after she washes the dishes, then she what them in in cold water in hot water? 888: Uh, rinses the dishes. interviewer: Okay. Um What do you call the cloth or the rag that you use {D: in} washing {C: background noise // unintelligible speaking} Okay, what do you call the cloth or the rag that you use in washing dishes? 888: Dish rag interviewer: Okay. And what do you call the cloth or the rag that you use in drying dishes? 888: The uh Kitchen cloth. interviewer: Mm-kay. And what would you call the small square of terry cloth that you use to bathe your face? 888: I call it Just a regular Rag or a cloth. interviewer: Okay. Uh After taking a bath, You dry yourself off with a 888: Towel. interviewer: Mm-kay. And If you go in the kitchen and turn on the water, You turn the water on at the 888: Faucet. interviewer: Okay. And if it's outside where you hook up the hose, You have to turn on the 888: Faucet. interviewer: Okay. And, um, {NS} {X} {NW} Uh, let's see It used to be when they bought {X} Uh, flour, In real big quantities, They'd buy them in these big, round, wooden things that you'd call a bid, wooden 888: Barrel. interviewer: Okay. And, um, Something that's like a barrel, but that You They they have, uh, That beer comes in, sometimes, {D: now} you'd call a beer what? 888: A keg. interviewer: Okay. Now. If you've got a keg, It has a little {X} that you can turn on To get the beer out. What would you call that little thing on it? 888: Uh Stopper. Plug, or interviewer: Okay, this is to get it out with. 888: To get it out? interviewer: Uh huh. 888: The faucet. interviewer: Mm-kay. Alright. Um You might say, It was so cold last night that our water pipes 888: Busted. interviewer: Okay. And Uh I hope they won't what again tonight? 888: Freeze. interviewer: Okay. Or using busted 888: Bust. Um break interviewer: Use it use the same word. 888: Busted. interviewer: Okay. You but tonight I hope they won't 888: Burst. interviewer: Okay. Um If you were just gonna use Okay go on back to busted. 888: #1 Burst # interviewer: #2 {X} # Okay if you were gonna use that same word, you might say Uh Tonight, I hope they won't 888: Freeze to death #1 Freeze. # interviewer: #2 {X} # If you were gonna use busted. 888: Oh, bust. interviewer: Okay. Alright. And, then you might say, uh, They have What many times before? 888: Bust before. interviewer: Mm-kay. Um {NS} Used to be you could buy glasses in pretty large quantities, And do you a name that they could uh, The thing that they came in, that the molasses came in? 888: Uh, barrel. interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard it called a stand? 888: No. interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} Say you had a salt box or something That didn't have a spout. And you'd have to Uh Get something to pour it into something smaller, {D: And you might now} Let me see. Okay. You'd have to get something That was shaped like If I could get it to do it Yeah. Like that. And there and pour the salt in like this to get it to come out Down here and the {X} over there. What would you call this thing? 888: I would call it a spout. Sifter. interviewer: Oh Okay. Or Would you ever call it a funnel or a tunnel? 888: I'd call it a funnel. interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} {C: Scream/shout in background} What would You use to Urge horses to go faster if you're riding in a buggy? {NS} Interviewer: What would you use To urge horses to go faster if you're riding in a? 888: A whip. Interviewer: A what? 888: A whip. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um and if you went and bought some fruit at the at the grocery store, the grocer, would put them in a? 888: Grocery bag. Interviewer: Okay or uh what What would the bag be made out of? 888: Paper. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NW} Sometimes you see fifty pounds of flour and {NW} in a, uh, big thing made of cloth. {NW} And used to be they used to package, uh, flour in a big, uh, Sack or a bag that was made out of cloth. What would you call that? 888: {NW} Uh dumping sack. Interviewer: A what? 888: A dumping sack. Interviewer: Okay. What is that, exactly? Would you ex--would you describe it for me? {NS} 888: Well, uh, that's the regular sack where you can put like, things in that you {X} that don't you know it don't tear too easily. Interviewer: Yeah, yeah. Is it made out of smooth cloth or real rough cloth? Or? 888: Rough cloth. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Is this the same kind of sack that That you might put feed or manure or seed or something in? 888: Yes. #1 {D: Near the} # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # 888: {D: same.} Interviewer: Okay. Okay you have any other names for it? 888: {NS} No, call it, some would call it a bean sack. Interviewer: A what? 888: A bean sack. And. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 888: Something. Interviewer: Have you ever heard it called a uh a burlap bag, or a burlap sack, or a tow sack, or a croker sack, Or any of those? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Um. {NW} Okay. What would you call you're gonna love this what would you call the amount of corn that you might take to the mill at one time to be ground? 888: {NW} #1 {D: On the time} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 888: to be ground? Interviewer: Yeah. {NW} Do you have a name for that? 888: I'd say {D: say I don't know} {X} I don't know. No I don't. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Um. You might say, on a wagon, the guy didn't have a full load, he just had a? What? 888: Half a load. Interviewer: Okay. For for a half a load or partial load, would you ever call it a jag? You ever heard that? 888: No. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. {NW} Say you came out of the grocery store and you had {NW} uh {NW} three {NW} three bags of of groceries like this and it was just about all you could handle and you'd say, I had a real arm? {NW} What? 888: Full of groceries. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Say the whole thing for me, would you? 888: A whole armful of groceries. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If a light burns out in an electric lamp you'd have to put in a new? 888: Light bulb {C: Pronounced "light bub"}. Interviewer: Okay. And, if you carry out the washing to hang it up on the line you'd carry it out in a? 888: Uh buggy, or Big sheet, I guess. Interviewer: Okay and if you didn't have a sheet, you might have a {C: background noise} {NS} Plastic thing or a? {C: background noise} {NS} 888: Uh, washing to washing, I mean. Interviewer: Um. Sometimes it's made of straw, or or kinda yeah, kind of a straw and they're woven? 888: Uh, them woven baskets? {C: background noise} Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um {NS} on barrels, you got wooden things that go up and down like this. And then you've got circular metal things, like this, that hold the the wooden things in place? Now, what do you call those metal things? 888: {NS} The stock. Interviewer: The what? 888: The stock that's all I know. Interviewer: Have you ever did, maybe of? #1 {X} # 888: #2 I heard of the I heard of the stock but I don't really know what the # I just say the frame. Interviewer: Okay. 888: The frame or the stock. Interviewer: On a on a basketball basket, you've got the basket part, and it hangs from a rim or you might call a rim the what? 888: Goal. Interviewer: The what? 888: The goal. Interviewer: Okay. Um anything else you might call the rim? {NS} 888: Uh free throw. Free throw line shoot. The hoop. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Um {NW} what would you put in the top of a bottle so that the liquid wouldn't spill out? 888: A stopper or a lid. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If it was a wine bottle, you'd probably put a what in it? 888: A cork? Interviewer: Okay. And a can a cork wh- what's a cork made out of? Uh what? 888: A cork. What it's made out of? Interviewer: Yes. 888: It's made out of {X} {C: background noise} real thin-like wood. Interviewer: #1 Like what? # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Say it again? 888: Real li- thin-like wood. Interviewer: Okay. Okay can it be made out of anything else? 888: Uh, yes. #1 Rubber. # Interviewer: #2 {D: Like?} # 888: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 888: A rubber cork. Interviewer: Okay, okay. Um. What do you call the little musical instrument that children play, and you hold it like this? 888: A harmonica. Interviewer: Okay. Uh, what about a musical instrument that you hold between your teeth and you pick it with your fingers and it twangs? 888: What do you call that? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: {NS} You put it between your teeth? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I don't know that. Interviewer: Mm-kay. What do you use to pound nails in with? 888: A hammer. Interviewer: Okay. And, if you have a wagon and two horses, {NW} there's a long wooden piece that runs from the wagon between the horses, what do you call that? 888: Uh. {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 888: What do you call it, huh? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Between the two horses well I say the divider. Interviewer: Uh okay. Uh have have you ever called it that before? I mean, uh, would you call it that if you were on a farm or? 888: No, I wouldn't call it #1 that because . # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay. # 888: I know that. Interviewer: You just don't talk about it much. #1 Yeah # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: okay. Um okay, say you have a horse that's pulling a buggy. And before you hitch him up, you have to back him in between two long, wooden things, that stick out from the buggy? 888: {NW} Interviewer: Do you have a name for those things? 888: {D: The guide.} Interviewer: {NW} Okay. Okay, uh {NW} let's see. {NW} Have you do y'all do y'all, uh, have you heard 'em called that, or do you just? You know, does that just seem like a good name for it or? 888: That's all I know a good name for it. Okay, alright. Uh {NW} okay, on a wagon wheel Alright talking about the parts of the wheel you on the inside you got the hub. Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Then you got the spokes coming out and the spokes attach to a wooden thing. Okay, and on the outside of the wooden thing is a usually a metal rim, or something, but what do you call that wooden thing? 888: {NW} The axle. Interviewer: Okay. What um {NS} mm-kay. Uh {NS} Oh, okay on a buggy okay, say you got um {NW} one horse pulling buggy. {NW} And there's a piece, like, like here's the buggy, like that, and here's the horse and you got a piece of wood that runs this way, between the horse and the buggy. That you attach the leather the straps that are on the horse you know to? Do you have a name for that #1 piece of leather? # 888: #2 Oh, the bridle? # Interviewer: Yeah, the and you attach the bridle and the stuff to, well, things that come from the bridle, really, On onto that piece of wood. Do you have a name for that piece of wood? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Now Sometimes you {NW} you got a buggy and you got two horses. And then you've got one of those pieces of wood behind each one of 'em. And then you got another piece of wood behind the the the two horses. Now, do you have a name for that bigger piece of wood back here? {NS} 888: No, I don't. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um Okay, if a man had a load of wood in his wagon and he was just driving along, you'd say he's doing what with that wood? {NS} 888: Mm what what he's what he's doing with it? Interviewer: Yeah, uh-huh. 888: Well he's driving along with it. Interviewer: Okay, would you say he's, uh, {NS} drawing it, or carting it, or hauling it, or? 888: Oh. Well, I would say he was hauling it. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um {NS} okay. Suppose that there was a log that had fallen across the road. 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: You wanted to get it out of the way, it was real heavy. And so you, you hook a chain up to it. {NS} And then you then you pull on the chain, and what the log out of the road? 888: {NS} Pull it out the road. Interviewer: Okay, but not {D: If we already pull on it so and the log, you have to what?} Another word. 888: Another word for {NS} I would just say {NS} {D: pitch it out the road.} Interviewer: Okay. But you can't lift it. It you know, it's real heavy, and you gotta pull it along like this. And you'd say you were what -ing the log? {NS} 888: Hitching. Interviewer: Okay, okay. Hitching? Is that what you said? Okay. Um. Would you ever say, drawing, or dragging, or or either of those? 888: I'll say dragging. Interviewer: Okay, okay. So you'd say, we have to what the log? 888: Drag the log out the road. Interviewer: Okay. And you'd say, yesterday, we what the log out of the road? {NS} 888: #1 Drag the log out the road. # Interviewer: #2 Say? # I'm sorry, what? 888: Yesterday we dragged the log the log out the road. Interviewer: Okay and we had what a log out of the road there before? 888: Uh we had a log out the #1 road. # Interviewer: #2 Uh # I want the same word. Same word. 888: Oh, we dragged the log log out there before. Interviewer: Okay. Now, um in you have to use it in exactly the same sentence so you'd say, #1 many times before, we had # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What? 888: Dragged a log out the road. Interviewer: Okay. Um what do you break the ground up with in the spring if you're gonna plant? 888: A spade and {D: plow.} Interviewer: Okay. Anything else you might call it? You know, it's usually drawn by a horse and you got. #1 Mm. # 888: #2 Spade and # {D:plow, pick plow}. Interviewer: Okay. Or. {NW} Okay and when you when you're doing that, you'd say you're what -ing the field? {NW} 888: Plowing the field. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NW} After you plow, sometimes, they go back over the ground {NW} with something else to break it up finer? {NW} #1 And do you know # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: the name for that thing that they go back over with? 888: No. Interviewer: Have you ever heard it called a harrow {C: pronounced hare-oh}, Or a harrow? {C: pronounced hah-roh} Or a a spring-toothed harrow or harrow {C: different pronunciations} Or a or a gee whiz? 888: No, I sure haven't. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. And, um what do you call the bar that the wheels of a car fit onto? 888: I call it uh the bar that the line and the wheels fit onto? Interviewer: Uh huh. 888: I call it the rod, I guess, the {NS} the axle. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um {NS} what would you call the X-shaped frame that you lay a log across to chop it into stove-lengths? 888: Uh. {C: Yawns} Interviewer: {D: Amen} Me too. 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 888: What do I call it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh, do you have a name for it? 888: No, I don't. Interviewer: Okay. Do you have a name for an A-shaped frame, that you might use to lay the boards across in order to make a table for like a church supper or something like that? {NW} 888: No. {NW} Interviewer: Okay. {C: yawning} {NW} Oh excuse me. 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Alright # {NW} You fix you hair with a comb and a? {NS} 888: Comb and a pick. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Or, uh, I'd probably fix my hair with a comb and a? Interviewer: #1 What? # 888: #2 Brush. # Interviewer: What? 888: Brush. Interviewer: Okay. And if I was using one of those things, you'd say I am what, my hair? 888: Brushing your hair. Interviewer: Okay. And, used to be those old-fashioned raze- straight razors, you know, they'd they'd, uh, sharpen 'em on a leather, what? {NS} 888: Um barber-shop chair. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Yeah, it was attached to the barber-shop chair. It was kinda it was just a leather? 888: {D: Hat.} {D: Leather hat.} Interviewer: Mm-kay okay. Um if {NS} mm, what do you call those things that you put in a, in a revolver? 888: Bullets. Interviewer: Mm-kay. What's another name for it? 888: Shells. Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay, or # 888: #2 Am- # Interviewer: what else? 888: Ammunitions. Interviewer: Okay. You might say they weren't using live ammunition, they were just firing blank whats? 888: Ammunitions. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And but another word. 888: Blank shells. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Or another word? 888: {NW} Blank bullets. Interviewer: Okay. Used to be {NS} when I was in junior high school, we there was this kind of pen that we used it wasn't a ballpoint. And it wasn't a regular fountain pen but uh you'd get these little cylinders of ink. 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And you'd unscrew them in the pen like this. And you'd stick the old cylinder in there, you know, and something punctures it. Then you'd screw the pen back together. And we'd call this something pen. {D: You ever heard?} 888: A f-fountain pen? Interviewer: No, it wasn't wasn't like a wasn't exactly a regular fountain pen it was a. 888: {D: Oh uh} I forgot what you call it but that's the most {D: I don't understand from} a long time ago. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Uh. {NW} I forgot what you call it. {X} Interviewer: Mm-kay. Okay. Um {NS} What do you call uh {NW} playground equipment that {NW} that kids play on and, there's a plank, and one kid gets on the other one end, and one kid gets on the other end and go up and down? 888: See-saw. Interviewer: Okay. And if they're playing on that, you'd say they are what -ing? 888: See-sawing. Interviewer: Okay. Um what would you call a limber plank that's fixed at both ends? Like this, and it's limber. And kids might get on it and jump up and down in the middle? 888: Jumping jump up and down in the middle of it? Interviewer: Yeah, uh-huh. Do you have a name for anything like that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Uh do you have a name for a thing that's kind of homemade, and is a plank and it's anchored in the middle to a stump, or to a post, or something like that. And a kid gets on each end and they spin around on it. Do you have a name for a thing like that? 888: Merry-go-round. Interviewer: Okay. Anything else? 888: Ocean well. Interviewer: A what? 888: Ocean well. {NW} Interviewer: A? 888: Ocean well. {NW} Ocean well. Interviewer: Okay. How do you spell that? 888: Uh O-C-E-A-N-W-E-L-L-S I guess. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um {NS} okay uh, when you tie a long rope {NS} to a tree limb and put a seat on it so that children can go back and forth, you're making a? {NS} 888: A seat where people can go back and forth? Interviewer: Yeah, a long rope comes off the tree limb and you can s-? 888: Oh, swing. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. {NS} Used to be when people had coal furnaces, {NS} They had a big pile of coal over in the corner. And they had the furnace over here, you know. 888: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 And they'd have a # small container with a handle, and usually that they carried the coal back and forth in? 888: Shovel. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NS} Anything else they might call it? {X} It didn't have a long handle like this. It had a round handle. 888: Oh a round handle? Interviewer: Yeah. Well, I mean a {NS} a wide, with like a little piece of wood in the middle like this. {NW} 888: A spout. {NW} Interviewer: {NW} Do you do you have a name for anything like that? 888: No, I don't #1 really. # Interviewer: #2 Oh okay. # Um. {NW} What, on an old-fashioned kind of stove, what do you call the thing that runs from the ch- the stove to the chimney? 888: Chimney pipe. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NW} What do you call a small vehicle that {NS} You use to carry grass or leaves, or something like that. And it has one wheel in front, and two handles, and you push it like this? 888: A wheelbarrow. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. {NW} Uh. What would you call a little thing that you sarp- sharpen a pocket knife on? {NW} 888: Uh. What would I call it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I'd call it the file. Interviewer: {NW} A what? 888: The file. Interviewer: Mm-kay. What if it was like a like a rock? Kind of thing? {NW} Would you call it anything else? {NW} 888: No. {D: Got the name} #1 {D: of it that I know.} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay. # {NW} Uh have you ever seen a big round one? It's kind of a a stone or a rock, and you pump it, and it turns around and you can sharpen big things on it? 888: Aw, yeah. {NW} So like the {NS} {D: Sawing file.} {NW} {D: Sawing sharpener.} Interviewer: What? 888: Sawing sharpener. That's what I call it. But I don't {X} {D: it wasn't a good name that you call it but I don't know a name.} Interviewer: Okay okay. Um. {NW} Okay, I drove over here in a? 888: Car. Interviewer: What? 888: Car. Interviewer: Okay. And, if something's squeaking in my car, to lubricate it, I'd have to have somebody what the car? 888: Look it over. Interviewer: Okay. And they'd have to put some sorta? 888: Oil. Interviewer: Sticky stuff in it, probably. And you'd say, they're gonna? {NW} {NS} 888: {NW} Interviewer: Real real sticky stuff that keeps the the gears and all, from from squeaking? 888: {NW} Sticky stuff. Interviewer: Uh-huh it's usually black. {NW} In the car, it looks awful. 888: Fluid? Interviewer: {NW} {NW} No, it's not that stuff. Um. {NW} Let's see. {NS} Well I'll tell you what. {NW} Okay. Just to just to get the word. There's another thing, uh, if you fry bacon, {NS} And you get the bacon out and in the pan you have left the bacon what? 888: Grease. Interviewer: Okay. #1 Now. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} If they were gonna {D: that's catchy.} {NW} 888: Huh? {NW} Yeah. Interviewer: {NW} {NS} {C: Children screaming and car driving by} Okay, um. Okay if they were gonna put grease in my car, you'd say they're gonna what the car? 888: Grease your car. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And yesterday, they? 888: Greased your car. Interviewer: What? 888: Greased your car. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If the grease got all over your hands, you'd say my hands are all? 888: Greasy. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Um. {NS} If there was a door hinge that was squeaking, you what what would you have to do to it? 888: Oil it. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And um. {NS} What is the stuff that people used to burn in lamps? {NS} 888: {D: Coal oil.} Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. Have you ever heard of a makeshift lamp that you make with a rag and bottle, and kerosene? {NS} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Toothpaste comes in a? 888: Tube. Interviewer: Okay. And say they've just built a boat, and they're gonna push it out into the water for the first time you'd say they're gonna what the boat? 888: {D: Wrench it out.} Interviewer: What? 888: {D: Wrench} it out. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. {NS} What would you go fishing in on a small lake? 888: What would I go fishing in? Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NW} 888: I call it a {NS} A small boat. Interviewer: Okay any other names you might have for it? {NW} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever call it, like, um. {NW} A bateau, or a pirogue, or a or a rowboat, or a john boat, or anything like that? 888: {NW} I'd say rowboat. {NW} Interviewer: What? 888: A rowboat. Interviewer: Okay. I figure we should talk louder. {NW} They're getting louder #1 than you are. # 888: #2 {NW} # {NS} Okay. Interviewer: Um. If a woman wants to buy a dress a certain color she takes along a little square of cloth to use as a? {NW} 888: Uh. Clean? Interviewer: Mm-kay. Sometimes in the mail, {NW} you get toothpaste, a little tube of toothpaste, or a little bar of soap as a what? {NS} 888: A I mean, a sample? Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um a little girl has on a very becoming dress and you might say, my what a what dress? 888: Pretty dress. Interviewer: I'm sorry? 888: Pretty dress. Interviewer: Okay. And suppose the little girl says to her mother, Suzie's dress is pretty, but mine is even? 888: Beautiful. Interviewer: Okay. Or? 888: Prettier. Interviewer: Okay. Um. What would a woman wear with a dress to work in the kitchen? 888: Apron. Interviewer: Okay. And to sign your name in ink, you use a? 888: Pen. Interviewer: {NW} Okay and to hold a baby's diaper in place, you'd use a? 888: Pin. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Uh I'm sorry I didn't hear that last one again? 888: A pin. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NW} Soup you'd buy, usually comes in a what kind of can? 888: {NW} Soup can. Interviewer: Okay. Or what's it made out of? If it's not aluminum, it's probably a what #1 can? # 888: #2 Steel. # Interviewer: Okay. Or {NW} Um. {NW} It's a it's a different kind of metal. It's another kind of metal. {D: Not aluminum, and it's not steel, it's a?} 888: {NW} Huh? #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 A something can? # {NW} You always hear goats #1 eat it. # 888: #2 {X} # I mean {NW} soup can? #1 {D: That's all.} # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # Kinda it's this kind of metal, the name of a kind of metal we're looking for. Sometimes a #1 roof is # 888: #2 {D: Aluminum metal?} # Interviewer: #1 made out of it, # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: like like this little roof out here? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah, it's probably that. It's it may be aluminum or it might be steel, or it might be what else? {NW} 888: I can't call it. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NW} Foil, you know, uh Used to be made out of it and they called it something foil? 888: {NW} Aluminum foil. Interviewer: Oh okay {C: laughing} this is before aluminum foil #1 this was before you were born. # 888: #2 Oh. # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 Oh. # Interviewer: And they they called it something foil. It's a shorter word than aluminum. {NW} Nice little short word. 888: Wrap? Interviewer: Um. It's a kind of metal. {NS} Nope okay. 888: No. Interviewer: A dime is worth what? 888: Ten cents. Interviewer: Okay. And uh. {NS} Used to be they'd they'd have a they'd have back when the the cowboys were around, you know and and they would go out on the cattle drives, and stuff like that? They'd have to eat their food out of? 888: Can. Interviewer: What? 888: Can. Interviewer: Okay. But sometimes they'd have plates and they were just old what? {NW} {D: Kind.} They weren't paper plates that's for sure. They were probably? 888: Utensils. Interviewer: Okay. Uh {X} #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} And and they'd all have a cup that would be made out of? What? 888: Mm. {NW} Aluminum? {NW} Interviewer: Okay, it didn't have aluminum. {NW} Before that. {NW} 888: Uh before that? Wood? Interviewer: Nope. Uh, metal, but not aluminum. 888: Oh. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Do you know what aluminum is made out of? # {NW} It's made out of a combination of metals. 888: Oh a combination. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: {X} Well, I I thought #1 another one would be # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Just guess. Uh you know if you had to guess what metals it's made out of, what would you guess? {NW} 888: What metals it's made out of? Interviewer: What what metals aluminum is made out of. {NS} 888: Different type of, uh, scrap scrap metal. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um. {NW} Have you ever seen corrugated roofs? 888: Corrugated? Interviewer: Corru- you know, where it's like wavy, kinda? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Yeah okay. {NW} Would you ever call that a certain kind of metal? {NW} Mm-kay alright. #1 Um. # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NW} Let's see. What would a man wear to church on Sunday? 888: A suit. Interviewer: Mm-kay and if it wasn't an old one, you'd say it's a? 888: {NW} Uh if it wasn't old? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: It would be a new one. Interviewer: Okay. Or, and would you say the whole thing, it'd be a? {NW} 888: Brand new. Interviewer: Okay a a new what? 888: Suit. Interviewer: Okay would you say the whole thing? 888: A brand new suit. Interviewer: Okay. Uh okay would you describe the parts of a suit for me? 888: {NW} Oh cause if you're talking about a three piece, it's a vest. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And suit coat, and then the slacks. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Uh you might say that jacket has fancy buttons what it? 888: You said it has fancy buttons? #1 On it? # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # What? 888: I'd say it have fancy buttons on it. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NS} Okay you said if you have the slacks okay if if uh a farmer or somebody was working on the barn, or something like that, and doing dirty work, instead of slacks, he might wear what? {NS} 888: Overalls. Interviewer: Okay. What are overalls, exactly? {NS} 888: Overalls is one piece of suit that comes altogether without, you know, taking off one piece without, you know, use, you know, you just put it on the same way you take it off. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 And it's # made together. Interviewer: Okay okay. Does it have, um. Does it have sleeves, or not? 888: Yeah, it has sleeves. Some have sleeves and some don't. Interviewer: Okay. Okay does it have, um. {NS} Okay these things that go over the shoulder, you know, if it doesn't have sleeves? 888: Oh. No, they don't have sleeves. They don't have sleeves, the straps go over the shoulder, it don't have sleeves. Interviewer: Mm-hmm okay. Okay do you have another word for those straps? {NW} 888: Uh. {NW} {D: How do you say suspenders?} Interviewer: Okay. Um ever heard of another word? Any old-fashioned words? {NW} Okay. 888: No. Interviewer: Um. {NS} If there was something on a table in the next room and you wanted it, you might say to somebody, please go in there and get it, and what it to me? 888: Bring it to me. Interviewer: Okay. And, um. If you go outdoors in the winter without your coat, and somebody runs after you and brings it to you, he'd say, here I have what you your #1 coat? # 888: #2 I have your coat. # Interviewer: I have something you your coat? 888: I have something that belongs to you? Interviewer: No, I have {NW} what brought fill in the word for me. 888: Oh, I have brought you your coat. Interviewer: Mm-kay yeah. Um. Suppose that you come home, from school or something and there's a package on the table and your mother might say, the delivery boy from Jones's store what it here? 888: Delivered your? Interviewer: Okay, you're still using bring. 888: Oh. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Can you the delivery boy what it here? 888: Brought you brought you a delivery. {NW} Interviewer: Mm-kay. You s- you might say, {NW} that coat won't fit this year, but last year it what perfectly? 888: Fit perfectly. Interviewer: What? 888: It fitted perfectly #1 last year. # Interviewer: #2 Oh okay. # Um, if you stuff a lot of things in your pockets it makes them stick out or? 888: {NW} Pudge out. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. What was that word again? 888: Pudge out. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NW} Okay you might say this shirt isn't sanforized I hope it won't? {NW} 888: Repeat it again? Interviewer: This shirt isn't sanforized I hope it won't? {NW} #1 Draw up, or? # 888: #2 {NW} # Shrink. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say, the one I washed yesterday? {NS} 888: The one I washed yesterday shrinked. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NW} And it seems like lately every one I have washed has? 888: Shrink. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If a woman likes to put on good clothes, you'd say she really does like to? {NW} What? {NW} 888: Put good clothes on? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Yeah what do you have another phrase for that? Good clothes. Uh for the process of? 888: A woman who like to put on good clothes? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Oh. I say dress. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Would you ev- would you say anything else if it was a man? {NS} 888: A man like to put on good clothes. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Alright. Uh. {NW} Something that I'd carry my money in is a? 888: Purse. Interviewer: Okay. And if I had a small one, it had a clasp on it, for just for carrying coins, I'd call it a? 888: Wallet. Interviewer: Okay or this is well {NW} like this. What would you call this thing? This has got a little clasp on it, see, and it's {NS} like this? 888: {NW} I'd say a little coin purse. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um. {NS} What would a woman wear around her wrist? 888: Bracelet. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And uh. {NW} Suppose you had a lot of little things that were strung up together and used to go around your neck as jewelry what would you call them? Little round? 888: Necklace. Interviewer: Okay little, round things. 888: Little round things. Interviewer: Yeah. Not pearls, but? 888: {NW} Diamonds? Interviewer: Mm. {NS} {C: Papers rustling} 888: Not pearls but, you know. {X} Interviewer: They might have wooden they might be wooden. {NW} 888: Wooden. Interviewer: Yeah. You see a lot of African ones now. {NW} You know, um. {NW} African trade? {NW} 888: Beads? Interviewer: Yeah, okay. So you'd say you have a what of beads around your neck? {NW} 888: A lot of beads? Interviewer: Okay. Or would you ever say a pair of beads or a string of beads? {NW} 888: A string of beads. Interviewer: Okay, okay. Uh, what would you hold over you when it rains? 888: {NW} What would I hold over me? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: A umbrella. Interviewer: Okay. And, uh. {NW} What's the last thing that you put on a bed when you make it up? 888: The last thing? Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} 888: Uh. Interviewer: The fancy top cover. {NW} 888: Quilt. Interviewer: Okay. And what's a quilt look like? Would you describe it for me? {NW} 888: Uh it's just it's something that's real {X} and some is not. Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay. # 888: #2 It's a # plain quilt. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. Um {NW} is it {NW} is it, um. {NW} Can can you tell me some more about a quilt? {NW} 888: A quilt is when you wanna keep warm and don't wanna, you know, if you don't think it's gonna get too cold you can use a quilt for that. {NW} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And a quilt you can use for different things. To keep, {D: you know, at the top of your bed up there.} Interviewer: Yeah. Well how is it made? 888: How is it made? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: It's it's made square. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And {NW} That's the only way I say square. Interviewer: Uh, what do you mean square? 888: It's got uh four corners on it. Interviewer: Yeah okay. Um. {NS} In the middle, you know the design? {NS} #1 How'd they # 888: #2 Oh. # Interviewer: make that? 888: I guess from the company they make they make that from the company. {NW} The company send it to the dealer. Interviewer: Uh-huh #1 uh-huh. # 888: #2 And the # dealer sells it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 {D: Wait what are} # you asking me how they make it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well I couldn't tell you how they make it because I just bought it. I don't know how they make it. Interviewer: Okay. Would it be, um, on a quilt, would it be a a a printed kind of design, or would it be a kinda thing where you'd have to take a an individual piece of cloth and sew it in? Separately? Or would it be printed, you know, across the whole big piece? Would it be one big piece of cloth or would it be a bunch of little pieces of cloth? {NW} 888: Uh, just one big piece of cloth. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Mm-kay. Um. At the head of the bed, you lay your head on a? 888: Pillow. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And, usually they match the sheets. And you have to put over the pillow, you have a what? {NW} 888: Sheet. Interviewer: Mm. It it usually matches the sheets, but you call it this is something different. You'd call it a? {NW} Call it #1 what? # 888: #2 What they doing? # Interviewer: {NW} Okay. You cover up you cover the pillow with a? {NW} What do you call it? 888: You quilt? Interviewer: Uh. This is like, w-when you when you pull back the quilts, you know, to get in bed, 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And, uh, the pillow has a something-or-other on it. Do you have a name for that? 888: Pillow slip? Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Okay, what was it you called that again? {NW} 888: Pillow slip. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NW} Uh. {NW} Have you ever heard of anything that's like a pillow, only it's about twice as long as a pillow? 888: Twice as long as a pillow? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {NW} Okay. Uh. 888: No. {NW} Interviewer: Okay say you did have a long pillow, like that, you might say {NW} that pillow didn't go just part way across the bed, it went? 888: {NW} All the way across the bed. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NW} Um. {NW} Do you have a name for for a kind of uh bed cover that's made, you know, you saw told me a quilt was like made out of one piece of cloth. {NW} One big piece of cloth? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Do you have one that's made from made that's made out of, like, small pieces of cloth, you know, all all sewn together? {NW} Do you have a name for something like that? {NW} 888: All sewn together? Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NW} 888: Uh. Patches. Interviewer: Oh okay. {D: Does he have a} #1 name for? # 888: #2 Patch quilt. # Interviewer: Oh okay. A patch quilt, is it? 888: Yes, that's #1 what I call it. # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # Okay. Okay. Um. Let's see. {NW} What would you call a makeshift sleeping place down on the floor that children especially like sleeping? 888: {D: A pallet.} {D: A pallet.} Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. {NW} Okay, back to the farm. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Hard questions. {NW} Um. You might say, we expect a big yield from that field because the soil is very rich in what? {NW} 888: The soil is very rich in what? Interviewer: Uh-huh. What's another word for rich, kind of, when you're talking about soil? {NW} 888: Good. {NW} Interviewer: Mm-kay. Or fer-? {NW} 888: Fair. Interviewer: Mm mm-kay. Mm-kay. Um. W-what do you have do you have a name for a flat, lowland along a stream, that sometimes it overflows in the spring then they plow it up? #1 If? # 888: #2 Low foundation. # Interviewer: #1 {NS} # 888: #2 # Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um. Do you have a name for a field that might be good for nothing other than just raising grass, and clover, and alfalfa or something for hay? {NW} Do you have a name for that? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Do you have a name for a a kind of land that just has water standing in it all the time? 888: Creek. Interviewer: Okay. Well this wouldn't be flowing it'd just be standing there. 888: Well standing there for a long time, #1 A river or lake. . # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 888: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 888: #1 {D: Yeah.} # Interviewer: #2 Oh okay. # This would have, like, well I'm talking about it had grass growing up through the water, and it would only be like about a foot or two of water. #1 Or something something maybe # 888: #2 Oh # Interviewer: had trees growing up through it. {NW} Would you have a name for a land like that? {NS} 888: I call it {NW} Creek foundation. Interviewer: Mm-kay would you ever call it a marsh, or a bog, or a a slough, or a swamp, or a mudflat, or anything like that? 888: Swamp. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um in gen- in general, would a swamp be big, or would it be little? {NW} 888: I say big. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um. Do you have a a name for a swampy kinda place, but it's along the sea, it's near the sea, instead of, you know, inland. {NW} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NW} What different kinds of soil is there? Can you name some kinds of soil? {NW} 888: Yes. {NW} There's ri- there's ri- rich soil, there's cheap soil, and there's fertilizer soil. Interviewer: What what kinda soil? 888: Fertilizer soil. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. 888: #1 And # Interviewer: #2 Uh um. # Okay let me. 888: {D: Spayton} soil. {NS} #1 {D: And that soil.} # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # Okay. Up up in Dallas, where I'm from, there's this real black stuff. And, I don't know, do you have a do you have a certain name for that? 888: Black black soil? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Do I have a name #1 for it? # Interviewer: #2 Yes. # 888: No, I don't. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Let's see. {NS} If you had some swampy kind of water, swampy kind of land, and you want to get that water off, you'd say, we are? {NS} And you'd send some men out there to to dig a thing, you know, to get the water out and you'd say they are what -ing the the swamp? {NW} #1 What -ing # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: what -ing the water off? {NW} 888: {D: Rowing } the water off. Interviewer: What? 888: {D: Rowing} the water off. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Let's see. {NW} If sometimes, uh, when you pour water off of vegetables, you say you got to what the vegetables? {NW} You know if you're cook cooking 'em? {NW} 888: Cook the vegetables. Interviewer: Okay, and if you're cooking the vegetables, and you got a bunch of water on them then you're gonna eat 'em but to eat 'em you want to get rid of the water. 888: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 So you have # to pour the water out, or you'd say I'm? #1 Doing? # 888: #2 Pouring the # water off. Interviewer: Okay. Would you use another word besides pour? {NW} 888: Pouring. Interviewer: Yeah. #1 Would you # 888: #2 Would I # use another #1 word? # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # uh-huh. 888: Empty. Interviewer: Okay. If somebody came {NW} And took the gasoline out of your tank of your motorcycle some night when you weren't looking you'd say they did what with the gasoline or other than stole it, you might they what it out of the tank? 888: They emptied it out of the tank. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um. {NS} Okay, back to the swamp. Okay? They they dug a {NS} a thing to get the water to flow out of the swamp, okay? And what would you call that thing that they dug? {NW} 888: A trench. A trench. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um. {NS} What would you call do you have a name for a shallow {X} {D: with a C?} That goes in? Do you have a name for anything like that? {NW} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. What about just a tidal stream, do you have any a name for anything like that? 888: Tidal stream? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Okay, say you got a a valley. A real narrow valley, and it's real deep. Now, it was cut by water. Rushing through. #1 Sometimes it's # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: dry, and sometimes it's got water in the bottom of it. But it's cut by this water rushing through, and it's out in like a field like out in the woods or something like that. And it might be, say, ten feet deep. What would you call that? {NW} 888: Ten foot deep? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What would you call the thing? 888: {NW} I don't know. I wouldn't call it nothing. Interviewer: Would you ever call it a wash, or a ravine, or {NS} {D: a hall, or a} or a gully, or a gulch, or a draw? {NS} 888: No. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. Say there'd been a heavy rainfall, and {NW} there's {NS} you got dirt roads, you know. And there's a little thing like this just cut across the road, maybe about this deep. Uh, what would you call that? {NW} 888: About how deep? Interviewer: {D: I mean it like this.} {NS} 888: What'd I call it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: A dip. Interviewer: Okay. And it's only about this wide, though. 888: Uh. {NW} A hole. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um. {NW} Mm. {NW} What all kinds of fresh, flowing water is there? {NW} 888: Stream water. Spring water. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} 888: And rain water. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. So water flows in a spring, it flows in a stream, and it flows in the Guadalupe what? 888: River. Interviewer: Okay. And what other what else is there besides streams, rivers, and? 888: {D: It would on a stream.} {NS} It would on, you know, different lakes, I guess. Interviewer: Okay. Is there another is there another word that you use for stream? {NW} 888: Trench. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. I mean, that's. #1 {X} # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What, hmm? 888: Go ahead. Interviewer: What are the names of some, some uh, {NS} things like that, other than the rivers around here? 888: What are some other names for it? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {NS} 888: Uh, they got creeks. {NW} #1 And alleys. # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # 888: {NW} Stream alleys, and. {NW} Interviewer: An alley? Is this something #1 {X} # 888: #2 Stream alleys. # Interviewer: #1 Stream alley. # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What's a stream alley? 888: Well it's a little narrow alley of water just comes right down and out. {NS} And they got the, you know, {NS} the precipitating rain come down the you know down, you know, straight down the stream. Interviewer: Oh, is it is it man-made, kinda? 888: Uh. Yes, it's man-made. But sometimes, they not man-made. They just run straight down, you know, the back alleys. Interviewer: Uh I get it, yeah. Okay. What, um, can you name some of the creeks that are around in this in this neighborhood? 888: Well, I can name {D: John Dallas} creek and it's uh Westside creek I used to live at and it's uh another name is Gonzales creek. And there's a creek over there on the Eleanor heights, a Lenwood creek. Interviewer: What creek? 888: Lenwood creek. Interviewer: {NW} Mm-hmm. Okay. 888: That's the only ones I can think of. Interviewer: Okay. Mm-kay. Um. {NW} What would you call um {NW} A rise in the land? 888: A rise in the land? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: A hump. Interviewer: Okay. Or a bigger one? {NW} 888: Uh. Hill? Interviewer: Mm-kay. Mm-kay. Um. {NS} Let's see. What do you call that thing that you turn on a door to get it open? 888: Knob. Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever use the word knob uh to refer to something like a hill? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Um. {NS} Okay if it's bigger than a hill, you'd call it a? {NS} 888: It's bigger than a hill? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: {X} {X} Interviewer: A what? 888: If it's bigger than a hill, what would I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} 888: Uh. Mountain. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh. The rocky side of a mountain that drops off real sharp, {NS} and it's a rock, the sheer rock, you know. Well it just goes straight down like this. 888: Volcanic, volcano? Interviewer: #1 Mm. # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Well this is like the side of it. You know it, like, Usually mountain will slope up like this. Kinda. But maybe it slopes up this way and then it goes down part way and it just goes {NS} straight. Like that and you'd call that what? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay. The lone ranger used to jump his horse off the edge of a? 888: Cliff. Interviewer: Okay. And if you had two of 'em, you'd call 'em two? 888: Cliffs? Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NS} Up in the mountains where the road goes across a low pl- in a low place? You'd call it a what? 888: A stream. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Used to be, when a gunfire killed a man, he'd cut a what in his belt? {NS} Or in his gun-handle? 888: Cut a what in his gun? Interviewer: Uh yeah something. A little {NS} He'd just take his knife and cut a little thing in his either in his belt, or in his gun-handle? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um. What would you call the place where boats stop and where they unload freight? 888: Shipping. Shipping lot. Interviewer: A what? 888: Shipping lot. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NS} What would you call a place in a river or some place where a large amount of water falls a long distance? 888: Waterfall. Interviewer: Okay. Um. What are roads made out of around here mostly? 888: {NW} Rock pavement. Gravel. Interviewer: Hmm. 888: And that's all I know. Interviewer: Okay. What what do what's that black stuff that they use to, um, fill in the cracks? 888: Tar. Interviewer: Okay. And let's see uh. And if the road wasn't paved at all, you'd say it's a? 888: If it wasn't paved at all? Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. Yeah. # 888: #2 {D: Webber.} # Interviewer: What? 888: {D: Webber.} Or. Interviewer: Okay, but {X} it's just? 888: Dirt road. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. What would you call a little road out in the country that goes off the main road? 888: Side road. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. Okay suppose you're going down to a man's farm, and you're going down {NS} the public road, okay? You're going down the main road. {X} But then you turn off and you turn into his land. And you're actually on his land, you know. But his house is maybe a mile down the road. What would you call that road that you'd have to go to on his land to get to his house? 888: What would I call it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} 888: Back road. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Okay. {NS} Uh, suppose it was like a big plantation thing, and you had {NS} a big tree-lined entrance, you know, into the front. Up to the front of the plantation. Do you have a name for that? {NS} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. What about do you have a name for, um, for the track that you might drive cattle down if you take 'em to pasture? Do you have a name for that? 888: Stream. Interviewer: Okay. Okay what do you mean, exactly? 888: Uh, a narrow stream where you can walk down. Interviewer: Okay. Mm-kay. Um. Can what do you call the thing by the side of the street for people to walk on? 888: The sidewalk. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And sometimes there's a strip of grass, a piece of grass, between the sidewalk and the street, what would you call that? 888: {NS} The edges. Interviewer: Okay, okay. Um. Say that two boys were walking across a field and one of 'em saw a crow, in the field eating the farmer's corn. So he'd reach down and he'd pick up a? 888: Rock? Interviewer: A what? 888: A rock. Interviewer: Okay, and then he'd? 888: #1 Throw it. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # I'm sorry, what? 888: Throw it. Interviewer: Okay. Okay if somebody came to visit your mother, okay? And you met that person out in the yard you might say she's not what the house, she's what the garage. 888: She's not what in the garage? Interviewer: She's not okay this is the whole thing. She's not what the house, she's what the garage. Can you fill in the whats? {NW} 888: {D: Laboring.} Interviewer: Okay like okay just just take the sentence like this, okay, and just tell me what? 888: {D: Do what with it?} Interviewer: Just take the word what and replace it with something else. Okay? 888: {NW} Uh #1 uh what # Interviewer: #2 She. # 888: she is? Interviewer: She is not {NW} {NW} {NW} the house she's {NW} the garage? 888: {NW} She is not the house she is not the garage. She is not the house. Interviewer: She's not what the house? 888: She is not the house. Interviewer: {NW} You you're trying to tell them where your mother is. Okay? 888: Oh. Oh she's not in the house. She's not in the garage. {NW} She's not in the house. Interviewer: Okay. Alright. {D: Let me see.} Uh. What kinds of stuff do people drink for breakfast? 888: Orange juice, milk. {NW} Interviewer: What else? 888: Uh. Juices. {D: They had} juices. {X} And water. {NW} Interviewer: What kind of stuff do you drink if you're sleepy? 888: What kind of stuff would you drink coffee. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NS} I should have had some more this morning. #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 It's. # Interviewer: Okay some people like it {NW} milk and other people like it {NW} #1 milk. # 888: #2 Cream. # Or some like it with milk and some like it with cream. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. 888: Some like it with. Interviewer: Okay. But okay don't talk about cream at all, just #1 talk about milk, okay? # 888: #2 Oh. # Interviewer: And if you can just fill in the blanks here. Some like it {NW} milk and some like it {NW} milk. 888: Oh some like it with with milk and some don't like it with milk. Interviewer: Okay. Or if if you were gonna s- another way of saying don't like it with milk is they they like it what? Milk? 888: Cream. Interviewer: Um. 888: Oh. Interviewer: Don't like it with you'd s- uh what's another word, just one word, for don't like it with? The opposite of with is? 888: The opposite of what? Interviewer: The opposite of with. Just the word with. 888: Withs? Interviewer: {X} Okay you can go to the store with me, or you can go to the store what me? 888: Without me? Interviewer: Okay. Now. Uh yeah alright. That's all that's all I need. Uh. Let's see. Oh, uh. {NS} Coffee without milk what would you call that? 888: Coffee without milk? Interviewer: Yeah do you have another name for that? Or without milk and sugar? 