888
Packed them.
They was really really heavy.
Heavy.
Packed them.
Watch out.
Touch it.
Get me a kn- get me a knife.
Catch it.
Caught it.
Caught anything
Here.
I'll wait for you.
Give me another chance.
Uh mood.
Good mood.
Get him.
Wait 'til I get him.
Oh
{D: Lizard piss}
{NS}
Get rid of him.
He
he seem like he know what was going on.
Swiped
my pencil.
Somebody uh
stole the pencil.
Now I- repeat it please?
Remember.
Didn't remember.
Wrote him a letter.
Wrote me a letter.
Write him a letter.
A letter.
Answer.
Write on the back of that.
The name.
Address.
Endorse the letter.
Who was it what?
{C: mumbling}
Oh.
Who is something.
Who-who was it that learned you something new?
Who was that that learned you something new?
I-I would pretty soon.
Oh
I will soon.
Tattle-tell.
No.
Pull them up.
The plants.
What'd you say- repeat that please?
Uh-huh.
Pull it up.
You said uh colorful stuff.
Flowers.
Toy.
No.
No.
Mm-hmm.
I just
{X}
I just
{X}
just in time.
You bought me for Christmas.
Gave to her.
I will give it back to you when I've finished it.
Gave me so many other good books.
Because you keep- because you you have given me so many other books.
Rained.
Pour I mean
Rained down.
When it something to rain?
Started raining.
Ran all the way home.
People
{X}
But people
Ran.
I mean whatcha say?
Run.
No.
{D:I mean}
would you repeat that again?
{X}
On time.
Run.
Walked a mile.
Ran a mile.
everyday
Oh.
They ran a mile every week.
They have ran a mile every day.
Where is he from?
Where does he uh
Born in?
Where do where
do he come from?
He came- he came in on the train last night.
{X}
Oh.
He has uh
{NS}
came to our town every month.
see.
I seen her outside a few minutes ago.
We have seen a just a lot of little of you
{X}
Oh.
Oh.
Blocked off.
Blocked out.
They got the road closed.
the pavement's all up.
Ate up.
Bitten up.
Bitten up.
Tore up.
Put it on.
Can you move
{X}
Repeat it?
Can you do that?
She did it.
Did it all my- did it all my life.
Okay
I have did it all my life.
Nothing.
Something.
Such things.
Been there forever.
Something in there.
I mean
It's a
{X}
It's all dirty.
Say it again.
It's been there forever.
Yes.
Often do it.
Always do it. He always do it.
Ever since.
Every since.
On purpose.
Ask him. Ask the other person.
Asked him.
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Asked me that.
Fight.
Fight.
Fight.
{D: fought}
Fought.
Fought.
Stabbed him with it.
Who drew that?
Pull it up.
Another word for pull?
Um
{NS}
jack.
Okay.
Okay.
Well uh they got Alamo Heights and that's another part of the city. Alamo Heights is not
it's-it's in San Antonio but it's not the city.
It's nearby here but it's not San Antonio it's another you know
another city.
Eh
Yes.
It's not you know the city.
Well
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White folks.
White and colored.
I say white and colored.
I say rich people because
my teacher
live over there too.
And I got a couple of friends that live over there.
He's not rich but
he's average you know. He's average.
And
they got they got Bexar county.
That's that's us right here.
Bexar county.
And then they got
what's that little?
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They got Manwood. You heard of Manwood? You know where Manwood at?
They got Manwood. It's supposed to be San Antonio but
some people don't call it San Antonio. It's a different
section of you know places where things is going.
It's not at like the city limits- it's not out of like the city- city limits
of Texas.
Well mostly
spanish to colored people
and
I'd say you know average average.
Then uh
mostly that's you know like controlled by uh different police like Olmos Park police. They're not
controlled by San Antonio police.
They got different you know fire departments and stuff like that.
City hall.
Yeah you know they got Alamo Heights school. The one I was telling you about you know that's
out of the city limits but it's close by here.
And
it's called Alamo Heights. Mostly
all white people go there.
And it's a pretty big school and it's
they pretty you know strict on the rules over there.
And
that's about all I can tell you about it.
Just a section but
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The poorest people?
{NW}
That's a good question. The poorest people
they stay all around in Kenwood where I am right now.
