Interviewer:  um you say about a man who wouldn't say that he's he's primping you said he-
893:  he was grooming himself.
Interviewer:  uh huh. What would you call a man who-who likes to dress like?
893:  I dunno I I would say he was always immaculate.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Would you ever call him a jelly bean?
893:  Jelly bean?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Oh that's that's very my... My youth time.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh huh. #
893:  #2 {NW} # Jelly bean. We used to call them uh They used to wear uh uh supporters and high waisted pants with uh with uh wide uh self uh uh I mean wide belt on the pants of the same material. of a pants. And uh flared legs like uh they wear now.
Interviewer:  #1 And you called them jelly beans #
893:  #2 a jelly bean, uh huh. #
Interviewer:  Was that a compliment?
893:  Yes it was. {NW}
Interviewer:  Any other words like that that people used to use?
893:  uh no uh-uh I don't think so No I can't think of any other name
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. You said that they wore supporters?
893:  #1 Yes, uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 and that's to keep the pants up #
893:  #1 Yes, to keep the pants up uh huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 uh huh. # um Something that you could carry your money in
893:  A purse? A purse?
Interviewer:  Okay. And something a woman wears around her wrist.
893:  Watch.
Interviewer:  #1 or #
893:  #2 Or a bracelet #
Interviewer:  uh-huh. And Say she had a lot of little things strung up together
893:  A necklace?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. We're talking about beads You'd call it a what beads?
893:  String of beads.
Interviewer:  uh-huh. You ever said pair of beads?
893:  Pair of beads? I don't think so. {NW}
Interviewer:  And What would you call to open {D:unsure about this one} when it rains?
893:  An umbrella
Interviewer:  And the last thing that you put on the bed the the fancy covers #1 You call it #
893:  #2 That's a bed spread. #
Interviewer:  What about the ones that people used to make themselves to put on the bed for warmth?
893:  A comforter or a quilt
Interviewer:  What's the difference?
893:  I don't I don't see any difference between a comforter and a quilt cause both of them are quilted and uh both of them unless unless you mean a a quilted bedspread now then there's a difference because a comforter and a quilt are thicker than the than the quilted bedspread.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm. Did they have those in Mexico?
893:  oh yes. mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Are they made the same way?
893:  Yes. I think uh-huh that they're most of them are handmade.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm.
893:  They're a lot of people who uh who make their own uh their own quilts. They uh uh make them out of they uh they're filled with uh either um wool or uh cotton.
Interviewer:  What are they called in Mexico?
893:  {D: Coicha}
Interviewer:  #1 Co- #
893:  #2 {D: Coicha.} #
Interviewer:  #1 {D: Coicha.} #
893:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  And at the end of the day that you put your head on a
893:  Pillow.
Interviewer:  Did you ever see anything um about why she calls it a pillow?
893:  Yes uh-huh Yes uh pillow that uh Well I don't know nowadays but uh Years back they used to uh we used that pillow to uh cover it and uh make the bed uh but when the bed was made they would cover that long pillow.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  At the at the head of the bed and it made the bed look prettier.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 Fancier. #
Interviewer:  What did they call the long pillow?
893:  {NW} uh I don't know I don't remember {NW} that is No, I-I don't have the right word for it no.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear it called the {D: bollister?}
893:  {D: Bollister}?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  No I don't think I have. Just the long pillow that's all
Interviewer:  #1 Uh huh. #
893:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  uh Say you raised a lot of corn You'd say we raised a big what of corn?
893:  um Ay ay ay. A big quantity?
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 Or a big uh... # uh amount
Interviewer:  #1 or we had a good-- #
893:  #2 big big # a good crop
Interviewer:  uh huh. Um You say we expect to get a good crop from that field because the soil is very
893:  Fertile.
Interviewer:  uh-huh. What different kinds of soil do they have around here?
893:  Fertile and uh why I don't know really cause I-I never I have never been one to uh to do any planting {NW} I love plants I mean I like them and I I like uh flowers but
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  I don't take the time to be you know to be planting them and taking care of them and What uh I like most are uh are dogs.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  and at the present time I have four four uh chihuahua dogs at at home. And I just love little dogs.
Interviewer:  uh-huh.
893:  Mm-hmm. I don't care much for the uh big ones
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
893:  or cats or anything else like that but especially chihuahua dogs I love them.
Interviewer:  {D: uncertain?} Evette, you see a lot of chihuahua dogs in Mexico?
893:  #1 yes they that they #
Interviewer:  #2 especially that's where they're from #
893:  that's where they come from yes. And there are several sizes ah uh about five or six years ago I don't remember exactly uh I bought one for my for my daughter uh I have a daughter who lives in Dallas and she has a little girl who suffers asthma.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  and the doctor recommended for her to get her a chihuahua dog because they claim that something in its hair something in its in its body that they expel is good for asthma.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  So I bought her one and that little thing was already about six months old and she was just a tiny little ball.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  She never grew much but she was stolen from her.
Interviewer:  Mm. Is a chihuahua dog Are they good for asthma?
893:  Well that's what they claim. That's what the doctor I I had heard about it before and then the doctor told my daughter to uh try and get uh uh chihuahua dog for the and for the dog to be as close to the little girl as possible. #1 because #
Interviewer:  #2 to sleep in the middle? #
893:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #2 #
893:  They're They're clean
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  They're very clean dogs
Interviewer:  Yeah, I've heard something about that
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What you're talking about I don't know that I heard people say that that works but I never met anyone who had
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  you know tried it.
893:  Mm-hmm. Yes and uh I I have uh a long coat chihuahua
Interviewer:  Oh really?
893:  Yeah. The kind I have uh two smooth chihuahuas no I one smooth well the other one's smooth also but she's a tailless.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  She's so cute cause her legs are so long {NW} You know they're
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Just uh too long for her body #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. # She's tailless?
893:  tailless, uh-huh. Yes, she was she was born with just a little stub of a tail.
Interviewer:  I've never seen that.
893:  You haven't? well
Interviewer:  I saw one long haired one once.
