Interviewer:  {NS} {X}
911:  No I already got mine but they have a great big one that they leave out there all the time put the winner's name on there every year the year and the winner's name. {D:so I guess they} find out how we want it. {NS}
Interviewer:  How many people were playing?
911:  a hundred and eighty-four. {NS}
Interviewer:  Just people from around here mainly or?
911:  No what they do is every member of the club that wants to play in it in where up to eighty-four we had a hundred and some wanting to play but they had to cut it off at eighty-four. then you invite a guest from out of town. The object being to bring in make a fellowship deal and bring people from all over different places and spend three four five days playing golf and if you if you allowed them to just get somebody locally it you know you'd have the same ones from that you saw all year round. this way there's eighty-four from here and then there's eight-four people
Interviewer:  #1 {NS} #
911:  #2 coming in from all over and #
Interviewer:  {NS}
911:  And it is getting so now where it is the same ones coming back every year being mostly I'd say about eighty percent but their coming from all over. Different places and you haven't seen the man for year you renew old acquaintances and stuff like that. It is a real nice time.
Interviewer:  You said trying to encourage people to join this #1 coun- #
911:  #2 Uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  country clubs?
911:  No they get all the people in there they want. and like I said eighty-four can play and they get over a hundred on the list but once you get in you have the right to play every year unless you decide to pull out. #1 kind of a #
Interviewer:  #2 How do they # Determine who gets in?
911:  Well this goes back to the first year or two when people kinda {D: weren't you know} not too interested {NS} a bunch of us got in there and we just preserved that priority. Now what they do is if three or four spots open up the first ones in there with their money
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Go to the top of the list and when they cut it off they take the one that got money in there first. The entry fee. {NS}
Interviewer:  Um. We talked about the animals um {NS} say if you wanted to a go feed the animals and if it's time to feed the animals and do your chores you would said that it was?
911:  Oh I've been lucky enough to never have to do that I guess time to do the chores?
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear that called chore time or feeding time or fodder time?
911:  {NW} I've heard feeding time.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  But here now you you are talking about things that I've heard not really in you know? Actual everyday conversation a man sitting there telling me well it's feeding time I got to go slop the hogs cuz I just have never been around that kind of stuff.
Interviewer:  {NW}
911:  So these expressions that I've heard but never used or had used to me when they were really you know serious about they were actually going to go out and do this.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  I've never lived on a farm or been on one. Or that kind of farm.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard the animals referred to as critters or stock?
911:  Yeah both of those. But not much. {NS} Critters mostly refer to {NS} oh squirrels rabbits little bitty fur animals like that called critters.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Um stock well is um mostly cows.
Interviewer:  What about animals that are a nuisance? What would you call them?
911:  Oh again critters pests varmints.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Probably critters or varmints.
Interviewer:  What do you think of a varmint? Is there any special size animal?
911:  Yeah about the size of a big rat possum.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  {NW} You know a thing like that would be a varmint.
Interviewer:  Would you call a coyote a varmint or?
911:  Hmm probably I don't know.
Interviewer:  That's getting a little large?
911:  Yeah. Coyote I mean that's what? varmint to me is what I always think of as {X} dirty little animals I don't like. Coyotes I don't like 'em but they don't come bothering you. You know? They won't get up inside the house and stuff like that To me that is varmints.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Coming noseying around the house and tearing into stuff.
Interviewer:  What do you think of rats and mice and things like that as? #1 Varmints? #
911:  #2 Varmints. # and possums. {X} {NS}
Interviewer:  Um the noise that a calf makes when it's being weaned? You'd say the calf began to do what?
911:  {NS} The noise that a calf makes when it's being weaned? {NS} The calf began to I don't know. I don't know exactly what you are looking for you look. You lost me.
Interviewer:  {D:Alright} what about the noise that a cow makes? You say she...?
911:  Moos
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Would you say that a calf moos? Or would you have another? {NS}
911:  Calf? {NS} I don't know.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear a cat balls or cries or blats?
911:  It cries. Yeah. I'd say cries.
Interviewer:  What about a horse? What kind of sound does he make?
911:  Whinny.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And
911:  Or a neigh.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Whinny or neigh.
Interviewer:  Is that the same or are they different?
911:  To me it's about the same thing. The horse makes its usual noise I'd probably say neigh.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  When it came out first I think I'd probably be more inclined to say neigh. Horses neighing.
Interviewer:  Say if um you wanted to call the cows to get it out of the pasture, do you ever hear a special call? To get cows to come to you?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  What about calves?
911:  Neither.
Interviewer:  and horses?
911:  Huh-uh
Interviewer:  Sheep?
911:  Huh-uh
Interviewer:  What would you say to a cow to get her to stand still so you could milk her?
911:  {NW} Don't, better not put that on the tape. {NW} I don't know. I've never milked well yeah I have to but I don't ever remember ever tell her to stand. You know? Get it just tell her to stand still and slap it across the side.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What would you say to mule or horse to get 'em to turn left or right? {NS}
911:  Turn left right. You mean if I'm riding it?
Interviewer:  No. If you are plowing with it or driving it or something.
911:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear people say haw or?
911:  {NS} No. I don't think so. I know yeah haw and and what's the other one is? Yeah I've heard I know what you are talking about. #1 But I've never #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  used 'em or heard 'em used. I think I read 'em probably.
Interviewer:  What about to get 'em started if you are riding 'em?
911:  Giddy-up.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And to stop 'em?
911:  Whoa.
Interviewer:  And to back 'em up?
911:  I don't know. To back 'em up? {NS}
Interviewer:  #1 I don't #
911:  #2 Alright. #
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear? {NS}
911:  What?
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Go ahead. I don't
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear people say hike up or whoa back or?
911:  No. {NS}
Interviewer:  And do you ever hear people call hogs?
911:  Sooey pig.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Do you know how that goes?
911:  Do I know how it goes?
Interviewer:  Yeah can- can you do it like like your calling 'em?
911:  {D: Oh I do not know} the way I've heard it ever done was hear pig sooey sooey pig. Sooey.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Where did you hear that?
911:  The Texas-Arkansas football game. Is when we put it on 'em and start calling 'em pigs and giving 'em the sooey pigs. to the Arkansas fans. {NW} That's where I heard it That's the truth too. I'm not joking but I've heard it. You know? {NS} The television and stuff like that. I've never heard anybody actually do it but
Interviewer:  #1 just #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. #
911:  Just something you've known and heard for a long time but I have that is a Texas-Arkansas tradition.
Interviewer:  Texas and Arkansas play?
911:  Football.
Interviewer:  Do they they're regular opponents they?
911:  Yeah. And they are the razorbacks and we give them that sooey pig business.
Interviewer:  Do they get mad?
911:  Oh yeah. {NS} They don't like it too much.