888: Straight. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. {NS} Is there another word for it? 888: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # What what would you call what is black coffee? Have you heard that? 888: Yes. Interviewer: What is black coffee? {NS} 888: What is it? Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 {D: Black coffee} # is when you want to drink it straight. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 And you don't # want nothing in it. Interviewer: Okay so same as straight. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Have you ever heard of barefooted? Drinking coffee barefooted? 888: Drink the coffee barefooted? Interviewer: #1 Yeah but # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Barefoot uh barefooted coffee? 888: No. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. If someone's not going away from you, you could say he's coming? What you? 888: To you. Interviewer: Okay another word for to would be? 888: Come. Interviewer: Uh no. He's not going away from you, he's coming? {NS} 888: To. {NS} To you from you. Interviewer: Okay, #1 or # 888: #2 He's coming # away from you. Interviewer: Mm-kay another word for to? No he's he's coming at me. #1 He's coming # 888: #2 Away from # Interviewer: to me, or he's coming? {NS} What? 888: Away from you? Interviewer: No another word for this way? 888: Oh coming from. Coming to me? Interviewer: To. {NW} 888: Oh, he coming toward me. Interviewer: Yeah okay. 888: {X} Interviewer: Mm-kay let's see. Um. Okay um. Say you saw somebody This morning that you hadn't seen for quite a while. You might say, this morning I just happened to what oh so-and-so? 888: Seen somebody. Interviewer: Okay. And later on you were telling another friend about it. And you'd say, I wasn't looking for him, I just sort of ran? 888: Into him. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If a child is given the same name that her mother has, you'd say that they named the child what her mother? 888: After her mother. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NS} If you wanted your dog to attack another dog, or to attack a person, You might say what to the dog? 888: Sic him. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If your dog was uh. a mixed breed. You'd you might call him a what? 888: Half and half. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And um. If it was a worthless, good-for-nothing kind of dog, you'd call it a what? {NS} Do you have a name? {NS} 888: A potham. Interviewer: A what? 888: Potham. Interviewer: How do you spell that? 888: {NW} P-O-T. {NW} P-O-T-S-H-A-R-M. I mean H-A-M-S. Potham. Interviewer: Okay. Mm-kay. {X} #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Um. Okay what if it's a small, noisy, yapping kind of dog what would you call that? 888: Whining dog. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. You might say, yesterday that dog what the postman? 888: Bit the postman. Interviewer: Okay. You might say, that dog will what anybody? 888: Bite anybody. Interviewer: Okay. And the mailman had to go to the doctor after he had been? 888: Bit. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. Let's see. {NS} Would you ever say uh that somebody was dog bit? Or would you say he or would you just say he was bit by a dog? Would you use the phrase dog bit? 888: {D: Rabie.} I mean, would I be using the phrase bit? Interviewer: Mm no just dog bit together like that or would you say bit by a dog? 888: Bit by a dog. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Mm-kay. Um. Okay you say you keep a cow for milk okay and a and a cow is a female and so what do you call the male of that species? 888: What do I call the male of that species? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: The boy. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. Or let's see. {NS} Sometimes You hear about somebody who who at the Fort Worth Fat Stock Show or something who wins a a prize for a prize-winning? What? 888: Prize-winning uh. Interviewer: And it'd be it'd be the male. Like this. 888: Livestock. {NS} Interviewer: Mm-kay would you ever call it a um just uh the male, or the seed ox, or the stock cow, or the bull, or the toro, or any of those? 888: No. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. Okay used to be they kept work animals around. And, you know to pull things, pull heavy loads and stuff. And some of 'em kinda looked like horses but they weren't, they had long ears. And you'd call them what? 888: Jackass. Interviewer: Okay, or another word? 888: Oh, donkey. Interviewer: Okay, bigger than a donkey? {NS} 888: Bigger than a donkey? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Horses? Interviewer: Uh. {D: Yeah yeah, they're more like horses.} But they're they're I think they may even be a cross between a donkey and a horse. Not positive about that. 888: They bigger than you said they bigger than a horse? Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 Is that what # Interviewer: #1 A lot of times they are, yeah. # 888: #2 you said? # Interviewer: They wouldn't be bigger than a than the #1 biggest horses, # 888: #2 And they? # Interviewer: but they're big. 888: And they pull? They got four legs? Interviewer: Yeah, uh-huh. And long ears. 888: Uh. I don't I wouldn't know what they're called. Donkey mule? Interviewer: What? 888: A mule? Interviewer: Okay, okay. If you had two mules, {NS} hitched together to pull something, you'd call that a what of mules? {NS} 888: Two mules. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. Okay, if you had four of 'em hitched together, you'd call 'em a what? 888: Four mules. Interviewer: Okay. And, uh. If you had okay, if you had four, um two oxen hitched together, you'd call 'em a what? 888: Two oxes. Interviewer: Two what? 888: Two oxes. Interviewer: Okay. And if you had four hitched together you'd call 'em? 888: Four oxes. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. Let's see. If you had a cow and it had a little one, you know, you'd call the little one a what? 888: And he had a {D: and he said if he had one?} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: What would I call it? Interviewer: Yeah, the little one. 888: {D: A shedding cow} I guess. Interviewer: Okay. Well I mean it it when it's first born, you'd call it a? 888: Nanny. Interviewer: Okay. Okay, um. Let's see. If you had a cow by the name of Daisy, okay? Who was gonna have a little one, you'd say Daisy is going to what? 888: {X} {NS} Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Daisy was gonna have a little little one, okay? 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay and so you'd say Daisy is going to? 888: Have a little one? Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NW} Um. Riding animals are called what? 888: Riding animals? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Horses. Interviewer: Okay. And a female one is called a? What? 888: {D: Well a horse I guess.} Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh. And if you had okay, you got one horse, but if you had two, then you'd say you had two? 888: Horses. Interviewer: Okay. When do you have to leave? 888: Uh I'm supposed to be taking off at three o'clock. Interviewer: At th- oo okay um {NS} okay let's see. Uh. {NS} Okay what would you call a male horse? 888: A male horse? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I would call a male horse just a boy {X} I mean a boy horse. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Alright um. You might say, everyone around here likes to what horses? 888: Everyone around here likes to ride horses. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say, last year he what his horse every day? 888: Rode his horse every day. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay and you might say, he had what it every day for? Auxiliary : Hi. 888: {D: How you doing?} Interviewer: You'd say, uh {NS} okay, he rode his horse every morning, right? 888: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # and he had what it every day for years? 888: He had it for years? Interviewer: He had we were talking about rode. 888: He had rode it for years. Interviewer: Okay oh okay. Um. And if you couldn't stay on, you'd say, I fell what the horse? 888: I fell off the horse. Interviewer: Okay. And a little child went to sleep in bed, and he found himself on the floor in the morning, he'd say I must've? 888: Fell out the bed. Interviewer: Okay. And the things that you put on a horse's feet to protect him from the road, you'd call what? 888: Horseshoes. Interviewer: Okay. And what do you call the game that you play with those things? 888: What do I call the game? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Uh. Interviewer: Have you heard of a game that you'd call those things? #1 {X} # 888: #2 Play with play with horses? # Interviewer: H- hor- horseshoes. 888: Oh, horseshoes. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 Uh, yes. # Horseshoe game {X} you know the stick in the ground. Interviewer: Okay how you how do you play it exactly? 888: You get it right on the side of the ring. And if you get it on the ring, you you know, win. So many rings horseshoes you gotta get round the thing. Interviewer: Okay. Okay, so you'd what what is it you'd put something in the ground and you throw 'em at it? 888: Yeah. And try to rope the ring. And. You, you know, rope the ring you win you win a game or something. Interviewer: Wait so what do you mean rope the ring? What do you mean there? 888: #1 You gotta get the # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 888: horseshoe all the way around the ring. And kinda, you know, make it stay on the ring. Not off the ring. Interviewer: {D: I get okay.} How far back do you get when you toss it? 888: You get about you get about say about four feet back. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Um. What part of the horse's feet do you put the shoes onto? 888: What part of the feet? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: On feet. Interviewer: Okay, well the bottom part of the feet you'd call the? 888: The heel. Interviewer: Okay. Any other name you know for it? 888: {NS} No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Uh a male sheep is called a? {NS} 888: Male sheep. Interviewer: Yeah. You don't know the name for a male sheep? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay what about a female sheep? 888: Lamb. I mean I only know it's a sheep. Interviewer: Okay. Okay #1 that's fine. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What do they raise sheep for, anyway? 888: What do they raise 'em for? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {NS} 888: Some people get milk from 'em. I guess. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. 888: And {NS} fur, I guess. Interviewer: Okay what's another name for that fur? {NS} 888: What's another name for it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. They make nice clothes out of it. You know? Heavy #1 coats? # 888: #2 Oh, wool? # Interviewer: What? 888: Wool. Interviewer: Okay. Um. {NS} Okay, talking about Hogs, you know? Back to hogs. 888: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 What would # you call a male hog, do you have a name for him? 888: A male hog? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Uh. No. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. {NW} Okay. {NW} When you have a little pig, you know, okay, you got a he hasn't grown up yet. Okay, and it's a male. And you don't want him to grow up to be able to breed, to be used for breeding. What would you say you have to do to him? 888: Keep him and have him spayed-ed. Interviewer: Okay. Okay, and what would you call one that's that that's been done to? 888: What would you call one? Interviewer: Yeah, do they have a name for that? {NS} 888: Virgins. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. Let's see. Hmm. What do you call those those real stiff hairs that they have on the back of uh ho- on the hog has on it's back? 888: Uh. {NS} Bristle I guess. #1 Bristles. # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # What? 888: Bristles. Interviewer: Okay. And the big teeth {D: that are on the heads} what would you call them? {X} 888: What would I call 'em? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Just teeth. Interviewer: Okay. And you put the food {NS} for a hog in a long metal what? 888: Tray. Interviewer: Okay. Another word do you have another word? 888: Uh. Drock. Interviewer: What? 888: Drock. Interviewer: Okay, okay. Uh. How would you spell that? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} I'm not too good at spelling either. Do you have a name for a hog that that's grown up wild? 888: Wild hog. Interviewer: Okay. Okay um. 888: Go ahead. Interviewer: Okay. {D: We'll do} {D: just a little bit more and get to the end.} Uh. What do you call a noise that's made by a calf when it's being weaned? 888: Nah. #1 Nah nah. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 888: {X} That's all I know. Interviewer: Okay. #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Uh what about a gentle uh we got a whole whole list of noises here. See if you have names for these noises #1 okay? # 888: #2 Okay. # Interviewer: Uh. Do you have a A name for a gentle noise that's made by a cow during feeding time? 888: {D: During f-} uh feeding time? Interviewer: Mm-hmm I mean I don't uh you may not. I don't know you might. 888: {NW} Uh. No, I don't. Interviewer: Okay. Uh, let's see. What about a gentle noise that a horse makes? 888: {C: Whinnies} #1 Or something like that. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Okay. {C: Laughing} You have a name for it? That sound? 888: Whinny. {C: pronounced like whine-y or wangy} Interviewer: A what? 888: A whinny. {C: pronounced like whine-y or wangy} Interviewer: Okay. Alright. Um. Let's see. {NS} Okay say you've got {NS} uh, some horses and mules and cows and so on. And when they're getting hungry, you say you have to go out and feed the what? {NS} Do you have one word for all horses and mules and cows? 888: The animals. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Okay you got hens and turkeys and geese and chickens and all that. You gotta go out and feed the? You have one word for all those? 888: Animals. Interviewer: Okay. Alright. Uh a hen on a nest of eggs is called a? What kinda hen? 888: Rooster. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Let's see. What do you call the little place where chickens live? 888: Hen house. Interviewer: Okay. What if it's Is is is a house a hen house covered, or is it just a little wire thing, or? 888: Uh it's Covered with wiring. But like a shed-house. Interviewer: Okay. Okay do you have any other names for it? 888: A shed shed house, hen house. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 That's the # only name I can give you. Interviewer: Well would you ever call that, um a chicken coop or a chicken coop? {C: Pronunciation} 888: Chicken coop. Interviewer: Okay. Um. When you have fried chicken. 888: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 And there's this one # 888: {X} Interviewer: {NW} {D: Right.} There's one piece that kids get, and they pull it apart, and what do you call that piece? 888: Uh, the wing. #1 Uh. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Mm. There's a particular piece that you know like you get on one end and I get on the other. 888: Oh, I know what you're talking about. A wishbone? Interviewer: Yeah, okay. Now what's the deal with a wishbone? Is there a is there a story behind it or legend or a? 888: Well, all I can say is way back then that's what we used to do. We'd just make a wish, and then the wish may come true and it might not come true. Interviewer: Okay. 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 W- # When you pull it apart. Which which end is the the end you wanna get? 888: The biggest part. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Uh. What do you call the inside parts of the chicken that you can eat? Like the liver and the heart and the gizzard and so on? What do you call that? Chicken what? 888: Chicken fillings, I guess. Chicken meat. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh, what about the inside part of a pig or a calf that you can eat? 888: {X} What what's the name of it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Liver, gallbladder. Interviewer: {NS} Uh this this next thing is some more about the the inside of a pig um what do you call the inside of a pig that sometimes you eat and sometimes you stuff sausage in? You ever heard anything like that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um okay if you hear your cow mooing outside and your and your horse neighing and they're hungry you say gee I didn't realize it's so late it's almost #1 What? # 888: #2 Feeding # time. Interviewer: I'm sorry what? 888: Feeding time. Interviewer: Okay. Um Okay do you know of any any calls to that you call the cows to get them to come in from the pasture? 888: No. Interviewer: okay. What about uh horses? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um what about calling calves? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um what about something that you say to a cow to make it stand still during uh milking? You know of anything that you say? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um what do you say to mules or horses to make them go right or left when you're plowing? You know? 888: No. No I don't. Interviewer: Okay. Um. How would you call uh pigs if you were gonna call them in to feed them? 888: What would I call them? Interviewer: Yeah, how would you call? 888: I wouldn't call them none, I just. Interviewer: {NW} You just wouldn't call them huh 888: {NW} Interviewer: Okay um. Do you know of uh of a way to call chickens when you want to feed them? 888: Chick chick chick. Interviewer: Okay um. What do you say to a horse to urge him on? #1 If you # 888: #2 Giddy-up. # Interviewer: Okay. Is that when he's already moving or is that when he's standing still or is that neither? 888: Uh when he's moving. Interviewer: Okay well if he's standing still and you want him to go what do you say to him? 888: What do I say to him? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Giddy-up. Interviewer: Okay um. What would you say to stop him? 888: Hold. Interviewer: Okay And what if you want him to back up? {NS} 888: I don't know about back up. Interviewer: Okay uh {NS} Did I ask you about yeah do you know about any any calls to sheep to get them to come in? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh if you wanna get if you if you wanna hitch a horse to a buggy or a wagon what do you have to put over its shoulders? 888: A blanket. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} So lets see if you're gonna ride and you put a saddle on his back and a bridle on his head but this is like he's gonna pull something so you put this big thing around his shoulders. Do you know what that's called? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um when you're plowing with a horse you know what do you call those leather things that you hold in your hand that you guide him with? 888: mm I don't know. Interviewer: Okay. What if you're just riding the horse? What do you call the leather things that you hold in your hand to guide him with? 888: A bridle. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Um. {NS} When you're riding a horse where do you put feet into when you're riding? 888: The riding uh the riding stock on the side of the horse. Interviewer: Oh okay the what? 888: The riding stock. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. If you plow with two horses do you know what you call the one that walks in the furrow? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Um. {NW} If something is not right near at hand you might say it's just a little what off? 888: Far off hand. Interviewer: Okay. Or a little not very far it's just a little mm off 888: Close. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If you'd been traveling and you haven't finished your journey you might say that you had a mm to go before dark. A what to go before dark? 888: To go? Interviewer: Yeah you have a {NW} something to go before dark. 888: Oh I have something to go before dark? Interviewer: {X} You told me the distance. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: mm 888: Oh you got a long distance to go before dark. Interviewer: Okay. Or another word for distance? You might say a long? 888: Hike. Interviewer: Okay uh. Any other thing that just for distance? 888: Long journey. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If something is real common and you don't have to look for it in a special place you'd say you could find that just about? 888: Anywhere? Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody slipped on the ice and fell this way did you say he'd fell? 888: Backwards. Interviewer: Okay. And if he fell this way you'd say #1 he fell # 888: #2 frontwards. # Interviewer: What? 888: Frontwards. Interviewer: Okay. Um. I might catch a a say did you catch a fish and you might say no what a one? Something a one? 888: No, but I caught one fish. Interviewer: No you didn't catch any. 888: Oh. I didn't catch any fish. Interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard the word nary or nary {C: pronunciation} used? 888: Repeat it please? Interviewer: Nary? Or nary? {C: pronunciation} 888: Narrow? Interviewer: #1 No nary one or # 888: #2 I think you said narrow? # Interviewer: nary {C:pronunciation} one? You ever heard that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um. A schoolboy might say about a scolding teacher he might say why is she blaming me? I mm wrong. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Fill in the blank there. 888: She's wrong. Interviewer: No. I why is she blaming me? I 888: I didn't do anything. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If somebody apologizes for breaking something of yours. So they you know like broke it And you might say oh that's okay I didn't like it 888: Any- any- anyway. Interviewer: Okay. Um. A crying child might say he was eating candy and he didn't give me 888: Any. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. And you might say now that kid is spoiled. When he grows up he'll have his trouble. 888: Elsewhere? Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever say apt as not or like as not? Either one? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. What do you call those trenches that the plow cuts when you plow? 888: Uh. What'd you call them? Trenches trenches? Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh. Would you ever call them furrows or furrows? {C: pronunciation} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. If you have a uh uh if you raise a-a lot of wheat or something you'd say we really did raise a big what? Something with wheat. 888: A big wheat patch. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Sometimes on the news you'll hear uh you'll hear them reporting farm prices and stuff you know. And uh they'll say this year we're gonna have a bumper what? {NS} 888: Should we have a bumper auction? Interviewer: Uh okay okay. Um if you got rid of all the brush and trees on your land you might say you did what to the land? 888: Cleaned it off. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Sometimes if you cut grass you know for hay. 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Sometimes it will grow back again in the same season and then you go back and cut it again and do you know what you'd call it when you cut it again? Is there a name-do you have a name for that? 888: If it grow again? Interviewer: Uh-huh. And what {X} when you cut it again? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. What would you call or would you call the old dry dead grass that's left over on the ground in the spring? Would you call that anything? 888: Dead grass. Interviewer: Okay. Um. What would you call a crop that hadn't been planted that year but it just came up anyway? By itself? 888: A weed. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Wheat after you cut it you might tie it up into a what? 888: Bundle Interviewer: Okay mm. The bundles then you'd tie up into bigger things and you'd call them what? 888: Bundle Bundles? Interviewer: Uh. Okay would you call them bundles too? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay okay. You might say we raised forty what of wheat to an acre? 888: Forty pounds of wheat a acre Interviewer: Okay or this is like a-a-a you can get a basket that's a something basket. It's that measurement. 888: Mm. Interviewer: Uh. A peck is half a what? 888: A peck is half a? Interviewer: {X} 888: An animal? Interviewer: #1 Uh.Um. # 888: #2 I mean not an animal. # Interviewer: It's uh it's a name of a measurement you know I think a basket is about the size. 888: Half of a basket? Interviewer: Okay okay uh. Let's see. What do you have to do with oats to separate grain from the rest of it? Would you ever say threshed or thrashed? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Let's see. Um. If there was something that that we had to do today okay we'd say we could say we have to do it or we could say I could-I could say Mm and mm have to do it. What would I say? {NW} 888: Me and I mean you and I have to do it. Interviewer: Okay okay or if you were talking to me you'd say what and I had to do? 888: I was talking to you? Interviewer: Uh-huh you'd say? 888: She and I had to do it. Interviewer: Okay but you're talking to me you'd say. 888: She. I'm talking to you. Interviewer: #1 No you're # 888: #2 She has to do it. # Interviewer: talking about me too. You're saying. 888: She. Interviewer: {NS} 888: I mean. Interviewer: Okay you don't-I'm gonna do it with you. 888: #1 Oh. You have to do it? # Interviewer: #2 Okay? {X} # Okay and you and what 888: You and I have to do it. Interviewer: Okay okay. And say somebody wants us for a job okay. They didn't want just you and the didn't want just me he wants what of us? 888: Both of us to do the job. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If a friend of yours and you are coming over to see me you might say mm and mm are coming over. 888: Me and- I mean my friend and I are coming over. Interviewer: Okay. And if you didn't say my friend you'd say 888: Me me I mean. Myself is coming over. Interviewer: {X} Well okay you already told me you were coming so but you'd say yeah you don't want to say the friend's name or you don't want to say my friend you just say #1 hey. # 888: #2 My- # self is coming over. Interviewer: Okay no. Something and I are coming. 888: #1 Something and I are coming over. # Interviewer: #2 {NS} # Fill in the something what would you call him even if he wasn't here. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Or just Him or he or she or her. Pick one of those. 888: Oh. Her is coming over. Interviewer: Okay and I okay. Put-would you put the whole thing together. Say okay you and friend. 888: Oh. Interviewer: are coming to see me. So you say mm and mm are coming to see you. 888: Her and she is coming to see. Interviewer: Okay but you're coming too. 888: Oh. Me and- me and I and my friends coming to see. Interviewer: Okay okay. Uh. If you knock at a door and they say who's there? Okay they know your voice and so you say it's You-you're knocking at the door and they say who's there? 888: Oh. Interviewer: And they know that you know you're {X} So you just say it's? 888: Me. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. And if we're sitting here expecting some guy who knocks at the door we know he's gonna come he's coming you know and you say oh it's only. 888: A friend. Interviewer: Okay but you don't want to say that you just say you just want a pronoun. 888: Oh. Interviewer: Just say oh it's only. 888: Me. Interviewer: Okay but it's not you it's. 888: Oh it's only uh. Interviewer: He or him or her or she 888: Oh it's only him. Interviewer: Okay uh. {NW} If it's a woman you'd say it's only. 888: Her. Interviewer: Okay and if it was two people you'd say it was only 888: Two person. Her. Interviewer: Okay but a pronoun again. 888: Him and her. Interviewer: Mm. They 888: They- they Interviewer: It's only. 888: They and us. Interviewer: Just okay just pick-take one. If there's two people at the door you'd say it's only. 888: Us. Interviewer: Okay. But it's not us it's. Say two of those kids came to the door you'd say Oh it's 888: It's only them. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Uh compare how tall you are you might say he is not as tall as 888: Me. {NS} Interviewer: What? 888: Me. Interviewer: Okay. And comparing how tall you are again you might say I'm not as tall as. 888: She. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. Comparing how well you can do something you might say he can do it better than. 888: I. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If a person had been to New Mexico okay and hadn't gone any more west then you'd say New Mexico is mm west he'd ever been. 888: New Mexico is west. Would you repeat that please? Interviewer: Okay. If he had gone to New Mexico but he hadn't gone any more west okay he'd say New Mexico is the mm west he's ever been. 888: New Mexico is the west {D: end} he ever been. Interviewer: Okay the okay the would you ever use it like with with something to do with the word far like if the. 888: Oh. Mexico is the farthest place he ever been. Interviewer: Okay okay uh. Mm let's see if something belongs to me okay like okay that's my purse and you and you might give it to me and say it's? 888: Your purse. Interviewer: Okay or if you leave off purse you'd just say it's? 888: Hers. Interviewer: Okay or if you're talking to me you'd say it's y- 888: Yours. Interviewer: Okay. And if it belongs to both of us you'd say it's. 888: Us. Interviewer: #1 If # 888: #2 I mean ours. # Interviewer: Yeah. 888: #1 It's our purse. # Interviewer: #2 What- what'd you say? # Okay but leave off purse you'd say it's? 888: Ours. Interviewer: Okay. And if it belongs to them out there you'd say it's? 888: They purse. Interviewer: Okay. And if it belongs to um. How would you say it without purse? 888: Oh they. Interviewer: Okay. And c- and if it belongs to him some other guy you'd say it's? 888: His purse. Interviewer: Okay uh. Let's see. Okay say some people have been to visit you and they're about to leave and you'd say to them Mm come back again. 888: Good bye. Interviewer: Okay. Would you say anything to them I mean a direct address kind of thing? 888: Yes. Interviewer: What would you say? 888: Good bye. Interviewer: Okay but I mean would you call them anything? Like would you say 888: Yes Interviewer: You or y'all or 888: #1 See y'all later. Good bye. # Interviewer: #2 You all or # What'd you say? I'm sorry. 888: I'll see you later. Good bye. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um. If somebody's been to a party and they started to leave and you were asking about their coats and stuff like that you might say to them where are mm 888: #1 Our coats. # Interviewer: #2 coats? # What? 888: Our coats. Interviewer: Okay but if you're just talking to them you'd say where are 888: They coats. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Let's see. Um. Asking about people at a party you might say mm was there. 888: Who was there? Interviewer: Okay. And if you wanted to know about all the people that were there would you say anything different? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Uh a group of children. Say there was a group of kids playing out front and they obviously belong to more than one family you might say mm children are they? 888: Whose children are them? Interviewer: Okay. Um. If you're asking about say you want to hear a speech and you missed it and you wanted to hear what the speaker {X} hear what he said you know but you know everything he said. You want to know all his remarks you might say mm did he say? 888: What did he say? Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever say uh what all? 888: #1 What all? # Interviewer: #2 What all? # What? 888: What all? Interviewer: Mm-hmm would you ever say that? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Let's see. Would you use it in a sentence for me? 888: What all did he say? Interviewer: Okay. Um. You might say if no one else will look out for them they've got to look out for- 888: For their self. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. And if no one else will do it for him you might say he had better do it? 888: His self. Interviewer: Okay. And we call it stuff that's made of flour and baked in loaves? 888: Bread. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. What's some other kind of bread that doesn't come in loaves? 888: #1 Rolls # Interviewer: #2 You- # What? 888: Rolls. Interviewer: Okay. What else? 888: Um biscuits. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And corn bread. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What else? 888: And that's the only thing I can think of. Interviewer: Okay. What all different kinds of corn bread is there? 888: Uh they- they got yellow corn bread. They got white corn bread #1 corn bread. {C: pronunciation} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm # Mm-hmm. Um. Let's see. Have you ever heard of a kind of corn bread that doesn't have anything in it except corn meal and salt and water? Would you call that anything? Do you have a name for that? 888: Just have it with corn meal and salt and water? Interviewer: Yeah that's all that's all you use to make it with just corn meal and salt and water. That's what you make it with. 888: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 You don't put- # do you have a name for that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um. Have you ever heard of old people or somebody talk about making corn bread uh in front of the fire on a board or something? Have you ever heard of a name for that? 888: Um. Interviewer: No? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. What about a kind of corn bread that they put right in the ashes to cook have you ever heard about that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay {NW} 888: #1 {X} Just corn bread # Interviewer: #2 {X} Um that's uh yeah dirty # Um. Wha-Do you know of a name for a kind of corn bread that's that's like about an inch thick and it's real large and round and you cook it in a skillet? 888: A skillet? Interviewer: Uh-huh 888: What do you call it? Interviewer: Yeah what do you call the-what kind of corn bread is like that? Do you have a name for that? 888: Just corn bread. Interviewer: Okay um. What about the kinds thats kind of spear shaped you know just sort of round sometimes they're long kind of long and- 888: And round? Interviewer: Round what? 888: You said and round. Interviewer: Yeah uh-huh well smaller than that. They're about like this. And they're made with like little pieces of onion in them and uh let's see what else little pieces of green pepper and you cook them in deep fat- fry them in deep fat and then you eat them with like seafood or fried fish or something? 888: No no. Interviewer: Okay um. Have you ever heard of any kind of corn bread that you boil in cheese cloth with like beans or 888: #1 No. I sure haven't. # Interviewer: #2 greens? Okay. # 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Uh. Okay one more. What about the kind of corn bread you cook in a deep pan and it comes out soft soft and you dish it out like you dish out mashed potatoes? 888: No way. I never seen nothing like Interviewer: #1 that before. # 888: #2 Okay. # Interviewer: {NW} 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Have you ever heard of a corn dodger? 888: A corn dodger? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: #1 No no. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 888: Corn dodger. Interviewer: Okay. There's two kinds of bread. There's homemade bread and then there's the kind you buy at the store which you might call what bread? 888: It's- it's homemade bread and uh bakery bread. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Bakery bread. Interviewer: What? 888: Bakery bread. Interviewer: Okay. Um. What do you call that thing that's round and has a hole in it and it's sweet and it's fried in deep fat? 888: It's fried in deep-deep fat? Interviewer: Mm-hmm and it's sweet. 888: It's bread or what? Interviewer: #1 I-uh-it's kind of bready. # 888: #2 I mean what you said is bread? # Interviewer: Yeah it's like bread. 888: And it's fried in Interviewer: #1 It has a hole # 888: #2 deep- # Interviewer: in the middle. 888: I don't know what you call that. It's just. Interviewer: You-you eat it with like coffee or something. 888: Oh a donut. Interviewer: Yeah okay. Um. What all kinds of different donuts do you know of? 888: Glazed donuts uh coconut donuts. Interviewer: What-what was the first one? 888: Glazed donuts. Interviewer: What's that? 888: That's when a glaze uh well I call it a laze some call it a glaze. Interviewer: Oh uh-huh. What is it? 888: I call it you know uh I just it's really got a lot of sugar on it and icing and you know. You put in your mouth it melts in your mouth. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: I wish I had one. 888: Yeah you're not the only one. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Okay what else? 888: And uh you got uh sugar donuts. You know sugar donuts got all sugar on them on the outside. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And then they got chocolate donuts with chocolate icing on them. That's my kind of donuts. Interviewer: {NW} 888: And that's the only kind I can think of. They got glaze lazed chocolate donuts chocolate chip donuts and that's the only kind I can think of right now. Interviewer: Okay. You know if you go to Dunkin' Donuts or- do they have Dunkin' Donuts here? 888: Yeah they got one over there on San Pedro. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: That's real nice. I go over there sometimes. Get me a couple of donuts for lunch. Interviewer: Yeah. {NW} Well you know they've got some that are kind of big and puffy and kind of like like bread and then there are some that are kind of crumbly they're more like cake. You know-do you have different names for those two kinds? 888: They kind of crumbly? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Some of them are crumbly and then some of them are- you sort of have to pull them apart. You know they don't break apart you sort of pull them. 888: Oh. They ain't caramel puffs {X} Interviewer: What? 888: Caramel puffs is They ain't that is they? Interviewer: Uh I don't know. What is that exactly? 888: Caramel puffs. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well Caramel puffs do they got any filling inside of it? Interviewer: I don't know. Tell me about caramel puffs. 888: Caramel puffs is some of them things that they got yellow filling inside when you bite into them Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And you know you just get it all off in your mouth and just eat it all up. It tastes pretty good when they cold but when they not cold they don't taste too good man because I just like them cold. Sometime they have lemon filling inside of them. Interviewer: Uh-huh 888: That's all the caramel puffs Or they might have that cornbread cake. I don't like that Mexico stuff. I don't you know care too much for that. Interviewer: Yeah I didn't hear of that at Dunkin' Donuts. 888: Yeah. They got- they got everything now. Interviewer: #1 Huh. # 888: #2 Twenty-four hours a day. # Interviewer: Yeah. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Uh. Do you have a name for if they're long and twisted kind of? 888: Oh yeah the twisters, that's one of a kind- good good eating right there. Interviewer: Yeah. {NW} 888: Get a good glass of big milk sit down and drink. Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah. 888: That's real good. Interviewer: What do you call if they're just long and flat and straight? Just like that yeah. 888: Long and flat? Interviewer: Yeah well sort of flat. I mean they're about that thick. Just long like that. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Do you have a name for that? 888: No I don't have a name for it but I mean there's a name for it but I don't forgot the name because I know I've seen some like that straight and they have strawberries in the middle of it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: It's pretty good. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: #1 Forgot # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: you'd call it. Interviewer: Okay uh have you ever seen any that-that you just take donut dough and you just put it in the fat like that and you don't make a hole in it? Would you call that anything? 888: You just put it inside the-the fat? Interviewer: Yeah well yeah they 888: #1 The dough? # Interviewer: #2 fry it in grease # I mean you know. 888: Oh. Interviewer: {NW} They don't fry it. They don't make a hole in it. 888: They don't make a- Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 what do you # call that? Interviewer: Yeah. Uh-huh. Do you have a name for it? 888: Cupcake? Interviewer: Okay okay. Um. Oh let's see. Have you ever seen a donut that's fried and you know it's just like a regular donut? Uh it has three little strips across the hole like that. 888: No not really. I've never seen any like that. Interviewer: Me either. 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Um. What do you have-what do you sometimes have for breakfast in the morning and you have molasses or syrup or something like that on it? 888: Uh pancakes. Interviewer: Okay okay uh. Let's see. You might go to the store to buy two what of flour? 888: Two sacks of flour. Interviewer: Okay and they'd be what each? They'd weigh how much each? 888: About two pounds each. Interviewer: Okay um. Let's see. Oh what is that stuff that you use to make bread rise? It's not baking powder and it's not soda. It comes in a little package and it's dry and granulated. 888: Uh to make it rise? Interviewer: Mm-hmm 888: All I can think of is shake and bake. #1 {D:crouton} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: stuff that you mix cake and stuff rise. Interviewer: Mm-hmm okay. Okay. What do you call the two parts of an egg? 888: The yolk and- the yolk and the gluey. Interviewer: And the what? 888: The gluey. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NS} Interviewer: Okay I like that. {NS} Uh what-what color is the yolk? 888: Yellow. Interviewer: Okay um. If you cook-if you cook them in hot-hot water you'd say you have hard- what? 888: Boiled eggs. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If you crack them and just let them fall out into the water and the water's going mad you know you what kind of egg is that? 888: I don't know what you'd call that kind of egg. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. Let's see. What do you call the salt-cured or sugared-cured meat that you might boil with greens? 888: Uh bacon- back fat. Interviewer: Okay okay. What if it didn't have any lean to it and it was just all fat? Would-would you call it any different? 888: Fat. Interviewer: Okay. What if it was all-what if it was lean and didn't have much fat? What would you call it? Anything different? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. If you cut down the side of a hog what do you call that that you cut off? 888: What do you call the side of it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: The ribs. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um. What do you call the kind of meat that you buy sliced thin to eat with eggs? 888: Bacon. Interviewer: Okay. Now what do you call the outside edge of the bacon? 888: The outside? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay mm sometimes it's kind of hard and you have to cut it off. 888: Sometimes it's kind of hard and you have to cut it off. Off of what? Interviewer: The-off of the bacon so you know you can before you can fry it so you can eat it. 888: Fat. Interviewer: Okay um {X} other edge. Like there's the fat edge you know and there's the lean edge and this is usually on the lean edge. You ever heard of anything like that? 888: No. Interviewer: It's usually already cut off when you get bacon yeah. Um. What do you call the meat that comes in little links on a chain? 888: Sausage. Interviewer: Okay. What do you call the person who kills the meat and then he sells it? 888: The butcher. Interviewer: Okay. And if meat's been kept to long you say that the meat has- 888: Spoiled. Interviewer: Okay. And after you butcher a hog what do you make with the meat from its head? Ever heard of anything like that? 888: Uh. What you make from the meat from his head? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: {NS} Interviewer: #1 {X} # 888: #2 I guess you just # I don't know I guess you just eat the meat off his head. I never had no name for it. Interviewer: Yeah. Sounds gross doesn't it? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Um have you ever heard of anything that you any kind of uh thing that you'd eat by cooking and then you grind up and you cook the hog liver? 888: Cook the hog liver? No I sure haven't. Interviewer: Okay You're going to love this have you heard of anything that had hog blood? 888: No way. Interviewer: {NW} 888: #1 I never had nothing. Wouldn't want it. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} 888: {NW} Interviewer: This is making the french fries 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 from lunch # not do too well. 888: Yeah just got through eating a hamburger and french fries myself Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 and {NW} I don't want # come any back up. Interviewer: You going to spoil it. Um okay did you ever hear of a juice like from like they take the juice from from the meat you know that comes off a hog's head or maybe from uh the liver and then they cook it-stir it up with corn meal And maybe some hog meat? And then they cook it and later after it gets cold they slice it and fry it. Have you ever heard anything like that? 888: No I sure haven't. Interviewer: Okay. Suppose you kept butter too long it doesn't taste good how would you say it tastes what? 888: Spoiled. Interviewer: Okay um what would-did they used to call fixed sour milk people used to keep on hand? 888: Buttermilk. Interviewer: Okay it's thicker than that. It's-it's like the next stage you know it's kind of globby sort of. 888: Sour? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: That's what I'd call it just sour {X} Interviewer: Okay have you ever heard it called uh curdled milk or cluttered milk or lobbered milk or lopperd 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 milk or # any of those? 888: No I sure haven't. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} do you happen to know what you'd make from that? 888: #1 What would I make for it? I wouldn't make # Interviewer: #2 That stuff? Yeah like the # next stage. Okay you got first you got sour milk um yeah buttermilk sour milk or something like that and then it gets kind of thick and then you can fix it where it can just get real lumpy. And white white lumps. 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What do you call that stuff? You can buy it at the store now but 888: #1 Cottage cheese # Interviewer: #2 Could we? # Okay do you have any other names for that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. When you first milk the cow there might be some hairs or some impurities like that in the milk {NW} 888: {NW} Interviewer: So you'd have to probably what the milk? 888: Sift it out. Interviewer: #1 Okay or # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: through if you pour it through a cloth you'd say that you have to? 888: Sift it. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Let's see. What do you call something that's like a fruit pie like it has several layers of of like apples and then dough and apples and dough like that? 888: Apples and dough? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: What do you call it? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I guess an apple pie. Interviewer: Okay would you ever-if it's-if it's deep and you don't get it {X} nice little pie shaped things you know but you have to kind of kind of dish it out you know you put it in a bowl probably or something would you call it anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay okay um if somebody has a good appetite you might say he sure does like to put away his? 888: Food. Interviewer: Okay and um. What would you call milk or cream mixed with sugar and nutmeg that you might pour over pie? You have a name for that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um food taken between regular meals you'd call a 888: Uh Between meals? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Just a uh {NW} Interviewer: Think of a re- 888: A snack. Interviewer: A what? 888: Snack. Interviewer: Okay. Would that be a large or a small quantity? 888: Small quantity. Interviewer: Okay um you might say I will what breakfast at seven o'clock. 888: I will eat breakfast at seven o'clock. Interviewer: Okay. And yesterday at that time I had already? 888: Ate breakfast. Interviewer: Okay and last week I mm breakfast everyday. 888: Ate breakfast everyday. Interviewer: Okay um. Let's see. Okay if you want some coffee and there wasn't any coffee ready you'd have to get up and what some coffee? 888: Fix some coffee. Interviewer: Okay um what do you drink when you're just plain thirsty? 888: Water. Interviewer: Okay and you drink it out of a? 888: Cup or #1 a glass. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Okay what was that last thing you said? 888: Cup. Interviewer: Before that uh uh after that? 888: Glass. Interviewer: Okay um You might say the glass fell off the sink and? 888: Broke. Interviewer: Okay and you might say I didn't mean to? 888: Break it. Interviewer: Okay but somebody has? 888: Broke it. Interviewer: Okay. Um you might say we sure do what a lot of water? 888: Use a lot of water. Interviewer: Okay or? 888: Drink a lot of water. Interviewer: Okay uh but if I ask you how much did you drink you might say I what a lot? 888: Drink a lot. Interviewer: Okay and then you might ask me how much have you? 888: Drank. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if dinner's on the table and the family's all standing around waiting to begin you might say to them go ahead and? 888: Fix dinner. Interviewer: Okay but they're standing there you've already 888: #1 Oh serve dinner. # Interviewer: #2 fixed dinner. # Okay okay um. Okay say somebody comes in the dining room and uh you don't want him to have to stand up and so you ask him why don't you? 888: Please sit down. Interviewer: Okay and so so then he mm and began to eat. 888: Um the guest eat? Interviewer: Okay you told him to sit down so then he {NS} 888: Sit down. Interviewer: Okay and nobody else was standing they had all 888: Sat down. Interviewer: Okay um if you want somebody {NS} not to wait until the potatoes are passed like they're right in front of him already you know. You might say go ahead and? 888: Pass the potatoes. Interviewer: Mm uh 888: #1 Serve the potatoes. # Interviewer: #2 go ahead and # something yourself? 888: Please pass the potatoes. Interviewer: Uh okay you want him to get the potatoes himself you know so you might say mm? 888: Help yourself. Interviewer: Okay. Um uh so he went ahead and he? 888: Helped himself. Interviewer: Okay and if s-let's see since he had already? 888: Helped himself. Interviewer: Okay I ask him to pass to me. Okay if somebody was working you might offer to what? 888: Pass the potatoes? Interviewer: Uh okay somebody's just doing a job working. 888: Oh working? Interviewer: Yeah and you might offer to what him? 888: Pay him? Interviewer: {NW} Same verb we've been working on. Somebody helped himself a minute ago but you might offer to? 888: Help yourself? Interviewer: Oh-okay okay. Um. If you-you're at dinner at somebody's house and you decide not to eat something you might say oh no thank you I don't. 888: Feel like eating right now. Interviewer: Okay but you-you're eating. You just don't want one particular thing. Like maybe you really hate English peas. 888: Oh. Interviewer: You know and so you just say but you know you're being nice? 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Uh what? 888: Oh thank you but you'd be No thank you but um just don't just don't want nothing I guess. Interviewer: You what? 888: No thank you I al- already ate. Interviewer: Oh okay. 888: #1 But you saying # Interviewer: #2 um # We-well see you're already sitting down eating dinner. 888: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # You're eating with them and then they pass you these English peas which you hate. So you say well thank you but I don't? 888: Oh. Interviewer: What? 888: Eat English peas. Interviewer: Okay okay um. Let's see. Oh if you got some food that's been cooked and served a second time you'd say the food has been what? 888: Left-over. Interviewer: Okay or um okay and for food that's been left-over you'd call it? Um we don't have much to eat all we have is? 888: Left-overs. Interviewer: Okay um. If it's-okay talking about being cooked the second time would you say anything in reference to it being heated or warmed or anything like that again? 888: Heated. Interviewer: What what would you use it in a sentence for me? 888: It's been heated again. Interviewer: Okay okay um okay you put the food in your mouth and then you begin to? 888: Chew. Interviewer: Okay um okay things like carrots and peas and beets and beans and junk like that you'd call? 888: Vegetables. Interviewer: Okay and a small plot near the house where you might grow vegetables you'd call a? 888: Garden. Interviewer: Okay and um what-what do you call a particularly southern kind of food they usually serve it for breakfast with sausage and eggs? It's made out of ground up corn ground up real fine and boiled and it's usually kind of white looking. And they put salt and pepper and butter on it or maybe gravy sometimes. {NS} 888: Repeat that please? Interviewer: Okay we don't have it too much down here but sometimes we do. And if you go to the deep south you'll get it for breakfast every time you know. This it's corn but it's all ground up and real fine little things about like that. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And you'll get it uh dished out on your plate it's kind of spreads out like mashed potatoes or something. It's white looking. 