We're not poor but
right now we- we still looking for a house see we're moving
soon and
they building- they're supposed to be building our house
well this is not the poor area but
I'll tell you where the poor area is.
That's way back over on west side.
{NS}
Like the slum.
This area right here most everybody working here lives in Kenwood right here.
This is not the poor area.
But you know the way things they don't want to bring things up in here you know
it could go up you know but they
tight on the money now
you know the people that help- help some people but
but we don't we're moving- see they're building our house but they're taking their time building it see
well had they bought our land
and our house
cuz we had bought the house that we're living in right now.
See they're building new houses for everybody you know.
And right now we're still- they're building it but they haven't finished yet.
Mexicans.
Puerto Ricans.
and
Well I think they live in SORTA like the I say Mexican community because
they don't
Puerto Ricans you know some of them act like blacks and some of them you know don't because
you can't tell them sometimes apart because they almost look like they're black but they're really Puerto Rican.
And
the Mexicans
they live with the
they live with different societies like
I think Mexicans live with
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{NS}
well I can't say the other names that also live with them.
All I know is that a lot of them come from Mexico and taking these jobs in San Antonio.
The main offices?
All right I'll call I'll tell you the big banks. San Antonio Savings
And Alamo Bank
and that's the biggest offices I know of.
San antonio- it's downtown on the corner of Travis or Travis right across the street from Travis Park.
The oldest and the biggest?
Well I would tell you the biggest department stores is Joske's and out there at the mall
You go out there towards the mall and you can go and find anything you want.
This one place you just start to walking you don't have to
you know go on the outside
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you know just a plain mall.
Yeah right out go straight out San Pedro.
I came out there from the other day.
The oldest stores? The department clothing stores?
Well oldest that I can think of is
The oldest biggest store.
I think the oldest I could say is Temple.
That's down town on Houston.
They've been in business a long time.
An outsider might not recognize where I live at right now?
Yes it wouldn't be a name but somebody wouldn't know because
the reason I say that because
we got names for the whole
whole you know
the whole section over here.
And other names like Lynwood and I told you about like Lynwood that's a section about like Kenwood.
But whites you know whites and spanish
Mexicans and a few whites stay over there in Lynwood and a couple blacks
friends of mine
and
somebody coming from out of town and they don't know the name and they get it mixed up with Kenwood they
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Laurelwood. There's another one called Laurelwood.
Laurelwood is back that way.
Going back this way toward Hildebrandt yeah.
No that's
Going towards west.
Who lives there?
It's mostly white people live there. That's where rich white people live.
Upper class rich people.
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Are they mixed in with the white community?
Are you trying say it's just black all black?
{X}
No there's no bank in San Antonio by all blacks.
Yes I think so.
Maybe
They wouldn't be all they wouldn't be all they wouldn't own nothing but they'd be all together
{X}
in on with the white people.
by working there.
Black people work
together with white people because they don't own the bank but they work for it.
I see- I know a lot of people who work for it but
black people work for the bank but they don't own it.
Well they not in one place down in San Antonio they're all over town.
They got the San Antonio Savings down there. That's where I keep my money at.
And they got Northeast Savings and then they got
Merchant Bank down there at the mall out there.
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Then they got
the new bank they built Alamo Bank.
Then they got another san antonio savings over there on commerce.
There's a lot of banks. They got
{X}
{NS}
That's- that's a tough question.
Well uh all I can say that
the white people
right now we used to live around a lot of white people up in
remember when I told you that we lived in Linwood.
And then we moved
and we stay up there with white people.
And
mostly white people's off to theyself.
And
{NS}
the black and the spanish sometimes together
but it's all mixed up I mean you know in this area but
mostly whites towards going towards San Pedro they off to theyself.
And the blacks some of the blacks is off to theyself.
So the spanish people is off to theyself.
So are Puerto Ricans and
or any groups.
But
they all mixed in different neighborhoods because they most people come from Mexico here.
Taking over these you know jobs taking ours.
Most most of them that live together?
Oh they rich. They got money. All blacks I'm not trying to say all blacks is poor
Some
blacks is rich.
They're they same bracket.
Not some people but.
Yeah same bracket. Go ahead.
Not very wealthy because if they was wealthy they wouldn't just move into any kind of neighborhood.