Interviewer:  What's the Texas football team?
911:  Longhorns. {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you ever play football while you were at Texas?
911:  No. {NW}
Interviewer:  And do you hear anybody call chickens?
911:  Chick chick chick.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And you say something that um people eat for breakfast that's native from ground up corn.
911:  Cereal.
Interviewer:  Well it's corn that has been ground up real fine. You eat it with maybe eggs and. {NS} Sort of a Southern food...
911:  Grits.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. What about something that's got the whole grains of corn? It's not been ground up. It's as fine as grits. {NW}
911:  {NW} You're talking about oatmeal.
Interviewer:  No it is made out of corn.
911:  Hominy grits?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What's the difference?
911:  I don't know. I like 'em both. But I don't hominy grits I don't grits to me they're white stuff you are talking about at first the word hominy came out just from {NS} I don't know where I just heard that I #1 guess. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What about something just called hominy or lye corn? Do you ever hear that?
911:  Yeah hominy.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  How's that different from grits? Or is it
911:  Well I've never eaten it for breakfast.
Interviewer:  {NS} Does it look the same or?
911:  Well um hominy to me is about the size of probably about a little bit bigger than a green pea.
Interviewer:  #1 It's #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
911:  white. I've seen some yellow. I eat that for lunch or supper.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Grits to me is like you talking about some fine, small {NW}
Interviewer:  What about a um {NS} something that it's a grain that's made well it's white and it's it's a grain that grows in wet places In other parts of Texas maybe #1 but in #
911:  #2 Rice #
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Rice.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Where does that grow? Does it grow in Texas or?
911:  Yeah, I think they grow some rice in Texas. I don't know where. I think they grow a lot it in Louisiana. If they are growing it in Texas it would have to be over on the East side. It'd have to be up around Houston, Beaumont, and there I'd imagine. be about the only place you'd grow rice.
Interviewer:  {NS} And you'd say this morning at seven o'clock I what breakfast?
911:  I ate breakfast.
Interviewer:  And yesterday at that time I had already?
911:  Eaten breakfast.
Interviewer:  And if you were real thirsty you could go to the sink and pore yourself a?
911:  Glass of water.
Interviewer:  and you'd say the glass fell off the sink and?
911:  Broke.
Interviewer:  So somebody has what the glass?
911:  Broken the glass.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. But you'd say but I didn't mean to?
911:  Brake it.
Interviewer:  And {NS} if someone has a good appetite you'd say he sure likes to put away his?
911:  Hmm there is a lot that could go in there. He sure likes to put away his food sure likes to put away his feed sure likes to put away his groceries
Interviewer:  Okay. What do you would you call food that's taken between regular meals?
911:  Snacks.
Interviewer:  Anything else? {NS}
911:  I don't think so. I'd be inclined to call it a snack.
Interviewer:  And something that sort of like a fruit pie I mean its got several layers of fruit and dough in it. maybe it's made out of apples or something. {NS}
911:  Apple pie? {NS} Hmm I don't know.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of a cobbler or?
911:  Oh Okay. Cobbler yeah. Cobbler I know what you talking about. Apple Cobbler.
Interviewer:  Anything else?
911:  Peach cobbler. Apple and peach. That's about all.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of a deep apple pie or apple slump or family pie?
911:  I've heard of deep apple pie.
Interviewer:  How is that different?
911:  I don't know. I guess it's a deeper dish. {NW}
Interviewer:  Do they {NS} is that something you hear around here a lot or?
911:  No I don't know. I don't I don't remember hearing it too much. Deep apple pie. Not much. I know it {NS} mentioned it I know I'd heard it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  But uh I don't remember hearing it too much. No just usually just apple pie.
Interviewer:  What about something that um say you could take milk or cream and mix that with sugar and nutmeg and make sort of a a sweet liquid that you could pour over pudding or pie? You'd call that a? {NS}
911:  Hmm ... {NS} I don't know what you'd call that.
Interviewer:  Do you ever call that a sauce or a #1 dip or a dressing? #
911:  #2 Sauce # Call it a sauce.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Do you ever use the word dip or dressing or gravy?
911:  No. Not like that. No. I'd call it a sauce.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And say if you were real thirsty you'd say I what a glass of water?
911:  I want a glass of water. #1 Or I #
Interviewer:  #2 And then #
911:  I need a glass of water. Usually want.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And you'd say um so then I I what a glass of water?
911:  I drank a glass of water.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And you'd ask me how much have you?
911:  Had to drink.
Interviewer:  Or how much have you?
911:  How much have you drank?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And say if dinner was on the table and the family was standing around the table. You tell them to?
911:  Sit down.
Interviewer:  So you'd say so then he?
911:  Sat down.
Interviewer:  And no one else was standing cuz everybody else had?
911:  Sat down.
Interviewer:  And if you want someone not to wait until the potatoes are passed over to 'em you tell them to just go ahead and
911:  Eat.
Interviewer:  Or. What yourself?
911:  Go ahead and serve yourself.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Or using another word. Go ahead and what yourself?
911:  Oh. Go ahead and help yourself to the potatoes.
Interviewer:  So you'd say so then he went ahead and?
911:  {NW} Are we back to the served and the helped he said helped himself to the potatoes? {NS} I guess yeah that'd be right.
Interviewer:  And you'd say ask him to pass over 'em to him since he had already what himself?
911:  Helped himself or served himself. I think its about fifty fifty really.
Interviewer:  #1 Between #
Interviewer:  #2 Do you hear # people say hoped themselves for help
911:  No. {NS}
Interviewer:  And {NS} if you decide not to eat something, you would say no thank you I don't?
911:  Care for any.
Interviewer:  And foods been cooked and served a second time you say that it's been?
911:  We call 'em leftovers. {NW}
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And you put food in your mouth and then you begin to?
911:  Chew.
Interviewer:  And you say he couldn't eat that piece of meat because it got stuck his throat and he couldn't?
911:  Swallow?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. He could chew it but he couldn't what it? He couldn't?
911:  Swallow it?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And something that um it's made out of cornmeal. You take cornmeal and and salt and water make something you could eat just with a spoon. You call that?
911:  Cornmeal and salt and water. I don't know.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear mush or cush cush or?
911:  Well I've heard the word mush but I didn't know what it was. I mean {X} that it was cornmeal {NS} salt and water. I've never eaten any.
Interviewer:  What about some other things made out of cornmeal? {NS}
911:  For instance, I don't know. I just avoid that kitchen like the plague. You going to have to throw me some hints there. Things made with cornmeal. Tortillas?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What else?
911:  Corn bread?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about something to eat with fish?
911:  To eat with fish? Well you can make stuff to cover that a you know to cook it in, can't you? With #1 corn #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  meal the uh what do you call it? Is it batter?
Interviewer:  Mm-mm. Do you ever heard something called a corn dodger?