888: No I've never seen or never eaten that Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 before. # Interviewer: Would you ever call-have you ever heard it called anything like uh um samp or hominy or grits or hominy grits? Anything like that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Have you ever heard of a dish that's made with whole grains of corn and they're usually pretty big about like that? And they leech the cover off the corn so it's kind of soft. Sometimes it's white and sometimes it's yellow. Have you ever heard of anything like that? 888: No I sure haven't. Interviewer: Oh I have and I hate it. {NW} 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Consider yourself lucky. 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # What do you call that food that's the staple food of the Chinese and the Japanese? 888: Chinese food. Interviewer: Okay but you think of Chinese and you think of them eating what with chopsticks? 888: Food. Interviewer: Yeah but that white stuff that they eat. 888: Oh rice. Interviewer: Okay um. What are some names for illegal alcoholic beverages? They're usually made at home out back in a still. 888: Illegal beverages? Interviewer: Yeah alcoholic. Like they used to during prohibition you know if you wanted any liquor you had to make it yourself because it was illegal 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And uh an uh so they the people up in the mountains became famous for making this stuff. Have you ever heard it called any thing in particular? 888: Bootleggers. Interviewer: Okay okay um. Have you ever heard it called anything like uh moonshine or home brew or white lightning or bust head or {D: pop skull} or anything like that? 888: Moonshine. Interviewer: Okay um. If something's cooking and it makes a good impression on your nose you might say to someone mm just what that? 888: Smells good. Interviewer: Okay okay. Would you say just smell that or just smell of that? 888: Smell that. Interviewer: Okay um. Okay you crush sugar cane and you boil the juice then you make what out of it? 888: Sugar? Interviewer: Okay you can you can-you can make sugar but if you boil the juice you're going to get a sticky sort of stuff that you might pour on pancakes. 888: Syrup. Interviewer: Okay okay um. You know of anything else that you might pour on pancakes like syrup but? 888: Honey? Interviewer: Okay okay and it's it's made from the same stuff but it's thicker. 888: Um. {NS} Interviewer: I think 888: It's made thicker. Interviewer: {X} Sometimes they use it for um feed grain. I mean they put it in feed grain around here for cattle. All you ever use is syrup huh? 888: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Okay okay um. Let's see. Sometimes on maple syrup you'd see um on there you'd see oh this is not an imitation this is the real thing you know they want to tell you it's not an imitation so they'll this is gen- what? Maple syrup. 888: Genuine syrup. Interviewer: Okay um if sugar isn't pre-you know usually you go to the store and you get a package of sugar and it's already packaged. 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: But it used to be it's come in big barrels or something like that and they had to dish it out. And uh if it comes like that it's not pre-packaged. But they'd have to weigh it out of the barrel. You'd say it's sold in what? 888: {D: foreign place?} Interviewer: Okay um what would you call the sweet spread that people make by boiling sugar and the juice of like apples or peaches or strawberries? 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: What would I call it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. I had some on my toast this morning. 888: Cinnamon? Interviewer: Uh this is this is like uh you call it strawberry or grape? 888: Apple butter. Strawberry butter. Interviewer: Okay okay do you have another name for a thing that's kind of like apple butter only it's usually like if it's grape you'd call it grape? 888: Grape jelly. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Um what do you usually keep on the table to season food with? 888: Salt and pepper. Interviewer: Okay and if there's a bowl of fruit say there's some peaches or some apples okay and somebody offers you a peach and you say no give me? 888: An apple. Interviewer: Okay um. You might say it wasn't these boys it must of been one of? 888: them. Interviewer: Okay um. You might say you might just point right across the road and say well he doesn't live here he lives? 888: Over there. Interviewer: Okay. And at a greater distance away you might say he lives? 888: That a way. Interviewer: Okay um. You might say don't do it this way I mean don't do it that way do it? 888: This way. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If somebody speaks to you and you don't hear what he says what you do to make him repeat it? 888: Beg your pardon. Interviewer: Okay um. If a man has plenty of money he doesn't have anything to worry about. But life is hard on a man what? 888: Life is hard on a man um. Interviewer: Okay a man has plenty of money doesn't have anything to worry about. But it's hard on a man? 888: Because he's poor. Interviewer: Okay all right um. {NW} If you have a lot of peach trees you'd say you have a peach what? 888: If you have a lot of peach trees Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 then # so you have a lot of peach uh. Interviewer: You have a Bunch a trees you call a? 888: {X} Interviewer: {NW} Mm. 888: Lot of peach trees. Interviewer: Yeah. What would you call that bunch of peach trees? 888: Lot. Interviewer: Okay uh you might ask somebody if you're walking around you know and you ask somebody if that's his bunch of peach trees and he says no I'm just a neighbor and then he points to somebody else and says he's the man what? 888: He's the man that own the peach trees. Interviewer: Okay um you might say uh my mother's not a nurse but I have a friend 888: that is? Interviewer: {NW} But you're talking about her mother you're not talking about her. 888: Oh. Interviewer: My mother's not a nurse but I have a friend? 888: That she is. Interviewer: Her mother. 888: Her mother is. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 I mean # Interviewer: okay yeah yeah okay now uh my mother's not a nurse but I have a friend. 888: That is? Interviewer: Her mother. 888: Her mother. Interviewer: Okay yeah okay can you say the whole thing? 888: Oh. Interviewer: Talking about my mother and then friend's mother okay? 888: My mother and my friend my mother and her friend I mean my mother is a nurse but my friend- what'd you say? Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 repeat that again? # Interviewer: But okay you're on the right track. My mother's not a nurse but I have a friend? 888: Oh my mother is not a nurse but I have a friend is. Interviewer: Her mother. 888: Her mother is. Interviewer: Okay okay yeah um. Uh oh see what do you call the inside part of a cherry? The part that you don't eat? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay uh do you ever bite down on one? 888: A cherry? Interviewer: Yeah on the inside of a cherry. And like get the hard part? 888: I don't know. Didn't notice there was a hard part. Interviewer: Okay okay uh. Okay on the inside of a peach what do you call the hard thing on the inside of a peach? 888: Seed. Interviewer: Okay. And the two kinds of peaches. There's the kind where uh there's the kind where if you cut into it you have to cut the seed out because the meat sticks to it you know? And then there's the other kind where if you cut into it you can just break it open and the seed will just kind of fall out. Do you have names for those two different kinds? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um after you've eaten an apple the part you have left is the 888: core Interviewer: Okay. And uh. {NS} In case they come looking indoors. {NW} Uh let's see. Did you ever cut up apples or peaches and dry them and say you're making what? {NS} 888: Peach pie. Interviewer: Okay you ever hear the dried up pieces of apple and what all called {D:snits}? Do you ever hear that? 888: No. {NS} Interviewer: Um what do you call the kind of nuts that you pull up out of the ground and roast? 888: The kind of nuts that you roast? Interviewer: Uh-huh.You pull them up out of the ground. That's where they-they grow in the ground. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: #1 Okay wha-uh # 888: #2 I don't know. # Interviewer: Um there are some kind of nuts that you get like at the circus or the picture show 888: Oh you're talking about roasted nuts? Peanuts. Interviewer: Okay okay. You know any other names? 888: Plain nuts? No. That's the only kind of name I know. Interviewer: Okay okay um what all other kinds of nuts are there? 888: What other kinds? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Peanuts. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Roasted nuts. Interviewer: What? 888: Roasted nuts. Interviewer: Okay . 888: #1 and regular. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Or is that a peanut? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay what other kinds other than peanuts you know like peanuts? 888: #1 Pecans # Interviewer: #2 Grow on trees? # 888: Pecans. Interviewer: Okay what else? 888: Apple nuts. Not- I mean coconut nuts. Interviewer: Okay. What else? 888: And Interviewer: Mm 888: That's all I know. Interviewer: You can get a Hershey bar just plain or you can get it with 888: #1 Peanuts. # Interviewer: #2 almonds. # 888: Almonds. Interviewer: Okay and then there's another kind of nut that um they're round and they're about that big. {NS} And they're super hard. I mean if you try and break them you have to have a hammer. 888: A walnut. Interviewer: Okay. Uh the hard part of the walnut what do you call that? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay. The part that you have to break? 888: Oh. I guess the nut inside. Interviewer: Okay on a pecan what would you call that? That part that you have to you know you have to use a nut cracker to get through? 888: Oh. The shell. Interviewer: Okay. And then you know when a pecan falls off of off of the tree it has this kind of green covering on the outside of the shell. Have you seen that? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay and yeah eventually that green covering will kind of dry up and fall off. And and if you if you try and pull it off while it's still green it stains you hands and gets you all sticky and things. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Do you have a name for that green thing? 888: Just that a shell. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Okay let's see. What all kinds of things would you grow in a garden? 888: In a garden? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Tomatoes apples oranges greens {D: co greens} Interviewer: What was that last thing? 888: {D: co greens} {C: maybe okra?} Interviewer: Oh yeah okay yeah I like that. 888: Greens Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What kind of greens? 888: Corn. Mustard greens. Interviewer: Uh-huh any other kind of greens? 888: Collard greens Interviewer: Yeah. Anything else? 888: And vegetables. Interviewer: Any other kind of greens? 888: Um no. Interviewer: Okay okay what are some more vegetables? 888: Cabbage. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Oranges. {X} Garden but I would- you know some places you know you can find them in a garden. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And you can plant corn tomatoes that's about everything I need. Interviewer: Okay okay um if somebody had say there had been a bowl of oranges standing on a table. Been there for two or three days you know and then one day you come in and there's only one orange left you'd say the oranges are. 888: All gone. Interviewer: Okay uh {NS} why don't you say that again I think that kid yelled about the same time. 888: The oranges is all gone. Interviewer: Okay uh {NW} what do you call the little vegetables that they're about like that that size and they're white on the inside but they're red on the outside and the taste kind of hot and peppery? 888: Peppers jalapeños. Interviewer: Okay um they're kind of like different from jalapeño pepper. They grow-they're roots really and you pull them up out of the ground and uh they're they're more like 888: How big are they? Interviewer: They're little about like that they're more like they look sort of like a turnip. You know the texture of a turnip. What it's like and everything. 888: You ain't talking about uh stuffed peppers is you? Interviewer: No uh-uh those all grow above the ground. This is a root really. It grows in the ground. 888: Oh and it's white inside. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: How long is it? Interviewer: Oh sometimes they're long sometimes they get long like this but the one the ones I've seen are usually kind of round about like that. 888: Onions. Interviewer: Okay well this is sort of like an onion uh. You get them in salads a lot like you'll have lettuce and all that stuff tossed up in a salad and then you'll have these little things and they're sliced. And the slices look white except for the edge and they're red around the edge. You know what they call those? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um. {NW} What do you call the kind of tomatoes that never get any bigger than about like this? {NS} 888: What do you call them? Interviewer: Uh-huh do you have a name for them? 888: Small tomatoes. Interviewer: Okay uh. Along with steak you might have a baked? {NS} 888: Roast. I mean along with steak? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: You may have a baked {NS} potatoes. Interviewer: Okay um {X} When you say potato what do you mean? what does it look like? Will you describe it for me? 888: It's got a brown shell on the outside and the jacket. On the inside it's white. And you can cook them boil them mash them Interviewer: Okay okay and are there any other kinds of potatoes? 888: Is there any more? French fries. Interviewer: Okay. I mean that are different different you know when they're raw. Like do you eat a different kind of potato at Thanksgiving or Christmas or any time like that? 888: Sweet potato. Interviewer: Okay what's a sweet potato? 888: Sweet potato's orange on the inside. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: It's got a brown jacket on the- a reddish jacket on the outside. Interviewer: Uh. Uh-huh okay. Okay. Have you ever heard the word yam? 888: Yam? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um. What do you call the kind of onions that that don't get big and fat like this but you pull them up and they're still kind of straight and uh young you know do you have a name for that kind of onion? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um. Let's see. Okay where were we? Oh yeah um if you leave an apple or a plum around it will dry up and what? {NS} 888: Rotten. Interviewer: Okay sometimes um the skin will get all wrinkly looking and you'd say the skin is what up? 888: Wrinkled up. Interviewer: Okay. If you stay in the bathtub too long sometimes this skin on your fingers will do that and so you say your skin's all? 888: Wrinkled. Interviewer: Okay there's another word but same thing. 888: There's another word for wrinkled? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: {X} Interviewer: Okay okay um okay you talk about cabbages earlier okay? You might say sticking back the sides you'd say these something something big. Would you just make the sentence for me? Talking about cabbage. 888: These cabbages are big. Interviewer: Okay um. What all different types of beans do you have? 888: {X} They got red beans they got plain beans they got pork and beans they got ranch style beans Interviewer: Okay what wait wait wait Go back and tell me what's what. Can you describe them for me? 888: Red beans is the kind that you know they not red you know you got to cook them and then they turn red. Interviewer: Okay are they uh are they still in the pods or 888: #1 It's # Interviewer: #2 not? # 888: still they still you know raw. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 They # hard but when you cook them they get soft. Interviewer: Okay. Usually when you pick beans off the vine they come in this long just kind of thing. And then when you open it up then the little kidney shaped things you know that are like that are in there. 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. And yeah those are the red beans. Are you talking about them little kidney shaped things or are you talking about the long pod? 888: I'm talking about the small part. You talking about snap beans. Interviewer: What are they? 888: What? Snap beans? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Snaps beans is like when you leave them in the shell and then they come out real long and green. Interviewer: Okay okay. Uh.Okay if you don't if you don't want to leave them in the shell you say you have to what the beans? 888: Peel them. Interviewer: What? 888: Peel them off the shell. Interviewer: Okay okay. Now go ahead and tell me about the different kinds of beans. 888: Well uh ranch style beans is already made in the can. You don't have to- you just heat them up and warm them. And pork and beans they already made in the can you just warm up and eat them. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay okay uh what do you call beans that are kind of green looking? and they're about this big? 888: Green beans. Interviewer: Well they're not 888: #1 Butter beans. # Interviewer: #2 What are # Mm? 888: Butter beans. Interviewer: Okay what are butter beans? 888: Butter beans is the kind that stay kind of long and not long but they're kind of shaped as a circle almost and they're kind of big. And some of them is white butter beans. Interviewer: Uh-huh is that like a green bean? 888: No. It's shaped bigger than a green bean. Green bean is shaped small and a butter bean is shaped bigger than a green bean. Interviewer: Uh-huh but otherwise they're the same shape. 888: They're the same shape. Interviewer: Mm I get it. Okay. Is there another word that you might use for green beans? 888: Another word for green beans? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 Would you ever # Okay okay um. Let's see. Talking about talking about back to when you told me about green beans. Have you ever heard anybody else call them seaweed beans or lima beans or {D: civvy} beans? 888: Lima beans. Interviewer: Okay okay uh Let's see. You might ask somebody to go buy you some lettuce and you might say go to the store and buy me three what of lettuce? 888: Heads of lettuce. Interviewer: Okay um would you ever use that that word talking about children you might say they're three 888: Children. Interviewer: Would would you ever ever use that word heads talking about children? {NS} 888: Would say yeah. Interviewer: How? Would you use it in a sentence? {NS} 888: Yeah there are three children out there. Interviewer: Okay okay um If somebody had seven boys and seven girls you might say he had a whole what of kids? 888: Lot of kids. Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever use the word passel? 888: Passel? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um when you pick corn that green covering that you take off the ears is called the? 888: Ears. Interviewer: Yeah okay yeah would you call it anything else when you take it off 888: #1 Shell. # Interviewer: #2 the thing? # What? 888: The shell. Interviewer: Okay. And when you when you take it off you say you've got to what the corn? 888: Take it off. You gotta peel the corn. Interviewer: Okay uh. Mm let's see. What do you call the kind of corn that is tender enough to eat just right off the cob? What do you call that kind of corn? 888: What do you call it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: That's ready to eat off the cob? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Uh. {D: rich corn} I guess. Interviewer: Okay or if you just if you just eat it you know like this you say we're going to have what for dinner tonight? {NS} 888: Ear corn. Interviewer: Okay okay. Would you ever-have you ever heard anybody call it sweet corn or uh corn on the cob or uh table corn or anything like that? 888: {N} Corn on the cob. Interviewer: Okay um. Have you ever heard the terms roasted ears or mutton corn? Have you ever heard anyone of those? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um What do you call that little thing that grows up at the top of a corn stalk? 888: Bean stalk. Interviewer: Okay um what do you call that thing that you know when you graduate from high school that thing that hangs off the cap? 888: Chand- chandelier. Interviewer: A-a what? Sometimes they let you keep them or you have you 888: #1 Yeah I know what # Interviewer: #2 to buy them. # 888: you're talking about. Uh. {D: chantier or something} I forgot the name Interviewer: #1 Okay okay # 888: #2 of it. # Interviewer: Um. What do you call that stringy stuff that comes out the that that when you you take the the outside of the corn that green part of the corn off inside there's some stringy stuff you know around the ear of corn. What do you call that stuff? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um. What do you make a jack-o-lantern out of? 888: Pumpkins. Interviewer: Okay and what do you kind of call the vegetable that's that's about this big and it's kind of it's big down at the bottom like this and it has sort of a skinny little crook neck and it's yellow? 888: Squash. Interviewer: Okay uh. What all different kinds of melons are there? Can you describe them for me? 888: Watermelon. Interviewer: Okay. 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 What's it like? # Can you describe it? 888: Watermelon is red inside and got black seeds on the inside and Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: and it's good to eat when you're really hungry. Interviewer: {NW} Do you know of any different names for different varieties of watermelon? 888: Oh they got they got uh green watermelon they got orange watermelon. I just say watermelon. That's all I know. Interviewer: Okay okay what other kinds of melons are there? 888: What other kinds of melons are there? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: They got pumpkin melons. Interviewer: What's that? 888: They shaped just like a pumpkin. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh. What do they look like inside? 888: Some of them is orange inside. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And some you know is some is orange and some is green. Interviewer: Uh uh-huh. Have you ever heard them called anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: Is this the same thing as a cantaloupe or is a cantaloupe different? 888: It's no it's different from a cantaloupe. Interviewer: How is it what is it different what's it What's the difference between that and a cantaloupe? 888: Well cantaloupe I mean watermelon it got seeds all inside and cantaloupe it got seeds just right in the middle. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay. What about a pumpkin melon? That is what you call it pumpkin melon? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Yeah what-where are the seeds in that? 888: It's in the same it's just like a watermelon inside and there's all the little seeds but you know seeds in a cantaloupe is just right in the middle but they all around the watermelon is round and the seeds is just you know all the way around. Interviewer: Okay okay what other kinds of melon are there? Anything else? 888: That's all the melons I know of. Interviewer: Okay um what do you call those little uh white usually white about this tall umbrella shaped things that grow up in the yard after rain? Some of them are good to eat and some of them aren't. 888: Repeat it please? Interviewer: Okay there's a they're shaped like a an umbrella. 888: Oh mushrooms. Interviewer: Okay okay. Do you know any other names for those? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay if if they're uh if they're not good to eat what would you call it? 888: What would I call it? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: No good I guess. Interviewer: Okay okay um okay if a man has a sore throat so that the {NS} {X} throat is all swollen you might say he couldn't eat that piece of meat because he couldn't? 888: Swallow it. Interviewer: Okay and uh. Some people smoke pipes and other people smoke? 888: Cigarettes. Interviewer: Okay or they're brown and they're 888: #1 Oh cigars. # Interviewer: #2 big. # Okay. And say you were at a party and there are a bunch of people there and everybody's having a good time and there's some people standing around the piano one guy would be playing the piano everybody else would probably be? 888: Sitting around. Interviewer: #1 Okay is it # 888: #2 Or dancing. # Interviewer: Oh okay or they might be dancing or they might be? 888: Listening. Interviewer: Okay or if they weren't just listening they'd probably be? {NS} 888: Talking. Interviewer: Okay okay and if somebody told a funny story then they'd probably all be? 888: Laughing. Interviewer: Okay uh. Um if somebody offers to do you a favor you might say well I appreciate it but I don't want to be what? To anybody. 888: {X} I mean if somebody asks to do a favor for you? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And you say you don't want to be asking for too much. Interviewer: Okay um if somebody asks you bout doing a certain job you might say sure I mm do it? 888: I'd like to do it. Interviewer: Okay or you want them to know that you're able to do it so you say sure I? 888: I'm able to do it. Interviewer: Okay but another word for? 888: Sure I mean yeah I'd do it. Interviewer: Okay or um they say can you do it and you'd say sure I? 888: Sure I can do it. Interviewer: Okay uh and if you're not able to do something you might say well I'd like to but I? 888: Like I'd like to but. Interviewer: I 888: I can't. Interviewer: I what? 888: Can't. Interviewer: Okay um if somebody asks you about sundown to do some work and you might say well I got up to work before sun up and I mm all I'm going to today. 888: All I'm going to do for today. Interviewer: Okay I what all I'm going to do for today? 888: Oh uh that's all I'm going to do for today. Interviewer: Okay okay uh say there was a terrible accident up the road but there's no need to call a doctor because the victim was what by the time we got there? 888: Dead. Interviewer: Okay uh you might say in a dangerous situation he mm to be careful? Interviewer: {NS} Um you might say {NS} in a dangerous situation he mm to be careful? 888: He should have been careful. Interviewer: Okay uh I might say um I'll dare you to go through a graveyard at night but I'll bet you? 888: Go through it in the day. Interviewer: Okay but you- at night I bet you what? 888: Wouldn't go through it at night. Interviewer: Okay um. Uh your mother might say you aren't doing what you what to do? 888: Supposed to do. Interviewer: Okay uh if a boy got a whipping you'd say I bet he did something he? 888: Shouldn't have done. Interviewer: Okay. And uh refusing something in a very strong way you'd say no matter how many times you ask me to do that I? 888: {NS} Wouldn't do it. Interviewer: Okay um. When you get something done that was hard work and you did it all by yourself if there was a friend just standing around without helping you might say well you what helped? 888: Should of helped. Interviewer: Okay uh let's see suggesting the possibility of being able to do something you might say well I'm not sure but I might what do it? 888: And I may I may maybe do it? May I mean Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I may not do it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. Would you # 888: #2 I mean. # Interviewer: ever say might could? I might could do it. Would you ever say something that way? 888: Might could yeah. Interviewer: Okay okay um what do you call a kind of owl the this-the kind of bird that goes who? 888: An owl. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Oh well. Uh okay um. Do you know of a smaller kind of owl that uh makes a makes a real loud shrill sort of noise? 888: {X} Uh a wolf. Interviewer: Uh it's a it's a kind of owl it's a some kind of owl. Have you ever heard of another kind of owl? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um what do you call a kind of bird that drills holes in trees? 888: A woodpecker. Interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard a class of people compared to woodpeckers? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard that word used in the other way that sounds sort of like that? 888: {NS} No I sure haven't. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} what do you call there's a there's a kind of woodpecker that's bigger. That's about the size of a half-grown chicken. Do you have a name for that? 888: That's the size of a chicken? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: That makes a lot of noise? Interviewer: Um I don't know. It's about the size of a half-grown chicken. It's not quite as big as a whole chicken. 888: And you say what? Interviewer: It's-it's a kind of woodpecker. Do you know another name for it? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um. What do you call a black and white animal that has a powerful smell? 888: A skunk. Interviewer: Okay know any other names? 888: Pole cat. Interviewer: Okay uh what kind of-what kinds of animals come and raid hen nests? Do you know? 888: Pole cat. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 888: Skunk. Interviewer: Okay 888: #1 That's- oh. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: Just besides that? Interviewer: Yeah uh besides that. 888: Um. Uh. Interviewer: They come and get the eggs you know? 888: Cats. Interviewer: Okay you might say talking about all these kinds of animals that do that you might say I'm going to get me a gun and some traps and stop those whats? 888: Varmints Interviewer: Okay um what is a varmint exactly? Would you-would you tell me what you mean by that? 888: Something that you don't something that you don't like and something that you did. Interviewer: That you what? 888: Something that you don't like and something that you know you did something wrong. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Okay is it always an animal or can it mean people 888: #1 It can mean # Interviewer: #2 or # 888: people too. Interviewer: How would you use that? Would you use it in a sentence for me talking about some people? 888: Um that varmint that varmint did something wrong to me. Interviewer: Okay okay um um um let's see. What do you call the little bushy-tailed animals that run up and down trees? 888: Bush- bush- bushy tailed animals that run up and down trees? Squirrels. Interviewer: Okay are there different kinds and colors and sizes and stuff? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um what do you call a thing that looks kind of like a squirrel but it's about- it's smaller. It's about this long and it has a little short tail and it's got black and white stripes on its back and it it has little bitty stubby short ears and it's real cute? And they they keep nuts in their jaws sometimes. And uh I don't think they climb trees. They might climb little stumps or something they don't climb trees. And if you go someplace like like Colorado or someplace up in the national parks they're so tame they'll come up uh to the pass you know and beg for food. They sit up like this and beg for food. When they sit up they're about that tall. 888: Squirrels? Interviewer: Uh what kind of squirrel? It's like a squirrel but it's 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 not # What? 888: A monkey? Interviewer: No it's it's2 {X} {C: engine revving drowns out her voice} It's sort of like a squirrel but it's not exactly a squirrel. Have you ever heard anything like that called a a grinny or a picket pen or a ground squirrel or a chipmunk or anything like that? 888: Chipmunk. Interviewer: What is a chipmunk exactly? 888: Chipmunk. I guess something that an animal or little something that comes out something like that you know begs for food. Interviewer: That what? Oh begs 888: Got like a little animal that like a monkey Interviewer: Uh-huh yeah. Do we-do y'all have them around here? 888: At the zoo yeah. Interviewer: Okay um {NW} What kind of freshwater fish can you get around here if you go fishing in a creek around here? 888: You can get you know speckled trout down there on I think sometime {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And you can gets a couple of catfishes up there. Couple of perches. That's all. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What about what about saltwater fish? What kind of saltwater fish can you get? 888: Saltwater fish? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I couldn't say cause I ain't been fishing. Interviewer: Okay okay Um let's see um if you go some place to eat seafood and you get a kind of seafood that comes in a shell like this you might get it-you might call it a what? 888: Comes in a sea shell? Interviewer: Uh-huh comes in a you know like you open it like that. 888: Fish. Interviewer: Uh-huh well it's-it's a it's a shellfish I guess but it's not a fish regular fish fish but the shell looks like that Sometimes you can find pearls in them. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay. Um let's see. What do you call those things that you hear making noise around a pond at night? 888: Frogs. Interviewer: Okay any particular kind of frogs? 888: Bullfrogs. Interviewer: Okay um there's another kind of frog that they get up in trees and they have little tiny little tiny voices that you hear after rain sometimes. Do you have another name for that kind of frog? 888: Tree frog. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} what about a brown kind of frog that hops around your garden and eats insects and sometimes they're blamed for uh giving somebody warts? 888: Uh bullfrog? Interviewer: Okay okay um If you go fishing what would you put on your hook to catch fish with? 888: A bait. Or worm worm or Interviewer: okay 888: shrimp or something like that. Interviewer: A what-a what? 888: Worm or shrimp. Interviewer: Okay okay um {NS} tell me about the shrimp um you might go to a fish market and they ask for a few pounds of? 888: Worms? Interviewer: Mm okay did you say shrimp? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay so you might- if you want something you know to eat? 888: Oh you want something to eat. Interviewer: Yeah some-some shrimp. 888: Oh. Interviewer: You might go to the market and ask for a few pounds of? 888: Shrimp? Interviewer: Okay okay uh now is that the same thing that you use for bait? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. What kinds of worms would you use? 888: Worms out the ground lives in the ground. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: #1 Earthworms. # Interviewer: #2 Uh # {NS} Mm? 888: Earth worms. Interviewer: Oh okay let's see um what do you call the hard shelled thing that pulls its neck and its legs into it's shell when you touch it? 888: A turtle. Interviewer: Okay and um what do you call something that's like a turtle and it lives on dry land? {NS} Do you have a name for something like that? 888: Something that looks like a turtle and lives on dry land? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh what do you call a little thing that that you find in fresh water streams and it's got claws snappers? Like that. 888: Crab fish. {NS} Interviewer: Okay. Uh what did you call it? 888: Crab #1 fish. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Um how big are they usually? 888: They're about {NS} several uh two inches I mean like three three two inches big. Three or four inches. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Some is bigger. If you you know catch them. Because when I used to live on the west side we used to catch them over at this creek and you sometime you get them about five inches big or ten inches. Interviewer: That's pretty big. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Don't think I'd want to see one that big. 888: We used to put them we used to catch them we used to you know use uh some kind of string {X} string net tie the string on the net and that puts some bait right in the middle of the net on the string Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 They would # fall right into the water and they would see it and they would get right on top of that string and we'd be on top of the bridge we just pull it right up. It'd be on there {X} put them in some water you know we don't eat them you know. {X} Some people like to eat them you know but I never did eat them. Interviewer: I never did either. 888: {X} Some people you know would pay us for catching them and then they would eat them. Interviewer: Huh. 888: {D: But they said it's good strip you know inside.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: They claws is kinda they got stripping inside. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh what-what do you mean they've got what inside now? 888: {D: They got strimp on the inside of their body} Interviewer: Yeah what do you mean #1 by that? # 888: #2 They got # {X} That's good to eat. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: You put you know just fry it. Some people just fry the whole thing. Interviewer: Oh. 888: But they cut they head off. Interviewer: Yuck. 888: I couldn't eat them. I never did eat them. My mother don't like them. I don't like them. My family don't like them. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And you know we'd sit like I didn't have nothing else to do me and my friend we just you know go on down to the creek catch crab fish. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh. 888: Mothers used to- everybody used to be scared of it. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: But sometimes you know if you catch it they'll pinch you. Interviewer: Yeah I know. {NW} Yes. 888: They used to have some big ones up that H-U-V. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Long time ago. I don't know what they did with them. Used to be real bigs ones. Interviewer: For sale? 888: No they was just for show. Interviewer: Oh. 888: Used to be inside of a showcase. Glass showcase where you can you know they have water and stuff in it but they be swimming around in there. Interviewer: Uh. 888: That's when I was real small when I used to step on {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: See some pretty big crabs. I didn't know what they was way back then you know. But I know what they was now. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: because I see them all the time. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay. Um what do you call that um insect that flies around the light and it tries to fly into it and when you grab it powder comes off in your hand? #1 Almost # 888: #2 Butterfly. # Caterpillar butterfly Interviewer: Oh okay what was the second thing you said? 888: Butterfly. Interviewer: Okay but after that you said 888: Caterpillar. Interviewer: Okay um um this is kind of like a butterfly only the colors aren't bright you know it's like brown or something dull. {NS} What do you call-what do you call the things that {X} get in your wool clothes and eat them up if you're not careful? 888: Moths moth moths. Interviewer: Okay okay and if you had just one of those you'd call it a 888: Moths. Interviewer: Okay uh what do you call the things that fly around at night and flash their lights on and off? 888: Light bug. Interviewer: Mm they're insects. 888: Oh. Interviewer: Yeah what'd you say? 888: Light bugs. Interviewer: Oh. 888: You said on and off or what? Interviewer: Yeah insect that flies around 888: Uh you call it an insect I call it {NW} light bug. Interviewer: Okay 888: #1 They insects # Interviewer: #2 okay # 888: but you know. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: {X} I just call them light bugs. Interviewer: Light-light bulbs? 888: Yeah they flash on and off. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: We used to catch them a long Interviewer: #1 Yeah what'd # 888: #2 time ago. # Interviewer: you do with them? 888: We used to you know get wet dog paste and put them in a jar and look at them light up and up. Off and on off and on. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 That's what # you're talking about light bugs right? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And on and off yeah. Interviewer: Yeah yeah that's right. That's what I'm talking about. Okay uh what do you call the kind of insect that flies around at night and bites? 888: Mosquitoes. Interviewer: Okay uh there's a there's a thing that flies around an insect that flies around that eats mosquitoes and it has a body that's about that long and it's got two pairs of about real shiny wings and the wings are about like that. And uh sometimes the body's blue and sometimes it's black sometimes it's gray and they're some of them are about this big but sometimes they get real big. 888: Bats? Interviewer: No this is an insect that's smaller than that. And it uh they hover around like lakes or something you know like this And they eat uh they eat mosquitoes mostly. 888: They eat mosquitoes? Interviewer: Yeah have you ever heard them called anything like uh um 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 mosquito # mm? 888: Go ahead. Interviewer: Would you- what were you going to say? 888: Uh dragonfly. Interviewer: Okay do you know any other names for that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay all right. Uh what kinds of insects are that you know about that fly around and sting? 888: Fly? Oh wasps. Interviewer: Okay what else? 888: Bee. Interviewer: Okay uh on wasp um Okay if you saw just one you'd say there's a 888: Wasp. Interviewer: Okay and if you saw two you'd say look there are two? 888: Wasps. Interviewer: Okay okay okay I got bees and what else? 888: Bees {NS} red bees Interviewer: {NW} 888: {X} Interviewer: What are red bees? 888: Red bees? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: They some of the bees that like come from Africa that you know you get bit by them some of them you know well if you get bit by a lot of them some people die from them. Interviewer: #1 Really # 888: #2 Some people don't. # Interviewer: #1 # 888: #2 # They's called red bees. Interviewer: Okay. 888: #1 We had one # Interviewer: #2 What else? # 888: not too long ago we had some up here. Not too far from San Antonio but they killed this lady. It was in the news I don't couple couple months ago. Interviewer: Mm-hmm? 888: {X} I don't know why they attacked her but they say you know they all attacked her. Interviewer: {NS} I wouldn't want to aggravate them. 888: {X} Yeah they dangerous. Interviewer: Okay what other kinds of insects are there? 888: Other insects that bites? Interviewer: Yeah. That sting. 888: Oh sting? Well they got big Tarantulas. {D: and flies} #1 And # Interviewer: #2 Tell me # tell me about a tarantula. What- what is a tarantula like? 888: Um {NS} When I was down at my grandmother's house where we had you know taran- you know all in the house sometimes. They would you know fly around I don't know why they how they had wings but they was tarantulas because you know they was spiders but they had wings. Interviewer: {NW} 888: And they would {X} on you and bite you. Make you sting a little bit. Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} Back to the tarantulas 888: Oh well uh you know they would bite and you know they sting a little bit Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Put a little {D: eye color stuff} like that on it Interviewer: Yeah. 888: That's about all I know. Interviewer: Okay what do you call a kind of wasp that builds nests out of mud or dirt? 888: Uh I forgot what you call it. I guess a {D: mug}. Interviewer: A what? 888: {D: A mug} wasp. Dirt wasp whatever. Interviewer: Okay okay What do you call uh the kind of insects that like if you walk through the grass without any shoes on these little things get and burrow down in your skin and it makes it itch real bad? You can't really see the insect it's too little. 888: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 But # little tiny- sometimes it's a little red spot. It looks just like a mosquito bite. 888: Looks like a little mosquito bite? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} What do you call um the insects that some are green and some are brown and they hop along the grass in summertime? 888: Grass hoppers. Interviewer: Okay. Ever heard anybody call them hoppergrass? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um. What do you call a little bitty tiny fish that you might use for bait on a? 888: Minnows. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If you haven't cleaned up a room in a good while sometimes you get these things up in the 888: #1 Cobwebs. # Interviewer: #2 corners? # Okay. What if it's outside? What would you call it? 888: Cobwebs. Interviewer: Okay okay um. Let's see. If you're pulling up a tree stump you have to dig around and cut all the? 888: Roots. Interviewer: Okay have you ever heard of any kind of roots that are used for like medicine? 888: Uh mint. Interviewer: Okay. What-how-what do they use that for? 888: They use mint for when you get a you know like you down with a little bad cold you can take that and put it inside of a pot. And you cook it boil it and you drink the some kind of mint juice off of it. That's what our mother used to give us. Interviewer: Oh. 888: That's all the roots I know of. Interviewer: That sounds good. 888: It is. {NW} It helps your cold. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 If you down # low down and sick. If you ever get sick just use that and Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: you know it'll help you a lot. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh okay um what do you call the kind of tree that you tap for syrup? 888: That you tap for syrup? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} what all kinds of trees are there around here? 888: Maple trees uh lane trees lime trees #1 peach trees # Interviewer: #2 What what was that last one? # 888: Lime trees. Interviewer: What is that? 888: It's a tree that grow limes. on it. So like {X} Eastside You don't see too many of them um but my sister she cut them down because they was blocking her window. She had a lime tree. She got a grapefruit tree too but she ain't cut the grape she cut you know a little bit you know but not all the grapefruit tree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: #1 Lime # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 888: trees you know just Interviewer: #1 {X} # 888: #2 grow limes like real sour limes. # Interviewer: Okay okay what else is there? 888: Um They got like I was saying they have grapefruit trees that you know grow grapefruits on Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 888: #2 them. # They got maple trees. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Where you get maple syrup and stuff like that. Interviewer: What else? 888: And they got green trees. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 888: #2 And they got # that's all the trees I can think of Interviewer: Um what do you call that kind of tree that um it has leaves that look like a cotton wood look like cotton wood leaves. And the bark on it kind of looks like cotton would too because it's kind of gray and white and scaley. It's always peeling off you know and it's got these little balls that hang on it They're about that big and they're they're green right now but in the fall they'll be brown and then they drop off you know. 888: They green? Interviewer: Yeah they're green now but they're also a little bit smaller. But in the fall they'll be about this big and they're brown. Have you ever heard it called a button ball tree or a plain tree or a sycamore or a button wood tree? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Um. What kind of tree did George Washington cut down? 888: Cherry tree. Interviewer: Okay um. There's a bush that grows along down here about grows along the roads and around by fences and the leaves turn bright red real early in the fall and has clusters of kind of reddish brown berries that are shaped like this. And people used to pick the berries and and make tea out of them. Or some times they use them for tanning hides. You know what kinda some In the east this kind of bush is poisonous but here it's not. You know anything like that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard anything like that called uh sumac or sumac or sumac or sumac? {C: pronunciation} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um what kind of bushes are there that make your skin break out if you brush up against them? 888: Poison ivy. Interviewer: Okay um what are some berries that you might buy if you go to the store to buy some berries? 888: Some berries? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Strawberries. Interviewer: Mm-hmm what else? 888: Apple berries. Interviewer: Okay what else? 888: Um. That's all the berries I buy. Interviewer: Uh you know what black berries look like? 888: Oh yeah. Interviewer: Yeah well okay there's some that look like blackberries only they're smaller. And they're red usually. 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What do you call those? Some of them are bred some of them are black actually. But they look like black berries. They're small and they're real sour. But they're good. 888: Plum berries? Interviewer: Uh no it's a different kind. You can buy them frozen or sometimes they grow out here but I you know I don't think I've ever seen any growing but 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um. You might say to somebody be careful about eating those berries they might be? 888: Green? Interviewer: Okay or worse than that they might be 888: Sour. Interviewer: Okay or bad for you they might make you sick 888: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 they might be # 888: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # P- 888: Poison Interviewer: What? 888: Poison. Interviewer: Okay okay um what do you call a tall flowering bush that has clusters of beautiful pink and white flowers that bloom in late spring? 888: Roses? Interviewer: Okay. Uh do you know of any names for any bigger ones that have like longer segments of stem. They grow further up in the mountains. 888: Um Interviewer: Anything like? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay what um there's a kind of tree that um that grows a lot down here. I've seen a lot of them. They have leaves that are about about like that sometimes bigger and they're kind of a yellow-y green well compared to other trees I guess and they're sort of brown on the underside. And they're real shiny waxy looking leaves and you know they're pretty big and they the tree flowers and has big white flowers about this big. 888: No. Interviewer: Have you heard it called a cucumber tree or a magnolia or a laurel tree or a cowcumber tree? {NS} Okay um If a married woman doesn't want to make up her own mind she might say well I better ask who? 888: Her mother. Interviewer: She's married. 888: Oh she's married she better ask her husband. Interviewer: Okay. What else might she call him? 888: Fiancée. Interviewer: Mm she's married to him already. I mean would she have any joking names you know like she might say I better ask my what? {NS} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay okay um a married man. What would he say about her I better ask my? 888: Wife? Interviewer: Okay and um a woman who's lost her husband is called a 888: #1 Widow. What? Widow. # Interviewer: #2 I mean her husband-I'm sorry # 888: #1 A widow. # Interviewer: #2 I'm sorry. # {NW} 888: {NW} Interviewer: Say it again. 888: A widow. Interviewer: Thank you. 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # I managed to say something at exactly the same time 888: #1 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #2 every time. # Um okay what if her husband just ran off and left her? Then she'd be a what? 888: She'd be a just a widow. Interviewer: Okay um when you were little who was the one that took care of you the most? 888: My mother. Interviewer: Okay and her husband would be called your? 888: Her husband? My daddy. Interviewer: Okay or uh another word for daddy would be your? 888: Father. Interviewer: Okay. And what did you call-what did you call your father? Did you call him daddy? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay what else did you-what else did you call him? 888: Just daddy. Interviewer: Okay okay what did you call your mother? 888: Mama. Interviewer: Okay. Call her anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: You know of anything else that like old people call their parents? 888: Uh. I call her my old lady sometimes. Interviewer: Oh #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 Old man. # Interviewer: Okay okay um Would that be young people who said that or old people? {NS} 888: Young people. Interviewer: Okay um so your mother and your father together would be called your? 888: Old man and old lady? Interviewer: Okay but one word for the 888: Oh one word? My parents. Interviewer: Okay and uh your mother's mother would be your? 888: Mother. Interviewer: Your mother's mother would be your 888: Grandmother. Interviewer: Okay and your mother's father would be your 888: My mother's father would be her Interviewer: Your 888: grandfather. Interviewer: Okay uh okay what did you what do you call your yeah what did you used to call your grandmother? 888: Grandmother. Interviewer: Okay did you ever know your grandfather? 888: No. Interviewer: Um. Do you know do you know people your age who do know they're grandfather? 888: Yes. Interviewer: What do they call them usually? 888: Just grandfather. I don't know. Interviewer: Okay they don't have any affectionate names other than just grandfather? 888: Just grandfather. Interviewer: Okay uh okay you might say I was the youngest of five what? 888: Children. Interviewer: Okay. Are there any names that people use instead of children? 888: Child. Interviewer: I mean I mean for children. What would you say other than children? 