They wouldn't move in right in the inner ci- you know any kind of neighborhood without
they had good money they would move somewhere that
they wanted to be ag- with their own people.
Well see mostly people that move in with different groups of the races
I mean they they don't have to move but they have to move you know
Because of the money.
You know if they didn't have they had enough money to get a place a real nice place
they move off where they own people live.
It wouldn't be no problem.
The richest people?
I'm going to tell you where the richest people live in San Antonio
It's in Terrell Hills.
Terrell Hills
And Pecan Valley.
{NW}
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Terrell Hills?
It's going st- straight out.
Yeah going straight out it's it's going way you you going to take, say you take the San Pedro all the way out
And then you should run into Terrell Hills if you keep straight.
After. It's way it's kinda out.
In the Pecan Valley
You know where the Pecan Valley is don't you?
It's back out that way.
Yeah.
Well it's past downtown. And it's going t- no I said I said Terrell Hills is going toward the east.
It's a big community.
Now we right now we could move way out but we don't want to move way out because
it's all the jobs is located in this area right here see
you move somewhere out and you got to come way back over her you know
taking a bus or
driving you know you'd be saving a lot of money if you could just stay in the section that you can work and get a good job.
Because most of it- this is right now this is where the jobs at on the north side of town.
Like I work at Trinity University. It's a
Trinity University. It's right over there. I can walk over there to work if I want to.
Cuz it's close by my house.
Now if I was living over on the other side of town I would have to
take the bus or ride my cycle.
Which
I be burning a lot of gas.
So
that's why right now
we trying to- we having a house built
but you know this development agency they take their time about doing it.
Because they doing a lot of people like that.
See they building Kenwood up. I wouldn't say it's poor
but they building it up. You ha- you haven't seen the new some of the new houses they build out here have you?
No you- right here this part is the Spanish Mexican group round this part right here.
Black part is over that way.
Over there on Main.
Over there towards Main.
This is the Spanish the Spanish Kenwood part.
Landmarks?
Well uh the Alamo.
Is that what you
talking about?
Okay the Alamo the HemisFair HemisFair Tower uh
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Oh the Alamo. You know where the alamo is down on alamo
street?
They come to see that because that's one of the things that
some people have never seen before.
And then they go over to the HemisFair tower
to see the HemisFair tower because they've never been way up high.
Because they don't see too many tall buildings like that
Yeah
Other thing is
they come to see
how San Antonio is really built.
Yeah they come to brackenridge park because
Brackenridge Park is about
I wouldn't say the largest park in San Antonio but I just that's the only park that I know that
people will go to more often because of its
everything is mostly happening at Brackenridge Park.
Yeah and now they come to it to the zoo.
Course the only people in
You know
out of state.
Anything else besides Brackenridge Park?
No just Brackenridge Park.
And the Brackenridge Zoo.
Yeah they got Comanche Park they got
Comanche Park
Comanche park is way out there.
Towards actually you got have
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way out there towards
W- W- White Road.
And they got Olmos Park
which people can't go to Olmos Park right now because they running the express way
through here going to Olmos Street. You know where Olmos Street at don't you?
It's over there by my you know where that church at over there on
{X}
{X}
church. You see
{X}
Right that street run right there they
going straight up one across the ri- like they're going to cross the river. They building
an express way all the way through.
Going across the stadium.
Here the other people come
And you know they they really can't help right now the parks
they they tore the old park up on the
Cuz they running the express way through there.
And
they got another park called
Lakeview yeah Lakeview Park Lakeview.
And that's all I can tell you.
No.
Flying home from New York?
On the airport.
Might be Kennedy Airport. I'm not sure.
Oh the airport here?
I couldn't- I know I- I know where the airport is but I don't know the name of it but
I never ride the plane cuz I don't want to get on one.
It's right over there but I don't know the name of it.
I call it the northside airport.
Coming from Houston?
Well I would probably take
the Seguini road
and
think it's
{D:I H ten}
something like that.
Not I-H ten no.
Highway ninety.
What's the difference from
I-H ten
or something like that?
Highway?
Well I guess it's a different interstate
{X}
that's a different intersection between
the highway.
Different be- section between the highways.
{X}
We was coming in last night
I think it was highway nine we came in and then we hit
some kind of little then we hit randolph road.
And then we came over here.
Next thing I know.
Rest area.