911:  Yeah. I don't know what it is. Corn dodger. Seems to me I've had one of those. But I don't know what it is.
Interviewer:  Do you remember what it? #1 Looked like #
911:  #2 Looked # like a hot dog. Didn't it?
Interviewer:  It's kinda long.
911:  Oh is it? Long and round or is it square? I think it's long and round like a hot dog. I think. Dip it in mustard.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I might be wrong. But that's what came to my mind when you said corn dodger. {NS}
Interviewer:  Does it have something inside it? Like a does it have meat inside it or? #1 is it #
911:  #2 Well that made me # Think of a hot dog. but I'm trying to think if if that I'm thinking of a hot dog covered up with that corn meal stuff. Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about something um with peas and beats and carrots and so forth. You call those?
911:  Vegetables.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. You'd grow them in a?
911:  Garden.
Interviewer:  Any special name for them if you grew them yourself?
911:  Mm. No I don't think not really. Might grow 'em myself. Might call 'em homegrown.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Well that's about all that I can think of.
Interviewer:  What would you call whiskey that is made illegally? That's made
911:  Moonshine.
Interviewer:  Any other names?
911:  Bathtub gin.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What about beer?
911:  Illegal beer?
Interviewer:  Beer that is made at home
911:  Homebrew.
Interviewer:  Okay.
911:  I've never done that now.
Interviewer:  {NS} You ever heard of people making moonshine around here?
911:  No. You'd get it too easy across the boarder. Don't need to fool with it.
Interviewer:  So liquor is a whole lot cheaper #1 across #
911:  #2 across # the boarder, yeah. {NW}
Interviewer:  Do they? I thought now they still make you pay Texas tax.
911:  Yeah you got to pay those tax. When you come across that bridge. But it is still cheap. {NW}
Interviewer:  Say something was cooking and made a good impression on your nostrils. You'd tell somebody just that just
911:  Smell that
Interviewer:  And you'd say this isn't an imitation maple syrup this is?
911:  The real thing.
Interviewer:  Or this is gen-
911:  genuine.
Interviewer:  And when sugar was sold um weighed of the barrel. You'd say it was sold?
911:  I don't remember that. When it is sold out of a barrel. Weigh down? Sold by the pound.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What would you? If you were going to buy something two or three hundred pounds at a time you'd say you were buying it?
911:  In bulk.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And a sweet spread that you could put on biscuits or toast?
911:  Jam or preserves.
Interviewer:  Or something else?
911:  Marmalade. Jam preserves.
Interviewer:  #1 Something #
911:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  like jam.
911:  Honey.
Interviewer:  But maybe apple.
911:  Apple butter.
Interviewer:  a- there's another thing.
911:  Oh there is? {NS} I don't know.
Interviewer:  Well it's like all of those things.
911:  Preserves jam marmalade apple butter.
Interviewer:  Wha- what was that first thing you mentioned?
911:  Preserves. Jam. {NS} Jelly.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And something you'd season food with?
911:  Salt, pepper.
Interviewer:  And if there was a bowl of apples and a child wanted one. He'd tell you?
911:  {NS} I want an apple.
Interviewer:  And you'd say it was these boys that did that. It must have been
911:  them.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay or it must have been one of
911:  those.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Do you ever say "One of them boys?"
911:  No. Well kidding around. There again we're back to the nary a one and stuff like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Now I might say, it had it was one of them.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Instead of one of those. That's kind of a flip-flop there. It just whichever came out.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  But I don't think I'd ever say it was one of them boys. Other than just kidding around. You know?
Interviewer:  #1 Imitating #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  or mimicking or whatever you want to call it. Just an
Interviewer:  You wouldn't say it seriously?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  And you'd say he doesn't live here, he lives
911:  there.
Interviewer:  Or he lives #1 over. #
911:  #2 over there. #
Interviewer:  Do you ever say yonder? Or yander?
911:  Kidding around. I might say he lives over yonder. Hmm.
Interviewer:  You hear that around here much?
911:  Eh you hear it some. {NS}
Interviewer:  And you tell someone don't do it that way do it
911:  this way.
Interviewer:  And if you don't have any money at all you'd say you're not rich you're
911:  Broke.
Interviewer:  Or you never had any money you're
911:  poor.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And you'd say when I was a child my father was poor but next door was a child what father was rich?
911:  Who's father was rich.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And if you have a lot of peach trees you say you have a peach
911:  orchard.
Interviewer:  And you ask somebody if that's his orchard and he'd tell you no I'm just the neighbor. He'd point to someone else and say he's the man
911:  who owns the orchard.
Interviewer:  And something that's um people make our of flour. Baked in loafs.
911:  Bread.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. What different kinds of bread?
911:  Hmm. White bread, rye bread {NW} {NS} French bread, corn bread.
Interviewer:  What is white bread have in it to make rise?
911:  Yeast.
Interviewer:  And {NS} you said there's two kinds of bread there's homemade bread and then there's?
911:  bread you get at the store. What do you want me to say? Store bought? I don't use it very much.
Interviewer:  Does that sound funny #1 to you? #
911:  #2 No. # I use it some. Sounds well store bought. {D: Do you you going have} homemade bread or store bought? I use it some. It's not {NW} you got I Let me try and explain something to you. I don't know if it makes any sense or not. I know the correct things to say.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  You know. I know that to tell somebody that "We are going to have store bought bread for supper." That's not correct. By any stretch my imagination is that correct English? {NW} But it is an easy way to talk. It's just a if I was talking to some people that I didn't know very well and then or you know if felt {NW} there's just no way that that would pop out of my mouth. It just and I wouldn't have to even watch it.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm #
911:  #2 I'd just # say we're going to have you know I- I don't know how I'd say it put on the spot I just If I had to say it I'd just. I'd probably refer to the name of the bread or something. The bread we got down at the store, didn't have time to make any.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  In just casual easy conversation among friends if I had to refer to it very possibly that it would pop out of me and say it well what we are going to have store bought bread for supper.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I-It's hard to explain. If I went away from here to someplace else I you know I wouldn't use it. I-I think #1 it's all in #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  what I learned when I was a kid. My parents took taught me the right way. And you never forget it. And that just like the ain't business and the store bought.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I know it- it's not right. And it just like I tried to explain its just an easy way to talk. But if I feel like it's going to be offensive to somebody or if their gonna think I'm stupid well I'm #1 not #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
911:  gonna use it. Do you understand what I'm tryna to say?