888: {NS} Other than children? {X} Interviewer: I was the youngest of five children or five 888: Sisters or brothers. Interviewer: Okay uh A name that a child is known by just in the family you know nobody calls you that but just in the family you would be what? Your what name? 888: {X} Interviewer: Mm no. Nobody calls you that except just in your family. I mean like it's nobody knows it you know? 888: Oh. Interviewer: But there's a certain kind of name. 888: Nick name or something. Interviewer: Okay okay uh let's see. What do you call a thing that you can put a baby in and the baby lies down and you can push it along you know and it's got a little cowl thing that comes up over it 888: Cradle. Interviewer: Okay but this is something on wheels that you can push. 888: A buggy. Interviewer: Okay and if you're going to take the baby out in the buggy you might say you're going to what the baby? 888: Push him. Interviewer: Okay um Let's see. Um. {NS} Okay if you had children you'd say your children are your sons and your {NS} 888: If I had children it would be my sons and my wife. Interviewer: Your sons 888: And his wife? Interviewer: No okay you have children? All right. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Okay the boys would be your sons. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: And then there'd be some more probably and they'd be 888: My daughters. Interviewer: Okay and daughters are always not boys but 888: Girls. Interviewer: Okay yeah. {NS} Okay if um if a woman is going to have a baby you'd say she's what? 888: She's expecting. Interviewer: Okay. Any other words you might use? 888: Um no. Interviewer: Okay are there any joking ways of talking about it? 888: Saying she just big. Interviewer: Okay okay um if you don't have a doctor to deliver the baby the woman you might send for would be called a 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um. If a boy has the same color hair the same eyes as his father and same shaped nose you know and same shaped ears and that kind of thing you'd say he what? 888: Spitting image of his daddy. Interviewer: Okay and suppose he acquires the same mannerisms as the behavior of his father you'd say what? 888: Takes after him. Interviewer: Okay what if he starts picking up his father's bad habits would you use any other word? 888: Back ground {X} Footsteps Interviewer: What what about foot steps? 888: He followed his foot steps. Interviewer: Okay okay um you might say so and so had a hard life. Her husband died and she what six children all by herself? 888: Took care of six children by herself. Interviewer: Okay is there any other word you might use instead of took care? Took care? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um to a small child who's misbehaved you might say if you do that again I'm going to give you a good 888: Whooping. Interviewer: Okay or what? 888: Sla- slap. Slap. Interviewer: Okay what's the difference between a whooping and a slap? 888: Whooping you get hit everywhere. A slap you just get hit in the face. Interviewer: Okay okay uh Let's see oh okay. Say that a little boy small boy says that to another boy he what {X} going to be a fight. You know they're going to fight. One little kid says to the other little kid if you do that again I'm going to give you a good what? 888: Repeat it again? I didn't hear you. Interviewer: Same thing as the as you said before but this is one little boy says to another little boy if you do that again I'm going to give you a good 888: Hit? Interviewer: Okay anything else? There's going to be a real fight. 888: Fist. {NS} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Okay uh what if it was two older boys like two guys your age you know one of them might say to the other one you do that again I'm going to give you a good what? 888: Kicking. Interviewer: Okay anything else? Would you ever say whooping or anything like that? 888: No. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 Just. # Interviewer: #1 # 888: #2 # Interviewer: Just what? 888: Get good fight just fight. Interviewer: Okay um If a boy named Bob is five inches taller this year you'd say Bob what a lot? 888: Growed a lot. Interviewer: Okay and you might say to him you certainly have what big? 888: Grown big. Interviewer: Okay and you might say that Bob came up so fast you could almost see him 888: Grow. Interviewer: Okay um a child who's born to an unmarried woman you'd call a what? 888: Adopted. Interviewer: Okay. Or but uh but if she had him you know uh and didn't have to go like to an adoption agency that she had the child herself but just didn't have a husband. 888: #1 Oh she had the child? # Interviewer: #2 What would you call- # Mm-hmm 888: What do I call that? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I mean you just say like he just the husband ran off and left her and the child Interviewer: Never had a husband. 888: Oh. Never had a husband? Interviewer: Uh-huh. But she got pregnant and then she had this kid. What would you call this kid? 888: An orphan I guess. Interviewer: Okay but she's going to keep the child. 888: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 888: She's going to keep the child. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 888: I'd just say uh pregnant uh just got pregnant and had a child. Interviewer: Okay okay uh you might say um Jane is a loving child but Peggy is even 888: Lovelier. Interviewer: Okay um okay say you had a brother who had a son. Okay so your brother's son would be your? 888: {X} My brother's son would be my uh I guess niece nephew. Interviewer: Okay um okay a child who's lost both parents is 888: Child who lost both parents? Interviewer: Mm. 888: Is an orphan. Interviewer: Okay uh if it had been put in an institution would you call it anything else? 888: {NS} Just an orphan. Interviewer: Okay um the person appointed to look after an orphan is it's legal 888: Guardian. Interviewer: Okay and um if you have a lot of cousins and nephews and nieces around you might say this whole town is just full of my 888: Kin. Interviewer: Okay would you use that word to include uh like your parents and your grandparents? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay what about your brothers and sisters and people who live in the house with you? Would you use it-would you include them in that word? 888: Oh on the word kin? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Yes I would use all of them. Parents and grandmother and all them. Interviewer: Okay but when you said this town's full's full of my kin would you mean your parents particularly or 888: #1 Kinfolks # Interviewer: #2 would you speak # Would you speak of them specifically if you meant 888: Um yes. Particularly about all of them. Interviewer: You're speaking about all of them okay. Um. Okay you might say um about somebody you might say yeah he has the same family name and he looks a little bit like me but we're actually no 888: Kin. Interviewer: Okay um Somebody comes into town and nobody had ever seen him before you'd say he's a 888: Stranger. Interviewer: Okay and if he came from out of state what would you call him? 888: {X} Interviewer: A what? 888: If he come from out of state? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: A foreign dude. Foreign person Interviewer: Okay okay what if he come from he came from um another country what would you call him? 888: Um A visitor I guess. Interviewer: Okay okay how far would he have to come {X} in order for you to call him a foreigner? 888: Mm how far would he have to come? Interviewer: Yeah 888: From different places that talk different {X} Interviewer: Like what I'm sorry can you say it a little louder? 888: Place like you know that comes from a foreign place like Massachusetts or a different continent that's different from this place Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Did you say that talk different? Is that what you? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um. Okay uh what was the name of the mother of Jesus? 888: Christ? Interviewer: Uh his mother. 888: Jane. Interviewer: Uh okay uh let's see his father was Joseph and his mother was M- 888: Jacob. Interviewer: Uh 888: I mean his mother was uh Interviewer: Ma- It's a it's a pretty common name for a girl. It starts with an M. 888: Mary. Interviewer: Okay um George Washington's wife's name was 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay it starts with an m too. Ma- um 888: Martha. Interviewer: Okay um There's a song that goes wait 'til the sun shines {NS} 888: Wait 'til the sun shines? Interviewer: Know that name? 888: #1 No I sure don't. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Um Let's see. There's a it's a nick name for Helen and it for Helen. The name Helen. and it starts with an N. 888: {NS} Starts with a N? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Nina? Nina? Interviewer: #1 Uh # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What? 888: {D: Nelen?} Interviewer: That's close. It ends with y. 888: {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Used to be I think they used to name mules or horses that. {X} Giddy-up n- 888: {D: Nilan?} Interviewer: Mm {NW} 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Okay um. The name Will is a nickname for what longer name? 888: Nickname for Will? Interviewer: Will is the nickname for what? 888: Hill? Interviewer: No it's a just a longer name. 888: Willard. Interviewer: Okay it's like Willard but it's not it's not Willard it's sort of like that though. Willi- 888: Nick name? Interviewer: #1 Okay Will # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What? 888: You? Interviewer: Will is the nick name and then the other one is longer and 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um oh let's see um There was an outlaw named mm the kid 888: Billy the kid. Interviewer: Okay um let's see What's Billy a nick name for? 888: What's Billy's nick- Interviewer: A nick name for? 888: I guess the kid. Interviewer: I mean Billy's real name was probably 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay uh okay in the bible um the first of the four gospels there's mm Mark Luke and John? What's the fist one? It starts with an M. Ma- Mm Mark Luke and John 888: Mark Luke and John? Interviewer: Yeah. Matt is a nick name for that. 888: Mack. Interviewer: Matt. 888: Lucas.e James. I don't know. Interviewer: #1 Okay. Okay. # 888: #2 I don't know. # Interviewer: A woman who conducts school you'd call a 888: Teacher. Interviewer: Okay. Do you know any old fashioned names for that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um. There's a guy who wrote sometime ago who wrote things like well he wrote a series of books called The Leatherstocking Tales and there's The Deerslayer and um The Last of the Mohicans and his name was James Fenimore Co- 888: Cook? Interviewer: Not Cook but Okay let's try another thing. You keep chickens in a chicken what? 888: Coop? Coop? Coop? Interviewer: Okay now add e r to the end of that and that's the guy's name. 888: Cooker. Interviewer: No. 888: Cooked? Interviewer: A chicken what? 888: Cooker? {D:Corker?} Cooker? Interviewer: #1 {X} # 888: #2 {NW} Okay # Interviewer: we got a problem here um okay let's see. The baseball hall of fame. Do you know where that is? 888: {NW} Interviewer: Baseball Hall of Fame? 888: Baseball Hall of Fame? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: California I believe. Interviewer: Okay um would you ever okay would you ever say um about somebody's name cooper or cooper? {C: pronunciation} 888: Repeat that please. Interviewer: Would you ever say cooper or cooper? 888: Cooper. I would say Cooper. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um okay now if there was a lady by this name. She was married. You'd call her 888: Miss Cooper. Interviewer: Okay um a preacher who's not really trained and who doesn't have a regular pulpit you know and he he preaches on Sunday here and there and he makes his living doing something else. So he's probably really not really good at preaching. Would you have a name from somebody like that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh okay what relation would my mother's sister be to me? 888: Your mother's sister to her? Interviewer: To me. 888: Aunt. Interviewer: What? You- Say the whole- can you say the whole thing? She'd be #1 I'd say # 888: #2 she'd be your # your aunt. Interviewer: Great okay um okay more names {NW} uh okay. Um. There's a girl's name that begins with S and Sally is a nick name for it. S and R 888: #1 Susan? # Interviewer: #2 r and # And then there's an R in the middle. Um in the bible she was the wife of Abraham. Um. There-you can buy little cakes and stuff like that have this gal's name on it. {D: It's got the name and then s-nn-lee.} 888: {D: Su Lee?} Interviewer: {D: No it's not Su or Susan. It's not that. Uh.} {NS} There's a there's a judge in this part of the country a woman and she when when Kennedy was assassinated she swore Johnson in you know on the airplane. And her name is s mm T. Hughes 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um let's see okay Kennedy's first name was? 888: Kennedy? John F Kennedy. Interviewer: Okay and okay if you had an uncle by that by the name of John you'd call him? 888: Uncle John. Interviewer: Okay okay um did we ever decide what Bill was a nickname for? I can't remember. 888: Billy the kid? Interviewer: Yeah is Billy a nick name for a longer name? 888: Billy? Interviewer: Okay okay um let's see if you had known say somebody like George Patton. You know who he was? 888: What was the name? Interviewer: George Patton. You know who he was? 888: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 They made a movie # Okay well how about Robert E. Lee? Do you know who he was? 888: I heard of him but I don't know who he was. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 Robert E. Lee? # Interviewer: Yeah. 888: He was a fighter I believe. Interviewer: Yeah okay and he was a he was a had a high rank in the civil war. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay and uh do you know what his rank was I mean if you were just going to guess you'd say he's probably a four star? 888: {D: I'd say about} two star general. Interviewer: Okay okay and so if you were to address him you wouldn't call him Mister Lee you'd say? 888: General Lee. Interviewer: Okay um the old gentleman who introduced Kentucky Fried Chicken is 888: Colonel Sanders. Interviewer: Okay and um what do we call the man in charge of a ship? 888: Captain Interviewer: Okay. And what other situations do you use that word in? 888: What other situations? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Where-what else would you use that word? 888: Skipper. Interviewer: I mean no not not different words but the word captain. Where else have you heard that word? 888: On the ships uh boats Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 Trains. # Interviewer: what about children? 888: Oh yeah I heard it around children. Interviewer: Okay what-what do children use it for? 888: What do they use it for? Interviewer: Mm-hmm the word captain. 888: I guess to play with. Interviewer: #1 Uh # 888: #2 Someone will play the captain I guess. # Interviewer: Uh oh okay I see what you mean um You mentioned rail roads? What does a rail road captain do? 888: Looks out he knows He takes over if anything goes wrong looks sees everything okay. Interviewer: Okay okay um the man who presides over the county court is a what? 888: Judge. Interviewer: Okay. And if there was a guy named Marshall who was happened to be a judge you'd you wouldn't say Mister Marshall you'd say- you'd call him? 888: Judge Marshall. Interviewer: Okay um. A boy or girl in school is a? 888: Student. Interviewer: Okay And if they're going to college would you-what would you call them? Same thing? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay what if they're in high school? 888: Student. Interviewer: Okay. Grade school? 888: Student. Interviewer: Okay um a person in an office who handles the boss's mail and schedules the boss's appointments and answers the telephone would be called the? 888: Secretary. Interviewer: Okay um a man who appears on the stage would be an actor but a women would be a 888: Actress. Interviewer: Okay and anybody born in the United States is called an 888: Citizen. Interviewer: Okay a what citizen? 888: Citizen of the United States. Interviewer: Okay um. Okay if uh let's see. You're not a Canadian you're an a- what? 888: Cana- I mean. Repeat that again? Interviewer: Okay. {NS} you wouldn't say you're Canadian you would say you're an a- 888: Native. Interviewer: A-an amer- am- 888: Amer- oh an American. Interviewer: Okay okay okay now uh tell me uh what what what is the name of your race? 888: Black. Interviewer: Okay what are some other terms that you might see on a a form that you were going to fill out? 888: Negro colored. Interviewer: Okay okay now uh of those which one do you like the best? 888: Black. Interviewer: Okay why? What's wrong with the others? 888: Well well if I'd pick two of them I'd have black and negro. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay. 888: And colored I don't dig because anybody can be colored. Interviewer: Oh like browns too huh? 888: Yeah so I go by the name of black because well black and negroes is you know expressing what you are too but not colored. Interviewer: Okay okay um. {NS} Okay okay uh {NS} but those three would all be fairly neutral kinds of terms. 888: #1 Right. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Now do you know some derogatory terms that people like that whites or that um Latin Americans might use about blacks? 888: Nigger. And they say nigger or black boy but you know that's what you know I like to be called black but not you know nigger or nothing like that because I don't think nobody was a nigger unless they was named that. and which we'll name negroes not nigger. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay okay uh okay what is the name of my race? 888: White. Interviewer: Okay do you know any other words that are just neutral sort of? 888: {NW} I don't want to say them right now. I don't want to say that. Interviewer: {NW} No neutral I mean 888: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 they're just # 888: #1 Just white. Just white you know. # Interviewer: #2 not like- like would be on a form. # 888: #1 Uh # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 888: {NS} I just call I just say white. That's all. Interviewer: Okay now do you know some uncomplimentary names? You can tell me. That's alright. I've probably heard most of them anyway. {NW} 888: I mean you know I never call nobody out of their race or nothing. But you know I hear these terms. Peckerwood stuff like that. Interviewer: #1 Yeah yeah # 888: #2 And # Interviewer: um peckerwood. Does that refer to any kind of whites or is that just like poor whites or is it uh 888: It's more it's poor whites. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: Peckerwood is. And Interviewer: Okay what about some others? 888: Redneck. Some like that. Redneck. Interviewer: What kind of person is a redneck? 888: Person that's real red you know. But you know that's what most people call them. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Call white people. Interviewer: Um let's see. Do you have a name for a child that's born of a racially mixed marriage like one parent's black one parent's white? 888: Yes. Interviewer: What's-what do you call him? 888: Half and half. My uncle he's married to a Spanish girl right now and he got I think three children right now. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh. Would you call them half and half? 888: Half and half. Mixed race but Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 there's nothing # to it. Interviewer: Uh-huh #1 what if- # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: go ahead. 888: Because people get married you know they don't have to be the same race or the same you know kind of people long as they love each other and want to go each other way. Interviewer: Yeah. Do you think your mother would be upset if you wanted to marry a a white girl or a brown 888: #1 No I don't # Interviewer: #2 girl? # 888: think so whatever you know whatever pleases me probably would please her. Interviewer: Uh-huh that's good. That's good that she'd be that way. Um let's see. Okay do you have a name for some- somebody that might have like a one white grandparent? 888: One white grandparent? Interviewer: Mm-hmm do you have a name for somebody like that? 888: Um. Interviewer: Instead of one parent you know a grandparent that's white? 888: I just say uh mixed blood. Interviewer: Okay okay um okay what would you call the man that you work for? I mean just how would you address him when you're talking to him? 888: Sir. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Or usually sir boss you know. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {X} Interviewer: Um. Okay what do you call white people who who aren't very well off {X} a chance at education and they're sort of good for nothing and too lazy to work and all that kind of stuff? 888: You're asking me what do I call them? Interviewer: #1 Yeah yeah # 888: #2 What what I # call them? Interviewer: Uh-huh needs to be white people who are like that. 888: I wouldn't call them I'd just say non-educated because black people they don't have they might not have all their ca- I mean education like white people have. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I would just call them non-educational. Interviewer: Okay okay um what would you call a guy who either black or white who lives out in the country and he doesn't know anything about town ways and he's kind of conspicuous you know when he comes to town. And uh he uh himself he might say oh I don't know anything about city ways I'm just an old what? 888: Bum. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 Or # city ways? Interviewer: Yeah he he's from the country. 888: Oh he's from the country. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And you asking me and he don't know what's going on today Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Well I would say he's-he's well he's been you know he's been far out you know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Because he don't know what's going on in today's life. Interviewer: Okay. 888: In this part of the world. Interviewer: Would little kids that are like being ugly might have some name they might call him? 888: Being ugly? Interviewer: Uh-huh being mean to him. 888: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 Making fun of him. # 888: No no I just say uh uh reformed I guess. {NW} Interviewer: He what? 888: reformed I guess. Interviewer: O-okay okay. Uh what do you mean by that? Tell me. Explain. If he's 888: {D: uh reformed} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Well I would say if a person you know is being called ugly it's because the way he looked and not the way they was you know the way they was born and maybe some parent may may had something wrong with them or been taking drugs or something like that to make the child reformed which somebody would call ugly. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 They would just # call them ugly right off the hand they just you know one house some would say. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay I get it. Um okay say you were at a party and you look at your watch and it's about oh it's after eleven thirty and you say well we better be getting on home it's mm midnight. 888: Past midnight. Interviewer: Uh it's not quite midnight yet so you might say it's okay say it's eleven forty-five. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: So you'd say it's mm midnight. 888: It's almost midnight. Interviewer: Okay um you might say this ice is hard to walk on. I managed to keep my balance but I mm fell three or four times. 888: Managed to keep my balance but I fell. Interviewer: But I 888: #1 I mean I fell # Interviewer: #2 Something something fell # I blank fell. 888: My legs fell? Interviewer: Um you didn't quite fall but you mm fell. 888: Oh. I didn't quite fell but I almost fell. Interviewer: Okay okay um if somebody's waiting for you to get ready so you can go with them and he calls to you hey will you be ready soon? You might answer I'll be with you in 888: Just a minute. Interviewer: Okay um say you know you're on the right road. You're going somewhere and you know you're on the right road but you aren't sure the distance and so you stop somebody and ask them how what to Oklahoma City? 888: Which direction is Oklahoma City? Interviewer: Now no you know you're on the right direction. But but you want to know the distance. 888: Oh. Interviewer: So you'd say how 888: How many distance to Oklahoma? Interviewer: What I'm sorry? 888: How many distance to Oklahoma? Interviewer: Okay um if you want to know how regularly somebody goes to town uh you might say how mm do you go to town? 888: How regularly do you go to town? Interviewer: Okay but don't use regular use 888: #1 How often # Interviewer: #2 how. # 888: do you go to town? Interviewer: Okay um. If you agree with your a friend of yours he says I'm not going to vote for that guy. You might say what? 888: I am not voting for that guy. Interviewer: Okay but he's he's already said that and you you agree with him real strongly and you probably wouldn't just repeat 888: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 what he'd said you'd # say 888: I'm not gonna vote for him. Interviewer: Okay. Would you add any other word? 888: I'm not gonna vote for him. Interviewer: Okay uh let's see. Would you say? {NS} Uh {NS} Something am I. He says I'm not going to vote for him you go mm am I. Okay you might say neither am I or me either. Which of those seems most natural? Which would you probably say? 888: Neither am I. Interviewer: Okay uh okay this part of your head right here is your 888: Forehead. Interviewer: Okay and um if you go to the barber he'll probably cut your? 888: Hair. Interviewer: Okay and if you if you don't shave for three or four weeks you're probably growing a 888: Beard. Interviewer: Okay uh where would an old-timey store keeper keep his pencil when he wasn't using it? So it'd be handy. 888: An inkwell. Interviewer: No he'd keep it be- 888: Oh on the back of his ear. Interviewer: Okay okay which ear? 888: Which ear? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I guess his right ear. Interviewer: Okay but if he was left handed he'd probably keep it behind his 888: Right ear. #1 Left ear. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # I'm sorry. 888: Left ear. Interviewer: Say it one more time. 888: Left ear. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} If somebody's mumbling you might say take that chewing gum out of your 888: Mouth. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say he got a chicken bone stuck in his 888: Throat. Interviewer: And you wear a tie around your 888: Neck. Interviewer: And what do you call this part of your neck right here? 888: Adam's apple Interviewer: Okay have you ever heard the word goozle? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Um you have the dentist look at your 888: Teeth. Interviewer: Okay and you might say you need to have that 888: Pulled out. Interviewer: Okay a what pulled out? 888: Teeth. Interviewer: Uh just one. 888: He might had what pulled out? Interviewer: We might have to pull that 888: Teeth. Interviewer: Just one of them though. 888: Teeth. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Tooth. Interviewer: Oh okay okay there we go. Uh this is well you're taking pretty good care of your teeth but you better pay more attention to your 888: Gums. Interviewer: Okay okay Um you might say you can hold that baby bird in the what? 888: {NW} Palm of your hand. Interviewer: Okay. And he got mad and doubled up both 888: Fists. Interviewer: Okay and one man shook his at another? 888: Fist. Interviewer: Okay um. When people get real old they complain they're getting stiff in their 888: Shoulder. Interviewer: Mm. 888: Arm. Interviewer: Yeah and knees and what would you call all those there? 888: Arthritis. Interviewer: Okay arthritis in their 888: Shoulder? Interviewer: No it's all of 888: #1 these things that bend. # Interviewer: #2 Chest? # 888: Oh um Elbow? Interviewer: Yeah that too but the knee and those are all j- um 888: Oh you want one thing. Interviewer: {X} {NS} 888: In their muscles. Interviewer: Uh no no their their places in the where the bone comes together. Where the bone 888: #1 Joints. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # A what? 888: In their joints. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Okay uh. The upper part of a man's body is his? Think you just said it. 888: Shoulders. Interviewer: Okay um okay they measure the height of a horse. Wait here let's do this you have a left and a right? 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What is that? 888: Palm. Interviewer: Uh whole thing. 888: Hand. Interviewer: Okay and they measure the height of a horse in 888: Feet. Interviewer: Mm. 888: Foot. Interviewer: Not feet but 888: Hand. I mean Interviewer: Yeah. 888: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # And okay so you can have one hand or two 888: Palms. Interviewer: Okay but just say the plural of hand. 888: Hands. Interviewer: Okay um okay you might say that the pain ran from his heel all the way up his whole 888: Leg. Interviewer: Okay uh. You might say I stumbled over a box in the dark and bruised my 888: Leg. Interviewer: Okay but you-do you have a name for the part of your leg right here? 888: The front bone I guess. Interviewer: Okay um okay when your a little kid and-and you used play marbles sometimes little kids sit like this when they're playing marbles you know shoot. How-what would you say that you had to do to get in this position? 888: Squat. Interviewer: Okay um would you ever say hunker down? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um somebody's been sick quite a while but he's up and around now but he's still looks just a little bit what? 888: Pink. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh okay a man is not weak but usually he's if he's not weak then he's? 888: If he's not weak strong. Interviewer: Okay um some person who always has a smile on his face and never loses his temper you might say he's awfully? What? 888: Happy. Interviewer: Okay um okay say a boy is in his early teens and he's and he's just all arms and legs and he can hardly walk through the house without breaking something and you know you say oh he's at that what stage? 888: Good stage? Interviewer: Um referring to this condition about how he knocks things over you don't ne- 888: Oh. Nervous stage. Interviewer: Um it's really not so much if he's nervous or not it's 888: Repeat that over please. Interviewer: Okay he walks through the house and he's just you know he stumbles over things and he bumps into things and he he hits things with his arms and his legs and 888: Clumsy stage. Interviewer: Okay um A person who just keeps on doing things that don't make any sense you might say he's just a plain what? 888: Dummy. Interviewer: Okay um a person who has plenty of money and hangs on to it would be a? 888: Hangs on to it? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Tight. Interviewer: Okay uh Would you say that man is a tight or that man is tight? 888: He's tight. Interviewer: Okay okay and somebody who's tight you might say he's a what? 888: Might say he's greedy. Interviewer: Okay okay um. If you said that girl is very common. What would you mean? First of all would you ever say that? 888: That girl is ve-very common? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: No I wouldn't say that. I'd say I would say that she is co-I would say you know {D: don't have a face face like} she's pretty common. Interviewer: What would you mean by that? 888: Well she's pretty straight. She go by the all the rules. Interviewer: She what? 888: She goes by all the rules. Interviewer: Oh okay I see okay. Would you mean that to be a compliment or not? 888: We- well you can mean it as a compliment that you know if a girl wants to go by the rules you know str- play things straight on through Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 888: #2 which some # person might do wrong. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay um okay if an old man is still real strong and active and he doesn't say his show his age you might say you know he's really still quite what? 888: A kid. Interviewer: Okay or would you ever say anything like {D: spry or peppy or brash or trappy or lively or anything like that? Chipper?} 888: Lively. Interviewer: Okay um okay say um say you had kids and you had a teenage daughter and she had been dating and she was out later than usual. And you might say well I don't suppose there's anything wrong but I still can't help feeling a little? 888: Curious? Interviewer: Okay um. You don't feel easy about it but you probably feel? 888: Unhappy. Interviewer: Okay or opposite of easy would be 'un-? 888: Opposite of easy? Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you don't feel easy about it. You feel 888: Sad. Interviewer: Okay okay uh. Let's see. You might say I don't want to go upstairs in the dark. I'm what? 888: Scared. Interviewer: Okay um any other word you might use? 888: Afraid. Interviewer: Okay. Is there a difference between scared and afraid? 888: Yeah no it it is not when you're afraid you're scared Interviewer: Uh-huh okay uh Does one mean sort of a temporary condition and the other one means something that happens over and over? Or are they- are they just the same just exactly the same? 888: Not really. I mean scared is something that you're scared of and you can't face it and afraid is something that you are afraid of something. You know something that you're afraid of at home. Something you see. It frightens you. Interviewer: Okay uh a place like a dark road alongside a graveyard is a what kind of place? 888: No an alley? Interviewer: Oh okay but this is beside a graveyard. 888: Beside a graveyard. Interviewer: This is a place where you might get scared. So you'd say that's a what kind of place? 888: Creepy place. Creepy road. Interviewer: Okay. {X} Interviewer: Okay uh you might say of somebody she isn't afraid now but she 888: Be af- be afraid later. Interviewer: Uh before. 888: She not afraid not but she be afraid Interviewer: #1 Last # 888: #2 before. # Interviewer: Last year- let's say last year she was afraid but now she's not afraid. So how would you tell me that? 888: She was afraid before but now she's not afraid now. Interviewer: Okay um about the D: old gray mare you'd say she ain't what she? 888: Used to be. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} What would be the opposite of used to be? Like you might use it in a sentence. I don't understand why she's afraid she Now she's afraid but 888: Sh- she didn't she used to not. Interviewer: Okay okay um You might say I-I wouldn't say these kids around here are reckless drivers but some of them are just kind of 888: Dangerous. Interviewer: Okay or you might say your son made too many mistakes. Say say you had a son and he made too many mistakes on an arithmetic test you'd say you shouldn't be so what with your figures? 888: #1 Clumsy. # Interviewer: #2 On a test? # What? 888: Clumsy. Interviewer: Okay um If you're if you're a driver and just sort of forget to signal and you forget to do some kind of things you might say you're a what kind of driver? 888: I forget some of the things to do? Interviewer: Yeah that you're supposed to do. That make it safe yeah. 888: Um. I would say nervous type of driver. Interviewer: Okay um Okay you might say there's really nothing wrong with aunt Lizzy but sometimes she just acts kind of? 888: Funny. Interviewer: Okay what's another word for funny? 888: Uh another word for funny could be a little off. Interviewer: Okay another word? Any other words for funny or off? 888: Not together. Interviewer: Okay okay what um 888: You want another word for funny. Interviewer: Yeah {NW} Okay would you use the word queer in that sentence? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay how would you use the word queer? 888: I would use the word queer as like some you know some like some fag dresses up like some girl. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: #1 And # Interviewer: #2 Okay # 888: That's what I would call him. Interviewer: Okay okay what's a fag? Is that a male homosexual? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay okay uh let's see okay somebody who who makes up his mind and nothing can make him change it you might say he's really 888: He's really uh {X} He's really made up his mind. Interviewer: Okay yeah but what would be one word to describe somebody's like that. You can't change his mind. Nothing you do can make him change his mind. 888: What would I say? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: {X} He really got his mind on it. Interviewer: Okay okay um if something happened to embarrass somebody or to make them mad uh you might say to somebody else now don't mention it he's still a little something on that subject. 888: Something bad happened? Interviewer: Yeah something embarrassing happened. 888: Oh. Interviewer: Now don't mention it to him he's still a little something on that subject. 888: He's a little shook up. Interviewer: Okay um you might say I was just kidding him. I didn't know he'd get 888: Mad. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} um say you're at the theater and the and the at the show and the and the building catches on fire. And somebody might stand up and say we'll be alright just keep what? 888: Quiet. Interviewer: Okay or don't panic keep? 888: {X} Interviewer: No okay that's 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Quiet is the opposite of noisy. But what's the opposite of excited or panicked? 888: Excited or panicked? Interviewer: #1 Yeah that # 888: #2 Happy. # Interviewer: The opposite of it. The opposite of of uh scared would be? 888: Afraid? Interviewer: No that's the same thing. 888: #1 Frightened. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # The opposite. 888: Of scared? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I'd just say afraid. Interviewer: Okay what would somebody say if- you probably wouldn't say probably wouldn't care if you were quiet. He'd jump up and say now stay 888: Seated. Interviewer: He wants you to keep cool. What's another word for keep cool? {X} 888: Be calm. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Um. Mm. Okay if you'd been working real hard you might say you're real 888: Tired. Interviewer: Okay and if you'd been working real real hard and you're real real tired you might say you're all 888: Wore out. Interviewer: Okay um you hear somebody's in the hospital and you might say gosh he was looking fine yesterday. I wonder when it was he 888: Got sick. Interviewer: Okay uh say somebody got overheated and he got chilled and his eyes and nose started running you might say he what? 888: Bad cold. He got a bad cold. Interviewer: Okay uh and if the cold begins to affect his voice you might say he's beginning to get 888: A sore throat. Interviewer: Okay but I mean he has to whisper he's not 888: #1 Laryngitis? # Interviewer: #2 sound # Mm okay okay or I'm a little h- 888: Hoarse. Interviewer: And if he keeps going {NW} you'd say he's got a? 888: Bad cough. Interviewer: Okay um you might say about this time in the afternoon you might say I think I'll go to bed. I'm getting a little bit 888: Tired. Interviewer: Not so much 888: #1 Sleepy. # Interviewer: #2 tired. # Okay um okay at six o'clock in the morning I will? 888: Get up. Interviewer: O-okay but before that you have to? 888: {D: six o'clock in the morning you get up} Interviewer: Um okay but you have to set your alarm so that you will? 888: Get up Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 on time. # Interviewer: Okay but before you get out of bed before you can actually get up you're asleep and you have to? 888: Set the alarm. Interviewer: Okay but okay you set the alarm and then you go to sleep and then you're asleep and then you have to what w-um? 888: Mm you have to before you go back to sl- before you get up before you get up? Interviewer: Before you get up in the morning you're lying there and when you actually get out of bed you're already awake. 888: Uh-huh Interviewer: And before you're awake you have to- and you're asleep. Before you're awake you have to what up? 888: Turn the alarm off? Interviewer: Mm let's say you might say to somebody he's still sleeping you better go? 888: Wake him up. Interviewer: Okay so at six o'clock in the morning I will? 888: Wake him up. Interviewer: Okay okay or 888: {D: Oh what did I say wait} Interviewer: I-or would you just say I will? 888: I'll wake myself up. Interviewer: Okay okay um Um if the medicine is still by the patient's bedside you might ask why haven't you? 888: Taken your medicine. Interviewer: Okay and the patient might answer I something some yesterday. 888: I had some yesterday. Interviewer: Okay but if you use the word take? You might say I? 888: Taken some yesterday. Interviewer: Okay. And I will something some more later. 888: I will take some more some later. Interviewer: Okay and if somebody can't hear anything at all you might say he's stone 888: Crazy. Stone. Interviewer: Can't hear. 888: Stone crazy. Interviewer: No he's just he's 888: Repeat it again please. Interviewer: He just can't he just can't hear nothing. 888: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Speak up. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Speak up. 888: Oh he's deaf. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} If uh if somebody began to sweat when he started to work by the time he finished you'd say he really what a lot? 888: {X} Interviewer: Okay but if you're going to use the word sweat you'd say he really 888: Sweat a lot. Interviewer: Okay um. Okay some kind of-there's a certain kind of sore that people get and sometimes it comes on the back of a person's neck or I guess it can be anywhere but seems like a lot of times they're on the back of a person's neck and it's uh mm sometimes the doctor has to go in and lance it. And get that junk in it out. And uh it's like a big uh blister or something. Oh it's about that sm-that big. You know what I'm talking about? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh well they use the same word for um if you're going to cook something 888: #1 Oh. Boil. # Interviewer: #2 sometimes you have to put water on to. # Yeah okay uh when they have to lance open a boil what do you call that stuff that comes out? 888: Pus. Interviewer: Okay {NW} 888: {X} Interviewer: Yeah isn't that great. Got some more of those too. {X} When you get a blister okay just a regular blister like uh on your hand. 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: The liquid that forms under the skin you'd call what? 888: The liquid that forms under the skin? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Dead skin. Interviewer: Okay okay um. You might say a bee stung me and my hand 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: Swole. Interviewer: Okay and uh you might say it's still pretty badly? 888: Swole. Interviewer: Okay and but it's not infected so it probably won't what much? 888: Hurt much. Interviewer: Oh same word. 888: Swole much. Interviewer: Okay um okay if in a war if a bullet goes through your arm you'd say you have a? 888: A wound. Interviewer: Okay um have you ever heard of a kind of wound where it doesn't heal clean and a white kind of granular substance forms around the edge. Sometimes it has to be cut out or burned out {D: with alum} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay would you ever call any kind of flesh? 888: I would call it flesh. Interviewer: Okay have you ever ever heard it called uh proud flesh? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um if you got a little cut on your finger and you didn't want it go get infected you'd probably go get some medicine out of the medicine cabinet that's red 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 that # stings. #1 And it's got # 888: #2 Stings? # Interviewer: a skull and cross bones you know on the 888: Oh I think I know what you're talking about uh you talking about that iodine? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Okay. Interviewer: Um okay there's another there's a chemical kind of thing that people-uh that they used to give people tonic for malaria. And sometimes they give it to people in capsules for when they get a cold. For a fever. 888: {X} Interviewer: Mm yeah it's kind of like that but it's the uh stuff in it's stronger. 888: Couldn't tell you Interviewer: #1 Okay okay. # 888: #2 that is because # Interviewer: Um. You might say the doctor did everything he could but the patient what anyway? 888: Died anyway. Interviewer: Okay what are some other words for died? 888: Dead. Interviewer: I mean just a verb like died. He died or he what? 888: Lived. Interviewer: No just 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 that means died. # 888: Dead death. Interviewer: Um okay somebody comes up okay what would a preacher say? A preacher like at the funeral probably wouldn't say well he died on Wednesday. He'd probably say well on Wednesday he 888: Slept. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay and what's another word like that? 888: Sleep. Interviewer: Would you ever say passed? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay how- would you use it in a sentence for me? 888: He passed away. Interviewer: Okay okay um Which of those terms you consider to be most polite? 888: Which one of them terms? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I would say deceased. Interviewer: Okay okay um okay do you know of any crude and humorous ways to saying that he died like I sure am glad that old skin flint finally what? 888: Skin flint {NS} Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 Passed away. # Interviewer: Okay uh but this you're not meaning to be nice. Would you ever say uh 888: Well I'm glad you know I'm glad he what passed away uh Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 I'm glad he # Well I'm sure glad he's not I'm sure glad he's dead. Interviewer: Okay would you ever say kicked the bucket or cashed in or pegged out or anything like that? 888: Kicked the bucket. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Um you might say he's been dead a week and nobody's figured out yet what he? 888: Died of. Interviewer: Okay um okay and the place where they bury people is called a? 888: A cemetery. Interviewer: If it's small and out in the country you'd call it a? Something different same thing? 888: Something different. Out in the country? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Pasture? Interviewer: No uh where they bury people. 888: Oh. Interviewer: It'd it'd be kind of small. 888: Small. I couldn't tell you what that is. Interviewer: Okay would you call it a cemetery would you just? 888: I'd just call it a cemetery. Interviewer: Okay have you ever seen the kind- it's real small and they're out on the farm and usually just a family's buried there. 888: Yes I have. Interviewer: What would you call that? 888: Home burial I guess. Interviewer: Okay um what do they call the box that they put people in? To bury them in? 888: Casket. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 888: Anything else naming the casket? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: The box. Interviewer: Okay um you might say he was a really important man. Everybody turned out for his? 888: Funeral. Interviewer: Okay and if people are all dressed in black you'd say they are in? 888: All dressed in black. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Going to a funeral. Interviewer: Okay um. Okay say your walking down the street on just an average sort of day I mean you don't feel real good but you don't feel real bad either and somebody says hey how you doing you might say oh I'm just? 888: Hanging on. Interviewer: Okay um if somebody's troubled you might say oh it will come out all right don't? 888: Don't worry. Interviewer: Okay uh back to the joints and stuff I think you'd told me what what it is that people old people get in their joints you might say that I've got a touch of? 888: Arthritis. Interviewer: {NW} Would you say that again? 888: Arthritis. Interviewer: Okay um Used to be there was a disease that children died of it was a sever sore throat and they had like blisters on the inside of their throat and they'd choke in the middle of the night. 888: Oh they'd choke in the middle of the night? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And they die from it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Yeah. There's a- you have to get a shot for it now before you can enter school. 888: Oh. Interviewer: I think it's a it seems like a there's a shot where you get three? 888: Vaccination shot. Interviewer: Yeah. And it's for a certain disease. The name of the disease is what I'm looking for. 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 You get one # What? 888: Polio? Interviewer: Okay it's a different one. 888: Diphtheria? Interviewer: Yeah um. Okay if you're skin and your eye balls turn yellow and there's something wrong with your kidneys probably you'd say you're getting? 888: Yellow fever. Interviewer: Okay um. If you have a sharp pain in your lower right abdomen you'd and you might have to have an operation you'd say you have? 888: Your appendix. Interviewer: Okay what what's the disease called? 888: What is it called? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Down in your stomach? Interviewer: Yeah if you have to have your appendix taken out you'd say you have a what? 888: Disease in there? Interviewer: Okay um Okay when you eat and drink things that don't-oh I don't want to talk about this 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # when you eat and drink things that don't agree with you you might and they come back up you might say that you? 888: Vomit them up. Interviewer: Okay or what's another word for vomit? 888: Throw up. Interviewer: Okay which of those two is more polite? 888: Vomit. Interviewer: Okay um. What are some crude terms that you know for that? That you wouldn't use in polite company you know. 888: Uh throw up throw it all throwed up his food Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And spit out his food. Interviewer: Okay okay um say it's at a party and it's pretty warm and so on and you might say I think I better get some fresh air I'm beginning to feel a little sick. 888: In the stomach? Interviewer: Okay I don't want to talk about that. {NW} 888: {X} Interviewer: Yeah. Okay say you had a real gossipy neighbor. 888: Mm. Interviewer: You might say man she hardly got the news when she came right over to what? 888: She hardly got the news when she came right over to listen. Interviewer: Uh not to listen but she wanted you to know about it so she came over to? 888: Blab. Blab about it. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: We got some nosy neighbors like that. Interviewer: {NW} 888: Just like yesterday we were you know you know how you got me {X} yesterday. Everybody said can I see it can I see it? Interviewer: I imagine I imagine. Is-you're probably the the head of the neighborhood now. 888: Yeah I am. Interviewer: {NW} 888: Got to put some good locks in the door. Interviewer: Yeah you'd better. Somebody's going to come in and lift your stereo. 888: Yeah don't let me catch him {X} go down with a thirty thirty. Interviewer: {NW} It did come {X} 888: Yeah it came yesterday. Interviewer: That's good. Were you there when it came? 888: Yes I was there they you know brought it I was sitting right there looking at the T.V. and they just dropped off. They surprised me because I thought they weren't going to come. But they came yesterday. Interviewer: That's great. Where'd you get it? 888: Huh? Interviewer: Where'd you get it? 888: {D: At Johnskys.} {X} I had to make another you know more room you know because I didn't Like you uh I had some room you know for it to go but had to make a little more room for it you know. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: It's really long and the eight track. That's that's why I borrowed this tape today from this dude. Interviewer: It's got It's got a tape player in it? 888: Yeah it's got an eight track player and stereo and FM radio and AM radio. It's pretty nice. I like it. Interviewer: Very neat. What kind of music do you like? 888: I mostly like soul music. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And uh the jazz. Jazz music too. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: As in I'm going to the jazz festival. Supposed to be leaving tonight around seven-thirty. And I'll be in Houston. Yeah. Interviewer: You're going to this tonight? You're going? 888: Well I mean the jazz festival is Saturday but I'm going up there because they want me to come on up there now. Interviewer: That's neat. That's neat. Well we won't get together tomorrow then if you're going to be in Houston. I had forgotten about that. 888: Yeah that's true. I wo- I won't be here Friday. Interviewer: Well next week. 888: Yeah okay that'd be Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 fine. # Interviewer: Okay. You're going to have a good weekend. 888: Yeah I am going to have a good Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 week. Get away from # San Antonio man. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Meet some new people. Interviewer: That'll be neat. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay you might say if I don't get to go I what be disappointed? 888: If I don't get to go I'd be uh mad. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} Okay say this boy keeps going over to this same girl's house all the time. You might say he is what? 888: Stuck on that girl. Interviewer: Okay and or you might say they are what? 888: Going together. Interviewer: Okay okay uh when you say going together does that mean that they're dating somebody else too or? not or what do you mean exactly when you say going together? 888: Well I would just say they are together they're going together. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And I would say they just like being engaged. Interviewer: Okay okay um okay uh when a boy and girl are going together uh he is he would be called her what? 888: She would be called her? Interviewer: He-he would be called her? 888: Fiancée. Interviewer: Okay say they weren't engaged yet. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: So you know then what would you say? 888: Oh boyfriend. Interviewer: Okay and and she'd be his 888: Girlfriend. Interviewer: Okay um say a boy comes home with lipstick on his collar and his little brother goes aha you've been what? 888: Kissing. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Um okay if a girl stops letting this boy come over to see her you'd say she? 888: She doesn't like him no more. Interviewer: Okay. Um but what does she do? 888: She quit him. Interviewer: Okay. And if he had asked her to marry him and she said no you'd say-you'd say she? 888: She didn't want to get married. Interviewer: Okay uh if they were they might maybe okay maybe they were engaged. But then all of a sudden she just? 888: {NS} Quit him. Interviewer: Okay okay um now if a man did that to a woman would you use the same word? Same phrase? 888: If a man did it to a woman? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Um I would say dropped him. Interviewer: Okay okay uh Okay say that {NS} they didn't break up you'd say they went ahead and got? 888: Married. Interviewer: Okay and at a wedding the man who stands up {NS} is the {NS} 888: Bride. Interviewer: #1 Uh # 888: #2 Wait what you say # The man that Interviewer: #1 The man you know # 888: #2 stands # Interviewer: who usually holds the ring. 888: Oh the preacher. Interviewer: Um no there's a-okay you got the preacher in the middle and the groom here and the bride here and usually there's a man on the other side of the groom and a girl on the other side of the bride like that. And you know what do you call those those other two in the wedding? 888: Best man. Interviewer: Okay and what do you call the girl on the other side of the bride? 888: Best girl? Interviewer: Okay um Have you ever heard of uh the kind of deal where after the wedding all the boys in the neighborhood gather around the couples house and make all kinds of noise and stuff like that. Have you ever heard anything like that? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Do you have a name for it? 888: No but I don't- but they don't do that today. They used to do that a long time ago. Interviewer: Yeah yeah I had never heard of the {X} either. Um okay you might say about seeing a friend I saw him mm in Houston? 888: I saw him yesterday in Houston. Interviewer: Okay would you ever say down in Houston or up in Houston or over in Houston? 888: Up in Houston. Interviewer: Okay uh what if it was uh what if it was in Fort-Fort Worth say? I saw him what in Fort Worth? 888: I seen him in Fort Worth. Interviewer: Okay would you say over in Fort Worth or up in Fort Worth or down in Fort Worth? 888: Up in Fort Worth. Interviewer: Okay what if it was in um Corpus Christi? Uh would you say I saw him up in Corpus Christi or down in Corpus Christi or over in Corpus Christi? 888: I seen him over in Corpus Christi. Interviewer: Okay okay um what's the difference? When do you use over and when do you use up? 888: It's the same thing. You can turn it in. Interviewer: Oh it's the same thing. 888: Same thing I mean up and down. Up and over. Interviewer: Okay okay um same thing for uh some body living in somebody's house. You might say he lives something at the Brown's house. 888: He lives at the Brown's house. Interviewer: Okay but would you ever use over or up or down in there? 888: Oh he lives over at the Brown's house. Interviewer: #1 Okay okay # 888: #2 Over. # Interviewer: Um if you said that how far away would the Brown's probably be at I mean? Not very far away or- 888: Not very far away. Interviewer: Okay what if they live uh across town or something? 888: He lives uh he lives up Interviewer: Okay. 888: Uptown. Interviewer: Okay uh what if they live in the next say ten or twenty miles away? Out from town. Then you'd say he lives what at the Brown's. 888: Ten miles away? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: He lives uh I guess he lives up. Interviewer: Okay okay um okay say there was a party and there was some there was some trouble at the party but not everybody's making trouble just a few of them are making trouble. But the police came arrested the 888: Whole bunch. Interviewer: Okay. Mm after football games and stuff schools a lot of times will sponsor a? 888: After the school a dance? Interviewer: Okay um You might say four o'clock is the time when school? 888: Gets out. Interviewer: Okay. And after the the day after labor day is the day that school? 888: Closes. Holiday. Interviewer: Uh it's-okay. After Labor Day it's the end of the summer vacation so that's when school? 888: Ends. I mean Interviewer: It's the 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 vacation that ends # unfortunately. 888: Starts. Interviewer: Okay okay. What's another word you might use for starts? Starts with a B. 888: Beginning. Interviewer: Okay uh okay if a boy left home to go to school and didn't show up you'd say he {NS} 888: Shooting the hook Interviewer: He what? 888: Shooting a hook Interviewer: What's that? 888: Well that's when person's supposed to have come somewhere go somewhere and never shows up. Or somewhere that somebody sent him. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay so it doesn't just apply to school. 888: It doesn't no it don't. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay. Would you use it in a sentence for me? 888: He shot a hook yesterday off. He shot a hook. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um okay you-you go to school in order to get an? 888: Education. Interviewer: Okay and after high school you go on to? 888: College. Interviewer: And after kindergarten you go into the? 888: After kindergarten. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Junior. Oh after kindergarten. What grade? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: First grade. Interviewer: Okay um used to be children sat down at um benches in school but now they sit at? 888: Desks. Interviewer: Okay and each child has his own? 888: Desk. Interviewer: Okay and uh if you want to check out a book you go to the? 888: Library. Interviewer: Okay and you mail a package at the? 888: Post office. Interviewer: And you stay over night in a strange town at a? 888: Place. Interviewer: Okay um what would you call it? 888: Town. Interviewer: Uh the- you might say-stay at the uh the Hilton 888: #1 Oh # Interviewer: #2 Or the Sheraton. # And those are? 888: Hotel. Interviewer: Okay um. You go to see a play or movie at the what? 888: Movies. Interviewer: Okay okay um anything else you might call the place where you go? 888: Auditorium convention center. Interviewer: Okay. Uh you go to the what to have an operation? 888: Hospital. Interviewer: Okay and somebody who looks after you in the hospital and and takes your pulse and gives you shots and? 888: Doctor. Interviewer: Okay or a? 888: Nurse. Interviewer: Okay um and you catch a train at the? 888: Train station. Interviewer: Okay or the rail- 888: Rail station. Interviewer: Okay um what do you call the place in the center of town around the courthouse? 888: The place around the courthouse? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: In town. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there-I don't know if there is one- is there one here? 888: Yeah we got a courthouse. Interviewer: Yeah. Is there a little green place around it of some kind? Those grassy places or something like that. 888: Not that I know of. Interviewer: Okay well have you seen little towns where there's like a green green uh place you know around the courthouse? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um okay uh say there's a vacant lot at the corner and you go across it instead of using sidewalk to go around it you know you'd-if you do that you'd say your walking? 888: On the grass. Interviewer: Okay um let me ask it another way. Okay so here's a street. And here's a street. Okay and there's a building right here and a building here and a building here and a building here okay this building and this building would be across the street from each other right? 888: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Okay and this building and this building are what from each other? 888: Apart from each other. Interviewer: Okay is there a particular word you might use for that? 888: In between each other. Interviewer: Would you ever say okay there's something across the street from each other #1 it's it's another word # 888: #2 there's a building # across the street. Interviewer: Okay it's another word and it kind of means diagonal. Because see these are straight across the street but these are diagonally across the street but there's another word for diagonal. 888: Rectangle. Interviewer: {D: Would you ever use kitty-corner or katy-cater cornered or catty-cornered or?} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay okay uh let's see oh now they have buses in San Antonio you know public transportation? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: But used to be they had you can still see the tracks where some of them used to? 888: Oh oh uh rail cars. Interviewer: Okay okay um Okay you might tell a bus driver the next corner is where I want? 888: To get off. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And a cat goes over to the door and meows you might say the cat? 888: Meowed. Interviewer: The cat wants? 888: Some milk. Interviewer: No he goes over to the door. 888: Oh he goes to the oh he wants to get out. Interviewer: Okay uh Okay. San Antonio is the it's where the have all the county government for Bexar county. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: You know all the county offices and stuff like that are here. And you you'd say that San Antonio is the county what? 888: Of Bexar county? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Of Bexar? Interviewer: Yeah it's the main city and another word for the main city would be? 888: San Antonio. Interviewer: Okay yeah have you ever heard it call the the county capital or the county seat or the county side or the county town? 888: County county town. Interviewer: Okay um okay if you're an FBI agent then you work for the federal? 888: Agency. Interviewer: Okay uh but the whole thing would be the federal? 888: Investigation. Interviewer: Um okay. 888: Private investigation. Interviewer: At school you have to take a course in history and then usually a course in? 888: World history. Interviewer: Um well I think they called it civics when I was in school. Always thought it was a stupid name. But in civics like you study that uh the United States. There are three branches the judiciary the legislative and the executive branches of? 888: United States. Interviewer: Okay the united states gov- 888: Governor. Interviewer: What? 888: Governor uh. Interviewer: Okay um 888: #1 Legislational # Interviewer: #2 Is that # 888: Did you say repeat that again. Interviewer: Just just what do you call the organization that um that governs I guess. Uh that rules. You'd say it's the? 888: Democrats. Interviewer: Um. The word I want is two s- is is simpler. The closest you've come is when you said governor but uh um okay who who pays the postmaster? 888: The city. Interviewer: Not the city but the federal what? 888: Labor department. Interviewer: Uh the whole thing. The whole organization up there that's in you know the? 888: #1 Federal # Interviewer: #2 okay # 888: Federal tax. Go ahead. Interviewer: Okay the president is the head of the federal? 888: Government. Interviewer: What? 888: Federal government. Interviewer: Okay okay {NW} a political candidate who wants the police to get tougher says he's for what? 888: President. Interviewer: Okay uh the police are supposed to enforce the what? 888: Law. Interviewer: Okay and so somebody wants them to get tougher he wants them to enforce the law and? 888: The rules. Interviewer: Uh okay Richard Nixon was this was a big slogan of his campaign. Law and something. 888: Law and repeat that again? Interviewer: It was a big um it's kind of a motto sort of thing from when Richard Nixon ran for president. Law and? 888: Order. Interviewer: Okay now would you say the whole phrase for me? 888: Law Interviewer: I'm sorry what? 888: Law and order. Interviewer: Okay okay um okay and eighteen sixty-one to eighteen sixty-five in this country we had a war that we call the? 888: Battle of flowers? Interviewer: What? 888: Battle of flowers. Interviewer: In this country. 888: In this country? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: World War one. Interviewer: Uh earlier than that. Lincoln was president. 888: Uh world war Interviewer: The-the slaves were freed. It wasn't a world war. 888: What year I mean? Interviewer: It was a hundred years ago. 888: Hundred years ago. Interviewer: More than a hundred years ago. 888: And what do we call it? Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah the south was going to secede from the union and uh and because of that well they did I guess secede and Jefferson Davis was appointed you know or elected president of the south and Lincoln was president of the whole country at the time and the guys that the soldiers in the south wore gray and the the army in the north wore wore blue. 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: and and uh the song Dixie got to be the oh what was it song for the south at that time. And it was the north against the south you know. What-what war is that? 888: United States war? Interviewer: Okay okay um okay used to be before they had the electric chair murderers were? 888: Hung by the neck. Interviewer: Okay and you might say that man felt so bad that he went out and what himself? 888: Hung his self. Interviewer: Okay um Um okay the largest city in this country is what would you say? 888: New York. Interviewer: And New York is in what state? 888: United States. Interviewer: Mm Okay this is Texas and New York is in what? 888: Texas. Interviewer: N- 888: I mean New York. Interviewer: Okay okay uh would you say the whole thing with state on the end? 888: {x} New York state. Interviewer: Okay um okay Baltimore is in? 888: Baltimore is in Interviewer: What state? 888: Northeast state? Interviewer: Okay um okay Richmond is the capital of what state? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay do what why don't you name as many southern states as you can think of for me? You know the ones in the-across the south. 888: Across the south? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Okay. Italy. That's not in the south. Interviewer: No no no no that doesn't count. Try again. Okay what's this state? 888: San- I mean the United States. Interviewer: I mean this just? 888: Texas. Interviewer: Okay and then the one just north of here is? 888: Did- the one that's in the north of here? Interviewer: Yeah yeah just north of here just. It's-it's shaped. It's shaped. It has a panhandle that sticks out 888: #1 Nevada? # Interviewer: #2 about like that. # Uh it has a bunch of Indians up there. And there was a musical. {C: singing} Okay um I'm not going to sing anymore. {NW} Okay what's the state just to the east of here? 888: Just to the east of here. I'm not too good at maps states. Interviewer: Maps and stuff. Where-where do Cajuns live? 888: Cajuns? Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 I don't know. # Interviewer: Okay uh let's see Okay can you think of any other states just states? Names of states. 888: New York uh that's a lot I mean. There's a lot of states but I just can't think of all them states. Interviewer: Okay uh let's see. Um Columbia is the capital of 888: United States? Interviewer: Mm No. 888: #1 Columbus # Interviewer: #2 um # 888: What is it? {NS} Interviewer: Uh what what okay what's-what's the capital of the united states? 888: The capital of the United States? Interviewer: Uh-huh. The whole thing. Wash- 888: Oh Washington DC oh. Interviewer: Okay okay um okay uh during the {NS} {X} 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay um okay. What are two southern states where they grow a lot of peaches? 888: {X} Interviewer: Um okay Tallahassee is the capital of? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay uh what-what state's Cape Canaveral in? Do you know? 888: Cape what? Interviewer: Canaveral? You know where the blast the rockets off from? 888: Cape Kennedy? Interviewer: Yeah where-what state's it in? 888: Kennedy? Interviewer: It's the-uh it's the state that like here's the United States and it kind of hangs down here. On the far east coast. Okay just let me go through the rest of these first asks. Uh George Wallace is the governor of what state? {NW} 888: I don't know. Interviewer: No. Um Baton Rouge is the capital of? And New Orleans is there? That's 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay the blue grass state is what? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay the volunteer state? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay there's one called the show me state? 888: The show me state. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: No I don't know. Interviewer: Okay what's the state named after the biggest river in the country? 888: Mississippi. Interviewer: Okay um Okay and Little Rock is the capital of? 888: Little Rock little? Interviewer: What? 888: Austin. Interviewer: Uh let's see. Tulsa Tulsa is in what state? 888: Texas. Interviewer: Mm okay Boston is in? 888: Texas. Interviewer: Okay the states from Maine to Connecticut are called the new what? 888: The new uh {X} but I just can't remember. Interviewer: Okay um oh the biggest city in Maryland? Would-do you know what that is? 888: The biggest city in Maryland? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Okay um the biggest city in Missouri and it has a famous blues name for it? 888: A famous blue- in Missouri? Interviewer: Uh-huh. There was a world's fair there one time. In the thirties I think. 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay uh {NS} what's the old historical sea port in South Carolina? How about the steel making town in Alabama? How about the big city in Illinois where Al Capone ran rackets? 888: {NW} Interviewer: And they had the democratic convention there uh once and they had riots and stuff? Remember that? 888: {NS} You said Al Capone? Interviewer: Yeah Al Capone was there. Used to be. Not anymore. Um say the capital of Alabama is? {NS} 888: Capital of Alabama? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: #1 I don't know # Interviewer: #2 What # Can you think of any other cities in Alabama? There's one on the coast. That- 888: New Jersey. Interviewer: Okay uh Oh there's a city up in the mountains in North Carolina. Um what are some big uh cities in Tennessee? Can you think of any? 888: In Tennessee? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. There's the one where they have all the country and western music now you know? 888: Uh {D: Toko i mean.} Interviewer: Uh okay there's one that has uh a song named after it and it's called the something something choo-choo. And the something something is the name of this town. No no doesn't ring a bell? Okay uh Let's see the capital and the largest city in Georgia? How about the biggest seaport in Georgia? Okay um okay the biggest city in southern Georgia is what? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay and Fort Benning is near what town in Georgia? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: It's the same as the name of the guy who discovered America. 888: #1 Columbus # Interviewer: #2 Christo- # What? 888: Columbus. Interviewer: Yeah okay um what's the biggest city in Louisiana? They have Mardi Gras and so on. 888: New Orleans? Interviewer: Okay. And the capital of Louisiana is? 888: California- Louis- Louisiana? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh okay what's uh the biggest uh cities on the Ohio river? You know? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay let's go on to countries. This is different now okay. Paris would be the capital of? 888: Great Britain. Interviewer: Uh okay it's close to there but it's a bigger country. Um 888: Spain. Interviewer: Okay just north of Spain. 888: Uh Further? Interviewer: What? 888: {X} Interviewer: {NW} I didn't here what you said. 888: Oh {X} Interviewer: No no try again. Um Mm let's see Moscow is the capital of? 888: Britain? Interviewer: Uh well the cosmonauts are from where? You know the cosmonauts that are going to rendezvous with our? 888: Where's they from? Interviewer: Space ship. Yeah what country are they from? 888: Texas. Interviewer: No. 888: I mean. Interviewer: The cosm- you know not our cosmo- not our astronauts but their cosmonauts. are from? 888: Russia. Interviewer: Okay and uh over the British Isles there's England and Scotland and Wales and one more country. 888: Spain? Interviewer: Uh they have Saint Patrick's day and they're color's green? And 888: {X} {C:mumbling a lot through here} Interviewer: Mm? 888: {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 Uh # Interviewer: Let's see 888: Rhode Island. Interviewer: I'm trying to think of another way another hint uh oh they-they they're having trouble between the protestants and the catholics there. And the protestants are and catholics are bombing each other's houses and stuff like that in this country. 888: Mm. Interviewer: Okay uh 888: {X} Interviewer: {NW} Okay I might say about how far is it from here to {D: New Bronkles?} 888: {D: How many miles is it form New Bronkles?} Interviewer: Yeah okay. And you're going to answer me. And you might say oh it's about make up a figure I don't know how far it is. 888: About eight miles. Interviewer: Okay uh say it again? 888: About eight miles. Interviewer: Okay um if somebody asks you if you want to go with him and you're not sure if you want to you say oh I don't know? 888: should I? Interviewer: Something I want to? I don't know if I? 888: I don't know if I should. Interviewer: Okay um if somebody asks you to do something you might say I don't know mm I can do it or not. 888: I don't know if I can do it or not. Interviewer: Okay um Okay if you want somebody to go with you you might say I won't go mm he does. 888: I won't go he he does. Interviewer: Um 888: I mean I won't go but she will. Interviewer: No you want you want him to go too. 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 You you go # So I won't go mm you go. 888: But she'll go. Interviewer: Uh would you ever say without he goes or 'less he goes or unless unless he goes or lessen he goes? 888: Lessen he's going less he. Interviewer: Okay would you use that in a sentence for me? 888: I won't go unlessen he lessen he will go. Interviewer: Okay um when you could have used some help you might say afterwards say you were doing a job you know and you could have used some help you say well why did you stand around mm helping me? 888: {X} Why did you just stand around would you help me? Interviewer: Uh okay if you had a choice of doing two things uh and you said well I was going to do that-this but I decided to do that mm. 888: I I decided to do this later. Interviewer: Uh not later but? What's another word that you might tack on the end there? I was going to do this but I decided to do that? 888: Now. Interviewer: Mm okay. Um I might say why do you like him anyway and you might say well I like him what? 888: Because he's nice. Interviewer: Okay um what church-what church is it that Reverend Bailey is a preacher of? 888: Saint John. Interviewer: Saint John's what? 888: Baptist church. Interviewer: I'm sorry would you say that? 888: Saint John Baptist church. Interviewer: Okay okay if uh if somebody becomes a member you'd say he what? 888: Joined. Baptized. Interviewer: Okay okay in church you worship who? 888: God. Interviewer: What? 888: God. Interviewer: Okay um you might say the preacher delivered a fine? 888: Sermon. Interviewer: Okay and requiring the organist provided good? 888: Choir. Interviewer: #1 Choir what? # 888: #2 Singing. # Interviewer: Yeah or? The organist didn't sing he just played? 888: Piano. Organ. Interviewer: Okay. In order to play he had to open up some stuff on his on the top of the organ and then he has to read what? 888: The music. Interviewer: Okay Um You might say that was a mm service. 888: Good service. Interviewer: Okay or if you thought it was pretty another word for pretty might be? 888: Another word for pretty? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Stronger-stronger word. 888: It was a Interviewer: {X} 888: happy sermon. Interviewer: Um let's see. There's a song from Oklahoma. {C: singing} 888: What a good sermon. Interviewer: No the da- da- da- {NW} There's a word that goes in there. 888: Oh da- da- da- Interviewer: Okay if you see a really pretty sunset you might say wow that is just? 888: Just pretty. Interviewer: Stronger word. 888: Stronger word? Interviewer: It starts with a b. 888: Oh beautiful sun. Interviewer: Okay um if you had to change a flat tire on the way to church one Sunday morning you might say gosh church is going to be over? what? 888: Soon. Interviewer: Well but your- you want to get there and you say before I can get this tire changes church is? 888: It's going to be out. Interviewer: Okay okay. Um. What do people sometimes tell children would come and get them if they didn't behave? 888: Repeat that please. Interviewer: Did your mother ever used to-if you tell you that is you didn't behave this particular kind of person was going to come and get you? 888: The devil. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay do you have any other names for the devil? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um what is it that people sometimes think they see around a graveyard? 888: Ghost. Interviewer: Okay uh what kind of house has these kinds of things in it? 888: A haunted. Interviewer: Okay um you might say if you had a choice you might say I'd? No let's put it another way. I might say well I'll go if you insist but I'd mm not. 888: Rather not. Interviewer: Okay um. What do you say to a friend that you haven't seen for a long time. How do you express you know you're feeling about seeing him? 888: How do I how I express myself about seeing a friend I ain't never seen I mean lately? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I would say uh long time no see. Interviewer: Okay okay how would you tell him that you're really glad to see him? 888: By-by shaking his hand or you know giving him big big hugs something like that. Interviewer: Okay okay uh okay say you know some guy who owns five hundred acres of land. You'd say that's a what of land? 888: Lot of land. Interviewer: Okay um If you want to express agreement with somebody stronger and more enthusiastically than by just saying yes what would you say? {NS} 888: Express agreement? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I would say thank you and for your time and your cooperation. Interviewer: I mean like if I say golly it's hot in here and you don't just say yes you say? 888: Yes it's really hot in here. Interviewer: Okay um uh let's see. I might say do you really think you can do that? And you might say I mm can. 888: Yes I can. Interviewer: I- 888: I mean Interviewer: I something can. Put-fill in the something. 888: Oh. Interviewer: Do you really think you can do that? You say I mm can. 888: I sure can. Interviewer: Okay um. If you want to be real polite to somebody like oh just some friends of your parents or somebody like that would you say yes no or would you say yes? 888: Yes sir Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 and yes ma'am. # Interviewer: Okay um. If somebody uh intensely disliked going somewhere you'd say he mm hated that place. 888: He sure hated that place. Interviewer: Okay uh You might say it wasn't just a little hot last week it was what hot? 888: {X} It was really hot last week. Interviewer: Okay okay um Okay if something shocking is reporting you might hear somebody say why the very? 888: Shocking thing happen? Interviewer: Uh there's just a one little one little word. Why the 888: Why the Interviewer: It's an exclamation. 888: Why did it happen? Interviewer: Mm okay um when a friend says good morning what do you say to him in return? 888: Good morning. Interviewer: Okay um when you're introduced to a stranger what do you say? When you shake their hand you know and say? 888: How you doing? Interviewer: Okay um if somebody's leaving after a visit you might tell them I hope you'll come? 888: Next time. Interviewer: Okay or another word for next time would be? 888: Soon. Interviewer: Okay or another word? {NW} Come back a-? 888: See me. See. Interviewer: Uh okay the word would start with? 888: Come back in Interviewer: a- a- 888: Again? Interviewer: Okay. Okay. {NS} Um how would you greet somebody about December the 25th? 888: Uh Christmas. I would say Merry Christmas. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 And # And happy m-merry merry Christmas and happy new years. Interviewer: Okay have you ever heard anything besides merry Christmas? Older people say? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Okay um. What's something that you might say by way of appreciation besides just thank you? You might say oh I'm much o-? 888: Obliged. Interviewer: Okay uh. Okay you might say I have to go to town to do some? 888: Work. Interviewer: Mm you're going to buy stuff. 888: Oh shop. Interviewer: Okay to-to do what now? 888: Shop. Interviewer: Okay to shop okay. Um okay say you bought something and the storekeeper took a piece of paper and he? 888: Rolled it together. Interviewer: Okay or he what the package up in it? 888: Wrapped the package. Interviewer: Okay and when you got home you had to? 888: {NS} Unwrap. {NS} Unwrap the package. Interviewer: Say that again. 888: Unwrap the package. Interviewer: Okay uh um okay if a storekeeper sold something for two dollars that he paid three dollars for you'd say he'd be selling it? 888: For more. Interviewer: He's really selling it for less. 888: Oh you said he's selling it for two dollars. And he's Interviewer: And he paid three. 888: And he's paying three. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: He's- he's selling it for cheaper. Interviewer: Okay um you might say gee I sure do like that mm motorcycle. But I can't buy it because it what? 888: Cost too much. Interviewer: I'm sorry? 888: Cost too much. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. When it's time to pay the bill you say the bill is? {NS} 888: Overdue. Time to be paid. Interviewer: Okay what was the first thing you said? 888: Overdue. Interviewer: Okay and to stay in good standing at a club or lodge you have to pay your? 888: Bill. Interviewer: Uh or your Du- 888: Oh your dues. Interviewer: Okay um if you if you need to cut the grass and you don't have a lawn mower you go over to a neighbor and ask to? {NS} 888: Cut his grass. Interviewer: Mm you're going to cut your grass. You don't want to cut his grass. You just want a lawnmower. 888: Oh you just want a lawnmower. Interviewer: Uh-huh. So you ask to And he's got one. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And so you ask to what his lawnmower? 888: Let me lawn your let me use your lawnmower. Interviewer: Okay or what's another word for you know loan it to me? Let me what? 888: Let me borrow it from you. Interviewer: Alright. Um {NS} Uh back in the depression they used to say money was real? 888: Scarce. Interviewer: Okay um somebody ran down the the springboard at the pool and what in? 888: Bent in. Interviewer: What? 888: B- Bent in. Interviewer: Um okay he's on the diving board 888: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 okay? # And he didn't jump in but he went head first? 888: Oh he dived in. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and you might say a lot of boys will what off that high board? 888: Jump off the high board. Interviewer: Okay but if they go head first then they will? 888: Dive off the high board. Interviewer: Okay. And nine or ten have what off the arms? 888: Dived off them? Interviewer: Okay uh if you-if you dive in and hit the water flat you'd call that a? 888: Hit the water flat? Interviewer: Uh-huh it hurts sometimes. 888: Stomach. Uh stomach. Stomach buster. Interviewer: Okay okay uh Oh when kids are out-out playing like out playing on the grass or something they uh they turn cart wheels or turn? 888: Tricycles. Interviewer: No it's just another little thing. Tumbling kind of thing that they can do. They can turn 888: #1 Oh # Interviewer: #2 cart-? # 888: somersaults. Interviewer: Okay um you might say he wanted to get across the river so he dived in and? 888: Swimmed across the river. {NS} Interviewer: What? 888: Swimmed across the river. Interviewer: Okay and you might say children like to what in the big creek? 888: Swim. Interviewer: Okay and I have what there myself? 888: Swim. Interviewer: What? 888: Swim. Interviewer: Okay uh when you buy something or pay your bill sometimes the storekeeper will uh give you a little present and say it's for? 888: Christmas. Interviewer: Okay uh {NS} okay somebody couldn't swim very well and he went down for the third time didn't ever see him again you'd say he? 888: Drowned. Interviewer: Okay and I might say I wasn't there. I didn't see him? 888: But I did. Interviewer: I didn't see him what? 888: Drown. Interviewer: Okay and many people had what in the same spot? 888: Many people what? Interviewer: Had mm in the same spot. 888: Drowned in the same spot. Interviewer: Okay uh what does a baby do before it's able to walk? 888: Crawl. Interviewer: Okay and uh I might say that would be a hard mountain to? 888: Climb. Interviewer: Okay my neighbor what it last year? 888: My neighbor climbed that last year. Interviewer: Okay but I never have what a mountain in my life? 888: I never climbed a mountain in my life. Interviewer: Okay um if you're playing hide-and-seek and you find yourself near a stump you have to do what to get down behind it? 888: Stoop. Interviewer: Okay uh okay a little child is saying his prayers and so he went over beside his bed and? 888: Went over beside his bed Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: and got on his knees. Interviewer: Okay what's a word for get on your knees? 888: Squat? Interviewer: Mm 888: A word to get down on your knees? Interviewer: Uh-huh. In this church they have-they have boards for it. 888: Uh-huh. What's another word Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 888: #2 for it? # Interviewer: The people come in and something and pray. 888: I just say Interviewer: Uh sometimes the preacher'll say all rise or all stand you know and everybody stands up and and in a church like this he'll say all? 888: All bow. Interviewer: Um this is when he wants them to get down on their knees and this is one word usually. All kn- 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 kn- # Kn- kn- okay. Uh you might say I'm feeling kind of tired. I think I'll go over to the couch and? 888: Lay down. Interviewer: Okay uh you might say he was really sick. He couldn't even sit up he just what in bed all day? 888: Sleep-slept in bed all day. Interviewer: Okay or maybe he didn't sleep he just what there? 888: Laid in bed all day. Interviewer: Okay uh talking about something that you saw in your sleep you'd say this is what I? 888: Dream. Interviewer: Okay and often when I go to sleep I? 888: Dream. Interviewer: Okay but I can't always remember what I have? 888: Dreamed. Interviewer: Okay. Um you might say I dreamed I was falling but just as I was about to hit the ground I? 888: Woke up. Interviewer: Okay um if I go {C: Interviewer stomps her foot three times} like this you might say don't what your foot? 888: Don't stomp your foot. Interviewer: Okay um if you see a friend leaving a party alone you might say can I? 888: Go with you? Interviewer: Okay. Or uh if you were in a car? 888: Oh. Interviewer: What would you say? Can I? 888: Catch a ride with you. Interviewer: Uh okay but if you had the car and he was walking you'd say can I? 888: Give you a lift. Interviewer: Okay um okay to get a boat up on the land you'd tie a rope to the boat and? 888: Pull. Interviewer: Okay and the opposite of pull is? 888: Opposite of pull push. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay uh say you had a three sacks of groceries. And you didn't have any car and so you had to {X} {NS} Interviewer: {NS} Okay Uh say you had three sacks of groceries okay and you had to take them home. And you didn't have your car so you picked them up and what? 888: Packed them. Interviewer: Okay um is there-they're a little heavy you'd say you what? 888: They was really really heavy. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 Heavy. # Interviewer: What'd you say? {X} 888: Packed them. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} you might tell a child that stove is real hot so 888: Watch out. Interviewer: Okay or don't? 888: Touch it. Interviewer: Okay um if I want a knife and I send somebody for it I might say go and what the knife? 888: Get me a kn- get me a knife. Interviewer: Okay um Let's see. {NS} Okay um You throw a ball to somebody and ask him to 888: Catch it. Interviewer: Okay and I threw the ball and he? 888: Caught it. Interviewer: Okay and I have been fishing for trout but I have not? 888: Caught anything Interviewer: Okay um I might say there's no need to hurry I'll wait what you? 888: Here. Interviewer: I'll wait something you. 888: I'll wait for you. Interviewer: Okay um if you're about to punish your child he might say to you oh please what me another? 888: Give me another chance. Interviewer: Okay um {NW} if somebody's always got a smile on his face and always has a pleasant word for everybody and he always seems to be in a good? 888: Uh mood. Interviewer: What? 888: Good mood. Interviewer: Okay um you might say there's that pesky salesman again. Wait 'til I 888: Get him. Interviewer: Huh? 888: Wait 'til I get him. Interviewer: Okay what if you were just going to tell him to go away? 888: Oh {D: Lizard piss} {NS} Interviewer: Wait 'til I what of him? 888: Get rid of him. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} Uh you might say about somebody {NW} he didn't know what was going on but he something like he knew it all. 888: He he seem like he know what was going on. Interviewer: Okay um say a kid left his best pencil on the desk and he came back and he couldn't find it he'd say I bet somebody 888: #1 Swiped # Interviewer: #2 what? # 888: my pencil. Interviewer: What if it was somebody-something more valuable? What would you say? 888: Somebody uh stole the pencil. Interviewer: Okay um you might say gosh I'd forgotten about that but now I {NW} 888: Now I- repeat it please? Interviewer: You might say I had forgotten about that but now I 888: Remember. Interviewer: Okay um you might say to me well you sure must have a better memory than I do because I sure? 888: Didn't remember. Interviewer: Okay um You say I have just what him a letter? 888: Wrote him a letter. Interviewer: Okay and yesterday he what me a letter? 888: Wrote me a letter. Interviewer: Okay and tomorrow I will 888: Write him a letter. Interviewer: Okay and talking about the letter you might say it's about time I was getting im- 888: A letter. Interviewer: Uh okay if I ask you a question you'll give me an? 888: Answer. Interviewer: Okay um okay you put the letter in the envelope and then you take your pen and do what to the back of the envelope? 888: Write on the back of that. Interviewer: Okay but what is it you write? 888: The name. Interviewer: And? 888: Address. Interviewer: Okay and so do you call that anything I mean the whole process of writing the address on there? I've got to something the letter. 888: Endorse the letter. Interviewer: Okay okay um say a child has learned something surprising and the parent says who was it who what you that? 888: Who was it what? Interviewer: Who was it who mm you that? 888: {C: mumbling} Interviewer: Who who was it who something you that? He came home he-he-he he had uh learned something new. 888: Oh. Who is something. Interviewer: Who was it who? 888: Who-who was it that learned you something new? Interviewer: No. 888: Who was that that learned you something new? Interviewer: Okay okay um if somebody asked if you'd put up that new fence yet you'd say no but I was something to pretty soon. 888: I-I would pretty soon. Interviewer: Okay but uh something that sort of like uh you-you need to uh 888: #1 Oh # Interviewer: #2 Is there # another word that you use for that? 888: I will soon. Interviewer: Okay okay um what do children call somebody who's always running and telling something on the other kids? 888: Tattle-tell. Interviewer: Okay uh would you ever use the word tattle-tell when talking about adults? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh okay if you want to brighten up your room at the your house or something for a party and you have a lot of thing growing in your garden you'd go out and what? 888: Pull them up. Interviewer: What pull what up? 888: The plants. What'd you say- repeat that please? Interviewer: Okay you want to make the house bright.` Because you're having a party. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Colorful and all that. And you have a bunch of colorful stuff growing out in your garden and so you go out and 888: Pull it up. Interviewer: Okay pull what up? 888: You said uh colorful stuff. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay so what colorful stuff am I probably talking about? I'm not talking about fruits or vegetables but I'm talking about 888: Flowers. Interviewer: Okay {NW} Um okay what do you call something that a child might play with? 888: Toy. Interviewer: Anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um have you ever used the word play-pretty? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh if something happened that you expected to happen that you had predicted would happen or maybe that you were afraid was gonna happen? 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: like if for instance if one of the kids hurt himself doing something you told him not to do you'd say well I just what? 888: I just Interviewer: Something that was gonna happen. 888: {X} I just {X} just in time. Interviewer: Okay okay um I might say here's the book you what me for Christmas? 888: You bought me for Christmas. Interviewer: Okay and after you bought it then you? 888: Gave to her. Interviewer: Okay uh I will what it back when I've finished it. 888: I will give it back to you when I've finished it. Interviewer: Okay because you have what me so many other good books? 888: Gave me so many other good books. Interviewer: Okay would you use that in the whole sentence? 888: Because you keep- because you you have given me so many other books. Interviewer: Okay um I might say I sure am glad I carried my umbrella we hadn't gone half a block when it? 888: Rained. Interviewer: Or what to rain? 888: Pour I mean Rained down. Interviewer: When it something to rain. 888: When it something to rain? Interviewer: Mm-hmm we hadn't gone it was sunny when we started out but we hadn't gone half a block when it? 888: Started raining. Interviewer: Okay um You might uh let's see I might say why are you out of breath? And you might say well I just feeling so happy that I what all the way home? 888: Ran all the way home. Interviewer: Okay and horses gallop but people 888: People {X} Interviewer: Well you just ran all the way home. 888: But people Interviewer: Same word. 888: Ran. I mean whatcha say? Interviewer: Horses gallop but people {NS} Not ran but Ru- 888: Run. Interviewer: Okay okay is that-is that what-what you would say? 888: No. {D:I mean} would you repeat that again? Interviewer: Okay horses gallop but people don't gallop they 888: {X} Interviewer: Uh oh okay uh Okay uh you might say gosh I'm late I'm going to have to what in order to get there. 888: On time. Interviewer: On time yeah not not walk but? 888: Run. Interviewer: Okay um you might say they have what a mile everyday this week? 888: Walked a mile. Interviewer: Not walked but? 888: Ran a mile. Interviewer: #1 Okay now # 888: #2 everyday # Interviewer: they have would you say the whole sentence for me? 888: Oh. They ran a mile every week. Interviewer: Okay but there's a have in there. {X} Start and put the have in okay? They have 888: They have ran a mile every day. Interviewer: Okay okay uh one more. Uh if you didn't know where a man was born you might ask where does he what from? 888: Where is he from? Interviewer: Where does he something from? 888: Where does he uh Interviewer: #1 Where does # 888: #2 Born in? # Interviewer: Where does he mm 888: #1 Where do where # Interviewer: #2 from? # 888: do he come from? Interviewer: Okay uh and somebody might say he what in on the train last night? Same word. He what in on the train last-? 888: He came- he came in on the train last night. Interviewer: Okay and he has something to our town every month this year. 888: {X} Interviewer: Has- no just using the same verb. 888: Oh. Interviewer: He has 888: He has uh {NS} came to our town every month. Interviewer: Okay {NS} {X} {X} {X} {X} Okay with your eyes you? 888: see. Interviewer: Okay and uh you might say I what her outside just a few minutes ago? 888: I seen her outside a few minutes ago. Interviewer: Okay and you might say we have what so little of you all this year? 888: We have seen a just a lot of little of you {X} Interviewer: Okay {X} Because I don't like it 888: Oh. Interviewer: To the mic. 888: Oh. Interviewer: Um Oh you might say about some road you might say you can't get in that way the highway department's got the machines in the road's all 888: Blocked off. Interviewer: Okay or what else though? 888: Blocked out. Interviewer: Uh so they've got the road they've taken up the pavement you know just taken it up so they can lay down some more. 888: They got the road closed. Interviewer: Okay uh uh but if they're taking it up the road is all what up? 888: the pavement's all up. Interviewer: Okay uh okay say you got attacked by a dog on your way home {D: and the doctor looks at the injury} He tried to bite you and and he ripped all your clothes up and so all your clothes were what up? 888: Ate up. Interviewer: Okay or another word 888: Bitten up. Bitten up. Interviewer: Okay or they're ripped. What's the other word for ripped? 888: Tore up. Interviewer: Okay alright. Um. {X} If you give somebody a bracelet and she sits there and looks at it you might say why don't you? 888: Put it on. Interviewer: Um. I might say can you mm that? 888: Can you move {X} Interviewer: This is gonna be a short word. 888: #1 Repeat it? # Interviewer: #2 I don't # I'm asking if you're capable of something I'll say can you mm that? 888: Can you do that? Interviewer: Okay. And you might say well my sister yesterday {X} 888: She did it. Interviewer: Okay and then you say sure I have what that all my life. 888: Did it all my- did it all my life. Interviewer: Okay would you use the whole sentence for me? 888: Okay Interviewer: I have 888: I have did it all my life. Interviewer: Okay. Uh I might ask you what you do and you might you might shrug your shoulders and shake your head and say ah? 888: Nothing. Interviewer: And I might say aw come on there must be? 888: Something. Interviewer: Okay eh sometimes you hear an old person say well I never heard of? 888: Such things. Interviewer: Okay um If I ask you how long something's been there you might say well I don't know as far as I know it's? 888: Been there forever. Interviewer: Okay or another word is it's something been there. 888: Something in there. I mean Interviewer: {D: Been there forever hasn't it} 888: It's a {X} It's all dirty. Interviewer: {X} 888: Say it again. Interviewer: Okay I might ask you how long has that been there and you might say well I don't know as far as I know it's? 888: It's been there forever. Interviewer: Okay or it's something been there. Uh not just Oh I know maybe uh Have you ever seen a dog walk kids to school? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Yeah okay well I might ask you if uh uh how often does that dog do that and you might say well he doesn't do it sometimes he? 888: Often do it. Interviewer: Okay but not just sometimes he does it 888: #1 Always do it. He always do it. # Interviewer: #2 everyday s- what? # Okay uh uh I might say how long have you been living here and you might say ever mm I? 888: Ever since. Interviewer: What? 888: Every since. Interviewer: Okay and you might say it wasn't an accident he did it? 888: On purpose. Interviewer: And uh somebody might ask me a question and I might say I don't know you'd better mm him. 888: Ask him. Ask the other person. Interviewer: Okay. So then you went and you? 888: Asked him. Interviewer: Okay and he'd say why you have mm me that? 888: {X} Asked me that. Interviewer: Okay uh you might say those little boys like to? 888: Fight. Interviewer: Okay and every time they met they? 888: Fight. Interviewer: Okay um they don't so much anymore but used to be every time they saw each other they'd? 888: Fight. Interviewer: Okay. Uh 888: {D: fought} Interviewer: {X} Another word for they would fight would be they? 888: Fought. Interviewer: Okay and uh they have what ever since they were small. 888: Fought. Interviewer: Okay and you might say he took a big {NS} took a big knife and she what him with it? 888: Stabbed him with it. Interviewer: Okay um {NS} funny picture's been drawn on the blackboard the teacher might come in and say all right who mm that? 888: Who drew that? Interviewer: Okay and if you were going to lift something like a piece of machinery up on a roof you might use pulley blocks and a rope to what it up? 888: Pull it up. Interviewer: Okay another word for pull? 888: Another word for pull? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Um {NS} jack. Interviewer: Okay um okay would there-now I don't know San Antonio very well so you're going to have to explain to me would you describe for me the major sections of the city and like what the names of them are? 888: Okay. Interviewer: Like in Dallas you've got North Dallas okay that's a big section of the city. But I don't know you know here what it's like. 888: Okay. Well uh they got Alamo Heights and that's another part of the city. Alamo Heights is not it's-it's in San Antonio but it's not the city. Interviewer: Oh 888: It's nearby here but it's not San Antonio it's another you know another city. Interviewer: It's uh 888: Eh Interviewer: It's kinda in the metropolitan area but it's? 888: Yes. It's not you know the city. Interviewer: Who lives there? 888: Well Interviewer: #1 What sort of people? # 888: #2 {X} # White folks. White and colored. I say white and colored. Interviewer: Poor ones or rich ones or? 888: I say rich people because my teacher live over there too. And I got a couple of friends that live over there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: He's not rich but he's average you know. He's average. Interviewer: Okay 888: And they got they got Bexar county. That's that's us right here. Bexar county. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And then they got what's that little? {X} They got Manwood. You heard of Manwood? You know where Manwood at? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: They got Manwood. It's supposed to be San Antonio but some people don't call it San Antonio. It's a different section of you know places where things is going. It's not at like the city limits- it's not out of like the city- city limits of Texas. Interviewer: Who lives there? 888: Well mostly spanish to colored people Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh are they poor # 888: #2 and # Interviewer: or rich or what? 888: I'd say you know average average. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Then uh mostly that's you know like controlled by uh different police like Olmos Park police. They're not controlled by San Antonio police. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: They got different you know fire departments and stuff like that. Interviewer: Yes 888: #1 City hall. # Interviewer: #2 what about school? # Is that different too or? 888: Yeah you know they got Alamo Heights school. The one I was telling you about you know that's out of the city limits but it's close by here. And it's called Alamo Heights. Mostly all white people go there. And it's a pretty big school and it's they pretty you know strict on the rules over there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And that's about all I can tell you about it. Just a section but Interviewer: #1 Okay where do the # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: poorest people live? 888: The poorest people? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: {NW} That's a good question. The poorest people they stay all around in Kenwood where I am right now. Interviewer: Okay. 888: We're not poor but right now we- we still looking for a house see we're moving soon and they building- they're supposed to be building our house well this is not the poor area but I'll tell you where the poor area is. Interviewer: Where is that? 888: That's way back over on west side. {NS} Like the slum. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: This area right here most everybody working here lives in Kenwood right here. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: This is not the poor area. But you know the way things they don't want to bring things up in here you know it could go up you know but they tight on the money now you know the people that help- help some people but but we don't we're moving- see they're building our house but they're taking their time building it see well had they bought our land and our house cuz we had bought the house that we're living in right now. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: See they're building new houses for everybody you know. And right now we're still- they're building it but they haven't finished yet. Interviewer: Yeah mm-hmm yeah okay uh what are the- what are the major um nationalities or I want to say ethnic groups that live in San Antonio? There's blacks and whites and who else? 888: Mexicans. Interviewer: Okay and who-anybody else? 888: Puerto Ricans. Interviewer: Yeah 888: #1 and # Interviewer: #2 do they live in # with the rest of the Mexican community or are they separate? 888: Well I think they live in SORTA like the I say Mexican community because they don't Puerto Ricans you know some of them act like blacks and some of them you know don't because you can't tell them sometimes apart because they almost look like they're black but they're really Puerto Rican. And the Mexicans they live with the they live with different societies like I think Mexicans live with {X} {NS} well I can't say the other names that also live with them. All I know is that a lot of them come from Mexico and taking these jobs in San Antonio. Interviewer: Mm-hmm mm-hmm okay um what do you call uh the-the place in town the central place where all the main offices of the big banks are? 888: The main offices? Interviewer: Yeah all the big banks. 