893:  #1 uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 And I was so surprised. #
893:  uh-huh. And then I have one that's uh uh half uh pekingese and half chihuahua.
Interviewer:  She's the long hair #1 {X} #
893:  #2 Well she has # uh quite a bit of long hair yes.
Interviewer:  uh-huh.
893:  But not uh but the long coat chihuahua has his hair longer than than this uh pekingese.
Interviewer:  Where did you where did you get the dogs?
893:  Well the long hair one was given to me by uh one of my relatives who is now in Germany.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 But she used to live in San Antonio. # And she had uh she had the both
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 Male and female. # And uh when uh she had puppies once she gave me one of them.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 and it's real cute real pretty. # And then the other smooth one my it was given to my daughter but she is to live in an uh an apartment
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 and they're not allowed pets. #
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 So she gave it to me. # And then the other the tailless one a friend of my husband's has a a chihuahua female.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And he had promised him one and I already had those other two
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  But since that man made it a special trip to bring that little dog to me I I just couldn't refuse it. {NW} #1 and #
Interviewer:  #2 It's really not much trouble {X} carry a small little dog #
893:  Yes they're small but ay they make such an awful racket whenever they hear something or see someone or a car goes by.
Interviewer:  uh-huh.
893:  or you you think that uh oh I don't know there are houses full of burglars or something
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
893:  #2 {NW} # something terrible is happening the way they carry on and make all that uh racket. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh. #
893:  But they're real cute. I enjoy them very much.
Interviewer:  {NW} Um What When you're talking about the the {D: song} did you ever hear the song called "Law" or "Lil"
893:  No I don't think so.
Interviewer:  What about gumbo, or buckshot {D: lamb}?
893:  Mm-mm. No.
Interviewer:  And The flatland along the river or a stream you'd call that
893:  The flatland
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Next to a river or a stream.
893:  I
Interviewer:  You ever hear of lowland or bottoms?
893:  Yes lowland I have. Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about a field that's mighty good for raising hay or something? You call that a--
893:  Hmm? No I-I wouldn't know.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of a meadow or prairie--
893:  Oh yes a meadow and a prairie yes. uh Yes I used to uh to read about those things and uh and uh I know what a meadow is and I think it's a place where uh where cows go out to pasture.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm What about a prairie?
893:  A prairie is uh it's uh a land that does not have have uh too much vegetation I guess.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Is that Is that a Spanish word? or
893:  Prairie?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
893:  No. No I don't think it is Spanish cause I learned that in school.
Interviewer:  uh huh. Do they have they don't um talk about meadow or prairie around here now, do they?
893:  ah no, uh-uh.
Interviewer:  What about um land that has water standing on it?
893:  Swamp?
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  Mm.
Interviewer:  Anything else? #1 What is #
893:  #2 uh #
Interviewer:  next to the the gulf? Saltwater.
893:  Um No I-I don't know. uh I don't know you mention something to me and I'll tell you. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. # Did you ever hear of a a bog or marsh? Or some crawfish land anything like that?
893:  I've heard of marsh yes and bog mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Does #1 What do you think about #
893:  #2 That that's uh # that's uh uh by the well just like a swamp only it's it's on a on the edge of a of uh saltwater.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Which is the marsh or-
893:  Mm-hmm. A marsh.
Interviewer:  Mm. So it's not a bog? #1 that's {X} #
893:  #2 a bog it's uh # Well I guess you you would uh apply the same uh definition.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Are those words that you read or or they
893:  Yes I I've uh well I've I've read about them.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Yes uh huh
Interviewer:  You think we use those words here?
893:  No I haven't heard uh those words in a long time. {NW}
Interviewer:  Um. Say if you had to land those little {X} you want to get the water off you say you're going to
893:  Drain it?
Interviewer:  And what would you dig to drain the water off?
893:  A ditch.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about um something bigger than a ditch? That a small boat can go through?
893:  a tunnel or uh um no um A tunnel or something that's underground. uh No uh uh I don't think I know.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Say if you had a heavy rain in the water can add a little little bits little trench or ditch or something you call that a
893:  No I don't well maybe maybe I've heard the word
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  But uh I can't uh I can't think of it.
Interviewer:  You ever use the word gully or ravine or column?
893:  A ravine is uh something I think that as you go on uh on the road or a highway it's something deep down.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  On the edge of a of a road.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  That's that's what I think a ravine is.
Interviewer:  Is that a another term that that you read or that people use or?
893:  uh Well I've read about it yes. and I read about uh a definition.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And uh I guess yeah that's about all.
Interviewer:  It's not too common around here
893:  No it isn't.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Say if you had some water that was was a small stream of water you'd call that a
893:  A pond? or uh
Interviewer:  Or if it's flowing? You'd call it a
893:  A stream.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What else?
893:  A river
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Brook.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {X} Just tell me all the
893:  {NW} Well that's about that's about all I know a river stream brook uh I guess that's all.
Interviewer:  What about crick or creek?
893:  Creek. Yes uh huh a creek
Interviewer:  What's the difference between a creek and a brook?
893:  Well a brook I think it's um uh clean water cl- uh clear clear water flows in a in a brook.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And a a creek is full of uh uh dirty water and weeds and grass and uh things that people would go and dump in it {NW} I guess that's that that's the difference.
Interviewer:  What about biome? Or biome?
893:  Biome?
Interviewer:  Huh?
893:  A biome um no we used to have that in geography but I can't remember. {NW}
Interviewer:  Do people use that term around here?
893:  No uh uh
Interviewer:  What are some of the streams or rivers and so forth in this area?
893:  Well there's the Rio Grande that divides uh Texas from uh from {D: Benoritas }from Mexico. And then uh
Interviewer:  Divides Texas from what?
893:  from {D: Tamaritas} that's a state of {D: Tamaritas}
Interviewer:  oh.
893:  {NW} and uh well and then in Corpus there's the Nueces River. In San Antonio there's San Antonio river.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  and uh there's
Interviewer:  Go ahead.
893:  there's part of the gulf in in Corpus.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And uh around here that's that's about all I can think of.
Interviewer:  What about the creeks or brooks around here?