Interviewer:  Do you feel um
911:  Of course this is not a place where I go where I like um it's always been It's always seemed to me that well meet somebody I'd like for him at first think maybe I'm just kind of a dumb hick. {NW} I always like um figure you could sneak up on a man later if he's tryna to pull something and they go I'm going away from here a little bit that I have. {NW} Or anywhere even around. You go in there tryna show off being a smart boy somebody'll cut you down to size. You better go walking in there letting them think you are a dumb hick. And then catch 'em from a surprise. You know?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  {NW} I think that all reflects on the way we talk and and do things. Or at least the way I do. Cuz I always, I don't know. I'm just real easy going and its just ah it just takes a whole bunch of stuff to get me riled up. I think that just reflects on the way I talk. But if I have to turn it on and go back to the correct proper way to do things cuz I think it's the place and time to do it I'll do it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. You were telling me yesterday about feeling um about change in the way you talk when you?
911:  Yeah I think that's the same thing. Ah. I just do whatever I'm comfortable at and I can {X} I can do it without having to sound like I'm just messing around or putting on.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I like to be comfortable. That's why ninety-nine percent of the time I act and talk the way I do.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  But if I'm someplace that a {NS} I don't what kinda of place it'd be in but if I feel like I gotta act like I gotta have a little sense people don't realize if the more we are we act that way all the time just being {NS: comfortable}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Ah. Well I get stiff with 'em and its not I don't have to force it. I can act Easterner or whatever you want to call it. big shot or something if I have to talk proper and there's nothing wrong with talking properly. It just it's easier to talk this way. To me.
Interviewer:  Do you try to change your pronunciation a little bit or? When you?
911:  What I maybe what I try and do is drop the drawl or the slur. Whatever it is if I feel like I need to be understood or if it's people I really don't know how to explain it. I don't know whether you are getting what I'm #1 talking about. I don't know. #
Interviewer:  #2 No I think # I understand what your saying. Would
911:  I'm not self-conscience of it. I'm going places in the world and talk to anybody the way I am talking now. #1 Less like #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  I oughta and I don't, the word dress it up isn't right. It it just hard to explain.
Interviewer:  Do you um. Where have you been that you feel like people if they find out you're from Texas or um you know or from the South if you'd consider this the South um that they're sort of you know make fun of you? Where
911:  Oh it never bothered me if anybody made fun of me. I don't change it cuz I figured somebody is going to make fun of me. That's not the point. That's ah I've never changed a way of doing something or talking cuz I figured somebody is gonna make fun of me
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  it hurts myself. I don't think I'm explaining it too good. Uh Um.. I really don't know how to explain it. I don't know. I can't pinpoint just single instance and say well at this certain place will I try to talk different then I do uh
Interviewer:  {D:Do you still go places that it's appropriate} just to?
911:  Just to probably to stand up there and talk a little louder and a little clearer and not use word like store bought or yonder or y'all. You know and and refer {NS} to friend to how about {NS} well whatever would come to mind at the proper time. {NS} But usually the way I am I'll if I'm going figure I'm gonna have to do all that kinda stuff I won't go anyway.
Interviewer:  {NW}
911:  So it doesn't come up too often.
Interviewer:  {NW} You like traveling much?`
911:  Not very much. I really don't.
Interviewer:  {NW}
911:  Ah...I don't know. It just {NS} I just never cared a whole lot about it. and see pictures of things and then get people get all hepped up right away they want to go see the real thing. I just don't care much about it. Um. To me to get in a car and go five or six hundred miles. That's a drag. That's a pain to me. After I get there I don't care much about it. I just want I'm dreading having to get in that car and go back to the house.
Interviewer:  {NW}
911:  Uh I took that trip last Summer to California. I drove about three four hundred miles a day.
Interviewer:  Mm.
911:  and found a place to stop and just took it easy. Now people take that trip and drive twelve fourteen hours breaking their neck to get there. If I gotta do that, I won't go. I hate it. {NW} Sitting in that car for that many hours just tears me up. I'll go as far as I feel like I want to and find a nice place where I can sit down and relax and go to bed early and get up the next morning and get going some more but those crash trips these people take they just don't have enough money to get me to go.
Interviewer:  Yeah I know what you mean about that.
911:  Well I just don't care. I don't like airplanes either. It has to be an emergency to get me on a airplane
Interviewer:  {NW}
911:  So I suppose if I liked airplanes I might wanna But no I can't say that. That if I liked airplanes I might wanna might wanna travel more. Traveling just doesn't do a whole lot for me. I like it where I am and that's fine. Every once and a while I enjoy a trip. We took last Summer. Saw a bunch a things, I can talk about. Now I enjoyed Los Vegas. I might go back there. But I got a lot gamble to me {NW}
Interviewer:  Gambling's not legal in Texas is it?
911:  No. Doggone. I better not say that on tape. It's not but it's controlled gambling there's nothing wrong with it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  They say it's bad. Yeah Los Vegas mafia and all that kinda stuff gets in there and tears you up some but I'll tell you what they got they ante up pretty good to the state taxes off all that gambling and stuff. I don't see Los Vegas sinking into the ocean or anything like that. And I don't ever see Los Vegas up on the head of the list when they put out the crime rate statistics. Those people they keep the house clean.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  And and certain places control property that just I just people gonna gamble. Whether you legalize it or don't legalize it. People will gamble. I know some guys that will that will gamble on on two cockroaches running across the table or every football game that comes along every baseball game that comes along. They go on the golf course and if you can't if they can't play for fifty dollars they won't play. Just not going to do it for fun. I won't do it. Now that's not to say that I gotta go out there and bet the house but two or five dollars or ten dollars I'll go play golf. but a man come to me and says let's play golf and the first thing I'm gonna say how much you gonna play for?
Interviewer:  That's legal isn't it? Just
911:  Well between yourselves.
Interviewer:  Mm-mm.
911:  But a man tell me go out and play golf for fun I'm gonna stay at the house. and I'm not trying to make a living at it, but I got when I am. but I've got to have something to play for. Now I can have some playing cards.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  If it's somebody I want to beat real bad. Well I can get enough going right there to play. I don't need to play for money. But I just like to play for a little money. It just seems to juices thing up a little bit. {NS} But a
Interviewer:  What about the horse racing. Didn't they vote?
911:  No they voted that down too. I don't care anything about that. I don't like horse race. If they put a horse racing in here. I don't understand it. I never tried to learn it because I've never had a chance to do it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  If they had legalized it and put horse racing in down here
Interviewer:  #1 {NS} #
911:  #2 I'd expect I'd learn # about all this two dollar stuff and when to place in show business and go do a little but Oh and I'd probably like it then. #1 but I just #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  I think I've been once. And a I was quarter horse racing. I've been to a quarter horse races. I've never been to a pure breed race.
Interviewer:  Quarter horse racing is real fast isn't it?
911:  Yeah they just race a short distance. You've lost your money before you know the race started. {NW} But a I don't know. Oh it just fun. Those people control the state it took years and years to get liquor by the drink. and it hadn't ruined the state. They're picking a bunch of tax money now this isn't doing you any good here is it?