{X}
Rest area is is
what would I call it? I'd just say rest area.
I'd call it
Snack bar.
What do you call it?
The line ones or the stripes?
Strips.
Splits the side roads strips.
I call them dots.
Dots.
I call them dots.
D-O-T-R dots I guess. Dot
D-O something like that. I don't know how you
Yeah in in a line. I don't know what y'all call them but that's what I call them.
I don't really call them that neither but I just give them a name. That's what everybody else you know
they don't really use it. They don't ask- never asks me what you call them
They look like dots to me because they round and in the street they look like dots.
Some call them dots some call them dots
What would I call it? I would call it nothing. I don't know a name for it.
Unless it's no I don't have a name for that.
The intersection.
Are you trying to say that when another road meets with each other you don't have to stop?
Uh-huh.
One way.
I would just say
I'd just say drive on and that.
The name of the place.
Oh yeah.
The oncoming traffic yields to you like you're getting off.
And when you're getting off
{X}
the high- express way whatever
{X}
I mean you know
You've got to give them the right of way
let them know that you're getting off.
Mm-hmm.
Uh avenue
street
I get what you mean and I call it some of them's alleys.
An alley is a place where you can
it's not a large road it's still small
and
it's mostly a place where you gotta be careful in because you don't know what's going to come out.
You don't because there's no stop signs that don't mean you don't stop you have to stop
and
you gotta be careful about people walking in the alley because
some people try to take a short cut through the alley.
(X)
Behi- behind them between them everything.
Roads.
Well the roads well
they got dirt roads.
{NS}
and then they got
that's the only kind of roads that I can tell you.
I just call it a street.
Or a road
Oh you talking
{X}
That's a underpass.
Mm-hmm.
Parallel park.
Just regular park.
What do you call them?
I call them fire faucets.
Fire faucets.
If I would go down and I couldn't find one?
Probably a parking lot.
A parking lot is a place where you can put cars in
and
different other things like you- other size cars you can put trucks and
other type of vehicles as long as you know you pay for your park.
It's open. It's all you just drive right in.
Yes they do.
{X}
Well they- I call it
park and drive I guess.
Driver.
Some people you call it a park and drive.
So then you then you park the car and then drive it.
And then they
you know they'll tell you they'll take it from there. You go and they park and drive it.
Park and ride?
Oh
Well it means that
you park your car and you can take the bus and for what you can take.
Just park your car and ride the bus.
Yeah.
Yes.
It's cuz you going somewhere and you don't have a parking space so you can ride the bus and save gas and different thing.
{X}
That's why they got all the buses at the p- park and drive.
Park and ride. Did you say park and ride?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh park and drive I'm talking about's- park and ride I'm ta- yeah park and ride was right.
Tallest buildings?
Besides the Hemisfair Tower?
This place called
not the Alamo I forgot the
that's the Alamo down there that's going in to town on East Houston Street.
and I think that's the second tallest building downtown in San Antonio.
And they got Bexar county jail
It's pretty tall.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You've never seen have you seen Bexar county jail?
It's a pretty tall building they got a lot of people down there.
It's pretty tall. That's
and
I say that Bexar county I take that back yeah
I say the sa- that little that building down on cotton
down there called Alamo is the biggest
and the third one coming is the jail house- Bexar county jailhouse San Antonio.
That's about the tallest buildings I can think of in San Antonio right now downtown.
The Empires.
The Empires.
One name.
Empires.
No.
Well I- I gave them that name.
Reason I say that name is because they look like empire building which
is t- what I mean is towers because
I would say
I would say that they look like towers but they ain't built like towers
they built like towers.
But
they not you know look like a tower's real small you know and they
look like a jail.
{X}
I just say empire buildings.
cuz they big.
You understand?
{NS}
Oh.
{NW}
Well I what I mean is about the empire buildings
like
big building that
pretty big like if you can go on top of the empire building
{C: child yelling}
and you can see how far it is from down up on top of the building and you can see up.
A building.
The Hilton.
I call it
{C: I can only assume this is the mother of the yelling child}
uh
tower apartments I guess.
The building's been torn down?
I call it a parking lot cuz when they knock a building down that's being built on they call it a parking lot.
Vacant lot
The vacant lot.
A water fountain.
Water fountain.
Different kinds?
Brand names?