893:  oh we have uh Descartes Creek uh I live close to part of Descartes Creek myself.
Interviewer:  Is that what you call it You call that a creek?
893:  Uh huh yes.
Interviewer:  What about the Spanish?
893:  Arroyo?
Interviewer:  Uh huh
893:  Arroyo.
Interviewer:  Which do people usually call it? #1 {X} #
893:  #2 Arroyo #
Interviewer:  #1 uh huh. #
893:  #2 Me Arroyo. #
Interviewer:  They don't call it creek much.
893:  No uh uh No well uh I live in a neighborhood where uh the English language is not uh it's not spoken very much or very often so we we just call it {D:spelling} De Arroyo and uh Sometimes when uh It's mentioned in the paper Sometimes instead instead of saying uh of {D: beriding} the the uh {D: Desecartes} creek say they Arroyo {D: Desecartes}. {NW}
Interviewer:  What are the other creeks around here? {D: Le Chequan} Creek. That's over here on this area. Mm-hmm.
893:  The {D: Chequan} Creek {D: Desecartes} Creek and I guess that's about all.
Interviewer:  What do those names mean?
893:  {D: Chaquan}?
Interviewer:  Uh huh. Does does that mean anything? or is it...
893:  Well there's a a a name of the {D: Chaquan} I mean Somebody's last name is {D: Chaquan}
Interviewer:  #1 It's named after somebody? #
893:  #2 Uh huh. # I guess. uh huh. And there's a area there the {D: Chaquan} area
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And I guess that's why it's it's called the the {D: Chaquan} Creek.
Interviewer:  What about the the
893:  Descartes?
Interviewer:  uh huh. #1 {X} #
893:  #2 El {D: boyo Desacartes? Desacarte} means grass. # So I don't know why it's called that maybe it's because the grass it's too grassy or could be that I don't know I've always you know just heard it named {D: Desacartes} Creek but otherwise I don't I don't know the reason why
Interviewer:  Y'all ever call it Grass Creek {D: otherwise}
893:  No uh uh No it's always called Descartes Creek or the uh of the Arroyo Descartes.
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
893:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Um say if you have a stream that's flowing along and suddenly drops off the water goes on over #1 goes downstream #
893:  #2 a waterfall. #
Interviewer:  uh huh. And a place where boats stop and where crates unload is
893:  That's a port.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And a small rise in land would be a
893:  A hill.
Interviewer:  mm-kay. Anything else?
893:  No not #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
893:  Sorry. Go ahead. {NW} No that's all. a a hill.
Interviewer:  To open the door you take hold of the door
893:  Knob.
Interviewer:  Would you ever use the word knob talking about land?
893:  Not that I know of.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about something to hold up bigger than anything else?
893:  A mountain.
Interviewer:  Uh huh. And the rocky side of the mountain that drops off real sharp
893:  Um Yes I know what you're talking about
Interviewer:  Say someone fell off the
893:  Cliff
Interviewer:  uh huh. And how about several of those you talked about several.
893:  Several?
Interviewer:  Several?
893:  Cliffs.
Interviewer:  Uh huh. And up in the mountains when the road goes across in a low place but still up in the mountains not not the valley just that low place between mountains would be called a
893:  Between the mountains.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Did you ever hear of a gap or a pass?
893:  A gap I have. yes.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And the gunfighters on television for every man they kill they cut a little
893:  Notch. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh huh. # Wonder if people really did that.
893:  I don't know {NW}
Interviewer:  I guess at one time there was.
893:  Mm.
Interviewer:  The radio was was a western.
893:  Yes way back before it was it was settled by you know by uh big uh community or uh big uh uh several uh families or something like that I guess it was kind of wild then {NW}
Interviewer:  You ever hear any stories about way back then?
893:  Well uh no uh uh. I have uh some clippings that uh used to come in in uh El Dorado times about uh uh and I kept them because I thought it would be useful for my grandchildren.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Uh for their history or whatever. About the the founders you know like Loretta but I never took the time to read them. I just cut them out and put them away {NW}
Interviewer:  Do do your grandchildren live any of your grandchildren live here?
893:  Yes I have a grandson who lives with me and I have a granddaughter who lives also with me but at present is in she's in San Antonio like I told you yesterday. but she's just itching to come back. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
893:  Yes uh well in fact I raised four three of my grandchildren. four with Eddie. I raised three of one daughter and and this this one that's staying with me at the present time I'm taking care of him. Well at intervals. He stays with me at times and then he goes to his mother and then he comes back.
Interviewer:  Just like your aunt?
893:  Mm-hmm. Yes uh huh
Interviewer:  Does Do you do tell me where your Mexican relatives are from and is that in the interior or is it on the border? #1 your #
893:  #2 my relatives? # are uh have all been uh born here and uh in the United States.
Interviewer:  uh I mean your your
893:  #1 Ancestors? #
Interviewer:  #2 Ancestors #
893:  Yes, they were uh yes around here around the area.
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  Not too far inside of Mexico. uh huh.
Interviewer:  Does Mexico change very much as you as you go further down? Toward the interior?
893:  Well ah there are some parts that uh have a very lovely climate.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Like uh {D: Jualalahanan} and it it's also a very beautiful city. And it has a uh I think it's the largest uh lake in Mexico. Lake Chapala. And um Saltillo is a has a very good climate too. {D: Monterrey} is real hot just like it is here.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. So that's pretty near the border
893:  Mm-hmm. {NW} Yes it is. it's only about a what {X} city in that area? # I don't know I've never been there. I've never been to Mexico city. I've uh been uh asked to go
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And I've had the opportunity to go but somehow I guess God doesn't want me to go there because it just has never materialized. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. # Do you wanna go?
893:  Well at first I did. but then uh what I've heard now that it's such a a lot of uh traffic and uh people living like I imagine something like Chicago in apartments.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 One on top of the other # You know and uh all that uh uh well that that uh I what do you call it oh that A lot of uh families #1 living in in #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm. #
893:  in one building.
Interviewer:  #1 The slums #
893:  #2 no # #1 that I don't like #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah. #
893:  {NW} #1 You didn't like your apartment? #
Interviewer:  #2 ay #
893:  No, not at all.