Interviewer:  Oh go ahead. But they didn't used to have liquor #1 by the drink #
911:  #2 by the # drink. No you could go to the liquor store and buy a bottle but you couldn't go in bar and buy anything but a glass of beer. You couldn't sell you liquor by the drink. Unless it private club. Then it costs you a bunch of money to join because they had to pay thousands of dollars to get a license. {NS} Now they have legalized liquor by the drink well it's pure stupid not to have it because now a man will go in a bar and drink two or three drinks and go home. Before that he'd go {NS} a whole bottle and {D: bottle himself} up out of his skull. {NW} So i- it's a certain religious organization that a got pretty good control of the state of Texas and they whip that stuff around pretty good. They're fitting gambling too but Their the ones that sneak out behind the barn and do all this stuff before anybody else and they always saying their against it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I don't #1 want to step on any. #
Interviewer:  #2 What's it like just #
911:  Now I don't want to step on any toes, you may be one. {NW}
Interviewer:  Now what a around here I guess the majority of people are Catholic?
911:  Yeah but the Baptists got hold of the state by the throat. You Baptist?
Interviewer:  No.
911:  Now, they got #1 by the state by the #
Interviewer:  #2 I figured it'd be less #
911:  throat and they just against everything but they're the first ones that'll do it when it shows up. {NW} They go out of town to do it, but they just {NW} When I- When I was growing up around here the Baptist preacher in town is just We getting off subject here that I'm liable to say something better not go on that tape but {NS} It just it just ridiculous {NS} there's just nothing wrong with legalized controlled gambling because people are gonna gamble. There's a guy that's gonna pick up his pay check on Saturday and he's gonna lose it. Whether it's legal or not.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  And might as well get the state get some benefit out of it. But they don't want it. #1 Try now #
Interviewer:  #2 Oh so #
911:  #1 I'm #
Interviewer:  #2 gambling # Do you like? Just
911:  Mainly I like to play cards. I like to gamble on the golf course but aside from that I like to play cards I like to shoot the dice a little bit but I pace myself. I don't ever lose anymore than I can afford. I'm not gonna lose the grocery money but there's there's some guys that they gonna get paid on Saturday and they'll find a way to lose it Saturday afternoon. See you might as well take it from him and let the next man they gon- they going to blow it they gonna find a dice game or card game they gonna lose that money before the sun sets on pay day. and a so all I'm saying is if there were three or four Los Vegas' in the state of Texas I think it would be a good but like around Houston. Maybe around Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. Have you know I'm not necessarily for scattering it all over the state. If they could build us some nice casinos around well I just don't see anything wrong with it. but if people are going to go in there and get themselves in trouble and lose more than they can afford to. Well they were gonna do that anyway.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  They just costing them money to get to Los Vegas to do it now. But I'll say that that there's some people that, this a low income area. Down here.
Interviewer:  So around Brownsville?
911:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  #1 Is there #
911:  #2 Is that all #
Interviewer:  Anywhere around the border?
911:  Yeah well around Brownsville {X} and there's Rio Grande Valley it's all it's getting up.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  But it- it's just historically been a low income area. and those low income people if they had a place to shoot dice on a Saturday night they'd never get home with a penny in their pay check.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Now you don't legalized gambling to that extent here. Those poor people get wiped out. They'd lose their house car and everything else.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS}
911:  A they do it now at the beer parlor. {NW} Sure don't publicize this thing. But I know these people. They get paid on Saturday and take fifteen dollars home with the old ladies so she can buy groceries for the week and they go drink the rest of it up. If there was gambling they'd go gamble it up. {NS} So that's why I say to scatter something like that down here it might be kinda bad. Uh.
Interviewer:  What about in Mexico? Is it legal there?
911:  I don't think so. I think horse races those are dog racing. something is legal in Mexico. I don't think wide open casino gambling is legal though. and that's where {X} but if Mexico would open that up along the border they'd really drag it in. If they'd legalized gambling in the border towns like right here in {X} and Loredo and across from El Paso, holy smokes. Make people drag all their money within smelling distance of the border.
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah #
911:  #2 I # I don't know why they don't do it. Course I'd be afraid to gamble in Mexico.
Interviewer:  What does?
911:  I don't know. I'd have to be able to be pretty close to that bridge. If I was to go over there and some cat over there see me hauling a couple thousand dollars at dice table I'd be a little scared of walking across the parking lot. {NS}
Interviewer:  Yeah. {NS} Um talking about bread. Um Something th- that's round and has a whole in the center.
911:  Doughnut.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Any other names for doughnut?
911:  Mm. All words I've heard but don't use if you call 'em I'll tell you you've heard 'em but I don't ever remember using anything but doughnut.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about something that you make up a batter and fry three or four of these and?
911:  Fritters?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Any other name for that?
911:  I just usually call 'em fritters no I don't know Fritters I don't ever remember eating 'em more than just a few times #1 but I #
Interviewer:  #2 what # What about something you eat with syrup and
911:  Pancakes.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. That's different from fritters?
911:  {NW} Yeah. Fritters are little smaller and have a little rougher to 'em. I think.
Interviewer:  And talking about how much flour would be in sack you say a sack might have ten?
911:  Pounds.
Interviewer:  And the inside part of the egg is the?
911:  Yolk.
Interviewer:  What color is that?
911:  Yellow.
Interviewer:  And if you cook them in water you call this?
911:  Hard boiled.
Interviewer:  Hard boiled
911:  Eggs.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What if you crack them and let them fall out of the shell into hot water?
911:  Well I'm gonna have to guess is that called is that poached?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And do you ever see a hog peeled?
911:  A hog?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  I saw one. Never want to see another one particularly. I don't that kind of stuff I saw one killed one time that old boy tryna kill it with a sledgehammer. Hit it over the head about six times. The poor thing wouldn't die.
Interviewer:  Mm.
911:  but that's kinda a poor way to do it.
Interviewer:  Did you see 'em cut 'em up or?
911:  No. I am against violence. {NW}
Interviewer:  What do you call the the kind of pork that you can use for cooking with beans or something? the the salt
911:  Oh. Uh I don't know what you call it. {X} comes in pork chops that little bitty pieces of of bacon?
Interviewer:  Well, do you ever hear of side meat or salt pork or side belly or fat back?
911:  Yeah. I've heard all those. But I don't remember ever using 'em for anything I've heard one place or another {X} what you said fat uh fat back?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Yeah I don't remember ever using it in particularly though.
Interviewer:  What do you call a side of the hog? What do you call that?
911:  The side?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Talking about the ribs?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And the kind of meat that you buy already sliced to eat with eggs?
911:  {NW} Bacon?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Do you ever hear people talk about a side of bacon or the middle of the bacon?
911:  No. I've heard of talking about a side of bacon
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about that outside part that you cut off before you slice it?