888: All right I'll call I'll tell you the big banks. San Antonio Savings Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And Alamo Bank Interviewer: Yeah. 888: and that's the biggest offices I know of. Interviewer: Where are they? 888: San antonio- it's downtown on the corner of Travis or Travis right across the street from Travis Park. Interviewer: Okay okay where are the biggest uh the oldest and the biggest department stores? Where are they? 888: The oldest and the biggest? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Well I would tell you the biggest department stores is Joske's and out there at the mall You go out there towards the mall and you can go and find anything you want. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: This one place you just start to walking you don't have to you know go on the outside {X} you know just a plain mall. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Is this one out north? 888: Yeah right out go straight out San Pedro. I came out there from the other day. Interviewer: Oh. Where are the oldest stores? You know the original department stores. Where are they? 888: The oldest stores? The department clothing stores? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well oldest that I can think of is Interviewer: The oldest big ones you know. 888: The oldest biggest store. I think the oldest I could say is Temple. Interviewer: Yeah where's that? 888: That's down town on Houston. They've been in business a long time. Interviewer: Yeah okay um are there names for places like like Kenwood and uh over in the west where Spanish speaking people live that an outsider might not recognize? 888: An outsider might not recognize where I live at right now? Interviewer: Yeah I mean like uh you could say Kenwood and I'd know what you're talking about. But is there is there a name for the area that I wouldn't know or somebody you know from out of town wouldn't know? 888: Yes it wouldn't be a name but somebody wouldn't know because the reason I say that because we got names for the whole whole you know the whole section over here. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And other names like Lynwood and I told you about like Lynwood that's a section about like Kenwood. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: But whites you know whites and spanish Mexicans and a few whites stay over there in Lynwood and a couple blacks friends of mine and somebody coming from out of town and they don't know the name and they get it mixed up with Kenwood they {X} Laurelwood. There's another one called Laurelwood. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Laurelwood is back that way. Interviewer: Where south? 888: Going back this way toward Hildebrandt yeah. No that's Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Going towards west. Interviewer: Yeah okay okay who lives there? 888: Who lives there? Interviewer: Yeah laurel- Laurelwood? 888: It's mostly white people live there. That's where rich white people live. Interviewer: White kinda- what kinda white? Middle or rich? 888: Upper class rich people. Interviewer: Mm-kay uh 888: {X} Interviewer: Yeah must be nice. Uh Okay do any of the place like Kenwood and uh the west side and all those have they're own like financial districts where their you know they have their own banks or are those you know mixed in with the white community? 888: Are they mixed in with the white community? Interviewer: Yeah I mean like the banks and the businesses that would be just- just black? 888: Are you trying say it's just black all black? Interviewer: #1 Yeah like # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: a bank owned by all blacks or something like that? 888: No there's no bank in San Antonio by all blacks. Interviewer: Yeah okay well is that all uh Mexicans? Would they own banks? 888: Yes I think so. Interviewer: Would they be in with the like where the bank- white banks are or would they be off 888: #1 Maybe # Interviewer: #2 someplace else? # 888: They wouldn't be all they wouldn't be all they wouldn't own nothing but they'd be all together {X} in on with the white people. by working there. #1 Black people work # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: together with white people because they don't own the bank but they work for it. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I see- I know a lot of people who work for it but black people work for the bank but they don't own it. Interviewer: Yeah. So all the banks are you know in one place? 888: Well they not in one place down in San Antonio they're all over town. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: They got the San Antonio Savings down there. That's where I keep my money at. And they got Northeast Savings and then they got Merchant Bank down there at the mall out there. {X} Then they got the new bank they built Alamo Bank. Then they got another san antonio savings over there on commerce. Interviewer: They do okay. 888: There's a lot of banks. They got {X} {NS} Interviewer: Something else I want to ask you um in san antonio do rich blacks and poor blacks live in the same neighborhood or do rich blacks live where white I mean huh where rich whites would live? And poor blacks live where poor whites would live. Or do all the blacks live together and all the whites live together? 888: That's- that's a tough question. Interviewer: {NW} 888: Well uh all I can say that the white people right now we used to live around a lot of white people up in remember when I told you that we lived in Linwood. And then we moved and we stay up there with white people. And mostly white people's off to theyself. And {NS} the black and the spanish sometimes together but it's all mixed up I mean you know in this area but mostly whites towards going towards San Pedro they off to theyself. And the blacks some of the blacks is off to theyself. So the spanish people is off to theyself. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: So are Puerto Ricans and or any groups. Interviewer: Okay 888: But they all mixed in different neighborhoods because they most people come from Mexico here. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Taking over these you know jobs taking ours. Interviewer: Uh the ones who live together are they mostly poor or are they middle or are they rich? 888: Most most of them that live together? Interviewer: Yeah that- that I mean are mixed in with like the whites. 888: Oh they rich. They got money. All blacks I'm not trying to say all blacks is poor Interviewer: #1 No. # 888: #2 Some # blacks is rich. Interviewer: Yeah yeah but I mean like is there if you get a neighborhood where where they're all mixed up would you say they're the same economic bracket or do you think that varies? 888: They're they same bracket. Interviewer: Yeah okay. 888: Not some people but. Interviewer: Mm 888: Yeah same bracket. Go ahead. Interviewer: Okay so would that mainly be you know for the ones that are mixed in together would that mainly be uh more wealthy or or not very wealthy or middle? 888: Not very wealthy because if they was wealthy they wouldn't just move into any kind of neighborhood. Interviewer: they what I can't hear you. 888: They wouldn't move in right in the inner ci- you know any kind of neighborhood without they had good money they would move somewhere that they wanted to be ag- with their own people. Interviewer: Oh if they have enough money they're going to be segregated. Is that what you're saying? 888: Well see mostly people that move in with different groups of the races I mean they they don't have to move but they have to move you know Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Because of the money. You know if they didn't have they had enough money to get a place a real nice place they move off where they own people live. It wouldn't be no problem. Interviewer: Okay yeah that's what I was trying to find out but I get it. Okay it's interesting how these things work out in different cities because you know they're different in different cities. Um okay where do the probably the richest people in town live? 888: The richest people? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I'm going to tell you where the richest people live in San Antonio It's in Terrell Hills. Interviewer: What what? 888: Terrell Hills Interviewer: yeah? 888: And Pecan Valley. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: {NW} {X} Interviewer: Which which direction is that from here? 888: Terrell Hills? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: It's going st- straight out. Interviewer: North? 888: Yeah going straight out it's it's going way you you going to take, say you take the San Pedro all the way out Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And then you should run into Terrell Hills if you keep straight. Interviewer: Before you hit route four ten or after? 888: After. It's way it's kinda out. Interviewer: #1 North of the {X} # 888: #2 In the Pecan Valley # You know where the Pecan Valley is don't you? Interviewer: Huh-uh. 888: It's back out that way. Interviewer: South? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Where- where is it I mean? Is it between here and downtown or? 888: Well it's past downtown. And it's going t- no I said I said Terrell Hills is going toward the east. Interviewer: Okay. 888: It's a big community. Now we right now we could move way out but we don't want to move way out because it's all the jobs is located in this area right here see you move somewhere out and you got to come way back over her you know taking a bus or driving you know you'd be saving a lot of money if you could just stay in the section that you can work and get a good job. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Because most of it- this is right now this is where the jobs at on the north side of town. Interviewer: Is that right? 888: Like I work at Trinity University. It's a Trinity University. It's right over there. I can walk over there to work if I want to. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Cuz it's close by my house. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: Now if I was living over on the other side of town I would have to take the bus or ride my cycle. Which I be burning a lot of gas. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: So that's why right now we trying to- we having a house built but you know this development agency they take their time about doing it. Because they doing a lot of people like that. See they building Kenwood up. I wouldn't say it's poor but they building it up. You ha- you haven't seen the new some of the new houses they build out here have you? Interviewer: I don't think so. 888: No you- right here this part is the Spanish Mexican group round this part right here. Black part is over that way. Over there on Main. Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah. # 888: #2 Over there towards Main. # Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: This is the Spanish the Spanish Kenwood part. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay let's see um Okay what are some-some of the um what are some of the landmarks around here or well-known places that tourists come to see? 888: Landmarks? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well uh the Alamo. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Is that what you #1 talking about? # Interviewer: #2 Yeah but kind of the # 888: Okay the Alamo the HemisFair HemisFair Tower uh {X} Interviewer: {X} What was that you named after the alamo? 888: Oh the Alamo. You know where the alamo is down on alamo Interviewer: Yeah. 888: street? They come to see that because that's one of the things that some people have never seen before. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And then they go over to the HemisFair tower to see the HemisFair tower because they've never been way up high. Because they don't see too many tall buildings like that Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Yeah Other thing is they come to see how San Antonio is really built. Interviewer: Yeah. What about parks? What all kind of 888: #1 Yeah they come to brackenridge park because # Interviewer: #2 parks are there? # 888: Brackenridge Park is about I wouldn't say the largest park in San Antonio but I just that's the only park that I know that people will go to more often because of its everything is mostly happening at Brackenridge Park. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh. 888: Yeah and now they come to it to the zoo. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Course the only people in Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: You know Interviewer: #1 Do you know any other names # 888: #2 out of state. # Interviewer: for Brackenridge Park? Do you call it anything else? 888: Anything else besides Brackenridge Park? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: No just Brackenridge Park. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: And the Brackenridge Zoo. Interviewer: What else is there? Any other parks? 888: Yeah they got Comanche Park they got Interviewer: What park? 888: Comanche Park Interviewer: Where's that? 888: Comanche park is way out there. Towards actually you got have {X} way out there towards W- W- White Road. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And they got Olmos Park which people can't go to Olmos Park right now because they running the express way through here going to Olmos Street. You know where Olmos Street at don't you? Interviewer: uh-uh. 888: It's over there by my you know where that church at over there on {X} Interviewer: Huh-uh. Which church now? 888: {X} church. You see Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah # 888: #2 {X} # Right that street run right there they going straight up one across the ri- like they're going to cross the river. They building an express way all the way through. Interviewer: Oh 888: Going across the stadium. Interviewer: Yeah 888: #1 Here the other people come # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # 888: And you know they they really can't help right now the parks they they tore the old park up on the Cuz they running the express way through there. And they got another park called Lakeview yeah Lakeview Park Lakeview. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh. 888: And that's all I can tell you. Interviewer: Do any of these parks have other names? Other than you know just the name of the park? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um if you were uh flying home from new york where would your plane land? 888: Flying home from New York? Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} 888: On the airport. Interviewer: Okay okay what's the name of the airport? Do you know? 888: Might be Kennedy Airport. I'm not sure. Interviewer: Okay okay that'd be in new york. What's the airport here? 888: Oh the airport here? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I couldn't- I know I- I know where the airport is but I don't know the name of it but I never ride the plane cuz I don't want to get on one. Interviewer: Yeah {NW} 888: It's right over there but I don't know the name of it. Interviewer: Okay okay what would you call it if you were just talking to somebody about it? 888: I call it the northside airport. Interviewer: Okay okay um if you were uh if you were driving in from like yeah okay say houston what highway or what road would you come in on? 888: Coming from Houston? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well I would probably take the Seguini road and think it's {D:I H ten} something like that. Interviewer: What? 888: Not I-H ten no. Highway ninety. Interviewer: What's the difference when you said I's on one of them and highway on the other one? What's the difference there? 888: What's the difference from I-H ten or something like that? Interviewer: Yeah. What's the difference between I-H and highway? 888: Highway? Well I guess it's a different interstate {X} that's a different intersection between the highway. Interviewer: What? 888: Different be- section between the highways. Interviewer: Oh I see okay. 888: {X} We was coming in last night I think it was highway nine we came in and then we hit some kind of little then we hit randolph road. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And then we came over here. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay. 888: Next thing I know. Interviewer: Okay um if you stop um along the interstate i h 10 or whatever he stops. Uh what would you call a place where you stop? And it just had like uh old picnic tables and garbage cans and stuff like that and that's all it had. What would you call that place? 888: Rest area. Interviewer: Okay. What if they had um you know a rest room and oh water fountains and more stuff. What would you call it then? Same thing or no? 888: {X} Rest area is is what would I call it? I'd just say rest area. Interviewer: Okay what if it was uh what if it had restaurants? You know a place to eat and filling stations? Then what would you call it? 888: I'd call it Interviewer: Same thing or? 888: Snack bar. Interviewer: Okay okay um Oh what do you call that thing that's painted on the road to help you stay in your own lane? 888: What do you call it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: The line ones or the stripes? Interviewer: Just-just-just the painted things. 888: Strips. Splits the side roads strips. Interviewer: Okay okay what do you call the round things? 888: I call them dots. Interviewer: What? 888: Dots. I call them dots. Interviewer: How do you spell it? 888: D-O-T-R dots I guess. Dot Interviewer: Okay. 888: D-O something like that. I don't know how you Interviewer: Are these things arranged in a line? 888: Yeah in in a line. I don't know what y'all call them but that's what I call them. Interviewer: I don't guess I ever called them anything. 888: I don't really call them that neither but I just give them a name. That's what everybody else you know they don't really use it. They don't ask- never asks me what you call them Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: They look like dots to me because they round and in the street they look like dots. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Some call them dots some call them dots Interviewer: Uh-huh okay I get it I guess I never talked about them much at all. Um let's see what would you call the thing that goes down the middle of the road that's like usually you got it on a bigger highway you know it's got a concrete thing that goes up and then sometimes there's a steel fence on top of that you know well a little fence about like that- steel railing. What would you call something like that? 888: What would I call it? I would call it nothing. I don't know a name for it. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Unless it's no I don't have a name for that. Interviewer: Okay okay um Okay if you were on highway ten or something like that what do you call that place where you get on? You know it comes in an angle? 888: The intersection. Interviewer: Well no I think of an intersection to me is something that is square you know. But these- you know call it an intersection anyway these things come in like this and these things come in an angle and you don't have to stop necessarily to get on. Now you- you might I mean you know I want to make sure we're talking about the same thing. 888: Are you trying to say that when another road meets with each other you don't have to stop? Interviewer: Well you know how highway ten will be going on like this and on each side of it there's another little road? 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Like it's just one way each way. 888: One way. Interviewer: Yeah and and then uh you get up on highway ten just by going up there's a yield sign but there's no stop sign or anything like that and you can just kind if there's nobody coming you don't have to stop or anything you can just go on up. 888: I would just say I'd just say drive on and that. Interviewer: Okay alright do you- do you have a name for the place you get off of an interstate? 888: The name of the place. Interviewer: Yeah you know these places it's kinda like the place where you get on except that I think the oncoming traffic has to yield to you. 888: Oh yeah. The oncoming traffic yields to you like you're getting off. And when you're getting off {X} the high- express way whatever {X} I mean you know You've got to give them the right of way let them know that you're getting off. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay let's see um {NS} Okay what all um what all different names do you have for things that are streets? I mean why do you call one kinda thing a highway and you might call this a street 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What other names like that do you have? Do you know? 888: Uh avenue Interviewer: #1 What? # 888: #2 street # I get what you mean and I call it some of them's alleys. Interviewer: What's an alley? 888: An alley is a place where you can it's not a large road it's still small and it's mostly a place where you gotta be careful in because you don't know what's going to come out. You don't because there's no stop signs that don't mean you don't stop you have to stop and you gotta be careful about people walking in the alley because some people try to take a short cut through the alley. Interviewer: Uh-huh. #1 Does an alley # 888: #2 (X) # Interviewer: go like behind houses or behind buildings or between? 888: Behi- behind them between them everything. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay okay what else is there? 888: Roads. Interviewer: Okay yeah. 888: Well the roads well they got dirt roads. {NS} and then they got that's the only kind of roads that I can tell you. Interviewer: Okay okay um {NS} okay and just a street like this what would you call it a street or would you call it a road or? 888: I just call it a street. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 Or a road # Interviewer: Okay um {X} over here on like over here on san pedro there's uh a place where the road goes down I think goes under some railroad tracks 888: Oh you talking Interviewer: #1 What would you call that place? # 888: #2 {X} # That's a underpass. Interviewer: Okay. Okay uh {NS} Um let's see what else do we have? If a car was parked right here but parked this way with the curve? 888: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What do you call that kind of parking? 888: Parallel park. Interviewer: Okay what if the car was parked well like I am over there like kinda you know on the other side of the building where I kinda hid at the end of the parking place? What do you call that kind of parking? {NS} 888: Just regular park. Interviewer: Okay okay um What do you call those things where the fire department hooks up the hose when it has to put out a fire? 888: What do you call them? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I call them fire faucets. Interviewer: What? 888: Fire faucets. Interviewer: Okay okay uh if you were going to go down town and park where would you park if you couldn't find a parking place on the street? 888: If I would go down and I couldn't find one? Interviewer: Yeah if you couldn't find just along the street you know at a meter where would you park? 888: Probably a parking lot. Interviewer: Okay um can you describe a parking lot for me? 888: A parking lot is a place where you can put cars in and different other things like you- other size cars you can put trucks and other type of vehicles as long as you know you pay for your park. Interviewer: Okay is it just open? 888: It's open. It's all you just drive right in. Interviewer: Okay okay um downtown San Antonio do they have um whole buildings or private buildings where you where you drive in and maybe park it yourself and maybe somebody takes the car and goes and 888: #1 Yes they do. # Interviewer: #2 parks it for you? # 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 What do you call them? # 888: Well they- I call it park and drive I guess. Interviewer: A what? 888: Driver. Some people you call it a park and drive. So then you then you park the car and then drive it. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 And then they # you know they'll tell you they'll take it from there. You go and they park and drive it. Interviewer: Mm-kay okay say I saw a sign the other day I want to see if you know about this It said park and ride. What is that? What does it mean? 888: Park and ride? Interviewer: #1 Yeah it was just a little sign # 888: #2 Oh # Interviewer: it said park and ride. 888: Well it means that you park your car and you can take the bus and for what you can take. Just park your car and ride the bus. Interviewer: Oh yeah like downtown or 888: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 something? # And the bus will bring you back out to the same parking 888: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 lot. # 888: It's cuz you going somewhere and you don't have a parking space so you can ride the bus and save gas and different thing. Interviewer: That sounds like it'd be a good deal. 888: {X} That's why they got all the buses at the p- park and drive. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Park and ride. Did you say park and ride? Interviewer: Yeah I think that's what I said. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Is that what it's supposed to say? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Or do they- is it park and drive? 888: Uh park and drive I'm talking about's- park and ride I'm ta- yeah park and ride was right. Interviewer: Okay okay uh let's see what are the- other than the uh hemisfair tower what are the other tallest buildings in town? 888: Tallest buildings? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Besides the Hemisfair Tower? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: This place called not the Alamo I forgot the that's the Alamo down there that's going in to town on East Houston Street. and I think that's the second tallest building downtown in San Antonio. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And they got Bexar county jail It's pretty tall. Interviewer: Jail? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: The jail's tall? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Huh 888: You've never seen have you seen Bexar county jail? Interviewer: Well I may have and just didn't know what it was you know. 888: It's a pretty tall building they got a lot of people down there. Interviewer: Gosh 888: It's pretty tall. That's and I say that Bexar county I take that back yeah I say the sa- that little that building down on cotton down there called Alamo is the biggest and the third one coming is the jail house- Bexar county jailhouse San Antonio. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: That's about the tallest buildings I can think of in San Antonio right now downtown. Interviewer: Do you have one name that would cover all those tall tall buildings? 888: The Empires. Interviewer: What? 888: The Empires. One name. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 Empires. # Interviewer: Okay anything else that you might call them? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. Uh where do you think they got that name? The Empires? Is that what you called them? 888: Well I- I gave them that name. Interviewer: Uh-huh why is that? 888: Reason I say that name is because they look like empire building which is t- what I mean is towers because I would say I would say that they look like towers but they ain't built like towers they built like towers. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 But # they not you know look like a tower's real small you know and they look like a jail. {X} I just say empire buildings. cuz they big. You understand? {NS} Interviewer: No {X} 888: Oh. Interviewer: {NW} 888: {NW} Well I what I mean is about the empire buildings like big building that pretty big like if you can go on top of the empire building {C: child yelling} and you can see how far it is from down up on top of the building and you can see up. Interviewer: Okay. Um what would you call a real tall apartment building? What would you call that? 888: A building. Interviewer: #1 What? # 888: #2 The Hilton. # Interviewer: Okay if you didn't call it a specific name like that you know just a {X} in general for a real tall apartment building what would you call it? 888: I call it {C: I can only assume this is the mother of the yelling child} uh tower apartments I guess. Interviewer: Okay. {X} what do you call an area in the city where some buildings had been torn down? And {C: And now there are more children} and they hadn't replaced them yet? {NS} 888: The building's been torn down? Interviewer: Yeah. And they hadn't put anything back on there. {NS} 888: I call it a parking lot cuz when they knock a building down that's being built on they call it a parking lot. Interviewer: {X} What about a smaller area like right around here {X} what would you call an area like that? Like around here uh But it just wasn't a house on it? Kids like may play baseball out there or something 888: Vacant lot Interviewer: What? 888: The vacant lot. Interviewer: Okay okay uh what would you call the thing where you get a drink of water in public place? 888: A water fountain. Interviewer: Okay uh what would you call if it was in a park? The same thing? 888: Water fountain. Interviewer: Okay um what are some different kinds of cars and trucks? Other than brand names you know like Chevrolet and ford and like that but like just what are some different kinds? 888: Different kinds? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Brand names? Interviewer: Not brand names. 888: Not brand names what's the different kinds? Well they got the kind of trucks that you got They got the camp on them. They got El Caminos and they call them trucks. You know El Camino? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: They look like cars but they're trucks. Interviewer: What kind of car- what kind of truck carries a camper? 888: What kinds of truck carries a camper? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: It's any size I mean about a ten about a ten ton truck. Interviewer: {X} 888: Ten ton uh Interviewer: What? 888: about a ten ton truck. Interviewer: Okay what kind of truck is that I mean what would you call it? 888: What would I call it I just say a regular truck. Interviewer: Okay okay um all right what are some other kinds? 888: Uh Small trucks El Caminos They carry campers. Interviewer: What? 888: El Caminos. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: They carry campers too. Interviewer: Okay what about cars? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh let me think. What do you call that kind of truck that like delivers flowers you know? That has a closed bed? 888: Delivers flowers? Interviewer: Yeah like it some sort of delivery truck you know that has has a has sort of a closed bed where they can put flowers or whatever back in there. You know some sort of delivery truck. {X} 888: I call it I call it uh storeroom. Interviewer: Mm okay um let's see what do you call the kind of car that has got two regular bench type seats you know like my car does but then back behind it it's got a lot of room where you can put suitcases or maybe a whole scout troop full of kids or? 888: What kind of car would I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Station wagon. Interviewer: Okay um say what do you call a kind of small truck that most farmers might have? With an open bed and you know they drive them in from farms you know with feed sacks on the back? 888: Uh T-model trucks. T-model {X} Interviewer: What do you call little bitty fast cars? 888: Little bitty fast car? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I'd say Sting Ray. Interviewer: Okay do you have another more general sort of name for something like that? 888: Fast car. Hot rod. Interviewer: Okay okay um is a hot rod a new car old car or? {NS} 888: Well you it's old and new. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Because you can make an old car out of make an old car run as good as a new car. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And you if you get a new car and if it's a hot rod it's a hot rod. Interviewer: What do you use a hot rod for? 888: Racing. Interviewer: On the streets? 888: Not on the not on the s- well they do it on the streets but you know you get caught if you you know they usually they go to the Alamo dragway. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 I don't know # Interviewer: Where's that? 888: That's going towards road T Interviewer: Okay okay um mm Okay uh what's the difference between a sedan and a coop? You know? 888: Sedan and a coop? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Uh well I'd say a sedan is bigger than a what you say? A coop? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I think a sedan is bigger than a coop because it's got more room. Interviewer: Okay. 888: And a coop. It don't have too much room. Interviewer: Okay um {NW} does a coop just have on seat or does it have a front and a back seat or can it have either or? 888: Um It can ha- they got a front and a back no it just got a front and a back seat. Interviewer: Okay okay um what would you call big car like a Cadillac or something? What would you call that sort of a show off king of car? 888: I'd say luxury car. Interviewer: Okay um.. If you went to the airport from a motel say you didn't car you didn't take your own car you know. 888: Mm-hmm Interviewer: uh and you didn't take a cab sometimes those motels have a big car that will take you to the airport. Do you know what they're called? 888: Taxi. Interviewer: Okay okay uh okay and the park and ride thing you take a what is it you take down town? 888: You take your car and then you oh park and ride? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Oh park Interviewer: You take your car and park it and then what? 888: Dr- uh ride park and ride I guess. You take the bus you park uh see if you're going down town Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: You wanna leave your car and you want to go somewhere else you take the bus so you park in th- you park and ride. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay On the the car um what do you call that thing up front where the odometer is and all that other stuff 888: {NS} What do I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: What you mean? Interviewer: Uh you know it's got the oh okay it's got the odometer and it's got oh I don't know sometimes there's a clock up there. There's a whole kind of panel that runs across right under the windshield and it's got a bunch of dials and stuff on it 888: What do I call that? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I just say the operating buttons. Interviewer: Okay okay um on this panel over to the right usually there's a little place where you can keep I don't know matches or a flashlight or something like that. 888: {X} Interviewer: What? 888: Glove department. Interviewer: Okay uh what might you wrap around several maps to keep them together or something. A stretchy thing. 888: Something might I wrap around them? Interviewer: Yeah. I just lost mine. I keep one on my {X} and I lost it. 888: A rubber band. Interviewer: Okay {NS} Um okay you just had uh a few sheets of information to keep together um you might put a little metal thing kinda at the top here. What would you call that? 888: A cliff. Interviewer: Okay. Any particular kind of clip? 888: Paper clip. Interviewer: Okay a what? 888: Paper clip. Interviewer: Okay uh let's see. Where do you keep the spare tire at in a car? 888: In the back trunk. Interviewer: Okay and what do you call it the thing that you push down to make it go faster? 888: What do I call it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I just say What you mean? Interviewer: Uh like you're driving along and #1 you have to speed up to get around somebody # 888: #2 Oh # Shift. Interviewer: Uh and you press down harder with your foot on the 888: The gas. Interviewer: Okay 888: Gas pedal. Interviewer: On the what? 888: Gas pedal. Interviewer: Okay um okay what is the shift anyway? 888: Well we- you was talking about I was gonna talk about standing shift. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: It's a shift that you have when you gotta step on the standard pedal I mean the clutch and then when you step on the clutch you pu- you know shift to gear {D:when it's in the floor} Shift the gear to the floor because that's {X} to make the car go and give it gas. Interviewer: Yeah okay okay um Is the is the gear shift ever any place besides on the floor? 888: Is it anywhere else? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: No. Yes yes. They got 'em in the steering wheel. I forgot which car that thing on. Mm It was first taken off drive stick and then the standard. Interviewer: Okay are there different kinds of sticks I mean different names for different kinds of them? 888: Automatic and Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Standard. Interviewer: Okay. Um a lot of times you'll be driving along {X} a long thing that goes all the way across the road like you know and it's about this high and it's put in the road it's a piece of asphalt you know. It's kinda a bar shaped thing to make you slow down. 888: Oh speed bump. Interviewer: Okay um okay what all kinds of cars and trucks and stuff do the uh does the fire department have? 888: They got fire trucks. They got um fire trucks. What kind of stuff they got or what? Interviewer: Yeah what different kinds of trucks and all? 888: All I know is the fire truck and the medic truck Interviewer: And the what? 888: The medic truck. The medic Interviewer: What does it do? 888: It helps people when they in trouble like they need help before the firemen get there. Interviewer: Oh yeah the medic truck. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay uh is it- how is it different from an ambulance? 888: How is it different from an ambulance? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well I wouldn't say it's not different because only thing they got extra they got experience they know what to do too. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: The ambulance they just get there fast and they have the experience how to do an treat people. Interviewer: Uh-huh uh-huh but the medic truck is sort of the same thing. 888: Yes. Basically the same type of thing. Interviewer: Okay is it smaller or bigger? Than the ambulance? 888: I say bigger. Interviewer: Okay okay uh what do you call a kinda truck that pumps the water for the for the other trucks? Do you have a name for it? 888: Pump the water? Interviewer: Uh-huh pumps it you know. 888: Oh Water trucks I guess. That's all #1 I know. # Interviewer: #2 Okay um # there's one kind of truck that has a big long ladder on it do you have a name for that kind of truck? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh there's another kind of truck that has uh a big long hose and it has a big arm kinda thing. I mean it's huge. And a bucket in the end of the arm where people stand and the fire I mean the electric department also uses them you know like to repair wires and the phone company uses them to repair telephone poles. Do you have a name for that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay um If the fire chief came to the fire all by himself uh what would he drive over in? 888: Would he drive over in? Interviewer: Uh-huh. He came by himself. 888: Oh he would drive in the fire department car. Interviewer: Okay okay um what do you call a police car? 888: What do I call it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Police car. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 888: No I haven't heard nothing else so Interviewer: Okay uh what do you call the thing like if you do something like say there's a riot and they pick up ten people and they can get oh six to ten of them in the back of this thing? 888: Oh paddy wagon. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Yeah.. Interviewer: Take them to jail in it. 888: Right on taking him to jail. Interviewer: Okay um what do you call the uh kinda thing that flies around and um instead of having you know a fixed wing like this you know it's got a little deal that's goes around? 888: Oh you're talking about a helicopter. Interviewer: Yeah. {NW} Do the police have one here? 888: Yeah they got po- yeah they got helicopters here. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: They gonna have to have everything in San Antonio they can get out. Take them back over to Mexico they get they get up here. Interviewer: Is that right? Okay uh y'all ever had any really um well actually before I ask you that I want to ask you something else What do you call the the main police place? The place where police officers are? 888: The main place where they at? Interviewer: Yeah 888: We- do I have to- you mean do you mean in a place where they go and all when their on duty? Interviewer: When they're on duty? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah uh-huh. 888: I call it the pig stand. They always hang out at the pig stand. They're always there. I don't know why but Interviewer: Okay. Now- now is the pig stand um is the pig stand a place to eat? 888: Yeah that's where all the pigs feed at. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 888: #2 {X} # That's the name of it. It's right down there on the corner of {X} They always have police cars all around that place. Interviewer: And it's really called the pig stand? 888: #1 Yes like pig P-I-G # Interviewer: #2 Like the sign is # 888: And then S-T-A-N-D Interviewer: {X} But it really has a sign out? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: That says 888: Pig stand Interviewer: Okay now when they report to work in the morning you know and when they sign in or whatever they do 888: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Where do they go? 888: They go back down to the police department and punch in. Interviewer: Okay okay um What do you call the place that houses fire trucks and where firemen sit around and wait for the fire? 888: The fire department. They just sit around and wait for a fire. Interviewer: Okay. Uh Okay what other words are there for policemen? 888: What other words for them? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Pigs Fingers Interviewer: What was the second one? 888: Fingers. Interviewer: Fingers? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: I don't understand {X} What is that? 888: What you mean? Interviewer: What is fingers? What does that mean? 888: Oh that's some name they just call them. That's all I know. Interviewer: That's neat. I never heard that. 888: And uh Squilos Interviewer: What? 888: Fuzz Squilos the fuzz. The heat. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: And that's all I can think of that you can call them. You can call them a lot of names but I don't want to say it on tape right now. Interviewer: {NW} What about the fire department? Do you have any other names for the fire department? 888: I just say fire fighters. Fire put them out I guess. Interviewer: Okay 888: I don't know. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Let's see {NS} Interviewer: okay uh Auxiliary: {X} {NS} {X} Interviewer: How have the bad storms do y'all have done here? {X} 888: Let me see bad storms we have uh Auxiliary: {X} 888: tornado storms and thunderstorms and other types of storms such as Auxiliary: {X} 888: winter storms. Auxiliary: {X} 888: Fall weather storms, things like that. Interviewer: What's a tornado? 888: What's a torna- tornado storm? Interviewer: Yes. 888: Now tornado storm is something that knocks things {D: a loose} wind is real strong well We never had none around here lately because it didn't come in closer we never had a really bad storm here. Interviewer: Uh-huh, uh-huh. 888: And you take other places they get their house tore up and things. Interviewer: okay have you ever seen one? 888: Have I ever seen one? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Ah yes I seen one before. Interviewer: {NW} It's exciting isn't it? 888: {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 not # Interviewer: yeah. 888: It's scary {X} but you know when I was in Snellville wind was blowing I thought we was going, you know our house was going to blow away. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Cause we was living let's see over there on Miller over here and wind was getting strong. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Was blowing a little hit the windows look like they was going to blow the windows out or something like that but it feels it's really sometimes frightening when you're real small. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 Because # you think something's going to happen and you're going to have to grab hold to a tree. #1 everybody's leaving # Interviewer: #2 yeah # Um what do you call those things that that come in at the gulf you know and they come in and across Galveston and Houston and Galveston periodically gets torn up by one and it causes a lot of rain and stuff up here but um 888: Twister. What you mean? Interviewer: Uh it's a big storm you know it's huge like it has a name you know just Carla or something like that. 888: Oh a name. Interviewer: Yeah it's usually a girl's name and and uh I think Carla was the one that was I can't remember if it was {X} or where but #1 it tore up so bad a few years ago # 888: #2 Yeah I know # I heard about that I don't know where it was at but I heard about one like that called, I think called they did give a name for it that's for sure. Interviewer: Yeah yeah. #1 Okay. # 888: #2 I don't know what that # called what Interviewer: um what do you call the kind of storm where um {NS} I mean do you have a name for this kind of storm, you know it rains and then as soon as it hits the ground the stuff freezes? 888: Uh icicle? Interviewer: What? 888: Icicles. Interviewer: Okay do you have a name for that kind of storm? 888: Oh I just say hail. Well a hail and icicles I, I wouldn't say they're the same thing but something hit the ground and it freezes well I'd call them hail. Interviewer: Yeah, yeah. Well what if it what if it's um what if it's rain you know on the way down it doesn't freeze until after it hits the ground. 888: And do I got a word name for it? Interviewer: yeah. 888: When it freezes on the ground? Interviewer: {NW} 888: I call it just be- below, below weather I guess. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 Cold. # 888: #1 Just freezing. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # um Oh yeah something I forgot, if a person gets arrested for being drunk, where would they take him? 888: Where would they take him to the police department. Interviewer: Okay. Well if uh somebody gets arrested for robbing a ban would they put, put you in the same place or would it be a different place? 888: Same place. Interviewer: Okay. uh okay what does the policeman carry for protection? 888: Thirty eight special. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: That's pretty specific. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: uh what other what other kinds of uh handguns are there do you do you know? 888: Twenty two caliber, midnight special Interviewer: Yeah what's a midnight special? 888: Midnight special is the gun that pretty big gun the reason I know about it is because this dude used to have one he used to take it everywhere he go. Interviewer: Oh really? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Did he have ammunition for it? 888: Yeah he did have ammunition and Auxiliary: {X} 888: but he didn't use it on nobody he just had it for protection Interviewer: Yeah. 888: We're using where when we went out of time Friday this {NW} this friend of mine he took his 22 Interviewer: Yeah. 888: because you know we don't know what we're going to run up against. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: We ain't going up there looking for no trouble. Interviewer: {NW} 888: But he takes his twenty-two. Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: What is that? Is it a revolver or what? 888: Revolver. Interviewer: Yeah. okay if it's not a revolver what is it? What do you call it? 888: It's not a revolver it's not a gun. Interviewer: Mm-kay, mm-kay. uh let me see um what do you call that stick or club or whatever the the policeman carries? 888: Billy club. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. But anything else anything other #1 other kind of # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: thing like this that he might carry? 888: a jack. Interviewer: What 888: #1 a jack # Interviewer: #2 What's the # 888: huh Interviewer: What's the difference? 888: What's the difference? Interviewer: {NW} 888: It's the same name but they just got different names for it. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. 888: Same thing. Interviewer: Okay. uh Okay. um What would you call somebody who was oh drunk all the time and and couldn't hold a job and you know just sort of doing a good for nothing. 888: #1 couldn't # Interviewer: #2 um # 888: hold a job? Interviewer: couldn't hold a job yeah cause he because he's drunk all the time what would 888: #1 D-W # Interviewer: #2 you call # 888: I'd call him a D-W-I. #1 Intoxicated. # Interviewer: #2 what's that stand for # 888: Well I don't I don't know if he you say if he was drinking all the time I wouldn't put I'd just say intoxicated. Interviewer: Okay, okay. would you have a name for that kind of person? 888: Would I have a name a name for it? Interviewer: Yeah like sit around all the time and drinks and doesn't do anything else 888: I'd say whiner or a bum. Interviewer: Okay, okay. What about a kind of person who drinks too much really 888: oh, you talk, you I'm not trying to say the people that sits around and drinks cause I drink myself. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And I'm you know you can take a few drinks sometimes but don't overdo it just hold your limit. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Where you don't get all drunk. Interviewer: Okay now I'm talking about the kind of guy who really's just drunk #1 most of the time # 888: #2 oh # Well I'd just say that he's just a {D: whiner}. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. um Okay now there's this another kind of person who who also drinks too much #1 here he doesn't always limit # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: but he manages to hold a job and you know to stay with his family and stuff like that. {NW} You have another name for that kind of person? 888: That that holds his job? Interviewer: Yeah. But still he's sort of on the edge. You know I mean he #1 he's sort of # 888: #2 well # Interviewer: drunk most of the time anyway. 888: I just say he's getting into it he's getting into it little by little. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um Okay, what do you call a kind of cheap hotel that that caters to people like the kind of guy who can't hold his job because he's drunk all the time? 888: Rehabilitation. Interviewer: Okay. Okay um what is that? Could you explain to me? 888: Well it's a place that when you're {D: too tired to} break the habit and you think you can't quit and you want help. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: That's the place to go. {NS} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 888: and place where you can that you want help and you go down to the uh you know rehabilitation place and they help you out try to break your habit they'll put you on different stuff and see that you know make you take different medicine and stuff like that. #1 to break # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 888: your habit. that's if you want to you can always get of it if you want to. Some people claim they can't get off of it but you I I don't know but I say you want to break up something you can break it. Quit the habit or kick the habit or one. If you don't kick the habit you're going to kick the bucket. Interviewer: {NW} #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: That's good. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. um Okay there's some kind of hotel you don't really do anything to these people you know they don't try to help him or anything they just just give him a place to stay and that's it. 888: {NW} Interviewer: You know I mean it's barely do that just give him a bed and 888: #1 oh # Interviewer: #2 like # you know I don't know cost fifty cents a night or something like that #1 you have a # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: name for a place like that? They always do a ratty rundown looking place. 888: I'd call it the ghetto. {NW} Interviewer: Okay. Okay. 888: They fifty cents a night. {NW} Interviewer: to what? 888: I said these the place called {NW} charge fifty cents a night. It must be Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. Okay um Do you have some other names for a prostitute? 888: Do I know some other names for them? Interviewer: {NW} 888: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 888: {NW} Why did you ask me that? Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Because it's on here. 888: um I just say Interviewer: Nobody will ever know that you said it. {D: The recording is confidential.} 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 888: I just say H-O-S. {NW} Interviewer: Okay. do you um {NS} Do you really when you say that do you say H-O or do you say the whole you say 888: I say the word but Interviewer: Why, why don't you go ahead and say it so they can hear how you say it? 888: I just say hoes. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Are there any other names for it? 888: {NW} B-H. Interviewer: What? 888: B-H-S. Interviewer: oh go ahead and say it. 888: Bitches. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # {NW} 888: I Interviewer: um Okay what do you call a building where some of them might work? You know like a a bunch of them might work there. 888: What what would I call a building? Interviewer: {NW} 888: The whorehouse. Interviewer: Okay. um sometimes there's a a-a-a woman who who runs the house 888: Yeah. Interviewer: You know um sort of in charge? What do you call her? 888: What do I call her? Interviewer: {NW} 888: Same thing I just call the rest of them. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And this is under the man. Who goes out like on the street and solicits and gets people for these women. Uh what would you call him? 888: The pimp. Interviewer: Okay. #1 anything other # 888: #2 {D: dynamite.} # Interviewer: what? 888: {D: Dynamite.} Interviewer: {NW} Okay. {NW} Okay. oh {NS} Okay what do you call the kind of uh shop where like I could take my watch and leave it you know for a certain amount of money? #1 and # 888: #2 Who do I call # Oh a pawn shop? Interviewer: Okay. um what would you call the worst section of town? Like downtown where drunks would be sitting around on the street and uh {NS} you know and just sitting there not doing anything there'd be a bunch of cheap hotels and just a real bad section of downtown 888: Travis Park. That's where all of them hang out. Interviewer: Okay. #1 Okay. where is that? # 888: #2 {NW} # That's on the corner of Travis right on the corner of Travis {NW} by the San Anthony's hotel on the corner of Travis street. #1 Right off of Travis. # Interviewer: #2 Okay # I'll keep that in mind next time I'm downtown. 888: {NW} #1 yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Get away from there. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: um what would you call Okay um what do you call a kind of movie theater a movie house that shows uh dirty movies? 888: What do you call them? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Just call it a rated X theater. Rated X theater. Interviewer: Okay. um Do you know of any other names for uh wine? 888: Booze. Interviewer: Okay. Does booze include um {NS} an does booze include other kinds of liquor too? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. um What's some other words for money? 888: What's some uh other words for money? Interviewer: {NW} 888: Dust. Give me some dust. Bread Interviewer: #1 what's the first one? # 888: #2 give me some bread. # Dust. Interviewer: How do you spell that? 888: D-U-S-T. Interviewer: I haven't heard that. 888: You never heard that? Interviewer: No. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Where have I been all my life {NW} 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 888: It's a really old saying. And then another one is got some bread on you. #1 you heard that before. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Yeah I heard that. 888: Yeah and another word is green. Interviewer: What? 888: Give some green green. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. um what do you call a person who's hooked on drugs? 888: A drug addict. Interviewer: Okay and what do you call the person you know not a drugger but somebody who who sells drugs directly to the addict on the street illegally? 888: Pusher. Interviewer: Mm-kay. um {NS} What do you know about marijuana? 888: What do I know about marijuana? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I know it's bad for your health and I know it's it could kill you if you {NW} take so much of it and it's no good for your health it's all Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Messes up your lungs and brain. Interviewer: Do you know um any different kinds of it? 888: Any different kinds of heroin heroin? Interviewer: Um marijuana. 888: Marijuana? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: No I don't. Interviewer: {NW} 888: I wouldn't know because I don't I don't never mess with the stuff. Interviewer: Yeah. That's good. um does it usually come in what a powder or a look like a 888: It comes in a powder. pallet of white. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. um have you ever heard anybody talk about what's the best kind of marijuana to get? 888: Have I heard anybody talk about it? Interviewer: Uh-huh 888: Well I heard people talk about uh things like you know where they ship it at you know stuff like that and I never heard from them what kind is the best kind or you know Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. um what other kinds of drugs are there? that are illegal you know? 888: L-S-D dope weed and Interviewer: What did you say after dope? 888: Dope, weed. Interviewer: Weed? what is that is there another name for that? 888: Another word for weed? Interviewer: {NW} 888: Not that I know of. #1 It's weed. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 888: You know what that is don't you? Interviewer: Mm-mm. 888: You don't know what weed is? Interviewer: Mm-mm. 888: Was a lot of them smoking in San Antonio. Interviewer: Mm 888: That's on that's about the weed is about the baddest not the baddest drug but the most popular drug in San Antonio right now. Interviewer: Yeah. It's not the same thing as marijuana? 888: Well you can say it's the same thing but you know you smoke it just the same. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: and Interviewer: What else is there? 888: What else what other drug? Interviewer: {NW} 888: I said L-S-D right? They got uh All the drugs I know of that's I know of Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Are all those that you named are they uh stuff you smoke or are any of them pills or 888: weed is just smoke you uh talk you talking about pills? You want me to name some pills? Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah. 888: Well they got they got some pills called downers they got some called reds and then they got some yellow then they got some uh uh black yellow jackets. Yellow jackets. Interviewer: Yeah. #1 what do # 888: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: What do the different ones do? Do you know? 888: Well the downers they take your mind all the way off. They take your mind you know you don't have a mind on you. You'll be tripping out you don't know what you're doing. Interviewer: {NW} That's bad. What are reds? 888: Reds? Interviewer: {NW} 888: Uh reds if you take enough of them they'll really get you get you going but reds is mostly when you you know try you know when you get really knocked out. You know you get yourself knocked out. Interviewer: Yeah. are they more like uppers or are they downers? 888: It's something like downers. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. uh anything else? 888: That's all I can think of I can think of a lot more but I think I named enough. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Okay. uh Okay what do you call the the uh guy who who brings letters to your house? 888: Bring what? Interviewer: Letters. 888: Letters? Oh. A mailman. Interviewer: Okay. And the people who come and pick up the trash the garbage in the back. 888: Trash man. Interviewer: Okay. And what do you say a person has if he's able to gain favors like from politicians and city hall? 888: he's able to gain what do you call him? Interviewer: Yeah. What what would you say he has? 888: Legal legal rights? Interviewer: What? 888: The legal rights? Interviewer: Okay. anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: um What would you call sometimes there's a city employee no no sometimes there's a guy who works in the city but he's on the payroll you know but he doesn't do anything {NW} he's not really he doesn't really have a job. and he's just on there probably for because of political reasons. #1 you know. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: would do you have a name for a person like that? 888: That sits on the sits in for for political reasons? Interviewer: Yeah. He he has a job or at least on the books you know he has a job but he doesn't really do anything he just he just draws a salary and that's it. 888: Do I have a name for it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I would just call him easy pay. Interviewer: Okay. um uh other than a brand name like A-T-B or something what would you call a large food store like that? 888: What would I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Henry E Butts. Interviewer: Okay. uh if you didn't call it by its name you'd say I'm gonna go down to the 888: food store. Interviewer: Okay. You have another name besides food store? 888: super market. Interviewer: {NW} {NS} what would you call oh a little neighborhood store, I've seen some around here I can't can't remember where but like it'll they'll be on the corner you know and they're usually run by family. 888: Oh Interviewer: they cater to kids that come by the school and that kind of thing. 888: that's a little grocery store then it's a little grocery store Interviewer: Okay. and then what about the kind that well they're kind of modern and they're usually all glass across the front and they're open real early and open real late or sometimes they're open 24 hours. 888: Oh stop and go? Interviewer: Yeah. Do you have another do you know another name for one of those? 888: Another name for {NS} uh like {D: A-D-N A-D-N} they open twenty-four hours a day mostly. Interviewer: Okay. um 888: I say uh graveyard shift. The graveyard store. cause they stay open almost all night. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. {NS} um what would you call a a store where you might get some kind of expensive special kind of foods like um specially cooked meats and bunches of different kinds of cheese and pickles maybe certain kinds and uh expensive kinds of salad and stuff like that? 888: What would I what? Interviewer: What would you call a place like that? 888: I just What would I call a place like that? Interviewer: {NW} 888: A store. Interviewer: Okay. um What are some things that people have in the kitchen to heat food if they don't want to bother with the stove or the regular oven? 888: They call it what do they a heater. bunsen burner. Interviewer: Okay bunsen burner what else? 888: um {NS} {NW} The oven Interviewer: {NW} 888: Think when anyone turns the stove on right? Interviewer: {NW} 888: They get I guess they just keep it in the oven. Interviewer: Okay. um 888: and then turn {X} Interviewer: um anything else electric you know that might be smaller than the oven? {NS} 888: uh I guess a bunsen burner that's all #1 I can think of. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # um what do you call a coin operated self service place where you go and do your clothes? #1 {X} # 888: #2 {X} # {NW} Washateria Interviewer: Okay. uh you know another name? 888: Laundry. Interviewer: Okay. um {NS} what do you call a thing it, that you have at home has a lid you know and you throw your dirty clothes in there. 888: Clothes rack. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. Okay. it it this 888: a damper Interviewer: what? 888: what you say? Interviewer: it it's you know just a thing where you pile your dirty clothes in it. It's usually made out of some kind of woven stuff usually has a lid you know and 888: We call ours the damper. Interviewer: Okay. um if you're gonna clean the rug you usually use a 888: A vacuum cleaner. Interviewer: Okay. And attached to the vacuum cleaner there's this thing that you have to change cause it fills up with dirt and stuff 888: the dirt catcher. Interviewer: Okay. um have you ever heard of those machines that some people have at home that reduces the size of their trash or garbage 888: Do I know the name of it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Trash compacter. Interviewer: Okay. um what do you call those big round metal things that you have you probably have out back that you put the trash or garbage in? {NS} 888: uh dumper? Dump? You're talking about a trash can or trash can. Interviewer: That you have at home? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. What about the kind that that's bigger it's a big square thing like a 888: oh you're talking about the the dump. Dump in the back that's what we call it the dump. Interviewer: Okay isn't that's the that's 888: #1 dump can # Interviewer: #2 the big # Okay and the kind the truck comes along and picks up 888: Yeah, picks the whole thing up Interviewer: Yeah. that's neat cause like 888: Yeah. they got easier you know some trash you know just sit in a truck and just let the truck do the work #1 you know # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 888: You don't have to get your hands dirty at all. Interviewer: Yeah. #1 That'd be a good job. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: uh do you know any other names for cigarettes? 888: {D: guave} and smoke that's all I know Interviewer: Okay. {NS} uh what do you call the uh the car {NS} where they take {NS} that they used to take a a dead person from the uh like from the funeral home to the uh cemetery in? 888: A hearse. Interviewer: Okay. And what do you call the guy who prepares the a dead body for burial? 888: What do I call him? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: The embalmer. Interviewer: Okay. Any other thing that you call him? 888: {NW} uh {NS} no Interviewer: Okay. Um sometimes instead of burying the body in the ground they'll just take the body and put it in a building you know and they just sort of stack them up cause it's building what do you call the buildings? 888: Don't bury them? Interviewer: Yeah they just they don't bury them. They just put them in a in a vault kind of thing and they just slide the it's like a drawer. 888: Oh you're talking about Interviewer: and the whole building you call a 888: the heating you know keep them cold Interviewer: #1 I don't think it's still cold I think it's just # 888: #2 talking about a # Interviewer: it's just sealed you know. 888: I don't call it nothing cause I never seen none. Interviewer: It's creepy. #1 I don't like the idea. # 888: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: When you think of them you know they're all stacked up #1 there like # 888: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: sardines sort of. 888: I never seen that so I don't know. {X} Interviewer: My mother in law's mother died last spring and that's that's the way she wanted to be buried was like that. 888: Oh inside a tomb? Interviewer: Yeah in in one of these drawers. You know just slide them in. 888: Why she wanted to be buried like that she wanted to be cremated #1 or what # Interviewer: #2 no # {NW} she wasn't cremated the whole body you know you just put it in there like that. I don't know why she would be buried like that she was weird when she was alive too. 888: that's very weird Interviewer: {NW} her sister in law whatever {NW} grand {X} what what is she to you? She's my my grandmother-in-law I guess you'd say. 888: Oh grandmother-in-law. #1 well she's really weird then. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # My husband's grandma. 888: She wants to sit up in a drawer and be dead in the ground. Interviewer: What? 888: I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't want to you know be in nobody's I wouldn't want to be in no drawer without any ground. Interviewer: I know I wouldn't either. I think it's creepy. #1 Really. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {X} Um Okay. tell me about rooms in a house um how would you call a room that was enclosed but it was sixteen o {X} you get the most sunlight possible like they have glass walls or something 888: What would I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Repeat that again please. Interviewer: Okay you got a room that's got a bunch of glass so it'll get a lot of sunlight and you might put plants out there 888: Oh you talking about the it's the the sun room. #1 I say that's the # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay. # 888: {D: some really big name of it but} I'm comfortable with the sun room. Interviewer: Okay. um what do you call the kind of an informal room with a couch where you might just watch TV and relax and 888: What do I call it I call it a living room. Interviewer: Mm-kay. um what would you call a room that has a a toilet and a sink but it doesn't have any bathtub or shower? 888: What do I call a house? Interviewer: That that kind of room 888: it's got a toi- it's got a bathroom Interviewer: It's got it's got a it's got a toilet and a sink. 888: {NW} Interviewer: But it doesn't have a bathtub or shower. 888: What do I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I would say unsanitary. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 888: Cause I have to {D: have a bath} Interviewer: {NW} Okay. um what kind of a what do y'all use to heat your house? What kind of furnace do y'all have? 888: To heat our house? Interviewer: {NW} 888: only thing we got is a stove you know a heater. Interviewer: {NW} 888: We don't have no you know central heating or Interviewer: Yeah. what was it uh is it gas or is it 888: Gas. It's gas heater it's a gas heater. Interviewer: {NW} um when you say heater does it like an open flame where you can see the {NS} 888: Open Yeah. open flame it just come up {C: Lots of noise 26:41 to 26:45} Interviewer: Yeah, yeah. Okay. um let's see do you remember any other kinds of heating stuff that you had in different houses or have you always had kind of the same thing? 888: Um we had wooden stoves back in those days long time ago. Interviewer: Okay, okay. um {NS} In the winter how does the air circulate? {C: Lots of noise in previous line} #1 you know how does # 888: #2 how does it # How does the air circulate? Interviewer: Yeah how does the heat get around to the rest of the house? 888: I guess it goes to the ceiling and then when it goes to the ceiling it goes everywhere. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. um do y'all have air conditioning? 888: Yes. Interviewer: How do you make the air go through the house in the air conditioning? 888: It just goes through just like the oxygen. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 888: #2 It just # goes through the house to keep it you leave all the doors open it'll be all through there. Interviewer: What I'm sorry what? 888: I said if you leave all the doors open it'll be all through the house the air in different you know Interviewer: Mm-kay. #1 Okay. # 888: #2 the air conditioner. # Interviewer: y'all ever use a fan or anything like that? 888: Yeah. we use a fan. We got one in the {X} room and Interviewer: um have you ever seen a house that just has like three rooms. and they're the rooms are just in a straight line like this, straight back and like if you open the front door you could look all the way through all three rooms. Have you seen a house like that? 888: Yeah. we like in a house like that. Interviewer: Okay. what do you call that kind of house? 888: I call it a a a duplex because our house has got three doors on the front. Interviewer: {NW} 888: And my room is the first one and there's another room going my sister's room is the next room. Interviewer: {NW} 888: Then we got a we don't have no it's just say a guest room all the way straight back the last room. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: And we got some other rooms on the side the dining room stuff like that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. But yours has more than just the 888: Three rooms. Interviewer: straight. Yeah. Okay. um Have you ever seen a house that has like uh two big rooms just two rooms. A room here and a room here and then in the middle there's this long hallway and it's got a roof over it but it's open {NW} you know it's open at both ends like the wind can just go right through there. It's built you know to make it real cool Do you have a name for that kind of house? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. um there's another kind of house that has just two rooms and it's got like a long entry hall and then a ninety degree angle you got the a big room right here. #1 Just one room like that # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Do you have a do you have a name for a house like that? 888: Do I have a name for a house? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: no Interviewer: Okay. uh Okay what would you call a large building where uh Scratch that let me ask you something else first. #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: what kind of buildings would house more than one family? You know lots of families? 888: Lots of families? Interviewer: Yeah. Auxiliary: {NW} 888: What what kind of house would I call that? Interviewer: Yeah, what kind of building would you call it? 888: Call it the house. Interviewer: Okay. um what's an apartment? Would an apartment be something like that? 888: No. Interviewer: What's an apartment? Can you describe an apartment for me? 888: Apartment is about {D: now it depends} how many people live apartment has one room I believe no apartments have one room some have two but Apartment is when you by yourself or {NS} You're just two persons {D: with your unit} you're husband and wife but it's not for a for a family. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. What would you call an apartment that occupies like the whole floor of a building? 888: the whole floor of the building? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: What would I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. Auxiliary: Hi. Interviewer: Hi. 888: What would I call an apartment that occupies the whole building? Interviewer: Whole floor. #1 whole floor. # 888: #2 the whole floor, like # Interviewer: the whole fifth floor or something. 888: Um just a whole big uh duplex apartment. {NS} Interviewer: Okay. um sometimes you got an apartment where the where the people who live there Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: actually own 888: Uh-huh. {NS} Interviewer: actually own their apartment you know they don't just rent it they really own it. {C: Lots of noise in previous line} #1 um # Auxiliary: #2 pass me that # Interviewer: #1 and like they # Auxiliary: #2 pass me the ball # Interviewer: #1 they all chip in to have uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 grass mowed and stuff like that # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 do you know the name for something like that? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: {X} no I sure don't I haven't Interviewer: Okay. um What do you call houses where you know they're regular houses maybe a two stories or something 888: {NW} Interviewer: but they're all jammed up together and they share a wall. You know like #1 there's no # 888: #2 Oh # Interviewer: space between them. 888: You're talking about um uh together apartment. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 they # You know duplex are duplex hooked on each other. Interviewer: What 888: Duplex apartments hooked on each other. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Side by side? 888: Yeah side by side that's what my grandmother lives in. Interviewer: Okay. um most apartment buildings have a guy who does you now does some of the plumbing he does electrical repair and stuff like that. What do you call a guy like that? 888: I call him a janitor Interviewer: Okay. #1 and # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Sometimes there's a guy who lives in the apartment and he shows uh vacant apartments to people who might want to move in and and he works with the apartments owners you know and 888: {NW} Interviewer: and uh he helps the other people who live there what would you call somebody like that? 888: {D: Tenor.} Interviewer: Okay. 888: {D: Tenor.} Interviewer: um {NW} Okay on lawnmowers what would you call the kind of lawnmower that you drive sort of like a car? 888: I say ride and guide kind of car. Interviewer: What? 888: Ride and guide. Interviewer: Okay. and uh what do you call the kind that is has an electric motor or a gas motor but you still you know it has a power motor but you still have to steer it with your hands 888: What do I call them? Interviewer: {NW} 888: I say a walking mower. Interviewer: Okay. and then there's the kind that um old fashioned kind that doesn't have any motor at all it's just got a little rotary thing that 888: Oh you talking about a push mower. Interviewer: Okay. uh if you were gonna plow up a garden in your backyard 888: {NW} Interviewer: You'd probably have to go and rent something to plow it with and what would you call that thing that you rent? 888: To plow with? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I call that uh bulldozer I guess. Interviewer: A what? 888: A tractor. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. um There's one thing that you might use in the garden that the it's shaped like a shovel except it's just instead of a long handle like a shovel it has it's just got a little hand handle and you use like this to get out weeds or something 888: Oh you talking about a garden tool? Interviewer: {NW} #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 garden # shovel. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. um {NW} have you ever seen the kind of garden tool that has uh it's got three prongs kind of like a claw like that 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 except they're long # Yeah they're longer like this and uh it's got a little hand handle and you use it like this to get up weeds 888: uh What do I call that? Interviewer: Yeah you have a name for that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. um what kind of a rake would you use to rake up leaves in the fall? 888: What kind of rake would I call that, a leaf rake. Interviewer: Okay. um there's a what's it look like? Can you describe it to me? 888: What it looks like? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: uh I just say a rake or a leaf rake. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. There's another kind of rake that that you might use um like in the garden like once you got it plowed up then you have to even out the dirt you know make it level. 888: {NW} Interviewer: And this kind of rake it's shaped sort of like a comb like if you take your comb and you know just like that and it's got these little short metal pieces about this long you have a different name for that kind of rake? 888: Iron rake. Interviewer: what? 888: It's a iron rake Interviewer: Mm-kay. um what would What do you call something that you'd use to keep your hedge level with? 888: Trimmers. Interviewer: Okay would those be electric or would they be manual? 888: Well oh auto I mean just manual. Interviewer: Mm 888: Regular. Interviewer: Okay. uh if you had some that were electric would you call them anything different? 888: Yes I'd call it electric clip- elec- electricity trippers. elec- electricity trip clippers. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Clippers. Interviewer: Okay. um say uh say a big tree blew down say that tree right there blew down and blew across the street 888: {NW} Interviewer: they'd probably have to get somebody out here from the city #1 with a # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: a gasoline-powered thing to cut the tree up with because it's too big just to move you know in one piece. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: What what would you call that? 888: I'd call that a chainsaw. Interviewer: Okay. uh can you name and describe for me different cuts of uh beef? 888: Different cuts of beef? Interviewer: Yeah. like you might buy at the store or 888: Liver liver liver beef. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Cow beef. Interviewer: Wait what was the last thing? 888: Cow beef liver beef Interviewer: Okay. what else? Anything else? 888: and rib beef. Interviewer: Okay what are the ribs? 888: Ribs Ribs is the kind that has the little bitty bone I mean little flat bone in Interviewer: Mm-kay. 888: Yeah. All the way down you know every every place just about two fifths about say about two inches from the {X} Interviewer: Okay. What else? 888: That's about all Interviewer: Okay. uh you have any cuts of pork? 888: Pork? Yeah rib pork and {NW} rib pork they got steak pork pork chops #1 and # Interviewer: #2 and what do they # Do you know the difference in the way they look? 888: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 you know # how do they 888: Well pork chops is is just regular like steak it's in a {D: try it} sort of like a four corners got four corners on the about four corners and pork meat is sort of like made like hamburger meat. Interviewer: #1 How does that # 888: #2 Yeah. # pork meat Interviewer: Yeah is it ground up you mean? 888: Yeah it's ground up. #1 Yeah. you've seen that before haven't you # Interviewer: #2 oh # Yeah. 888: it's ground up Yeah that's about all I can tell you. Interviewer: Okay what about cuts of lamb, you know about, have you eaten different cuts of lamb? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. um what about different kinds of #1 poultry? # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: You know different kinds of chicken and turkey and stuff? 888: uh Different kinds? Interviewer: Yeah. {C: Lots of noise 37:28 to 37:30} 888: Well I call it they got turkey they got um the back they got the leg they got the stomach they got the neck Interviewer: Yeah. 888: they got the wing. Interviewer: When you buy a a chicken usually you can go to the store and they'll have one kind that says fryer they'll have another kind that says hen or something like that. #1 Do you know the difference in those? # 888: #2 {NW} # Yes. Interviewer: What's the difference? 888: Well when they say some in the fryer What you want to know the difference? Interviewer: Well I mean that is there was there a difference in like the age of the chicken? or something like that? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: which one's older do you know? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. uh what are some different kinds of sausage? 888: oh different kinds of sausage? #1 uh # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 888: Pork sausage and regular sausage. Interviewer: What's regular sausage? 888: A link sausage link sausages. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Barbecue sausages and that's all I can {X} chili sausage Interviewer: Okay. what's a chili sausage? 888: A chili sausage is something that you cook in water and when you cooked all the water out of it, it's ready to eat. And you can mix like egg and stuff with it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 it's {X} # It comes out of the the skin. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. uh oh what do you call that kind of thing that that you might get like a circus or at the at a football or baseball game? 888: What kind of thing is that? Interviewer: Yeah uh what kind of a sausage and it's red you know and about this long and you put it in a bun you put mustard and relish on it. 888: Oh hot dog? Interviewer: Okay. now when you say hot dog does that refer to the whole whole thing with the bun and all you know or does it just mean the the red thing? 888: it's uh it's for the buns for all the relish and {C: Noise from 39:28 to 39:36} Interviewer: #1 what what say that again? # 888: #2 and # Yeah. it it you know lettuce and ketchup and bread Interviewer: Yeah. 888: It refers to the whole thing. Interviewer: Mm-kay so hot dog means the whole thing? 888: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: what would you say if you were just talking about the red thing? 888: I'd just say the hot dog. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. 888: Plain wing. Interviewer: Huh? 888: Plain wing. Interviewer: Wing? 888: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: Okay. Oh an ant. um Have you ever seen the kind of sandwich that comes in a big bun about like this and they {D: clock it} through this way and it's got two or three different kinds of meat and two or three kinds of cheese and usually lettuce and tomatoes on it? 888: Mixed sandwiches I guess mixed sandwich. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. uh What would you have to drink with a sandwich like that? 888: Um probably milk or soda water or something sweet to drink. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. uh you Do you know any other names for soda water besides soda water? 888: Uh any other names? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Pop they call it pop soda. and sweet that's all I know kool-aid. Interviewer: Okay. #1 Okay. # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: um Okay if you were if you were over 18 you instead of having soda water you might have a 888: A beer. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} 888: I always I always have a beer ma'am Interviewer: you might have one now 888: Yeah I know I could do for one right now {NW} Interviewer: {NW} Yeah. {NW} that's the truth 888: Yeah. Interviewer: that would be good. A Coors preferably that's my favorite kind 888: Coors? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Oh yeah then they {X} lot of people drink it I never heard I mean you know I don't see too much of here in San Antonio. Interviewer: Oh well it's hard to get. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 they don't sell it everywhere # 888: #2 only place # I don't think they sell it here because this dude where I used to work at? Interviewer: {NW} 888: and he had to go all the way out of town I think it was Interviewer: Yeah. 888: forget it cause he was giving a party Coors that uh they say it's a pretty good beer. Interviewer: Yeah. it is they sell it in Dallas 888: that's what you like? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: oh that's good Interviewer: Yeah. 888: well my kind of beer you know my kind of beer? Interviewer: what? 888: Flex. Interviewer: Okay. #1 Yeah. that's alright # 888: #2 that # #1 That's my kind of beer. # Interviewer: #2 I like that # I had some of that with the other night with some Mexican food that was good 888: Oh you did? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: uh-oh Interviewer: {NW} 888: drinking on the job #1 you hear that # Interviewer: #2 {X} # #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 And here it is on tape for proof # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: um oh do you know any other names for beer besides just beer? 888: Do I know any other names for it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I would just no I don't. Interviewer: Okay. um Okay. let's see {NS} um a woman has a {NS} a ring that has a big stone in it I mean a big about like that 888: {NW} Interviewer: you know and like she has to take it off when she washes dishes or something like that and what would you call a ring that has a stone in it like that big? 888: A birthstone? Interviewer: Yeah it might be a birthstone or whatever you know just just something big and pretty #1 you know just # 888: #2 I just # call it a a diamond ring. Interviewer: Okay. um what do you call shorts either men or womens that would come about to your knee? 888: What would I call them? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I just call them shorts. Interviewer: Okay. what would you call something that came down to about here? Some kind of pants you know came down to about here 888: High waters. Interviewer: #1 High waters. # 888: #2 {NW} # Yeah they {NW} Interviewer: Okay. Are those for men or women? 888: {NW} They for everybody when their pants outgrow them. Interviewer: {NW} 888: when they try to wear them Interviewer: {NW} Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} I love it 888: {NW} Interviewer: uh Okay. what do you call shorts that come to here about here? 888: What do I call them? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: How far? uh well I say high pants when they come a little up to up too far up there Interviewer: Okay. #1 Okay. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: uh let's see what would you call clothes that had been owned by somebody else before you got them? 888: what what what would I call them? Interviewer: {NW} 888: I would call them secondhand clothes. Interviewer: Okay. what if you got them from an older brother or something? would you still call it secondhand or would you call it something else? 888: I call it secondhand. Interviewer: Okay. um what do you call very fashionable or really good looking clothes? 888: What do I call them? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Cool studs. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 uh # Interviewer: Cool what? 888: Cool studs. Interviewer: Okay. alright cool studs. well is there something a girl could wear? 888: No it I mean you know it's got a different name for girls. Interviewer: Yeah what would a girl wear? #1 I mean # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: if it was really good looking clothes for a girl what would you call it? 888: I would say really skintight. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} Okay. {NW} 888: #1 that's what I would call it # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Okay. uh Okay if you were going some place on an airplane and you had some clothes that wouldn't fit in your suitcase you know and you had to carry them hanging up 888: Yeah. Interviewer: You'd have a little bag with a zipper on it 888: that's what I took up there to Houston. Interviewer: Yeah what do you call that thing? 888: What call what do I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well uh I would just call it a suit bag. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. um what would you what do you call the kind of light weight plastic thing that you get at the cleaners when you get you know you take some pants or something to be cleaned? 888: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 or to # Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: What do you call that kind? 888: What do I call it I call it cellophane cellophane wax. I you know many pants I I put my pants in the cleaners and lady you know {NW} It's over I think it's over about sometimes around three dollars and she don't even put no st- wrapper on it. You know I I don't over there I asked her about that one time #1 and she said # Interviewer: #2 Yeah? # 888: Well it's so much you got to pay for so much you got to pay to just to get that wrap on there. Interviewer: Well that's weird I've never heard of that 888: and you know it I don't care if the pants cost fifty cents you should still get the wrapper on it because you paying your money and you want you know dust could get on it you know on the outside. Interviewer: Yeah. I know 888: And then she puts them on all the rest of them and I say well you said you started on all the rest of them, you should put it on all of them. I you know some places not like that. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And some are Interviewer: Some places you'd get it anyway #1 just because it's good service. # 888: #2 Yeah. # Yeah {NS} I guess she's tight. {NS} Interviewer: That's weird. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Um What all different kinds of shoes would men wear? 888: What different types? #1 Alligators # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 888: and Interviewer: What are alligators? 888: Alligator shoes are made out of alligator. And {NW} they got different you know designs on the front. Interviewer: Okay. 888: And #1 they got Davy boots people # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 888: few some people wear {D: Davy} boots. #1 some boots # Interviewer: #2 what kind of boots? # 888: {D: Davy} boots Interviewer: What are those? 888: {D: Davy} boots are something that's comfortable you've seen me wearing some {D: Davy} boots one day too, like at the black ones I wore. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Them was the {D: Davy} boots. They're they're not exactly them is they they they made just like {D: Davy} boots but they got more rubber than {D: Davy} boots do. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: and Interviewer: uh describe it to more for the you know. 888: #1 The Davy # Interviewer: #2 you know # 888: boots? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well {D: Davy} boots is something to be comfortable in it's real light and not heavy and the rubber on them is real good. Interviewer: Cool. 888: Oh Reynold cut that out. Interviewer: Kinds of shoes? 888: Different kind oh {D: Davy} boots? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: uh {D: Davy} boots are light. {NW} They thin on the rub the rubber's not that thick. {NW} And it's good to work in when you want to work and it's all I could tell you about {D: Davy} boots. Interviewer: Okay what other kind of men's shoes are there? 888: They got like I said they got alligator shoes they got uh Leather shoes they got tennis shoes Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 {NW} # sandals and they got {NS} uh let's see what else kind of shoes. That's all the kind of shoes I can think of. They got platform shoes some people don't wear platform shoes but lot of people wear them. Interviewer: Okay. um tennis shoes {NW} are those do you have to just play tennis in tennis shoes or 888: Do you have to just play tennis in them? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: No you play basketball these are All Star I got on these tennis shoes I got on right here. You can play basketball you can play #1 tennis # Auxiliary: #2 {NW} # 888: Anything you want to play as long as it's you know you want to be comfortable and get around and then play in. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. 888: Any kind of sport. Interviewer: And what kind of shoes would women wear? 888: What kind of shoes women wear? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: They wear uh sneakers I guess. They got wear sneakers {NW} you know tennis and sandals. Interviewer: Okay. 888: cotton level shoes maybe you know. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. Okay. um What would you call {X} dress up shoes that a girl might wear? 888: What would I call dress up shoes? Interviewer: Yeah. Auxiliary: {X} 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 just # Dress up shoes or something else? 888: I just call them uh dress up shoes. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. uh cool What grades are um grades are in grade school? Around elementary school now? 888: What grades are they? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: From the first to the twelfth. Interviewer: Okay and this is in elementary school? 888: Yeah. oh what grades to which? Interviewer: Yeah like 888: Well the first first grade is to first grade is to right now I think to the sixth grade. Interviewer: Okay and then what do they go into? 888: And junior school now they changed it now up here from sixth to eighth grade and to junior high school now when you go to high school you go from the ninth to the twelfth. They got it separated. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 then on up # Interviewer: {NW} Okay. um do you have a name for a a real ugly man or a boy? 888: A real ugly man or a boy? Interviewer: Yeah. what would you call him? 888: He's just hurt {NW} Interviewer: Okay or would you s- 888: #1 how are you doing there # Interviewer: #2 say you # 888: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 # Auxiliary: Hi Interviewer: Hi Auxiliary: Hi Interviewer: Or would you say he's ugly as {NS} anything? 888: {NW} I guess I would just say he's just ugly Interviewer: Okay uh what about a real ugly girl? You have a name for a real ugly girl? 888: A mug Interviewer: #1 a what? # 888: #2 {NW} # A mugger. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Okay. anything else? 888: {NW} No that's all I can think of. Interviewer: Okay um what would you call a person who always has his nose in the books? You know they never do anything but read and they may not be particularly smart but they just read all the time that's all. 888: Read all the time? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I call them a bookworm stuck to books Interviewer: Okay. Okay now you have a name for somebody who's just real smart you know whether they read all the time or not? 888: For a person that reals that's real smart? Interviewer: {NW} 888: I just call them the brains. Interviewer: Okay. uh What would you call a kid in school who always trying to get the attention of the teacher and get the teacher's praise and you know 888: what would I call him? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I'd call him just a nuisance. Interviewer: Okay. 888: I just call it if he tries to get t- teacher's attention I would just say he just wants more attention for himself. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 or # You know he wants to get attention you know it don't have to be getting attention he might want to ask her something or something. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 {NW} # might get on their nerves something like you know. Interviewer: Okay. what would you call um sometimes this this kind of thing carries over you now when people grow up and they they get a job there's somebody who's always trying to get in good with the boss at work what would you call somebody like that? Auxiliary: {X} 888: What would I call a person like that? Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: Yeah. 888: uh that try to get in good with the boss? Interviewer: Yeah. but I mean uh more than just normal you know I mean they're 888: it's got it's a it's a girl or what just anybody Interviewer: {NW} anybody 888: I just say just trying to make you look get in easy with the boss so the boss can like him and {C: Reduced audio quality 51:33 to 51:37} appreciate him and try to get a raise. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 888: #2 called bribe # Interviewer: Okay. Okay. um let's see um what do you call that place in school where they usually have pep rallies and uh Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: I guess they have Yeah pep rallies 888: Pep rallies? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: What do I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: A A outdoor fair for the school. Football game something like that. Interviewer: Okay what well what would {NW} We always had our pep rallies indoors. Now let me think about this uh {NW} they also have P-E classes. 888: P-E classes Interviewer: Yeah in this big thing had basketball games in there {NS} 888: uh gym Interviewer: what? 888: Talking about the gym? Interviewer: Yeah. Okay what else is going in the gym? 888: Basketball, tennis uh that's all I can think of Interviewer: Okay. um what do you call the place in school where the toilets are? 888: Restroom. Interviewer: What? 888: Restroom. Interviewer: Okay. um oh {NW} do you have do you know of a of a bad like a derogatory name or any other kind of nickname sort of thing for somebody who's a hippie? 888: For somebody a hippie for a hippie? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I call a weirdo. Interviewer: Okay. a what? 888: Weirdo. Interviewer: Alright any anything else? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. um what would you call somebody you know probably another guy who like you grew up with you've known forever and he might be somebody you tell your problems to and stuff like that 888: what would I call him? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I call him a close brother or a friend. Interviewer: Okay. um have you ever heard of somebody who uh like if somebody doesn't have a father or you know somebody's father's dead or or maybe his father's just not around much somebody who I don't know kind of takes over and acts like a father to somebody? You ever heard of somebody like that? 888: The guardian? Guardian? Interviewer: what? 888: The guardian? Father. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. 888: Yeah. Interviewer: um at school there are a bunch of y'all that that go around together and always you know do things together and stuff like that? 888: um bunch of us? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: and do things together? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: We just say we're all together and we friends and we always be together. Interviewer: {NW} #1 Okay. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 do you call # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: do you call it anything like you know a bunch or a Auxiliary: {X} 888: Sigmund watch out {NS} Interviewer: or I mean you'd say I'm gonna go up well if you tell your mother where you're going you say I'm gonna go out with a {NW} do you have a name for that group? 888: Oh do I do I have a name for that? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I just say when I go out I'm going out with a couple of friends of mine Interviewer: Okay. Okay. uh {NW} if um 888: {NW} Interviewer: the new kid moves in the neighborhood especially if it's a younger kid uh would would he have any kind of I mean would would the other kids in the neighborhood have any kind of um initiation that he'd have to go through? 888: No that's all that's in the past. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Do you have anything like that for people who are like born in the neighborhood? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. uh um um um um Okay I've I've {X} What would you call a man or a boy who acts kind of girlish or womanish? 888: What would I call a girl boy that Interviewer: #1 uh # 888: #2 a girl # Interviewer: No a man um a boy 888: Oh #1 what would I call him? # Interviewer: #2 who acts kind of # 888: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 888: Faggot. I would call him Interviewer: Okay now uh would that would that apply to someone who's really a homosexual? {NS} 888: Yeah. {NS}{C: Loud noise from 55:58 to 56:05} probably like Interviewer: You said you talk me on this 888: Oh I did say #1 I forgot # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # thank you 888: So like Yeah a homosexual and sort of on the girl's side a punk Interviewer: it Okay Okay what was that word you used again? 888: A punk. Interviewer: Okay and the other one was 888: Homosexual. Interviewer: Yeah or a 888: Fag. Interviewer: Okay. um Okay all those people are real sure homosexuals is that right? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay now you have a word for somebody who's not really a homosexual but he's just sort of {NS} you know sort of I don't know he just acts sort of girl-y. 888: I just call him a just call him a punk. Interviewer: Okay um Okay what about what about a a girl? 888: #1 a girl? # Interviewer: #2 {X} # homosexual 888: I call her horny. Horny. Horny. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. And you know any other names? 888: uh {D: harlot}. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. um what about a girl who's not you know real sure enough homosexual but she's just sort of Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: acts like a Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: sort of Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: like a boy or like a man or something, what would you call someone like that? 888: A try to act like a boy and what? Interviewer: Yeah she she she acts like a man sort of you know sort of 'un- in an unpleasant sort of way but she's not a real homosexual do you have a name for somebody like that? 888: Tries to act like a man. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I'd just say she wants to be a Interviewer: Okay. 888: I say that she she's kind of horny and she wants to be a man. Interviewer: Okay. uh say do you um what would you call a sexually overactive woman or a girl? 888: A overactive girl what you mean by that? Interviewer: Oh just has sex all the time. 888: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 888: Sex all the time. Interviewer: Every thirty minutes or something I don't know 888: What would I call a girl? Interviewer: Yeah who did that. 888: I'd just say she's she just likes it I guess. Interviewer: Okay. what about a boy who did that? Same thing or something different? 888: What do I would I call a boy that likes sex all the time? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Well I would just say he just likes sex. Interviewer: Okay. Alright. What about what would you call a girl who would just go do it with just anybody? I mean you know she didn't care and she didn't care who knew about it either. What would you call someone like that? 888: Dynamite. Interviewer: What? 888: Dynamite. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: What about a boy who's the same way? He'd go to bed with anybody he didn't care who knew about it. 888: He'd go to bed with anybody Interviewer: What? 888: I wouldn't say I would call him uh unclean Interviewer: Okay 888: because no telling what the girl got and what she who she's been having way before that you know. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. um do you know of a rough 888: {NW} Interviewer: #1 kind of word games where # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: you know that like teenage boys might play where one tries to insult the other one more and then you know somebody comes up and insults you and you try to insult them back more. 888: oh I call it cut down. Interviewer: What? 888: I call it cut down you know you get cut down by another friend you get you know {NS} cursed out and {NS} I call it a cut down Interviewer: Okay. um is that the same thing as 888: to get down on your case you know really getting down on your case Interviewer: #1 on your what? # 888: #2 about you. # your case Interviewer: what's that 888: we call it the ca- {NW} your case. Like somebody rides your case and you know you don't you don't {X} and something they ride real bad and they might ride your family and then that's called they riding your case. Interviewer: I get it okay. uh is that the same thing as playing the {X} 888: Playing the what? Interviewer: {D: The doggone}? You ever heard of that? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. what about {D: founding or} signify or ranking? 888: No. Interviewer: #1 Okay you never heard # 888: #2 Just riding and # getting on your case. Interviewer: Okay. Can you give me an example? 888: Of riding? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: well riding was the same thing as when somebody's getting down on your case Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: and somebody says something funny somebody talking about your clothes and getting on your case and then you I won't- it means about the same thing getting on your case. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: Cause you know like we be talking to a couple of my friends like I say hey man you got black socks black socks on with yellow pants something or green socks on yellow, yellow pants and he might say aw you're getting on my case man stay off my case man. Interviewer: {NW} 888: Another one might say he cutting you he cutting you hard man real low down you know. So #1 that's what I think. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Okay. um Okay would anybody ever insult somebody else's mother? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay can you give me an example? 888: Well like I was riding the bus home from school {NW} you know they was riding each other's case him and this other dude and they was sitting down on the bus so and I knew something was going to happen but I didn't know the dude was going to get you know they was talking about each other at first Interviewer: Yeah. 888: and then they said this other dude told this told this other dude he said hey man I know your mother lift weights and then the other dude started talking about his got on his daddy talking about his daddy you know {X} that he didn't know what he you know tried to pick up things out the trash can something like that I didn't really get it but I well anyway that's what she was that's what he was riding him about. Interviewer: {NW} 888: Then he got mad and one pushed the other one then they got up and then wanted to fight {NS} on the bus. Interviewer: {NW} 888: And the bus driver had to come back and try to break it up. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 888: #2 {NW} # #1 and this # Interviewer: #2 well # 888: pregnant girl was sitting right by me. And she said oh watch out watch out she was going to school at the time you know and she was pregnant. {NW} They was almost. I sat right next to her you know and they almost fell on her and she was trying to get out the way and I. I had to try and move my legs out the way they was falling all down. Interviewer: Yeah. oh man 888: {NW} Interviewer: um well does that kind of thing usually end in fights? 888: Ends a fight, starts a fight. Interviewer: Ends it or starts does it usually start 888: Yeah it starts a fight riding each other's cases and getting down on each each other real hard. Interviewer: {NW} Okay uh do people ever say things that are real dirty? 888: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 like about # 888: Real dirty? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Uh they might say that your family is I don't want to say it to you you want me to say them words? Interviewer: Yeah. Go ahead 888: They might say uh your mother's a whore and your sister's a bitch or something like that. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 888: Or someone might say you whore you seen you on the street last night. {NW} Or something like that. Interviewer: #1 Would they say that to a girl? # 888: #2 you know # Yeah they'll say it to the girl or and they they you know mostly you want me to talk to you about now I'll tell you about the boys they might say that well they they'll probably tell a boy you know boy tell another boy he'll probably get down and signify get down and signify case or something like that. Interviewer: Yeah signify a case? Is that what you said? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Does that mean the same thing as? 888: riding you know signify getting really down real down on it Interviewer: {NW} Okay. 888: And talking bad they'll use the profanity language. Interviewer: Using what? 888: Profanity language. Interviewer: Okay. um let's see what else was I going to ask you about that do girls ever play it? #1 or do you say # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Do you call it playing it? 888: They don't play it they I mean they some of them can take it and some can't. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And some get mad #1 because # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 888: others be riding them harder. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And. Interviewer: Well do girls do it? 888: Yeah the girls do it they call each other like I said they call each other whores and they say like. I seen you know one day I seen this girl and she's walking downtown and she told the girl to wait up she said wait up and I forgot her name said wait up and said other girl said you you come on bitch if you want want me to wait up for you and then they started arguing and going on. {X} Interviewer: You were saying and that something 888: Um I was talking about getting down on each other's case. Interviewer: Yeah. #1 Does it usually start fights for girls too? # 888: #2 I mean # Yeah it it means everybody boys and girls. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 okay put put the mic towards you # 888: Oh {NS} Like I be in the room sometimes me and my friend named Frank and Wyde Earl we call him you name Wyde and and see and Earl we call him Earl of Pearl cause his first name's Earl you know. And we call Wyde wide you know we call him wide his name is Wyde but we call him Wide Earth you know cause he's named after the band so we call him Wider you know. And one day and the dude named Frank he talks so much in the room we say we call they call him goofball you know they always call him goofball but he don't mind it cause he's used to it you know. and sometimes he'd come to school and he'd have some other different color socks on you know and me and him we could get along good I can you know he could talk about me and I could talk about him and never never get mad at each other because I can hold my temper and some can't. Like I say hey man your what you doing with red socks on with blue pants? And then he might say uh the same reason you had something else on you know a different color or something like that. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Uh you know just crack you know riding each other's case but we're not getting mad at each other because we're used to it but some people that's not used to it and has a bad temper they can't take it the pressure that's when they get mad and want to fight. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I never had no trouble like that unless I get if somebody talk about me and they don't know me that's when I will get mad. {C: Noise 1:30 to 1:34} If a person know me and talk about me and if it's too much if I can't stand them to talk about it and I tell him to stop talking about it that's when I want to fight. Interviewer: {NW} Uh how old do are kids when they start doing this usually? 888: How old are they? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: {NW} I'd say start off pretty young walking up {X} the type of age {C: Reduced audio quality in previous line} like I guess say seven or eight on up. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: They just you know getting talked about by each other. Interviewer: Yeah uh when do people stop doing it? I mean do adults do it? 888: Yeah a- adults do it too. Interviewer: {NW} Does it usually end up in a fight? 888: Yes. Talking about each other that that's what I call you know getting you know riding each other's case. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: Some don't and some don't old people I don't think they do it real senior people you know really old people but I don't you know one hundred percent you always usually about fifty percent out of one hundred people ride each other's case and talk about people behind they back and you know start fights. Interviewer: {NW} 888: To tell what the other person said. Interviewer: Um okay now you have you been talking about blacks mostly? 888: Have I been talking about blacks Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 mostly? # No I'm talking about all the races. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Not only blacks. Interviewer: Okay. so you got Mexican Americans doing this and 888: #1 and white people # Interviewer: #2 and white # 888: and black Interviewer: Okay. 888: and Puerto Rican and other people that in San Antonio. Interviewer: Okay okay let's see um if if you tell me a nickname you know for these people tell me if it's if it's derogatory you know I mean by derogatory I mean um what do I mean I mean if you're trying to insult something. 888: Insulting? Interviewer: Yeah if it's insulting. You know what I mean? 888: Um Interviewer: Like if you're 888: Just just giving the name or I'm trying to insult him by the name. Interviewer: What? 888: You're trying to say just give them the name or I'm trying to insult them by a name? Oh that's an insulting name. Is that what you mean? Interviewer: Right that's what I mean. 888: Okay. Interviewer: Okay if somebody if somebody is trying to insult you by calling you that 888: {NW} Interviewer: Then that's a derogatory name. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And and uh are are insulting names #1 and I want you to # 888: #2 okay # Interviewer: tell me if you know #1 if # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: the name is uh is is like that or if it's just sort of neutral. 888: {NW} Interviewer: you know in which case you know wouldn't be one way or the other or if it if you would use it to be polite. 888: Oh okay. Interviewer: Okay? Okay um first of all do you know of any other names for Chinese or Japanese, people like that? 888: No #1 just Chinese and # Interviewer: #2 okay # Now a lot of these you may not know other names for it because uh see there we've got all the nationalities out here that we could think of that might be all the way across the South 888: {NW} Interviewer: and we don't have them all in San Antonio. 888: Alright. Interviewer: #1 consequently # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: you may not know anybody who's 888: #1 that race. # 888: #2 Alright. # Interviewer: So just tell me no or something. 888: Okay. Interviewer: Um okay uh do you know of any other names for Roman Catholics? 888: Roman Catholics? Interviewer: Yeah 888: No I don't. Interviewer: okay uh what about any other names for Protestants? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh any other names for Jews? 888: Tight. Interviewer: Okay is is that an insulting name? 888: Uh yes Interviewer: #1 okay # 888: #2 it is # Interviewer: okay uh any name other name for a Germans? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh there's a different different kind of German called low Germans. Did you ever you know another name for them? 888: Low Germans? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I don't know I just call them Germans. Interviewer: Okay uh another name for Italians? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay how about Polish people? 888: Yes. Interviewer: What? 888: Polish people? Interviewer: Yeah 888: I say they got a {NW} they got a funny accent and some people call them tied tongue something like that. Interviewer: Called all of them what? 888: Tied tongue. Interviewer: Okay and is that insulting? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. #1 um # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What? 888: I don't have no good names but that's what I guess that's insulting because when you call them that and that's {NS} that's not that's not they name. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: But you know the way they talk you have to give them the name or something. Interviewer: Okay. #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Okay what about Russians? 888: Russian? No. Interviewer: Okay what about Czechoslovakians? 888: Czechoslovakians? No. #1 same name # Interviewer: #2 okay # uh {D: Lithuanians?} 888: Same name. Interviewer: Okay Englishmen? 888: Englishmen? No. Interviewer: okay Irishmen? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. uh Scotsmen? 888: {D: phrase} Royal Scott. Interviewer: Huh? 888: No nothing nothing. Interviewer: Okay uh Frenchmen? 888: Frenchmen? Interviewer: Yeah 888: I don't have I just call them Frenchmen. Interviewer: Okay what about Cajun? 888: Cajun? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I just call them Cajun that's all the names I been hearing and that's all I you know they was over here I would call them something but they're not over in my country. Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Right okay uh Greek? 888: Greece? Did you say Greece? Interviewer: Greek. 888: Oh Greeks No. Interviewer: okay um Scandinavians? 888: Scandinavians uh no. Interviewer: Okay Canadians? 888: no Interviewer: Okay Cubans? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay Puerto Ricans? 888: Puerto Ricans? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I would call them Puerto Ricans they try to act like blacks all the time. Interviewer: Yeah? 888: I would say the others could say they I say try to act like blacks. Interviewer: Okay. #1 Okay uh # 888: #2 some of them # Interviewer: now the next one um people who uh were born in this country but like whose ancestors came from Mexico? #1 Like these kids. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Now do you know any other names for them? 888: They came from Mexico? Interviewer: Well their ancestors did like maybe their grandfathers or somebody but they didn't they were born here. 888: Who would I call them from Mexico or here? Interviewer: From here. 888: Oh I'd say Americans. Interviewer: Okay now you know of any any insulting names for them? 888: Oh uh day niggers day niggers or. Interviewer: What was that? 888: Day niggers. Interviewer: That's a new one I ain't heard that. #1 Okay what would a # 888: #2 Taco eater # Interviewer: What. 888: Taco eater. Taco vendor. Taco vendor. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 888: No that's about all. Interviewer: Okay are those two insulting? The 888: Yes they are ins- they're insulting and which they don't like to hear. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: But you know. Interviewer: Okay um okay I know that one time you called them Mexicans now um is that considered just neutral or is that um is that insulting or 888: What Mexican? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Mexican is insulting they don't Mexicans don't like they just they just they want to be called Mexican. And sometimes you know like I had a friend named {X} junior and we just like he's you know we just like brothers he's family but he act you know he acts black you know. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And sometimes you know he'll call me come here brother you know like that and I say what you want Mexican and he'll say you know man you know we just you know he call me a black boy something like that. #1 and he just # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # 888: you know I call him Mexican. {NW} We don't mind it now we don't get mad at each other because we're used to it and Interviewer: Yeah. 888: he used, my mother, she heard me say that one time and she said don't be saying that you know. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And I told her we always say that to each other you know different words. Interviewer: Okay now let me get this straight is, is Mexican that they don't like to be called that? 888: Mexican. Mexican. Interviewer: Mexican? 888: {NW} Interviewer: Okay but Mexican is okay? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay the the uh 888: Mexican is what they want to be called. Interviewer: Oh. 888: Mexican. Interviewer: Mexican okay. 888: And Mexican they don't want to be called. Interviewer: I get it. Mexican is what they don't want to be called. 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # I I get it. Okay and I if you call them Spanish I know if you call them Spanish what is that #1 is that polite? # 888: #2 Span- # Spanish people? Interviewer: Yeah does it mean 888: #1 That's # Interviewer: #2 the same # 888: that's polite. Interviewer: Okay. #1 What's another word that's polite? # 888: #2 {X} # To call a Mexican? Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # {NW} uh uh all I know is uh brown. Interviewer: Okay okay 888: They're brown. Interviewer: Yeah what do you think about the term um let's see you know you used to hear Latin American? 888: {NW} Interviewer: What do do you hear that anymore? 888: Latin American? Interviewer: {NW} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay what 888: I hear it but what you mean by that? Interviewer: Well who says it? And is it polite or? 888: It's polite. Interviewer: Okay. Okay What about Mexican American? Do you hear that? I mean does anybody say that? 888: It's polite. Interviewer: Okay 888: Mexican Mexican American Interviewer: Okay now back to just plain Mexican would would you consider that to be polite or just neutral? 888: Mexican? Well I could call it Interviewer: Mexican 888: Mexican that's polite. Interviewer: okay okay um If you wanted to find out you know the correct way to say something how would you find out would you listen to people around you or would you would you go look it up in a dictionary or would you ask an English teacher or what would you do? 888: Well I would look it up in the dictionary or I'd find it I was going to school and I had an English teacher I would have asked her. Interviewer: {NW} Okay what do you think about asking people around you or I mean just listening to what people around you are saying? 888: well I they can help too a little bit but sometimes people around you don't know and you gotta ask somebody that has an education. Interviewer: {NW} 888: And you know and put something into school. Interviewer: {NW} um Do you do you think uh do you think you talk different to different people? 888: No I don't I talk the the you know the same way I always talk and words the way words come out that's the way I talk. Interviewer: {NW} What I see I'm thinking like when you talk do you do you talk um different to you like your mother than you would talk to oh say your friends? 888: Yes I'll talk I talk different from from you know from what I would talk to my friends because some of the things I would tell my mother you know it would be more respectful than I would tell my friends. Interviewer: {NW} What for? What do you mean? 888: What do I mean? Interviewer: {NW} 888: Well something like you know that a grown-up you know that you don't want to hear you don't want to say it because it may not be nice to hear from a grown up I mean to hear for with a grown-up want to hear, so I would say something you know that that you know uptight if I were to say it around my mother so I would keep it to myself and tell my friend because me and him is friends and she's an adult. Interviewer: {NW} well um what about not so much what you talk about but just sort of the way you'd say something? 888: {NW} Interviewer: Do you know if that if that'd be different when you talk to your mother from the way you talk to your friends? 888: Well I have more respect for my mother and for my friend you don't you know your friend know that you have respect for him but the things you say you know that don't mean you don't have respect for him but some of the things you say you know that you know like I would say something like this I you know I tell my mother that I might be coming in about 12 o-clock. and I tell my friend I say I might come we might come in about 2 o clock so that's something that you don't want your mother to hear. Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 {NW} # #1 right # Interviewer: #2 right # {NW} 888: Yeah. That's what I mean you know Interviewer: uh what about um you think you talk different to people that you don't know as well you know like a stranger say a new kid at school? #1 Do you talk different to somebody like that than you do for # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: somebody to somebody that's good friends? 888: yes I would I would talk different because I would you know {NW} you know I would #1 try to be myself # Interviewer: #2 wait # okay now what? 888: I would talk differently between a person that I didn't know because a friend the dude that I didn't know you know might don't have the same attitude that I have Interviewer: Yeah 888: so I would you know take it I would come up to him and say my name you know get introduced to each other and you know be you be a friend and nothing else don't try to show yourself off to him. Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 because # that's what nobody you know nobody wants a show off friend to try to show off you know? you just go your usual way and have respect for your first when you first meet him. After you met him and took some you know got to know each other and you had a dinner together or you know really had a good down talk good rap session or something like that then that's the way you know you'll have a talk and you want to say anything that you could say anything you want to then. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: But don't try to go and {NW} impress your friend by trying to get in from your friend. that's what I mean but I would talk different because I would show him that I have you know respect for him by meeting him. I wouldn't show off or nothing. Interviewer: {NW} okay. um What do you think about the way they teach English in school I mean um do you do you think that you talk you know the way that they teach English? Or not? 888: No I don't I don't talk the way they teach English because one reason you know I just got my same you know same you know speech pattern because you know even some people can change it and some can't. I might say a few words that's not right for English but that's the way I pronounce them you know and I try to change in ways and habit I can change it you know but you know sometimes I just can't change it. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Like I might say uh he did this you know that's not somebody might say that's not how you you know you shouldn't say that because that's not the right English you're supposed to say. Interviewer: {NW} 888: And they might say who's your English teacher you know or you know you just tell them you know you got an English teacher but your English teacher she's trying to give you an education but that don't mean you know she you know go wrong sometimes. You know everybody makes mistakes you know saying something. Interviewer: Yeah well do uh tell me this what about the English teacher do you think do you think she makes mistakes? 888: Yes she makes mistakes but the mistakes she makes {NW} costs her because she's getting paid for it but the children when the children tell her that you know it's gonna it might hurt her but you know because she done had her education and we're trying to get our education. Interviewer: {NW} 888: and I wouldn't say I don't see too many teachers making them mistakes because they had you know they know what to say and stuff. #1 And they # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # 888: had speech patterns how to say things Interviewer: have you had black English teachers or white English teachers? Or both? 888: Well uh have I ever heard have I had a ever had a black English teacher? Interviewer: {NW} 888: No I never had a black English teacher. Interviewer: They were all white? 888: uh some white and some Mexican. Interviewer: {NW} tell me okay between the white ones and the Mexican uh are they different? Do they kind of you know they sort of teach different ways? 888: #1 uh they do # Interviewer: #2 the Mexican? # 888: they do teach different I had an English teacher this year and she didn't never try to you know she didn't we didn't really go over English you know we went over English but she didn't try to teach you how to talk because some of the words they don't pronounce you know they don't try to learn you how to talk in English they try to you know give you work in English to in book work you know they don't never learn you how to talk you know they just tell you how to tell you what to do in lessons and stuff like that. And the teacher I did have this year I didn't dig her too much because you know if you try in school people should you know you don't want nothing given to you but they should at least pass you because you tried. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And this teacher she wouldn't you know she'll fail a lot of people cause she didn't like I guess I don't know I guess she's prejudice or something. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And that's all I can say. Interviewer: Was she white? 888: Huh? Interviewer: Was she white? 888: I said I guess she's prejudice Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 what you mean # Interviewer: Was she white or was she Mexican? 888: Oh she was white. Interviewer: {NW} Okay um 888: I never did have a black English teacher. Interviewer: Hmm that's funny It seems like you would have learned {D: to a black} in somewhere 888: Yeah this all I we had a black substitute but not no black English teacher. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: #1 You'll see # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: some but you know I never had none. Interviewer: {NW} Yeah 888: I guess I'm unlucky sometimes. Interviewer: {NW} Okay you might not believe this um would you count from one to twenty for me? Slowly. A fair count real slow. 888: {NW} One to twenty? Interviewer: {NW} 888: {NW} Interviewer: It's not to see if you can count. I know you can count. Just to see how you pronounce it. 888: one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty. Interviewer: Okay and three times nine is what? 888: Three times nine? Interviewer: {NW} 888: {NW} Timetables now twenty seven? Interviewer: Okay uh Three times ten is 888: Thirty. Interviewer: Okay and four times ten. 888: Forty. Interviewer: Okay and ten times ten is 888: Seven times ten is seventy. Interviewer: Okay and ten times ten? 888: One hundred. Interviewer: and ten times a hundred? 888: Ten times a hundred? Ten times a hundred? Interviewer: {NW} 888: Two hundred I guess. Interviewer: No what's just what's just the next bigger after a hundred there 888: Oh Interviewer: After hundreds there are 888: Thousand? Interviewer: Huh? 888: Thousand? Interviewer: okay and then after thousand there's 888: Millions? Interviewer: okay um okay say there was a line of people you know line waiting in line and the last guy in line was the eleventh person. 888: {NW} Interviewer: So the guy in front of him would be the 888: Twelfth. Interviewer: uh in front of him. 888: Oh. Interviewer: The other way, he'd 888: #1 The # Interviewer: #2 be # 888: eleventh? Interviewer: Okay the eleventh and then the 888: Twelfth. Interviewer: No I'm okay go backwards. 888: the eleventh and then the tenth then the ninth then the eighth then the seventh then the sixth then the fifth then the fourth then the third then the second then the first. Interviewer: Okay okay uh let's see sometimes you feel like good might come just a little bit at a time but bad luck comes all what? 888: Um all bad luck comes sometimes. Interviewer: Okay but it comes all at 888: One time. #1 one time # Interviewer: #2 okay or another way of saying # saying one time would be all at 888: One time. Interviewer: Another way of saying it. 888: uh bad luck would come at Interviewer: all at 888: at a time Interviewer: Just one word. 888: It what good luck would come. Interviewer: All at 888: Sometimes. Interviewer: {NW} #1 {NW} # 888: #2 all the time # Interviewer: okay uh if you if you go to town two times a week you'd say you go what a week? 888: I go to town two two times a week. Interviewer: Okay two times a week ago would be the same as saying 888: I go to town two every week. Interviewer: Okay or uh {NW} {NS} okay say you got uh say you got paid ten dollars for some job okay? 888: {NW} Interviewer: And then the next year you did it you got twenty dollars. And so you say the second year I got paid what as much? 888: Twice as much. Interviewer: Okay now okay if you go to town twice a week but if you just went one time you'd say you only went 888: Once a week. Interviewer: what? 888: Once a week. Interviewer: Okay uh would you name the months of the year? 888: What do you months of the year? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: uh October November December February June July August September Interviewer: #1 okay # 888: #2 June # Interviewer: um 888: March April Interviewer: What what's the first month in a year? 888: October. Interviewer: Um. 888: Oh the first month? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: September. Interviewer: {NW} New year's day comes on what the first? Comes right after December? 888: New Year's day? Interviewer: Yeah 888: um let's see when is New Year's day? Interviewer: Jan 888: January? Interviewer: Okay okay and uh let's see you know when Texas independence day is? 888: Texas independence day? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh what's right before June? the month right before June? 888: The month before June? Interviewer: {NW} 888: {NW} I get these months always changed {X} Interviewer: I I get them mixed up too. 888: Okay uh May May. Interviewer: Okay And right before May comes 888: March. Interviewer: Okay uh and there's another one in there it starts with an A. 888: Oh April I mean April. Interviewer: #1 okay # 888: #2 April comes before # Interviewer: Okay um let's see I can't remember if you said next month's what's next month? 888: After April? Interviewer: no I mean okay this is July right? 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: #1 okay so then # 888: #2 August # Interviewer: What? 888: August. Interviewer: Okay uh I think that gets them all okay and and just name the days of the week for me. 888: Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Friday. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 888: #2 Saturday # Interviewer: go back by that slow again. 888: Oh Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Interviewer: Okay and what's the sabbath? What do you what is the sabbath? 888: The what? Interviewer: Sabbath? You know that word? 888: Sabbath no. Interviewer: okay. um If you meet something somebody about eleven oh clock in the daytime you know you you'd say what? 888: Eleven oh clock in the day? Interviewer: uh Yeah. Just to say hello you'd say 888: Good morning. Interviewer: Okay and uh 888: {NW} Interviewer: What do you call the part of the day after you've stopped saying good morning? 888: Good evening. Interviewer: Okay. #1 uh # 888: #2 good night # Interviewer: When does evening start? 888: When does evening start? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I'll say around about twelve. Interviewer: At noon? 888: No twelve in twelve in in the day. Interviewer: At okay when you eat lunch is that? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: uh Okay how long does evening how {NS} long does evening last? 888: How long does evening last? Interviewer: Yeah lasts until when? 888: I'd say about six oh clock. Interviewer: Okay. And then after after evening you have what? 888: Night night time. Interviewer: Okay. That starts about six oh clock? 888: Yes. Interviewer: #1 okay. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 um # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 what would you say # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you're saying goodbye # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you leave somebody's house after dark? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 888: #1 What would I say? # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # 888: #1 Goodnight. # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # 888: #1 Goodnight. # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # Interviewer: #1 Okay. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 would you ever say that if you were saying hello? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: No. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 um # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you started to work before # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: daylight you say we started to work before sun {X} 888: Sunrise. Interviewer: Okay and okay um and when the sun goes down you'd call it sun 888: Set. Interviewer: Okay uh will you say the whole word? 888: Sundown sunset or sundown. Interviewer: Okay. um You might say we got to work a little late this morning because the sun had already 888: Came up? Interviewer: Okay and um Yesterday it what? A bout the same time? 888: Came up the same time? Interviewer: Okay um another word for come up would be 888: Rised up. Interviewer: okay okay and let's see let's try another um you say this morning we got up the sun had already {X} 888: Sunrise. Interviewer: I mean the sun had already what what'd you say before you said rised up 888: Sunset. Interviewer: Okay you said rised up though right? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay so if you were gonna use that expression or that kind of expression that sentence you'd say the sun had already what? 888: Rose up? Interviewer: Okay uh and yesterday it about the same time? 888: Rised up. Interviewer: Okay and the sun this morning I saw the sun 888: Rise up. Interviewer: Okay uh let's see okay today is Wednesday 888: #1 Right. # Interviewer: #2 right? # Okay so uh Tuesday would be 888: Wednes- what you mean #1 Tuesday # Interviewer: #2 I mean # Okay Wednesday is today 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: S o Tuesday is 888: Tuesday? Interviewer: Well yeah but 888: What comes after Tuesday? Interviewer: No what uh it the day before today would be no matter what day it was you'd say it was 888: Oh Wednesday? Interviewer: Okay Thursday uh Thursday is what? 888: Thursday is Thursday. Interviewer: Okay but um 888: is a day Thursday is a day {NS} Interviewer: Okay Thursday um Wednesday is today. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Thursday is 888: Tomorrow. Interviewer: Okay Tuesday was 888: Tomorrow. Yesterday. Interviewer: Alright. that's alright uh okay if somebody came #1 If somebody came to see you # Auxiliary: #2 Five oh clock # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 and it wasn't # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 it didn't # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 they came on a Sunday but it wasn't last Sunday # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: It's the Sunday before? 888: {NW} Interviewer: You'd say they came when? 888: Last Sunday. Interviewer: Okay but I think you meant three days ago you don't mean that you mean a week before that. 888: Oh {X} Interviewer: #1 so you'd say they came # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 888: #1 The week before # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Sunday. Interviewer: What? 888: The the last week Interviewer: #1 before Sunday. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NW} could you say that again? 888: The week {X} wait let me see the week before Auxiliary: #1 Sunday? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 they're not # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Three days {NS} three days late three days after Sunday? Interviewer: #1 no. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 They came on Sunday. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: {NW} Interviewer: #1 They're not last Sunday # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 but the Sunday before that. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 Sunday before # Interviewer: #2 so how # would you tell me that? 888: They came Sunday before that Interviewer: #1 Sunday before what? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: They came Sunday before #1 I don't understand that # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: How how would you say You have to tell me somehow or the other. 888: {NW} They came Sunday before last Sunday? Interviewer: Okay okay uh okay now if somebody was coming #1 Not next Sunday # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 but the Sunday after that # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 Oh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: How would you tell me that? 888: They came Sunday before the Interviewer: No they're gonna come. 888: oh Interviewer: They haven't come yet. 888: They came Saturday before the last Sunday? Interviewer: No no no okay let's get this straight okay. Okay they're going to come they haven't come come yet okay? 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: #1 alright. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And they're gonna come on Sunday. 888: {NW} Interviewer: but they're not coming next Sunday. 888: #1 Oh they just # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: They coming this Sunday but not next Sunday. Interviewer: {NW} They're coming okay in in another 888: oh they come go ahead. Interviewer: What? In another what? Three or four days it's going to be Sunday right? 888: {NW} Interviewer: Alright. Well they're not coming in three or four days. They're coming in like eleven days. 888: {NW} Interviewer: See what I mean? see they're not coming next Sunday they're coming the one after that. 888: #1 They not coming this Sunday but they coming the # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 next Sunday. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 is there another way you say that? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 888: They coming the Sunday before next Sunday. {X} Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Hey cut that out boy {NS} Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: If somebody stayed from about the first of the month to about the fifteenth of the month #1 you'd say they stayed about # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: how long? Auxiliary: {X} 888: You say if they came for the first of the month to the fifteenth of the month? Interviewer: #1 Yeah that's how long they stayed. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 From the first to the fifteenth. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: How many weeks? {X} Interviewer: Yeah how long would you say that was? 888: Three weeks. Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you wanted to know what # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you wanted to know the time # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 how would you ask somebody? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 What time do you got? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What? 888: #1 What time is it? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What would you say again? 888: Huh? Interviewer: If you want to know the time you'd say 888: #1 I'd say what time is it right now. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 you have the time # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 um # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 okay if it is # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay nineteen # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 nineteen seventy-four was last year # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 nineteen seventy-four # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 was last year # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 and nineteen seventy five is # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: This year. Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 and um # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 if a kid has just had his third birthday you'd say he is # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 how old? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Three years old. Interviewer: Okay and if something happened on this day {NS} last year you say it happened exactly 888: The same year. Interviewer: No not it happened last year. 888: Oh it happened last year? Interviewer: On this day. So you say it happened exactly 888: The same day {C: Reduced audio quality in previous line} #1 The same year day # Interviewer: #2 Okay # Okay the same day but how would you let me know that it you know was last year? 888: How would I let you know it was the same same Interviewer: It was last year. 888: #1 it happened the same year before # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 before last? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 888: It happened the same year before last. Interviewer: Is that how you say it? 888: #1 I just say I'm talking about # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: It happened the #1 the # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 before # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 the year before last # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay the year before last would be # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 when # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 how many # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: Let's start over on this. #1 Try to ignore them # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay if something happened # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: This is July the 23rd. okay if something uh happened July 23rd last year you'd say it happened exactly a {X} 888: The same day and the same year Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 you might look up at the # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 sky # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 and say # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 I don't like the look of those black # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Clouds. Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 and uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay and # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 you look up at the # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 at the sky in the morning and it's a clear sky # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 you know everything # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 no clouds # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 you'd say # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 well I believe we're going to have a # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Nice day today. Interviewer: Okay and if it's an opposite kind of day and it there's lots of clouds and you'd say well I bet we're going to have a 888: Beautiful day. Interviewer: #1 no # 888: #2 oh what'd you say what # Interviewer: opposite kind of day. 888: Oh a bad day. Interviewer: #1 okay # 888: #2 Yeah # Interviewer: um {NS} if you'd been doing something for a long time you might say I've been doing that for quite a 888: While. Interviewer: Huh? 888: Quite a while. Interviewer: Okay um okay the midway between ten oh clock and eleven oh clock you'd say it's 888: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 midway between eleven oh clock and what? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 between ten oh clock and eleven oh clock. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Oh it's almost Interviewer: So it's exactly midway. 888: #1 mid it's almost # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: it's between midway it's almost you said between ten oh clock and eleven oh clock. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: and halfway half an hour till eleven oh clock. {X} Interviewer: Okay how would you say that? 888: It's thirty minutes 'til eleven oh clock. Interviewer: okay. And another way of saying it might be half 888: Past past eleven. Interviewer: Okay would you say the whole thing? 888: Half past eleven. Interviewer: okay and then if it was fifteen minutes later you'd say it 888: fifteen minutes past eleven oh clock. Interviewer: uh it's fifteen minutes later than eleven thirty. 888: oh. it's fifteen minutes before it's after eleven thirty? Interviewer: Yeah after eleven thirty. 888: oh fifteen fifteen minutes after eleven thirty. Interviewer: okay but you probably wouldn't say it that way. You'd probably tell me something else 888: um it's forty minutes forty-five minutes after eleven thirty Interviewer: after what? 888: eleven thirty Interviewer: forty-five minutes after 888: Fifteen minutes after eleven thirty. Interviewer: okay okay but probably you wouldn't say that if it you know if the clock was like so so when you go is going like this well that's not a very good picture okay okay there's eleven thirty right here #1 okay # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: and as it moves all around another fifteen minutes you'd probably say it's 888: Half oh half past eleven thirty. Interviewer: {NW} okay or 888: Fifteen minutes past eleven thirty. Interviewer: Okay would you ever say a quarter? anything? 888: Oh quarter 'til eleven thirty Interviewer: okay a quarter till 888: eleven Interviewer: okay yup okay um let's see Auxiliary: {X} no Interviewer: uh okay say that the it's been a nice day you know but the clouds they're beginning to get thicker and thicker and thicker and you look like it it looks like it might rain but you know it it's getting thicker the clouds are getting worse and worse and you'd say gosh the weather is Really getting badder 888: okay and uh if it's just the opposite you'd say the weather is Interviewer: Getting real good 888: Okay Interviewer: Getting 888: Or another way of saying that might be Interviewer: getting sunshine? 888: {NW} and it would you know happen gradually the clouds were beginning to go away you'd say the weather is Interviewer: Clearing up. okay uh if if you get a real heavy rain say you've had about an inch of rain in an hour 888: {NW} Interviewer: you'd say you had a real Auxiliary: {NW} 888: Shower. Interviewer: okay or anything else you might use? 888: uh sprinkle? Interviewer: uh but hard. Real hard. 888: oh. If it really rained or what? Is it just shower {NS} Interviewer: rained hard. 888: Oh it really poured down hard. Interviewer: Okay. uh okay suppose there's a lot of lightning so on with the wind and the #1 rain you'd say that was a what? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Bad storm. Interviewer: Okay or any certain other kind of storm? 888: well no Interviewer: okay um you might say okay say you had some uh but you had some clothes up on the line out you know out drying on the line and you came out and they weren't there you'd say well the wind must have 888: Blowed them off. Interviewer: okay and uh {NS} uh I'll hang them back up and I hope the wind will not 888: Blow them off Interviewer: Mm-kay. And uh yesterday the wind 888: Blew them off. Interviewer: What? 888: Blew them off. Interviewer: okay um okay so wind is coming okay uh let's see what direction is that? 888: uh Interviewer: Approximately? 888: Where? Interviewer: That way. 888: This going this way? Interviewer: Yeah 888: South Interviewer: okay if the wind's coming from that direction you'd say the wind is what? 888: Coming south Interviewer: What? 888: Coming from south. Interviewer: okay um a wind halfway between the south and the west you'd call a 888: Between the south and the west? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I guess the wind I'd call it the even even wind storm I guess Interviewer: okay but uh does it have a what if it came between the south and the east? What would you call it? 888: I just say just coming from the east and the south that's all Interviewer: okay and what if it came between the north the Yeah the north and the east? 888: North and the east? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I just say it's coming from both directions. Interviewer: Okay what about the north and the west? #1 Same thing? # 888: #2 {D: Both directions eah.} # Interviewer: Okay. um if it's raining but it's not raining very hard you know just barely raining? 888: Yeah Interviewer: you'd say it what 888: Just a sprinkle. Interviewer: Okay 888: Shower. Interviewer: And if it's a little lighter than a sprinkle what would that be? 888: Drizzle. Interviewer: Okay and heavier than a sprinkle would be a what? 888: Pour. Interviewer: What? 888: Pour down. Interviewer: okay um Okay something lighter than a drizzle you know where the drops drops just kind of hang in the air you know you look out and maybe can hardly see across the street what would you call that? Auxiliary: {X} 888: Repeat that again? Interviewer: A few of the droplets little bitty drops of water just tend to kind of hang in the air. {X} It's like you're in a cloud. 888: {NW} Interviewer: What do you call that? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay one word is mist but another one might be what? 888: Drops? Interviewer: Okay sometimes you hear it on the weather report they hear they say they caution drivers because they say well there's there's going to be a lot of {NW} out this morning so you know you better be careful because you can't see when you're driving in it. 888: Fog. Interviewer: What? 888: Fog. Interviewer: Okay and if there's a lot of fog out that day you say this is a real {NW} day. 888: Messy day. Interviewer: uh Use the same word. 888: Foggy day. Interviewer: Okay. um Okay if you if we don't get any rain for a long long long time you say we've having a 888: {NW} uh Dry weather. Interviewer: Okay any other words you might use? 888: uh Hot weather. Interviewer: okay um {NW} If the wind if the wind has been real gentle and especially getting harder and harder and harder you'd say the wind is 888: The wind is harder. Interviewer: Okay or it's beginning to 888: Get harder. Interviewer: Okay and if the wind has been blowing real hard all day but it's gradually getting easier and easier and softer and softer you'd say 888: The wind is clearing up little by little. Interviewer: The wind is what? 888: Clearing up little by little. Interviewer: Okay um if you got out in the morning and you find it's cold but it doesn't feel bad you know it feels kind of good #1 this kind of cold. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: You'd say gee this morning is kind of 888: Cool. Interviewer: Okay um if it was cold enough {X} last night to kill the tomatoes and the flowers you'd say last night we had a 888: Bad frost. Interviewer: Okay and um you might say it was so cold last night that the lake 888: Froze. Interviewer: Okay and if it gets much colder the river might 888: Freeze. Interviewer: Okay and it had what before I got there? 888: Frozen before I got there. Interviewer: It what? 888: {NW} Frozen before I got there. Interviewer: Okay. uh speaking of rooms how tall they are the height you know you'd say oh most rooms are about eight 888: Feet. Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: okay um I might say did you {NW} that noise? 888: Did I did I hear that noise. Interviewer: Okay and you might say yeah I 888: Heard that noise. Interviewer: Okay and you might say but I'm not scared because I have 888: Heard it. Interviewer: Okay um I might ask you if you know a person and you might say no I don't know him but I have 888: Seen him. Interviewer: Okay or I've 888: Heard him. Interviewer: Okay and um say a friend came to town and somebody else you know saw him and and uh they saw you and they said hey have you seen old so and so yet and you'd say no I 888: I didn't. Interviewer: What? 888: Didn't I didn't Interviewer: okay {NS} and uh {NS} they might say well has your brother seen him yet and you'd say no he 888: Didn't. Interviewer: Okay and uh I might say does your brother like ice cream and you'd say yeah he 888: He do. Interviewer: Okay and uh I might say you don't smoke cigars but he 888: Does. Interviewer: Okay um you might uh give somebody a choice of something and if he would take either one he would tell you he {NW} which one you give him. {NS} 888: I would give him I would give him the other one? Interviewer: No {NS} okay you give somebody his choice 888: {NW} Interviewer: and he said ah give me either one I 888: Don't care. Interviewer: Okay um Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: uh if I asked you um when are you going to I don't know say you were say you're going to Houston today okay #1 and I'll say # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: when are you going and you'd say I 888: I'm going the next day. Interviewer: Okay. and if I went with you you'd say 888: You're going the next day too. Interviewer: Okay or another word for the two of us you'd say 888: We're going we're going the next day. Interviewer: Okay and if they're going you'd say 888: They're going the next day Interviewer: Okay um I might uh if if somebody Okay if a kid was just learning to dress himself the mother brings him the clothes and says here what? 888: Here you go. Interviewer: Okay or something your clothes. 888: Put on your clothes. Interviewer: Okay uh Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: If you came in and gave somebody some cake 888: {NW} Interviewer: you didn't give me any {NS} I might say well {NW} get any 888: Well you didn't give you didn't give me none. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 You didn't give me none. # Interviewer: or uh I might ask you a question I might say um something didn't get any? 888: It's uh is it is I'm going to get any? Interviewer: What 888: Is I'm going to get any? Interviewer: Okay um {NS} I might ask you if you think uh certain person is going to be elected okay and you'd say no I don't 888: Think s- Interviewer: Think so but something something many people who don't who do think so. 888: {NW} Interviewer: What would you put? 888: I don't think you should vote on him or what Interviewer: do you um You might tell a boy send your dog over here I just want to pet him I 888: I um Interviewer: I something hurt going to hurt him 888: I'm not going to hurt him? Interviewer: Okay um Say you have an argument with somebody you want me to agree with you you want me to take your side. 888: {NW} Interviewer: You might turn to me and say well I am right 888: Ain't I? Interviewer: Okay and uh if somebody thanked you for a ride into town you might say aw don't mention it we {NW} going in anyway. 888: Don't mention it we was still going in anyway. Interviewer: Okay um if you were talking about the good old days everything used to be better and you know all that you'd say {NW} the good old days 888: Oh the good old days. Interviewer: Okay uh anything else? Nothing? 888: Those good old days? Interviewer: Okay um I just can't I might say think did you just slam that door and you'd say no it {NW} 888: Slammed itself. Interviewer: No or no it {NW} 888: No I didn't. Interviewer: Okay or another way of saying the very same thing you say no it 888: Slammed itself. Interviewer: #1 no we're not talking about the door we're talking about you # 888: #2 no # Oh. Interviewer: Talking about yourself no it 888: I slammed it. Interviewer: It {NW} 888: Slammed itself. Interviewer: Me or I. 888: it slammed itself Interviewer: #1 okay uh # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Could you say it wasn't me or Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: #1 it wasn't I or # 888: #2 oh # me um No I didn't slam the door. Interviewer: Okay which if you had to choose between it wasn't me and it wasn't I which one would you choose? 888: It wasn't I. Interviewer: Okay.