Interviewer:  {NW}
893:  I was so disappointed even when I entered the city.
Interviewer:  #1 wha- #
893:  #2 I don't # know what I expected eh but I didn't expect what I saw. No I just uh as soon as I became employed I came back home.
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
893:  #2 unemployed I mean. # And I had I was very lucky to be employed there right away cause I got there on a Saturday and uh the following Monday I started working. and I worked the whole year through but uh I just didn't like it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about San Antonio? Do you like San Antonio?
893:  Well I like it uh to go for a pleasure trip.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Pleasure trip but not not for living in San Antonio I don't think that I as I said yesterday I don't think I would uh live uh comfortably or uh at ease anywhere else but here. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. {NW} # Oh One thing I wanted to ask you about b before I forget um you were telling me yesterday about the evil eye
893:  uh huh. Yes.
Interviewer:  Is there any um any cure that you've ever heard? If you think someone's trying to give you the evil eye? #1 is there any? #
893:  #2 ah # Well um yes there is it's as uh strange as it may seem to you and to other people that uh uh probably you know they just think it's just old wives' tales. #1 or #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm. #
893:  That it's just superstitions or that it's just uh um a what do you call it um a what d- uh witchcraft
Interviewer:  #1 mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 or # whatever but uh it's true and I really believe in it because I've seen it happen.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  About uh twenty something odd years ago I used to have a neighbor. and uh they had a son.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 and # that son had a very good friend of his
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And this boy's mother was always talking about the the son's friend's little sister
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And "oh she's so cute and you don't know her?" She would ask me and I'd say "no I've never seen her." "Oh she's a very pretty little girl" she was must the kid must have been about three years old I guess
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  So one day I was over at her house and uh another sister came and and was dragging the little girl to had the little girl by the hand. And then this lady told me "This is little the little girl I was telling you about." And I turned around and looked at her and she just didn't uh inspire any attraction to me or #1 mm-hmm #
Interviewer:  #2 anything #
893:  you know cause she was kind of homely looking.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  All I I just looked at her you know and I thought to myself "Well my goodness she's made such an awful big thing about #1 this #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm. #
893:  little girl I said she's not even pretty. And that was all.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  So they went home and around midnight this boy's sister
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 came # knocking on my door and said that the little girl was very sick. and I said is she she wanted me to go over to her house. And I said well what for? She said "because you gave the little girl the evil eye" And I said why I wasn't even attracted to the to the little girl I said
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 uh # I didn't even like her cause she's so homely. and uh she said well just just to be on the safe side uh
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 don't # be mean let's go. and uh
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  uh See what what can be done for the little girl. And the mother said ever since she had gone back from that house that the little girl started uh with a high temperature and #1 She started #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
893:  uh to get sleepy and she started throwing up and uh and uh she wouldn't eat, she couldn't eat, {NS} and she had a high fever and and she was uh sleeping you know but she was restless at the time at the same time and uh the lady said well go ahead and and touch her.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  So I did you know I went and touched her all over and uh and you won't believe this but before I left the little girl was well. {NW}
Interviewer:  There was there was nothing they could have done though besides getting you to come #1 touch her? #
893:  #2 ah yes # uh There's uh if you take um an egg
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And you start uh rubbing that that person with that egg and uh
Interviewer:  #1 You don't crack it? #
893:  #2 The egg # No. No just a whole as it is. And you start uh in a in a in a cross sign #1 see? #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
893:  And you start uh praying the creed uh or Father's creed? or the
Interviewer:  How does that go?
893:  uh I believe in the holy I #1 believe in the #
Interviewer:  #2 oh #
893:  in the holy lent uh what?
Interviewer:  #1 I believe in god #
893:  #2 I believe in god the holy spirit and #
Interviewer:  #1 yeah #
893:  #2 and yeah #
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 Well that's a creed you know # and you start
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  uh rubbing the the the person with a
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  With an egg and the and the cross you know making crosses and and
Interviewer:  #1 On the head? #
893:  #2 And uh # On the head everywhere all over
Interviewer:  uh huh..
893:  All over. and uh praying the the the creed you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  until you've uh gone through all of her body #1 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #2 You know #
893:  Her face and everything or #1 his face #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
893:  whatever. And then you crack the the the egg in a glass bowl of water or
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  half full of water and there were times when uh that in the egg yolk you #1 could see an eye. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
893:  In the egg yolk. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
893:  It's rather funny and rather uh unbelievable but uh but true like #1 Ripley's #
Interviewer:  #2 uh huh. #
893:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Well how how do you um how long how long
893:  #1 Does it take? #
Interviewer:  #2 does it take a person? #
893:  to to feel the symptoms?
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  Almost right away. #1 Like this #
Interviewer:  #2 If someone's giving you the evil eye #
893:  #1 yes #
Interviewer:  #2 is that #
893:  well you would start feeling you know uh depressed you would start feeling uh running a high fever.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  uh with an upset stomach and uh aching all over like as if you had the flu or something.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. When you after you've got the egg egg yolk in the in the water
893:  in the water mm-hmm
Interviewer:  How then what do you do? #1 How long do you watch it? #
893:  #2 you uh # If a person well usually the person uh who's who has or has had the evil eye goes to sleep right after that person is rubbed with that egg.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  It goes to sleep and then you place that um that egg or that glass rather with the egg in it under her bed.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Uh Right directly uh under the head and you just leave it there overnight. The following day is throw it out. drain I mean flush it out or
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Whatever.
Interviewer:  Does that work?
893:  Yes. Yes. Mm-hmm. It's about the besides having the person {NS} touch the the the ill person
Interviewer:  #1 Uh huh. #
893:  #2 That's about the only thing #
Interviewer:  #1 That's the second method. #
893:  #2 mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  {NS} Are there any other customs like that? #1 Mexican customs #
893:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  that that people still believe in here?
893:  No No like I say uh um it's uh like I say that most {NS} people don't even Come in Yes ma'am. {NS} {NW} {NS} It's on. You want to sing? {NS} {NW} {NS} Think about it.
Interviewer:  {NW} {NS} um {NS} {NS}
893:  It's come apart. {NS} {NS} {X}
Interviewer:  {NW} {NS} {NS} um What different kinds of roads are there around here?
893:  Well there's uh few farm roads and uh dirt roads {NS} and highways and {NS} and uh expressway.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And that's about all.
Interviewer:  What about roads that aren't paved roads?
893:  {NS} Dirt roads.
Interviewer:  uh huh. What if they're they put some
893:  gravel?
Interviewer:  uh huh. Say a a white paved road would you call that a
893:  White?
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  White paved road?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. the hard paved road that you know the white surface with
893:  oh um asphalt? or uh uh I {NS} I can't think of anything.
Interviewer:  You ever talk about concrete roads or cement roads?
893:  Concrete uh huh. Yes.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And
893:  thank you.
Interviewer:  A little road that turns off the main road
893:  uh that's a a a a {NS} What's it called inters- interstate? Or uh
Interviewer:  #1 But just a little #
893:  #2 Or a farm # farm road or a
Interviewer:  What about a road that has trees or a fence on both sides of it?
893:  A road that has trees or fence a private a private road?
Interviewer:  Do you ever use the word lane?
893:  Yes uh huh.
Interviewer:  What is a lane?
893:  A lane or a boulevard
Interviewer:  #1 uh huh #
893:  #2 is a # is a a street {NS} wider than the other street.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. It doesn't have to have trees or #1 anything on it #
893:  #2 No # uh uh. Just a it's wider than a than the regular {NS} regular streets they're called lanes or boulevards.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about a road that leads up to a person's house?
893:  {NS} That's a driveway.
Interviewer:  Huh?
893:  A driveway?
Interviewer:  Uh huh. And something along the side of the street for people to walk on.
893:  A sidewalk.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Any old fashioned names it's called?
893:  No I don't think so.
Interviewer:  Is it
893:  Almost five. My goodness ten minutes to five. We have to start closing.
Interviewer:  #1 um what about the #
893:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  thing the strip of grass between the grass and the street? {NS}
893:  um
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear a name for that?
893:  I don't know I may have. #1 I may have #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
893:  but I'm not sure.
Interviewer:  Okay.
893:  {NW} But the politics?
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  No I don't.
Interviewer:  Cause it's something
893:  That's something I I don't know anything about. {NW}
Interviewer:  I'm {D: word?} a lot of bumper stickers #1 on cars #
893:  #2 mm-hmm #
Interviewer:  #1 and everything like that. #
893:  #2 Mm-hmm. # Have you interviewed many people?
Interviewer:  I'm talking to you know {NS}
893:  uh no I've heard of him. #1 what happened to him #
Interviewer:  #2 Well I'm talking to him #
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  then then you
893:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # I'm with two people so far. um Say you were walking along a a road and an animal jumped out and scared you. You'd say I I picked up a
893:  A rock
Interviewer:  And I
893:  threw it at him.
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  Threw it at him.
Interviewer:  {NS} Anything else to say besides you threw it at him?
893:  {NS} Hurled.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. What about chunked or flung or pitched?
893:  Flung. Or pitched.
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  But not chunked I hadn't heard that word.
Interviewer:  #1 uh huh. #
893:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  And say you went to someone's house and knocked on the door and nobody answered. You say well I guess he's not
893:  Home.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And Someone's walking in your direction. You say they're coming straight
893:  At me.
Interviewer:  or They're walking straight what me?
893:  Straight at me or straight uh towards me
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And if you went into town and happened to see someone that you hadn't counted on seeing You'd say this morning I just happened to run
893:  into
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And a child's given the same name that her mother has you'd say they named the child
893:  It's identical or the same.
Interviewer:  uh huh. But the child was named
893:  After the mother.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And something that people drink for breakfast.
893:  Milk. Coffee.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 Tea. #
Interviewer:  And if you wanted some coffee and there wasn't any ready you'd say I have to go
893:  And make some coffee.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And talk about putting milk in your coffee. You'd say some people like it
893:  Black.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And other people like coffee
893:  With cream.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 Or coffee # with milk.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What
893:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Any other names for #
893:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 black coffee? #
893:  For black coffee?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Not that I know of.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear the expression drinking coffee barefooted?
893:  No. {NW} No I haven't.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh huh. #
893:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  And you say if you don't put um milk in your coffee You say you don't drink your coffee with milk you drink it
893:  uh black.
Interviewer:  Or what milk? You don't drink it with milk you drink it
893:  Black or
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  That's all or uh well if it doesn't uh if I don't take any milk in my coffee I have to drink my coffee uh black.
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  or use a substitute powdered milk
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And You tell a child um you can eat what's put before you. or you can do
893:  without.
Interviewer:  and something that's um say if you were real thirsty you'd go to the sink and pour yourself a
893:  glass a drink.
Interviewer:  #1 yeah #
893:  #2 Or a glass full of water. #
Interviewer:  uh huh. and you said the glass fell off the sink and
893:  broke.
Interviewer:  but somebody has
893:  broken
Interviewer:  okay. But I didn't mean to
893:  break it. {NW}
Interviewer:  And if you were real thirsty you'd say I what
893:  Drank.
Interviewer:  Huh?
893:  Drank.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And you'd say how much have you
893:  Drank.
Interviewer:  And we certainly do
893:  Drink.
Interviewer:  and Say I'm talking about how how far away something is you'd say well I don't know exactly how far away it is but it's just a
893:  quite a distance?
Interviewer:  Or it's just a a little
893:  um a little uh well how should I word it? A little distance. or not too far.
Interviewer:  Or you just maybe it's just a little #1 what up the road? #
893:  #2 a little way. #
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And if you've been traveling and still haven't got five hundred miles to go you say he still had a
893:  I still had a a long stretch or a
Interviewer:  Mmkay.
893:  uh a certain number of miles
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Do you ever say you have a far piece to go? Do you ever say it that way?
893:  {NW} Far piece?