911:  The fat on a bacon now?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  The outside parts cut off.. I don't know the fat?
Interviewer:  Well no it's actually the animal's skin.
911:  Skin.
Interviewer:  You call that the?
911:  Hide.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Do you ever hear it called the bacon rind or #1 pig skin? #
911:  #2 Mm-hmm. # Bacon rind? Yeah.
Interviewer:  And the person who kills and sells meat is a?
911:  butcher.
Interviewer:  and if meat's been kept too long you say that it's?
911:  Spoiled. {NW}
Interviewer:  And a kind of um you could take the trimmings and slice 'em up and grind 'em and stuff them in in the intestines and you'd call that?
911:  I don't know but I wouldn't eat it.
Interviewer:  What about um something that you eat besides bacon.
911:  Sausage?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
911:  I don't like it very much. Just from what you said I go ahead. {NW}
Interviewer:  What inside parts of the hog can people eat?
911:  I don't know because I won't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Interviewer:  You don't like hog meat at all?
911:  Yeah but I don't like that inside stuff. You talking about the tripe?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  No I never have and never will.
Interviewer:  What is the tripe now? That's
911:  Its intestines, isn't it? Cut up.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  no ma'am
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of chip?
911:  Chitlins?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Well I just heard of it. It's a Southern expression isn't it?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Kidding around about Southerns and talk about what is it? Chitlins and greens or something.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. People don't eat either of those around here?
911:  Oh I eat greens. I like that. but yeah I imagine I might eat a Oh there is a Mexican dish called menudo {C: Spanish} It's kinda a soup. It's got cow tripe floating around in it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Oh, well I don't go for that. I just gotta I know I just #1 Don't #
Interviewer:  #2 Just #
911:  #1 care #
Interviewer:  #2 the thought of it # of it or?
911:  I suppose. {X} Tell me it's good but I don't care for it. I guess it's the thought of it It's a mental thing but I don't like that kinda stuff.
Interviewer:  What kinds of greens do people eat around here? {NS}
911:  Hmm. Spinach mustard greens. I guess what we'd call mustard greens or collared greens or just pure greens.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
911:  #2 And then um. # Um. {X} spinach and greens and and um. Come on you tell me. Cuz I don't ever remember it.
Interviewer:  What is that? Turnip.
911:  Turnip greens and seems to me there's another one. Well I guess turnip greens cuz I was trying to {NS}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Do ever hear people talk about the half {D:slit} or the liver and the likes? Of a hog.
911:  No.
Interviewer:  And after you kill a hog what can you do make with the meat from its head?
911:  Oh lord. I don't know. Oh you barbecue the darn thing or something. I saw one one time, but I didn't eat any.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of- of head cheese or #1 sounds #
911:  #2 Yeah # I've heard of head cheese. Figured that's what it was. I Never eaten any.
Interviewer:  What about some scrapple or {D:pawn hot}? Have you ever heard of that?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  What about from the hog's liver? What can you make?
911:  {NW} Why we are getting onto another subject that I don't know.
Interviewer:  Okay. Mov-
911:  {NW} I'm just you kidding I don't know.
Interviewer:  You'll love this one. What about the blood?
911:  {NS} I suppose in people that eat that rest of the stuff make gravy out of it. I don't know. {NW}
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of blood sausage or blood pudding?
911:  No. Thank the lord no I haven't.
Interviewer:  {NS} And say if you had some butter that was kept
911:  #1 too long. #
Interviewer:  #2 You mean to #
911:  tell me that actually some people cook meat with hog blood? I didn't think #1 that. #
Interviewer:  #2 They catch # it right after they when they cut the hog. It bleeds a lot. They catch it then and
911:  #1 {D:Shoo-weeh} #
Interviewer:  #2 Say there's #
911:  I never been that hungry.
Interviewer:  I've- I've never eaten it either but {NS} I think it would be kinda dangerous. because I am not sure I if you there may be some laws related to that now or selling it or something because th- the blood would would tend to, you know? Carry disease and things. I think more than
911:  I guess. {NW}
Interviewer:  but
911:  I don't know. We don't have to worry about me breaking that law. {NW}
Interviewer:  What about if butter was kept too long and it didn't taste right? You would say it was?
911:  Oh I don't know. Would the word rancid would fit there I guess. Or Spoiled I'd probably say spoiled.
Interviewer:  What about milk that um?
911:  soured.
Interviewer:  Well not soured really but you let it get thick. You call it?
911:  Cream.
Interviewer:  #1 Do you ever get #
911:  #2 clabbered? #
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Clabbered.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What's clabbered milk like?
911:  Spoiled. {NW}
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear about people making anything out of that?
911:  Yeah. Well that's uh That's whipped cream, isn't it? Whipping cream.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Isn't that
Interviewer:  Any kinda cheese they make out of
911:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 it? #
911:  I don't know about it but there's a cheese they make out of it, spoiled stuff.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} And the first thing you have to do after milking to get the impurities out you have to? {NW} {NS}
911:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Well sometimes people would take a real fine cloth and they
911:  Oh, strain it.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. {NS} And {NS} kinda fruit that that's a kinda citrus fruit that grows and in some sections of Texas.
911:  Oranges.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Say you had a bowl of oranges and you went to get one and there weren't any left? You'd say the oranges are
911:  Gone.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and
911:  Or all gone. {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear just say they're all?
911:  #1 No. #
Interviewer:  #2 Say they're # all gone?
911:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Say that if your um cooking bacon as you are cooking it the bacon gets smaller you'd say it does what?
911:  Shrinks.
Interviewer:  Or another word for that.
911:  Yeah I know but I don't know what it is.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear people say swivel or shrivel or?
911:  Shrivel yeah. Shriveled up.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
911:  More often than not. {X} I've heard it used that way, shriveled up.
Interviewer:  What would you, what have you heard it used about with?
911:  I suppose with something like bacon. Shrinking when you
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  When you cook. It's shriveled up. {NS}
Interviewer:  And the inside part of the cherry?
911:  The seed.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Have you ever heard another name for that?
911:  Pit.
Interviewer:  What about bone?
911:  No, I don't think so. {NS}
Interviewer:  And in a peach? {NS}
911:  Well there again, seed.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about that part inside the seed?
911:  Peach seed?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Do you ever crack one open?
911:  No I don't think so.
Interviewer:  And there's one kind of um peach that you have to cut the seed out of. It's real hard to get the- the meat off the seed.
911:  You're looking for a kind of peach?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. A name for that #1 type. #
911:  #2 Yeah. # No, I don't know.
Interviewer:  What about a- a peach that comes free of the seed real easy?
911:  Mm
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of a queen peach or pressed peach or free stone peach or?