Not brand names what's the different kinds?
Well they got the kind of trucks that you got
They got the camp on them.
They got El Caminos and they call them trucks. You know El Camino?
They look like cars but they're trucks.
What kinds of truck carries a camper?
It's any size I mean about a ten about a ten ton truck.
Ten ton uh
about a ten ton truck.
What would I call it I just say a regular truck.
Uh
Small trucks El Caminos
They carry campers.
El Caminos.
They carry campers too.
No.
Delivers flowers?
I call it
I call it uh
storeroom.
What kind of car would I call it?
Station wagon.
Uh
T-model trucks.
T-model
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Little bitty fast car?
I'd say Sting Ray.
Fast car. Hot rod.
Well you it's old and new.
Because you can make an old car out of
make an old car run as good as a new car.
And you if you get a new car
and if it's a hot rod
it's a hot rod.
Racing.
Not on the not on the s- well they do it on the streets but you know you get caught if you you know
they usually they go to the Alamo dragway.
I don't know
That's going towards road T
Sedan and a coop?
Uh well
I'd say a sedan is bigger than
a what you say? A coop?
I think a sedan is bigger than a coop because it's got more room.
And a coop.
It don't have too much room.
Um
It can ha- they got a front and a back no it just got a front and a back seat.
I'd say luxury car.
Mm-hmm
Taxi.
You take your car and then you oh park and ride?
Oh park
Dr- uh ride park and ride I guess. You take the bus you park
uh see if you're going down town
You wanna leave your car and you want to go somewhere else
you take the bus so you park
in th- you park and ride.
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{NS}
What do I call it?
What you mean?
What do I call that?
I just say the operating buttons.
{X}
Glove department.
Something might I wrap around them?
A rubber band.
A cliff.
Paper clip.
Paper clip.
In the back trunk.
What do I call it?
I just say
What you mean?
Oh
Shift.
The gas.
Gas pedal.
Gas pedal.
Well we- you was talking about I was gonna talk about standing shift.
It's a shift that you have when you gotta step on the standard pedal
I mean the clutch and then when you step on the clutch
you pu- you know
shift to gear
{D:when it's in the floor}
Shift the gear to the floor because that's
{X}
to make the car go and give it gas.
Is it anywhere else?
No. Yes yes.
They got 'em in the steering wheel.
I forgot which car that thing on.
Mm
It was first taken off
drive stick
and then the standard.
Automatic and
Standard.
Oh speed bump.
They got fire trucks. They got um
fire trucks.
What kind of stuff they got or what?
All I know is the fire truck and the medic truck
The medic truck. The medic
It helps people when they in trouble like
they need help before the firemen get there.
Yeah.
How is it different from an ambulance?
Well I wouldn't say it's not different because
only thing they got extra they got experience they know what to do too.
The ambulance they just get there fast and they have the experience
how to do an treat people.
Yes.
Basically the same type of thing.
I say
bigger.
Pump the water?
Oh
Water trucks I guess. That's all
I know.
No.
No.
Would he drive over in?
Oh he would drive in the fire
department car.
What do I call it?
Police car.
No I haven't heard nothing else so
Oh paddy wagon.
Yeah..
Right on taking him to jail.
Oh you're talking about a helicopter.
Yeah they got po- yeah they got helicopters here.
They gonna have to have everything in San Antonio they can get out.
Take them back over to Mexico they get
they get up here.
The main place where they at?
We- do I have to- you mean do you mean in a place where
they go and
all when their on duty?
Yeah.
I call it the pig stand. They always hang out at the pig stand.
They're always there. I don't know why but
Yeah that's where all the pigs feed at.
{X}
That's the name of it. It's right down there on the corner of
{X}
They always have police cars all around that place.
Yes like pig P-I-G
And then S-T-A-N-D
Yeah.
Pig stand
Mm-hmm
They go back down to the police department and punch in.
The fire department. They just sit around and wait for a fire.
What other words for them?
Pigs
Fingers
Fingers.
Yeah.
What you mean?
Oh that's some name they just call them. That's all I know.
And uh
Squilos
Fuzz
Squilos the fuzz. The heat.
And
that's all I can think of that you can call them. You can call them a lot of names but I don't want to say it on tape right now.
I just say fire fighters. Fire
put them out I guess.
I don't know.
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