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  No I wouldn't I I wouldn't say piece I'd have I'd say I'd say quite a distance or I'd say it was still or far away from our destination
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Or uh it's uh it's still quite far to where we're going.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  And something that was very common and you didn't have to look for it in a special place you say oh you can find that just about
893:  Anywhere.
Interviewer:  And If someone slips and fell this way he fell over
893:  Backwards.
Interviewer:  And this way
893:  forward.
Interviewer:  And Say if you had been fishing and I asked you did you catch any fish you might say no but one no
893:  No I didn't?
Interviewer:  uh huh. Do you ever say Nary one?
893:  Nearly one?
Interviewer:  Nary one.
893:  Nary a one? No uh uh
Interviewer:  #1 You ever hear of that? #
893:  #2 No # Yes I've heard it but I never use that word.
Interviewer:  Who would say that?
893:  I don't know uh Some people from uh The Ozarks I guess. #1 um #
Interviewer:  #2 uh huh #
893:  I don't know who who I think that's where I heard it.
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  Now that I Now that I remember that they used to say unbeknownst and we-ins and you-ins {NW}
Interviewer:  You don't hear that around here.
893:  uh no uh uh I thought it was so funny and it still tickles me when I think about it cause my daughter the one who lives in Dallas Well those people I don't know when I heard about Dallas you know I I uh Well I've always heard that it's such a big place you know and a really beautiful city and whatever. And I never thought that I'd get to uh to see people or or hear people with uh using those expressions weins and youins and
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
893:  #2 (NW) #
Interviewer:  What if What do you say if you're taking to a whole group of people? #1 You would #
893:  #2 I'm talking to them. #
Interviewer:  Uh huh. Well if you're say um Say if you're fixing to leave your house you say Well I hope
893:  You
Interviewer:  uh huh Would you ever say You all or y'all?
893:  No I say all of you #1 I don't say you all. #
Interviewer:  #2 uh huh. #
893:  I say all of you.
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  But uh I I've heard yes that's that's uh very common here.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 in {D: Morido} that you all #
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  But I never use it myself. I always say all of you.
Interviewer:  Uh huh. What if you're there there's a group of people at your house and you're asking them them about everybody's coaching them.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  You'd say where are
893:  Your coats?
Interviewer:  uh huh. Would you ever say you all's coats? or
893:  No.
Interviewer:  #1 any #
893:  #2 Where are your coats #
Interviewer:  #1 uh huh #
893:  #2 or uh # You can put your coats over here or all of you can use this place for your coats.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  {NS} And if you got rid of all the brush and trees on your land you say you
893:  Cleaned it.
Interviewer:  And when you're plowing um the trench that the plow cuts that's called a
893:  No I wouldn't know.
Interviewer:  #1 You ever hear #
893:  #2 I don't know anything about farming # {NW}
Interviewer:  you ever hear or furrow? or fur
893:  furrow?
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  F-U-R-R-O-W ?
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  Yes I've heard of it. Yes uh huh
Interviewer:  or #1 {X} #
893:  #2 A furrow # A furrow is the the little uh uh indentation or whatever that it's made with a plow.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Did You know if you're plowing with two horses
893:  {NW}
Interviewer:  You never never plowed before? Well
893:  No I don't know {NW}
Interviewer:  Anyway did did you ever hear what the horse is being called a lead horse or {D: word} nigh horse, or off horse or anything like that?
893:  No uh uh.
Interviewer:  And when you're in a wagon or when you're plowing or working horses and you what you hold in your hands to guide them with you call that a
893:  I wouldn't know.
Interviewer:  What about when you're riding on one? You What do you hold in your hands?
893:  The reins?
Interviewer:  uh huh. Would you call it reins if it's with a wagon or
893:  Yes I think so.
Interviewer:  uh huh. And you put your feet in the
893:  In the stirrup.
Interviewer:  okay. And Before you can hitch a horse to a buggy or wagon what do you have to do to them? When you put all the #1 What do you call the thing you #
893:  #2 the the #
Interviewer:  you put on it?
893:  The bridle? Or uh the
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear
893:  #1 the #
Interviewer:  #2 a #
893:  #1 a what? #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Do you ever hear people you're gonna say uh gear them up or harness them
893:  Harness yes. But not gear.
Interviewer:  #1 uh huh. #
893:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  and wheat is tied up into a
893:  Wheat is tied up into a I don't know into a a bane or a stack or a {NW}
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And talk about how much wheat you got from the neighbor You say we raised forty what wheat today? Forty
893:  forty bushels? Forty...
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And Say there was something that we had to do today just the two of us. You could say we'll have to do it. Or instead of saying we You could say
893:  We will or we'll
Interviewer:  Or if you don't use the word we. You could say
893:  Both of us
Interviewer:  uh huh. Would you ever say uh me and you or you and I?
893:  You and I.
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What if you were talking about some man and yourself?
893:  He and I.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And If you knock at the door and somebody asks who's there and they recognize your voice You might answer it's
893:  It's me.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And if it was a man at the door. You say it's
893:  Him.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And if it's a woman?
893:  It's she.
Interviewer:  And it's two people?
893:  It's them.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And talk about how tall you are. You say he's not as tall as
893:  I am
Interviewer:  Or I'm not as tall
893:  As he is.
Interviewer:  And he can do that better than
893:  Than I
Interviewer:  And Say someone has been running for two miles and they had to stop you'd say Two miles is what he could go two miles is
893:  As far as he could go? Or
Interviewer:  Mmkay. Do you ever say the farthest or all the farther he could go or
893:  The farthest
Interviewer:  #1 huh? #
893:  #2 The farthest? #
Interviewer:  Mmkay.
893:  Farthest.
Interviewer:  #1 You hear that word much? #
893:  #2 Yes. #
Interviewer:  Or does it sound sort of funny?
893:  no it doesn't sound funny I mean it's proper.
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  Farthest farther
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  Far. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  And say something belongs to me you'd say it's
893:  It's hers.
Interviewer:  Or if you're talking to me you'd ask me
893:  It's yours.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. If it belongs to both of us it's
893:  ours.
Interviewer:  And to them?
893:  It's theirs.
Interviewer:  And to him?
893:  It's his. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Did you hear # In Ozark did you hear people say hisum?
893:  Hisum yeah. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 No hisum or theirsum here. #
893:  #2 {NW} No uh uh. # Like when they refer to washing something I haven't washed and I haven't {D: rinsed}
Interviewer:  Uh huh. uh huh.
893:  And it sounds so funny to me
Interviewer:  {NW}
893:  And my daughter says that {NS} When first she got married and she went to to live there in Dallas and she started talking to her in-laws and they thought that uh she speaks funny.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
893:  And we think that they're the ones #1 who speak funny. #
Interviewer:  #2 uh huh {NW}. # That's a a big difference.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Uh Say there'd been a party that you hadn't been able to go to and later on you were asking about the people that had gone you ask someone
893:  uh who was there.
Interviewer:  uh huh. Do you ever say who all was there?
893:  No. uh uh.
Interviewer:  Have you heard that around here?
893:  Yes I have. But uh I I don't use that
Interviewer:  uh huh
893:  That word. I say I would I would ask who was there or
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Who attended or who was able to go
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  But not who all was there. {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh huh. Uh Say there was a group of children that obviously belonged to more than one family You'd ask about them children are they? You say
893:  Who's children are they?
Interviewer:  #1 uh huh #
893:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  But what about who all's children are they?
893:  No uh uh.
Interviewer:  That tells {X}?
893:  Uh huh yes it does.
Interviewer:  And say if you were asking about all of the speakers of arts You know everything he said You'd ask him one did he say?
893:  Did he say uh
Interviewer:  if if you haven't been able to hear the speech
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  You'd ask him with well
893:  What did he say?
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  How about what all did he say?
893:  No. Uh uh. {NW}
Interviewer:  And If no one else will look out for them You say they've got to look out for
893:  Themselves.
Interviewer:  And no one else will do it for him He better do it
893:  Himself.
Interviewer:  And You say this morning at seven o clock I what breakfast?
893:  Ate.
Interviewer:  And yesterday
893:  Or I had breakfast.
Interviewer:  Yesterday that I had #1 I #
893:  #2 I had # breakfast.
Interviewer:  I already
893:  eaten.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And tomorrow I will
893:  Eat.
Interviewer:  And um The two parts inside parts of the egg are the
893:  uh yolk and the um white.
Interviewer:  Uh huh. What color is the yolk?
893:  Yellow.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And to cook them in hot water you call them
893:  Well either a soft boiled or hard boiled. Or well you mean uh cook them in in the water that's poached a poached egg. uh huh.
Interviewer:  And Say I'm you could take um milk or cream and mix that with sugar or nutmeg and make a sort of sweet liquid that you could pour over pudding you'd call that a
893:  A sauce?
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And Something kind of like a a fruit pie that has several layers of fruit and dough in it. You'd call that a
893:  Cobbler?
Interviewer:  Mmkay. Did you ever hear of a a family pie or a sack pie?
893:  no. Uh uh.
Interviewer:  And the first thing you have to do after milking is to get the impurity out you have to
893:  boil?
Interviewer:  Or you you run the pour the milk through a sort of a
893:  uh colander or a sieve
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  or a
Interviewer:  #1 and #
893:  #2 a #
Interviewer:  to to do what to it?
893:  To uh
Interviewer:  Say if you took it in a some people take something like even a flour sack
893:  #1 yeah a cheesecloth or something #
Interviewer:  #2 and pour it through there #
893:  uh huh.
Interviewer:  And they what do they say they're doing?
893:  I don't know. {NW} They're uh I don't know I can't think of it.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And milk that you you let sit in and get thick
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  You call that
893:  Buttermilk.
Interviewer:  #1 well #
893:  #2 or #
Interviewer:  if it's been churning it's buttermilk.
893:  uh huh.
Interviewer:  What if it hasn't been churning?
893:  Sour milk?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Do you ever hear of um {X} or curdled milk or
893:  Curdled yes uh huh.
Interviewer:  You've heard of curdled?
893:  Curdled uh huh.
Interviewer:  What about {X}? #1 You ever hear? #
893:  #2 No, uh uh. #
Interviewer:  Is there anything you can make out of curdled milk?
893:  Yes, biscuits. And uh buttermilk and you can use sour milk for breads.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  and for cookies.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 Some # Recipes call for sour milk for cookies and there are several #1 things that #
Interviewer:  #2 uh huh. #
893:  can be uh made with with sour milk or or buttermilk.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  I guess cheesecake is one of them. #1 I'm not sure #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
893:  but {NW} I guess.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of a kind of cheese made from it?
893:  Yes. uh huh.
Interviewer:  What kind of cheese?
893:  All kinds of cheese I think are made out
Interviewer:  #1 mm-hmm. #
893:  #2 of # out of milk or sour milk. #1 in fact #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm. #
893:  I like the cheese they make across the river.
Interviewer:  What cheese is that?
893:  That's well I don't know what they call it it's it's a round uh it's they just call it.
Interviewer:  #1 that #
893:  #2 cheese #
Interviewer:  That round white?
893:  #1 Yeah uh huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 I've seen that. #
893:  Yes it's very good.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
893:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  The Spanish name for that?
893:  Queso.
Interviewer:  Queso?
893:  Q-U-E-S-O.
Interviewer:  uh huh.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What do they
893:  I don't know the procedure but I know it's made out out of sour milk.
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  And it's some of it is uh pressed until all of the of the water is taken out.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And it it it tastes very good. And others I don't know how how they uh make it but there's this kind of cheese that it just crumbles.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And then there's this other kind of cheese that when you uh when you cook it we used to do that at home a lot my grandmother used to
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  Used to cook that kind of cheese that kind of uh threads.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm.
893:  See it doesn't it doesn't crumble and it doesn't melt it just it just threads. And it's so good.
Interviewer:  That's a #1 Spanish #
893:  #2 in Spanish, yes. # uh huh. It's called what? Asadera. Asadera. A-S-A-D-E-R-A.
Interviewer:  That a kind of that threads?
893:  That threads, uh huh. But it tastes real good. My grandmother used to chop up uh onion and tomato
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And fry it in uh real hot uh real hot either oil or lard or whatever. And then she'd add a little milk or a little water or both and then put that that cheese there until it started bubbling until it started threading oh, it was #1 delicious. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
893:  {NW}
Interviewer:  {X} {X} Does it taste uh similar to the
893:  #1 to this cheese yes. #
Interviewer:  #2 to the round cheese? #
893:  uh huh. Only the round cheese crumbles like I said it crumbles
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. It doesn't thread. #
893:  #2 and the and the other one doesn't. # Mm-hmm. They use that white cheese mostly for enchiladas.
Interviewer:  Oh.
893:  {NW} But I like my enchiladas with American cheese. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
893:  #2 In fact I like # I like them with pimento cheese better than than American cheese.
Interviewer:  Pimento cheese?
893:  Uh huh.
Interviewer:  I've never
893:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Never heard of doing that.
893:  Yes I I've Well I mean I uh I made that up. #1 You see #
Interviewer:  #2 uh huh #
893:  my grandmother always used to to like to use that Mexican cheese.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  But then uh you would have to well here you very seldom find Mexican cheese.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  So I thought it one time I'd try it with uh pimento.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And I loved them.
Interviewer:  {NW}
893:  And I'd try I tried them with American cheese and they don't taste as good as they do with pimento.
Interviewer:  {NW} that's Never heard of doing that before.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Um Say someone has a good appetite you'd say he sure likes to put away his
893:  Food.
Interviewer:  And food taken between regular meals would be called a
893:  snack.
Interviewer:  And say dinner was on the table {NS} and the {X} was standing around the table. You'd tell him to
893:  Sit down?
Interviewer:  Mmkay. So you say so then he
893:  He sat.
Interviewer:  And um no one was standing because everybody had
893:  Had sat.
Interviewer:  And if you were filling up to wait until the potatoes were passed over to him you'd tell him just go ahead and
893:  start eating.
Interviewer:  or go ahead and what? If you you You tell someone you know don't don't wait until they're passed to you.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Everybody just go ahead and you say take some or help yourself
893:  #1 Yeah help yourself. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Mmkay. So then he went ahead and
893:  helped himself.
Interviewer:  And I ask him to pass me the beans since he had already
893:  Helped himself.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear people say hoped? He hope himself?
893:  No {NW} No I I heard I've heard people say it was uh ke- ket. Instead of kept.
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  Ket ket
Interviewer:  #1 yeah #
893:  #2 or something like that. #
Interviewer:  #1 Kep #
893:  #2 Kep #
Interviewer:  #1 yeah #
893:  #2 uh huh # kep they don't sound the T.
Interviewer:  {NW}
893:  Say they kep #1 like kep it #
Interviewer:  #2 uh huh. #
893:  Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  {NW} um If you decide not to accept something someone offers you something that you don't want you say no thank you I don't
893:  Like it. Or I don't care for it.
Interviewer:  {NS} And food's been cooked and served a second time you say that it's been
893:  It has uh been uh reheated.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And you put them in your mouth and then you begin to
893:  Chew.
Interviewer:  And say he couldn't eat that piece of meat because it got stuck in his throat and he couldn't
893:  swallow.
Interviewer:  He could chew it but he couldn't
893:  swallow?
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And something um peas and beets and carrots and so forth that you grow yourself you call those
893:  Vegetables.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And a place where you grow them.
893:  A vegetable garden.
Interviewer:  Any special name for the vegetables that you're growing yourself or?
893:  I don't grow them vegetables.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. And this is something uh it's it's a starch it's it's white it's made from a grain it grows in in wet places I don't know if it grows around here or not. But people in China and Japan eat it a lot.
893:  Rice?
Interviewer:  Uh huh. Does that grow around here?
893:  Not that I know of.
Interviewer:  I guess Louisiana
893:  No I don't I don't I've never known. Mm-mm.
Interviewer:  And something that um this is a sort of southern food
893:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 um # it's made from ground up corn a lot of times um You eat it for breakfast along with
893:  Oh uh uh mash or uh grits?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about something that's um made out of corn but it's not ground up? It's just the whole kernels.
893:  #1 it's #
Interviewer:  #2 just #
893:  a veg- corn or uh yeah that's about.
Interviewer:  But do you ever hear hominy or lye corn
893:  Oh yes hominy uh huh yes.
Interviewer:  What's the difference between hominy and grits?
893:  Well grits is uh the corn when it's uh when it's dry and it's ground coarse.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And hominy well I've only seen it in cans {NW} but hominy is uh more like uh it expands it uh
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  It's a it's a bigger or it's a bigger kernel I don't know.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
893:  #2 And it's white. #
Interviewer:  Uh huh.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What about mush? How do you make mush?
893:  You boil the corn meal till it's kind of uh well I wouldn't say it's likely hard but uh uh hard enough so it can be sliced
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  And then it's fried I guess and then it's it uh uh uh it's poured uh either molasses or syrup it's poured over over it. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Anything else you make out of cornmeal like that?
893:  Corn meal cornbread?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What else?
893:  Um Well I I uh cover pieces of fish on uh with cornmeal and fry it.
Interviewer:  You ever hear of cush cush or? #1 {X}? #
893:  #2 No uh uh. #
Interviewer:  It's something like mush.
893:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Um what about foreign dodger? You ever heard of that?
893:  No I haven't.
Interviewer:  And talk about how much flour might be in a sack you might say a a sack might have five
893:  pounds.
Interviewer:  And say there's two kinds of bread there's homemade bread and then there's
893:  baker bread.
Interviewer:  Mmkay. What different kinds of {X}?
893:  Bread that has flour.
Interviewer:  Are there
893:  Oh you can make pies cakes uh bread uh uh French bread uh doughnuts
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  Cookies.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
893:  All kinds of uh of bread can be made out of flour.
Interviewer:  Do you ever use the expression white bread or #1 rye bread? #
893:  #2 Yes # white bread rye bread #1 lye bread. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. # What's the difference? Between white bread and lye bread?
893:  Well white bread is just uh made out of enriched flour I guess.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.