911:  Free stone. But I never knew what it meant. Now I've just seen things that are free stoned. Peaches I guess you'd talking about the ones that come off real easy then. Maybe I that's what would be my association. I just heard peaches. {NS} But I've heard that word, yeah. That one of the which ones you read off.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {NS} What about the part of the apple that you don't eat?
911:  The core.
Interviewer:  And when you cut up apples and dry them you say you were making? {NS} {NS}
911:  Beats me.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear them called schnitz?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  What kinds of nuts grow around here? Or would people at the store?
911:  the only kind I know of that that grows around here and it doesn't grow much is a few few trees pecans.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  And walnuts you can buy in the store they don't grow around here though. unless you buy them all any kind you want at the store. Only kind I ever seen grown here are pecans.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What other nuts would people get at the store?
911:  Peanuts walnuts hickory nuts. {NW}
Interviewer:  What about a- a nut that is kinda shaped like your eye?
911:  And light brown color? Almond.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  And any other name for peanuts?
911:  Well. Not around here. I guess maybe I've have heard the word what is it goober?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I've heard that. Never used it. I've heard someplace call 'em goober and I don't know where but I just to me they're just peanuts
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about um you know what a walnut? Do you ever see one that just came off the tree?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  Well um. So well to open it you'd you'd have to crack the? {NS} Or a pecan you'd have to crack the?
911:  Oh. {NS} I don't know what I'd call that. I know what it's called but it's not the seed it's uh covering I don't know what the word is but
Interviewer:  Would you call it a shell or a hull or a ?
911:  uh probably hull, yeah. Okay.
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Hull.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And what sorts of things would people raise in a garden around here?
911:  You want specific things?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Tomatoes carrots cucumbers onions radish. Um maybe a little corn. Hmm. {NS} That's about it.
Interviewer:  What do you call the kind of corn that's tender enough to eat off the cob? {NS}
911:  Corn on the cob {NW}
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear it called roasted ears?
911:  Roasted ears yeah.
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing?
911:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  What about the green covering on the corn?
911:  I guess again we'd go back to hull. I don't know. {NS}
Interviewer:  And the stringy stuff?
911:  Corn silk.
Interviewer:  And to say it grows at the top- top of the corn stalk?
911:  We're talking about the corn? The top of the stalk?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Just the little What about on a graduate cap the thing that hangs down?
911:  Oh. {NS} I don't know.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear it called a tassel?
911:  #1 Tassel. #
Interviewer:  #2 Or tassel #
911:  Yeah. tassel. okay tassel.
Interviewer:  And you mentioned um tomatoes what do you call ones that don't get bigger than this?
911:  Mm cherry tomatoes.
Interviewer:  What about the kind of onions that you pull up and eat before they get big? {NS} Do you know what I mean?
911:  Mm-mm.
Interviewer:  Those
911:  The little bitty ones.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
911:  I don't know what their called. Those are the long ones with just little bitty round {X} I don't know what you call those.
Interviewer:  And you'd say along with your meat you might have a baked
911:  Potato.
Interviewer:  What different kinds of potatoes are there? {NS}
911:  Well there's the little bitty new potatoes.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Small red ones kinda. And then just regular potato. As you call it, Idaho potato.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Regular is what we make a baked potato out of.
Interviewer:  What about the potatoes that are red on the inside?
911:  Red on the inside?
Interviewer:  Sort of orange on the inside.
911:  Oh um. um. Sweet potato, yam?
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing?
911:  Yeah to me it is.
Interviewer:  And a- a leafy vegetable that grows like this?
911:  Cabbage.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And
911:  You might could grow some of that in that garden too, I forgot that.
Interviewer:  Say if you saw several of those you would say um? These
911:  Heads of cabbage.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Would you ever use the word heads when talking about children? So if someone had five children you'd say they have five heads of children?
911:  I never have.
Interviewer:  What about if someone had about fourteen children? You'd say he really had a {NW} What of children?
911:  A bunch.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Do you ever hear people say a passel?
911:  Yeah I've heard it.
Interviewer:  How was people use that?
911:  Same way. It's a passel of kids over there.
Interviewer:  Anything else they'd say about the size of kids?
911:  Oh yeah oh. Put it to just about anything. {NW} {X} You could {X} lots of things just almost thing where there was a bunch. You'd call it a passel of cows or
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Uh just pretty darn anything. Now well I wouldn't say anything. You, I would couldn't see putting it to uh well like these cans of soda pop. There are a whole bunch of them. Now I don't necessarily think that's a that's a passel of soda pops over there. I don't think I'd say that. I don't know how you'd define it down in. I guess maybe more into moving living things is where I'd put passel.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I might be wrong but that is as close as I can come.
Interviewer:  What if you were talking about say land someone had about five, six hundred acres. You'd say he had a
911:  and you might could put that there. passel, You might put passel on in there I don't know that I would.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear people say right smart?
911:  Oh yeah that's a right smart. oh. {NS} Automobile.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  House.
Interviewer:  What #1 about right #
911:  #2 clothes #
Interviewer:  smart meaning a lot? It's a right
911:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Sm- # smart
911:  right That's a right smart bunch of land over there. But I don't use it I don't use it much at all. #1 I don't #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  Can't think of the last time I did use it. But I've heard it used.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And something that um. Kinda vegetable that's green it's kinda long it's sort of bristly outside and sticky inside?
911:  Bristly outside and sticky inside? Okra.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And what different kinds of beans grow around here?
911:  Mm..
Interviewer:  Or people get at the store?
911:  Green beans like lima beans.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  {NW} Pinto beans kidney beans. Oh, pork and beans. {NW} What else, I don't know.
Interviewer:  If you want to get the beans out of the pot you say you have to? What the beans?
911:  Hmm you got me.
Interviewer:  You say you have to shell 'em or hull?
911:  #1 Oh, shell them. #
Interviewer:  #2 Hull them. #
911:  Okay, I'd say shell. #1 If you #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. #
911:  Problem here is you getting into stuff that I just {NW} it just nothing I ever use. #1 You know. #
Interviewer:  #2 Hmm-mm. #
911:  The minute you say 'em I know what but it just words that I wouldn't use. The minute you say it I'd say who yeah I've heard somebody say shell these beans but You know that's why they don't come to mind real quick.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Have you ever heard of butter beans?
911:  Oh yeah, yellow ones?
Interviewer:  They're different from lima beans?
911:  A little bigger, different color.
Interviewer:  What color are lima?
911:  Green.
Interviewer:  What's the difference between green beans and string beans or snap beans?
911:  Green beans or What'd you say green beans or what?
Interviewer:  String beans or snap beans.
911:  Well green beans what I'm more familiar with that's the long round one or even the short round ones with kinda a dark green
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Do you eat the pod and everything?
911:  Yeah. Alright that's string bean that's what I am most familiar with. Now you mentioned a snap beans or uh what was the other?
Interviewer:  Green bean
911:  green bean Green beans and string beans to me are the same thing.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I imagine maybe snap greens are the same thing, I don't use it though.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} Um little crooked necked vegetables? The little yellow crocked necked
911:  Squash.
Interviewer:  What different kinds?
911:  well They're green and yellow.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  it's usually called a sometimes I heard people refer to the uh. Well there's another kind that's green and stri- it's striped. {NW} I've heard that referred to as Mexican squash.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  The other is just squash. Yellow squash or green squash.
Interviewer:  What about something that um the white flat kind of squash. Do you ever see that? {NS}
911:  White flat. {NW} Round?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Well very similar to the little green one isn't it? I guess. {X} I guess I've seen it good
Interviewer:  Any special name for it?
911:  No I don't think so.
Interviewer:  What about something you make pie out of at Thanksgiving?
911:  Pumpkin.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And the little umbrella shaped things that grows out in the fields after it rains?
911:  Toad stool mushroom.
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing?
911:  No {X} me mushroom's edible toadstool's poisonous.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} What different kinds of melons do people get around here?
911:  Watermelon mushmelon, cantaloupe.
Interviewer:  What's the difference between a mushmelon and a cantaloupe?
911:  Well a cantaloupe is what kinda of tannish orange on the inside and mushmelon is green.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. On the inside or?
911:  No, what is it? I don't know well that if I ever saw mushmelon that's white on the inside.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  I don't know, I don't remember the last one I ate. I like cantaloupe but I
Interviewer:  Are they about the same shape or?
911:  No mushmelon is rounder isn't it? I don't know been a long time since I've seen a mushmelon. {NS}
Interviewer:  Is that? What about the honey?
911:  Honey dew?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  That's yellow isn't it?
Interviewer:  That's different from- from the mushmelon too?
911:  I think so. {NS}
Interviewer:  Something that people smoke would be?
911:  Cigarettes?
Interviewer:  and?
911:  Tobacco.
Interviewer:  Well #1 cigarettes #
911:  #2 cigars #
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Cigars.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and if someone asks you if you were able to do something you would say sure I
911:  I can.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and if you weren't able to you would say no I
911:  No I can't.
Interviewer:  And if you just refuse to. They ask you will you do it?
911:  No I won't.
Interviewer:  And you'd say um there was a really bad accident up the road but there wasn't any need to call the doctor because when we got there the people were what dead
911:  People were all dead.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Do you ever say they were done dead?
911:  #1 No. #
Interviewer:  #2 They're # already dead.
911:  Mm-mm. Done dead. No I don't believe so.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear people use the word done like that?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  And say the child was misbehaving you'd tell 'em you are not doing what you?
911:  should.
Interviewer:  Or what you what to do?
911:  ought to do?
Interviewer:  And say the child got a whipping you'd say I bet he did something he?
911:  shouldn't have.
Interviewer:  Or he
911:  shouldn't of
Interviewer:  But using the word ought. He did something that he
911:  oughtn't to have
Interviewer:  and
911:  Or oughtn't have
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  oughtn't to have
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And someone asks you about the possibility of you doing something like helping them with some work next or something. You'd say? Well I am not sure if I can help you but I
911:  #1 Um. #
Interviewer:  #2 Um. # I might
911:  be able to
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Do you ever say I might could? {NS}
911:  No. I might could Oh I don't think so. I've heard it. I might could help you. Now if I used it I wouldn't I don't think I'd end the sentence there. #1 The way you #
Interviewer:  #2 How #
911:  said a I might could
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I I would probably be inclined to tack on the I might could help you
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I just don't think I'd leave it hanging right there with might could.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  It just seems strange.
Interviewer:  Can you say you throw a ball and ask anybody to?
911:  Catch it.
Interviewer:  And I threw the ball and he?
911:  Caught it.
Interviewer:  And I have been fishing but I haven't
911:  caught anything {NS}
Interviewer:  And say that would be a hard mountain to
911:  climb.
Interviewer:  But last year my neighbor
911:  climbed it
Interviewer:  But I have never
911:  climbed it.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. {NS} And the kind of bird that can see in the dark?
911:  An owl.
Interviewer:  What different kinds of owls are there?
911:  Huh? {NS} Well let's see, I'm just to me their owls. Now I've heard of screech owls and hoot owls. Don't ask me what the difference is cuz I don't know.
Interviewer:  Hmm-hmm. You ever heard any superstitions about owls?
911:  Hmm. Superstitions about owls? Seems like I have. Seems like I have heard superstitions about owls {X} What the wise there supposed to be wise old owl. Is that what you mean by superstition?
Interviewer:  Yeah just- just different things like that.
911:  Yeah I've heard that. {X} ever heard anything else.
Interviewer:  What about a kind of bird that drills holes in trees?
911:  Woodpecker.
Interviewer:  Any other name for them?
911:  No woodpecker.
Interviewer:  You ever heard 'em called peckerwood?
911:  Yeah. But I don't ever use {NW} I've heard the word never used it so much to get about that bird pecking on that tree that's a woodpecker
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Some guy that's getting in my hair bothering me or that I am not too crazy about I am liable to call him a peckerwood.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Is it a very insulting word?
911:  It is when I use it like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} What about a black and white animal that's got a real strong smell?
911:  Well I might let me go back I might use that kidding around with somebody.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  But uh if I put it to somebody I am not kidding with I mean it pretty strong.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Now what now? {X}
Interviewer:  A black and white animal that's got a strong smell?
911:  Skunk or a polecat.
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing?
911:  To me it is. I'd say skunk.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What about a bushy tailed animal that can get up into trees?
911:  Squirrel.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What different kinds?
911:  Well around here there's mostly just little bitty ground squirrels.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  We don't have those big furry tailed tree squirrels too much. Mostly just those little bitty gray ones blowing holes in the ground
Interviewer:  Do they have stripes on their back?
911:  There's a dark stripe on the back of 'em I think.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Is it the same as a chipmunk?
911:  No I don't think so. {X} I don't know of any chipmunks around here either. {NS} But they're different from squirrels I think.
Interviewer:  What kinds of fish do people get in this area?
911:  Oh hell. {NS} Trout red fish red snapper catfish mullets bass. and I don't know there's a bunch more but I'm not a fisherman.
Interviewer:  Are those saltwater or ?
911:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  But what about freshwater?
911:  Well not much freshwater around here to fish in. Most of the fishing I ever hear up down here done out in the bay {X} you don't want to go.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Saltwater now they are getting these resacas and catch catfish and resacas if there's if they're freshwater cat like you'd catch resacas you can eat them. people people tend to not eat saltwater catfish though. {NS}
Interviewer:  If you wanted to go fishing then what is something you could dig up to go fishing with?
911:  A worm.
Interviewer:  Differ- are there different kinds or?
911:  I don't know I just a long reddish ones I guess.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS}