Interviewer:  {NS} Um. You were talking about the fish. And then what else do they get from the gulf besides fish?
911:  Shrimp. You talking about edible stuff? Shrimp crab.
Interviewer:  Say if you wanted to buy some of that you'd ask for two or three pounds {C: loud noise}
911:  Shrimp. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about something that comes in shells?
911:  Clam.
Interviewer:  {NW}
911:  #1 Crab #
Interviewer:  #2 something # That pearls grow in.
911:  Oh a a oyster.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And what would you hear making a big noise around a lake at night?
911:  {NS} Frogs.
Interviewer:  What do you call the big ones?
911:  Bullfrogs.
Interviewer:  What about the other kinds of frogs? {NS}
911:  Hold on call 'em?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Just frogs. Well a some people call 'em toads I think. I don't know why they don't just call 'em frogs.
Interviewer:  The ones that hop around on the land. You call those? Toads or frogs?
911:  I'd call 'em frogs. #1 I #
Interviewer:  #2 What about # the the little green ones? That get up in the trees and come out after it rains? {NS}
911:  I don't know if we have those around here. Little green ones. Yeah I guess suppose we do but {NS} I think I'd just still 'em frogs you throw me another name out there and I would probably recognize it but
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of spring frogs or rain frogs or?
911:  No. No I don't recognize it.
Interviewer:  And something that you'd find in a in a freshwater stream that looks kinda like a lobster.
911:  {NS} Crawfish.
Interviewer:  And a hard shelled animal that can its neck and legs into its shell?
911:  Oh a turtle.
Interviewer:  This is fo- what different kinds are there? {NS}
911:  Well around here mostly the ones I've seen are the those hard shelled ones that um {NS} and then those little flat shelled ones.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  But the only two around here. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about the ones that get in the water?
911:  {NS} Well both of those get in the water. {NS} In resacas you find both of those.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Especially those little soft shell ones.
Interviewer:  {NS} What about one that just stays on land? {NW}
911:  You looking for another name?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I don't know. I don't know that we have any around here that stay just on land.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of a turtle called a gopher or cooter or terrapin?
911:  I've heard of the word terrapin.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  But I- I've heard the other two. {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you use the word terrapin yourself?
911:  No I don't think. no I don't know that I ever have no.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And {NS} you say um horses gallop but people?
911:  Run.
Interviewer:  And you say he he was feeling so good that he what all the way home?
911:  Ran all the way home.
Interviewer:  And you'd say he has?
911:  Run all the way home.
Interviewer:  And {NS} you'd say a bee stung me in my hand. {NS}
911:  Hurt.
Interviewer:  It got bigger.
911:  Swole up.
Interviewer:  And it's still pretty badly?
911:  Swollen.
Interviewer:  And if a bee stings you your hand will?
911:  Swell up.
Interviewer:  And say you got someone some medicine you go in and say why haven't you? What your medicine?
911:  Why haven't you taken your medicine?
Interviewer:  And the person would say I already?
911:  Took it.
Interviewer:  And in another hour I'll?
911:  Take it again.
Interviewer:  And a kind of insect that flies around the light and tries to fly into it? {NS} It tries like say if you leave a- a light on.
911:  Oh. #1 and #
Interviewer:  #2 bug? # Uh-huh.
911:  A particular kind of bug?
Interviewer:  It is attracted to light. {NS} {NS}
911:  I don't know what they are. They are bugs.
Interviewer:  What about an insect that eats holes in your wool clothes?
911:  Moth.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And talking about several of those you are taking about several?
911:  Moths.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of a candle fly or moth miller or? It's a kind of insect that flies around the light.
911:  Yeah miller I've never heard of it till I've heard it from my wife though. I don't know what we call 'em. Just call 'em bugs or moths.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  She calls 'em millers. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about the insect that has a little light in its tail?
911:  Lightning bug.
Interviewer:  Is that the one that has a light in its tail or in its eyes?
911:  No in its tail.
Interviewer:  Do you ever see one that has a- a light in its eyes?
911:  I don't think so.
Interviewer:  And the kind of insect that flies around at night and bites you and make you #1 itchy? #
911:  #2 Mosquito. #
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Mosquito. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about a a tiny red insect that'll get on your skin?
911:  Chigger.
Interviewer:  Any other name for that?
911:  Red bug.
Interviewer:  {NS:background noise} Which would you be more likely to use?
911:  Red bug probably.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} And a insect that hops around in the grass?
911:  Grasshopper.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear 'em called a hoppergrass?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  {NS: background noise} And if your were gonna go fishing a- a small fish you could use for bait?
911:  A minnow.
Interviewer:  And if you haven't cleaned a room in a long time up in the ceiling in the corner you might find a?
911:  Cobweb.
Interviewer:  {NS} And outside on a on a bush you might find a? {NS} Something similar to that stretched across a bush?
911:  {NS} It'd be the same thing.
Interviewer:  You'd call it a cobweb whether it's inside or outside?
911:  Yes. {NS} Mm-hmm. {NS}
Interviewer:  Does that have a spider in it?
911:  Most often.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And an insect that um is about this size a couple inches long or so its got four shiny wings on it? And its got sort of a hard little beck to it? It'll be around damp places.
911:  Mud dauber a wasp a yellow jacket.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Hornet.
Interviewer:  What about a um talking about the wasp talking about about several of those you'd be talking about several?
911:  Wasps.
Interviewer:  Does a mud dauber sting you? {NW}
911:  Mm yeah to me a mud dauber is just about the same thing as a yellow jacket.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
911:  #2 Pretty # close.
Interviewer:  Where does a yellow jacket build a nest?
911:  Usually under the eaves of the house.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {NS:birds} Well a do you ever hear of um a kind of insect that won't sting you but it's about this long or so? {NS}
911:  In the same family as these wasps or hornets?
Interviewer:  #1 I don't #
911:  #2 or #
Interviewer:  I don't know think its really related to-
911:  A bee.
Interviewer:  #1 A Do you ever hear of a #
911:  #2 a bee #
Interviewer:  a dragonfly?
911:  Oh yeah a dragonfly. We got a lot of them around here.
Interviewer:  Any other name for dragonfly? {NS}
911:  I don't think so. The little things you talking about I always called 'em dragonflies.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about snake doctor or snake feeder or mosquito hawk?
911:  Never heard of that.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear darning needle? {NW}
911:  For an animal? An insect?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Uh-uh.
Interviewer:  {NS} And um the parts of the tree that grow under the ground are called the
911:  The roots.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of using certain kinds of roots or vines for medicine?
911:  {NW} {NS} Roots or vine? {NS} I suppose I've heard of it Roots and vines. Like herbs and stuff like that? Family home remedies? I don't know specifically which ones though. {NS}
Interviewer:  Are any people around here that maybe that the Latin people are- are they very superstitious or? Do they try to?
911:  I think that they there you go back to the older ones a old superstitions and stuff like that {NS} a about home cures and stuff like that maybe some. {NW} {D: not over the} the majority of those people are are catholics.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  {D:And I ain't got} it takes a lot of that superstition business out of 'em maybe. but not hey I would not say they were overly superstitious no.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about the evil eye? Do people believe in that much here?
911:  No. Not to my knowledge.
Interviewer:  Have you heard of it?
911:  The ojo malo {C: Spanish}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {NW}
911:  Oh kidding around now. Not anything serious though.
Interviewer:  How's that how's the evil eye supposed to effect you? How's? {NW}
911:  Oh I guess it's like a curse I suppose. Put the evil eye on you but I never heard of it being {NS} any big thing or practice around here. I heard that expression ojo malo {C: Spanish} possibly way back yonder they may have had something that they talked about but I'm not
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  not that I'm familiar with. {NS}
Interviewer:  The kinda tree that you tap for syrup? {NS}
911:  {NW:grunt} {NS} Maple tree.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What would you call a big group of those growing together? {NS}
911:  Huh. {NS} I don't know. There aren't any around here. {NS}
Interviewer:  What kind of trees grow around here?
911:  Ebony Mesquite Retama Huisache um. Well other than your citrus trees and a few avocado trees and {NW} mainly mainly mesquite and ebony.
Interviewer:  What about the re-?
911:  Retama?
Interviewer:  What does that look like?
911:  {NW} Oh it's it's not a big tree. It's got yellow flowers on it
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Is it good for anything?
911:  No. Yellow flowers. I don't know anything that it's good for.
Interviewer:  I mean it's not good lumber or anything like that?
911:  I've never heard of that. No. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about a tree that is a shade tree? It's got long white limbs and white scaly bark that you can peel off? It's got little knobs or balls growing on it.
911:  {NS} Hackberry?
Interviewer:  No something.
911:  Hackberry that's one I forgot grows around here a lot. But I don't know this one you're talking about. {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of a Syc-
911:  Sycamore!
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Not around here.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear that called a button wood tree or plain tree?
911:  Yeah button wood tree. Something happened under the button wood tree. Oh they formed the New York Stock Exchange under a button wood tree I think. {NW} That's where I've heard it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {NS}
911:  But they aren't any here. {NS}
Interviewer:  It is kind of a a tree that it's got big white flowers and shiny green leaves? Sort of a symbol of the South.
911:  Magnolia.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And a shrub or a bush that the leaves turn bright red in the Fall? It's got little clusters of berries on it. {NS}
911:  Mm.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of a Sumac or {D:shoe lace}?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  What about a a flowering bush? Called a mountain laurel or rhododendron or
911:  #1 Oh I've heard #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
911:  of mountain laurel yeah.
Interviewer:  Does that grow around here?
911:  I think some yeah.
Interviewer:  What else that looks like that maybe a little smaller?
911:  Than a mountain laurel?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Hmm. {NS} I don't know. {NS}
Interviewer:  And the kind of tree that George Washington cut down?
911:  Cherry tree. None of 'em here.
Interviewer:  What different kinds of berries would people get here or get from the store here? {NS}
911:  Well just about every kind. I don't know many berries that grow here. {D: It's just not there} you go up the store though you can get {NS} Now fresh I don't know. You got to go to the frozen department. Now you get well you can get fresh strawberries here when they are in season.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  And blueberries and raspberries but mostly that stuff frozen. I don't know if getting too much fresh down here other than strawberries.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What bushes or vines will make your skin break out if you touch 'em?
911:  Poison ivy.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Anything else? {NS}
911:  No not that I know of.
Interviewer:  How do you recognize poison ivy?
911:  I wouldn't I don't think I've ever seen any. {NS}
Interviewer:  And you say that's the book that you what me?
911:  Gave me.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay you'd say you have?
911:  Given me that book.
Interviewer:  And at Christmas you you're supposed to what presents?
911:  Give presents.
Interviewer:  And say I'm glad I'm carrying my umbrella cuz we hadn't gone half a block when it?
911:  Started to rain.
Interviewer:  And say if a married woman didn't want to make up her own mind about something she'd say well I have to ask?
911:  My husband.
Interviewer:  And he would say talking about her I have to ask?
911:  My wife.
Interviewer:  Any joking ways to refer to each other?
911:  Oh the old man or the old lady. My better half.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {NS}
911:  Uh. The boss. I guess that's about it. Old man old lady better half those are the most common ones I think.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. A woman who's husband is dead is called a?
911:  Widow. {NS}
Interviewer:  What if he just left her? Then she'd be a?
911:  Divorcee.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear the expression grass widow?
911:  I've heard it but I don't know that is that refer to a woman that's divorced. I don't know.
Interviewer:  Some people use it that way. {D:It's}
911:  Grass widow Seems to me I've heard it but I never used it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And the man who's child you are, he's your?
911:  Father.
Interviewer:  And his wife is your?
911:  Mother.
Interviewer:  And together their your?
911:  Parents.
Interviewer:  What did you call your father?
911:  What did I call my father?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Dad.
Interviewer:  Anything else people call their father?
911:  Pop dad father daddy papa.
Interviewer:  {NS} What about your mother?
911:  Mom mama mother
Interviewer:  And your father's father would be your?
911:  Granddaddy
Interviewer:  And his wife would be your?
911:  Grandmother.
Interviewer:  Anything else you call them?
911:  Grandma grandpa.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} And something on wheels that you could put a baby in {D: and it will lie down} {C:background tapping noise}
911:  Baby carriage?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And you put the baby in the carriage and then you go out and what the baby?
911:  Stroll the baby.
Interviewer:  And if you had two children you might have a son and a?
911:  daughter.
Interviewer:  Or a boy and a?
911:  Girl.
Interviewer:  And if a boy has the same color hair and eyes that his father has and the same shaped nose you'd say that he?
911:  Looks like his daddy.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Any other way of saying that?
911:  {NS} Resembles his father.
Interviewer:  What if he has the same mannerisms and behavior?
911:  {NS} Mm. Just like I guess Say just like his daddy looks like his daddy acts like his daddy.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NW} And you say Bob is five inches taller this year you'd say in one year Bob?
911:  Grew five inches.
Interviewer:  And you'd say he certainly has?
911:  Grown.
Interviewer:  {NS} And {NS} if a woman's looked after three children until their grown you'd say she's
911:  Raised 'em.
Interviewer:  And the child is misbehaving you tell 'em if you do that again your going to get a?
911:  Spanking.
Interviewer:  Anything else? {NW}
911:  Well uh going to get a spanking?
Interviewer:  What if it's harder than that?
911:  Well whipping. I don't like that word for kids though.
Interviewer:  Why not?
911:  I don't know. I just don't believe in taking after 'em too hard. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 What does #
911:  #2 I always # think a whipping to me {NS} a whipping to me just sounds a little harsh I figure if I'm going to whip somebody I either am going to hit 'em pretty hard with my closed hand or I am going to take something and do it you know whip to 'em.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
911:  Spanking to me means just kinda patting 'em on the rear end a little harder than usual just to tell 'em they've been bad.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Yeah I don't go for whipping kids. {NS}
Interviewer:  Say if a if a woman was going to have a baby you'd say that she's?
911:  {NS} Pregnant.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Did people used to use that word much? Or did it sound kinda?
911:  No. No I don't think so. I think that they kinda Are you talking about let's go back a little ways no they wouldn't use that around kids At least not the people I was around. That's just a he- she's expecting or she's uh Mm in a family way that just go around the bush I think it's just same as a lot of words that they use now that they wouldn't use before.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Different way of thinking but I think the word pregnant was just not used so much around {NS} particular around kids old enough to figure out what's going on. I don't know.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
911:  #2 So # I think it's one that they kinda stayed away from some.
Interviewer:  How do you feel about the word now? Would you use it in front of your if you had small children?
911:  Yeah I think I would.
Interviewer:  Any joking ways of saying pregnant?
911:  {NW} {D: You'll have to turn the tape off} {NW} {NS} Um. Joking ways of saying pregnant.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  How joking do you want to get? You want to get crude joking?
Interviewer:  Just every thing you've heard just.
911:  Oh well let's see she's pregnant she's knocked up.
Interviewer:  Does that sound sort of vulgar?
911:  Uh I wouldn't use it referring to a someone you know I wouldn't uh use it referring like to my wife or a friend's wife or #1 somebody or #
911:  #2 Mm-mm. # You know if it was a friend I think it's used in a more like saying well {NS} somebody you don't know or some situation that {NW} that developed that shouldn't have or something #1 like #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  that. You might throw that around a little bit. {NS} Uh. {NS} What else? {NS} Mm. In a kidding way. I don't know if it's. Pregnant? That's not kidding. Uh I guess that's about it. Probably some more go ahead I'll probably know 'em if you say 'em. {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear swallowed a?
911:  Swallowed a watermelon seed.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Yeah I've heard that.
Interviewer:  What about she broke her foot or?
911:  Mm-mm.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear just she's big?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  And a child that's born to a woman that's not married would be called a?
911:  Bastard.
Interviewer:  Any other names for that child? {NS}
911:  Mm I don't know that I'd put the first one on 'em unless I've used you know? {D: I don't think} I'd use that word there talking about somebody I didn't like. I don't think I'd put it on those babies.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
911:  #2 was born # without a daddy. Uh. {NS} Any other words for it?
Interviewer:  Yeah do you ever hear woods colt or {D:bushchild} or?
911:  Oh I've heard, I never, I read it I think it's a woods colt I think I've #1 read in #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
911:  books before I've never used it.
Interviewer:  And your brother's son would be called your?
911:  Nephew.
Interviewer:  And a child who's lost both parents would be a?
911:  Orphan.
Interviewer:  And the person who is supposed to look after the orphan? Would be his legal?
911:  Guardian.
Interviewer:  And do you have a lot of cousins and nephews and nieces around you'd say " This town is full of my"?
911:  Relatives.
Interviewer:  Any other name? {NS}
911:  Kinfolk.
Interviewer:  And you'd say well she has the same family name and she looks a little bit like me but actually we're no?
911:  Kin.
Interviewer:  And somebody who comes into town and nobody has ever seen 'em before? He'd be a?
911:  Stranger. {NS}
Interviewer:  What if he came from a different country?
911:  Foreigner.
Interviewer:  Would you ever use the word foreigner about someone who hadn't come from a different country? But who was a stranger. {NW}
911:  No. I don't think so. You mean from this country but just strange in town? No.
Interviewer:  And a woman who conducts school would be a?
911:  Teacher.
Interviewer:  Any special names for a woman teacher?
911:  {NS} No I don't think so.
Interviewer:  And the name of the mother of Jesus?
911:  Mary.
Interviewer:  And George Washington's wife?
911:  Martha.
Interviewer:  And do you remember a a song the name of the song it started out um "Wait till the sunshines"?
911:  Nellie.
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Nellie.
Interviewer:  And a male #1 goat #
911:  #2 Is that right? #
Interviewer:  Yes.
911:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  A male goat is called a? {NS}
911:  A goat is called a {NS:background noise} um {NS:background noise} I don't know.
Interviewer:  Or a nickname for William.
911:  Oh! Billy goat.
Interviewer:  And the first book in the New Testament in the Bible?
911:  {NW} The first book in the New Testament? I'll just throw 'em all out at you. You tell me which one's right. I don't know. Luke Matthew Mark?
Interviewer:  Okay. And the name of the wife of Abraham?
911:  {NW} The name of the wife of Abraham? I have no idea.
Interviewer:  What are some girls' names that start with an 'S'?
911:  Start with an 'S'?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Sharon Sally Sue.
Interviewer:  Or Sally is a nickname for?
911:  I don't know. Was it I know is it a nickname or something?
Interviewer:  #1 It's #
911:  #2 Sally #
Interviewer:  Sara or
911:  Sara
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Sara.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. {NS} And
911:  I got an Aunt named Sara. Is that Sally that's a nickname for Sara?
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah #
911:  #2 I didn't know that. #
Interviewer:  {NS} Um. Someone nicknamed Bill his full name would be?
911:  William.
Interviewer:  And if your father had a brother and you called him by that full name. You'd call him?
911:  Uncle Bill.
Interviewer:  #1 Or? #
911:  #2 Uncle # William.
Interviewer:  And Kennedy's first name was?
911:  John.
Interviewer:  And if your father had a brother by that name?
911:  Uncle John. {NS}
Interviewer:  And do you remember what they used to call a barrel maker?
911:  A barrel maker? {NS} No.
Interviewer:  And as a family name as a last name you know? Are you familiar with the name Cooper?
911:  Oh Okay. Cooper. Yeah a barrel maker was a Cooper. Okay. I read that. I've never used it. {NS}
Interviewer:  If someone had that last name what would you call a married woman with that last name?
911:  Mrs. Cooper.
Interviewer:  {NS} And say a preacher that's not very well trained. He just short of preaches here and there isn't too good. You'd call him a?
911:  That's not too good that preaches here and there?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Um. Oh come on now. Wait a minute. {NS} Uh not anymore they don't do it I don't think, do they?
Interviewer:  You don't see it too much nowadays.
911:  Uh {NW} Used to go from place to place. {NW} It's Bible something. I don't know.
Interviewer:  What about a carpenter that's not very good at building things?
911:  A sloppy carpenter {NW} A carpenter that's not too good at building things. I don't know.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of a jackleg or
911:  #1 oh jackleg #
Interviewer:  #2 sure #
911:  Yeah. Okay. Is that what the preacher is too?
Interviewer:  Well what do you think of jackleg? {D: What do you think of?}
911:  Jackleg mechanic well they just kinda works off his own someplace and you can takes stuff to him that's not too complicated.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Is it an insult to be called a jackleg?
911:  No. He just not- not a real pro not a real talented in whatever he's doing.
Interviewer:  What about shade tree or yard ax? You ever heard of that?
911:  Shade tree. Shave or shade?
Interviewer:  What?
911:  Shave tree?
Interviewer:  Shade.
911:  Shade tree. Yeah I think so. I guess that would go back to a guy doing his work under the shade of a tree there are like a jackleg. Yeah I guess the jackleg I use that a lot. It just didn't come to mind when you asked me what carpenter that doesn't do things too good. Yeah jackleg fit that.
Interviewer:  What would you call a jackleg what besides a carpenter what would be a jackleg?
911:  Oh mechanic a plumber. Oh. Carpenter mechanic plumber about like that.
Interviewer:  What about a lawyer?
911:  Jackleg. No I don't think I'd put that on somebody like a doctor or a lawyer.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Just be someone who has a a trade or?
911:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  {NS} And what relation would my mother's sister be to me?
911:  Your Aunt.
Interviewer:  {NS} And {NS} you'd say um. What time does the movie?
911:  Start.
Interviewer:  Or another word for that? What time does it?
911:  Begin.
Interviewer:  And you say it must've already?
911:  Started.
Interviewer:  #1 Or must #
911:  #2 Begun. #
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And ten minutes ago it?
911:  Began.
Interviewer:  And say um someone had a question you might say well I don't know the answer you better go what somebody else?
911:  Better go ask somebody else.
Interviewer:  So you'd say so then he what someone else?
911:  Asked somebody else.
Interviewer:  And they'd say your the second person who's?
911:  Asked me.
Interviewer:  And the highest rank in the army?
911:  The general.
Interviewer:  And beneath the general?
911:  Colonel.
Interviewer:  And a person in charge of a ship?
911:  A captain.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear the word captain used in other situations? Like call the man you work for captain?
911:  Oh yeah. Not a whole lot but I've heard it.
Interviewer:  How- how did you hear it used? {NW} {NS}
911:  Captain well um what captain you mean you said other than on of a ship?
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
911:  #2 right? # Well you a captain of a team.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  And you got a team you got to put together where the head man you are going to call 'em captain.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Um. And just kidd- you know about kidding around you might but the work crew or something like that or somebody in charge of something call 'em cap captain.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Slang type. {NS}
Interviewer:  And you say a man on the stage would be an actor a woman would be a?
911:  Actress.
Interviewer:  And if you're born in the United States your nationality is?
911:  American.
Interviewer:  And what a woman who works in an office and does the typing and #1 {X} #
911:  #2 Secretary #
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Secretary.
Interviewer:  And someone who goes to school?
911:  A student.
Interviewer:  And a person who presides over a court?
911:  A judge.
Interviewer:  {NS} And what different terms are there for black people?
911:  For black people. I mean different terms? Good terms and bad terms?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Well there's colored black negro nigger um. With all kinds of different adjectives just put in front of those. Uh. {NW:grunt and or mumbling}
Interviewer:  How do you feel about each each of those words? {C:lots of background tapping} {NS}
911:  Uh. {NS} How do I feel about 'em? I don't have much feeling anything. I think nigger is wrong to call anybody that. I feel it's wrong
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
911:  #2 because # they don't like it. I I mean th- those people have made perfectly clear they don't like to be called niggers.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  For them to call 'em that I think is wrong.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Uh if you tell 'em the the word Uh to me it doesn't mean anything wrong that guy is a nigger well I mean. They take it as an insult. So th
n to me don't call 'em that. It's wrong. I believe in not wanting to step on somebody's toes by like by calling 'em something he doesn't wanna be called. Unless you want to be downright insulting.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Man tells me he wants me to call 'em yeah I'll call that I mean. {NW} Uh.
Interviewer:  Which term do you usually use?
911:  {NS} Which term do I usually use?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  {NW} Colored probably.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Uh. I have I don't know. Find that stuff too much. I guess they gotten to where they like the word black, is that right? Well I- that kinda goes against the grain me maybe that's what they like and that's what they want. Fine I'll call 'em a black man but I re- Uh. I don't ever had paid much attention to the color of anybody's skin or the way he talks.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm #
911:  #2 If he wants # me to call him black I'll call him black. {NW} Colored is kinda the same way. {NW} Uh. Let's not get into a patriotic all American speech here but I just never do pay too much if I like a guy I just don't care what he looks like, what color he is. If I don't like 'em I just don't pay attention to what color is he. {NW}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Oh he is just Joe or Bill or if I have to put a name to 'em like that {NW} I guess it probably be colored or negro. {NW}
Interviewer:  Any joking names you've heard?
911:  {NS} Any joking names I've heard? Yeah jig uh um jig oh. Night-fighter {NW}
Interviewer:  Night-fighter?
911:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Ho- how did they get that name?
911:  {mumbling} Get 'em someplace in the dark close your eyes you can't find 'em. That's what I have always heard. {NW} That's an expression I've heard. Hey look at that bunch of night-fighters over there. {NS} Mean I've popped one on you you've never heard before? I've heard that before call 'em
Interviewer:  #1 Night #
911:  #2 colored #
Interviewer:  Fighters? F-I
911:  N I G H T. Night. Just like after dark.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
911:  #2 Night # fighters. F I G H T E R. Night-fighter. You say he's a heck of a night-fighter he closes his eyes you can't find him in the dark. Only way you find him by the white of his eyes. {NS} Now that may be all wrong now I've heard it.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
911:  #2 before # Now that's the way I've heard it that's the way I've heard it used.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. That's interesting. I've never heard that. What would you call someone of our race? {NS}
911:  {X} I guess if I'm in the part, if I'm in a position where I've got to start differentiating between everybody I guess Anglos or whites
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I mean if I am differentiating between colored man and you I mean he's colored or black and you're white
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NW:grunt} Any other names for white?
911:  Hmm. No I can't think of, whites.
Interviewer:  What about a child that um one parent is colored and another parent is white? Would you have a special name for that child?
911:  {NS} No I don't think so. But I'm sure that there's a lot of joking expressions probably end up I don't think I know that I would necessarily. I'd imagine it would end up being called a half-breed.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} What- What would you call um what have you heard um people call white people that they sort of look down on it. Don't try to do anything for themselves?
911:  White trash.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Any other terms like that?
911:  Poor whites.
Interviewer:  What would colored people call whites like that?
911:  I don't know. I've never been around colored people that much. I suppose they might wouldn't they call 'em white trash?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Do you ever hear the term cracker or?
911:  Georgia cracker or what is it?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Yeah I've heard it.
Interviewer:  What about redneck or?
911:  Well redneck is usually that's a {NS} that's is that a um {NS} a real anti-colored southern gentleman? {NS}
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
911:  #2 Is that what # that is? I've heard it. I don't know exactly I suppose that's what is redneck.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Real prejudice cat mm.
Interviewer:  What about someone here who who works on a ranches and is is involved with {D:is a } ranching and cowboys and {NS} Any special names for that kind of person? {NS}
911:  In charge of it?
Interviewer:  Well just someone who's who's connected with that.
911:  {X}
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Well not a cowboy. {NW:laughs} Wait is that a ranch hand or farmhand or rancher or farmer?
Interviewer:  Do you use the word cowboy around here? I've that around {D: Laredo}
911:  #1 not very much. #
Interviewer:  #2 in places. #
911:  A cowboy means a guy on a horse who is taking care of a bunch of cows.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Uh. We don't have 'em around here.
Interviewer:  {NW} Do you ever hear the term kicker?
911:  Yeah. All kinds of kicker music. {NS}
Interviewer:  What is a kicker now? {NW}
911:  Well it's a little bit vulgar expression if you get right down to it. It's a cattle wear's boots. Cowboy he's a cowboy. He's a Western {NS} Western cat with boots on. He's a {NS} refer to that my impression of it or my understanding of a kicker is {NS} he spends the day working around a ranch or farm where there's lots of different droppings from horses and things and he spends the day kicking around in that stuff. Now that may not be the same everywhere that's the that's...
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {C: odd background noise}
911:  What I've always thought it was.
Interviewer:  It's sort of a, there was a term shitkicker.
911:  There you go. Yeah I was just was a {X} but that's what it is.
Interviewer:  That's what it- it's short for that?
911:  Yeah that's always been my understanding of it.
Interviewer:  Is it an? How do people use the word kicker? Is it joking or?
911:  #1 Eh. #
Interviewer:  #2 insulting or #
911:  Eh eh. Get some of these dudes around here that put on those boots and the blue jeans and a big hat and never been within fifty feet of a horse. {NS} I'd put the word kicker on 'em and I'll mean it as an insult.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Uh. Kicker music when you get into country and western stuff. We call it kicker music. {NW} I'd say it's got a little bit of a {NS} I mean yeah I'd say put a little bit of insult tone to it maybe kinda kid- kind of down cutting down a little bit. Kicker.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What would you call someone who who lives way out in the country and doesn't get into town much and when he does get into town people could just look at 'em and tell that he is from away out in the country?
911:  A hick.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Anything else?
911:  {NW} You might put kicker on him maybe I don't know probably a hick or a oh country coming to town.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Something like that. Probably hick. Country hick.
Interviewer:  Is that insulting or just joking or?
911:  Mm seedy. Seed. {NW: Mumbles} What is it seed? I don't know that one. {NW} Oh. Yeah probably so. I'm sure it is. Yeah I know friends of mine the way we've used it before is some guy dresses up some goes some place and he's got his shirt on that doesn't match his pants. We call him a damn hick.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Uh I think it's implied that a he doesn't know how to behave around people.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about the French people in Louisiana?
911:  Cajuns.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Any other name for them?
911:  Uh Coonass.
Interviewer:  Is that insulting or joking or what?
911:  Well there are two ways to take something like that. It's the way that it's the way it's meant by the person that says it and it's the way it's taken by the person that it is addresses to.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Uh. Most people don't mind being called Cajuns or Coonasses. Um. Then you use it in conversation I guess you're not insulting 'em. If they don't like it and you're putting it on 'em I guess you mean it as an insult I'd say most people around here that use it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Are kind of cutting kinda tryna to like we don't think too much of 'em
Interviewer:  Are there a lot of um Cajuns are working around the the port?
911:  Yeah on the shrimp boat. No I I've heard the word Coonass put on them more than Cajun.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Anything else you've heard 'em called?
911:  No.
Interviewer:  What about the Mexican people? {NS}
911:  A like what about 'em?
Interviewer:  What different names or do people give them?
911:  {NW} Now you talking about Mexicans from the other side of the bridge or this side?
Interviewer:  Both. {NW}
911:  Well. People from outside of the bridge they're Mexicans.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Pure Mexicans. Now there's nothing wrong with that. That's like me calling you an American.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  A person on this side of the river he's an American. Now he's not a Mexican. To me a Mexican is a cat that's a Mexican citizen.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm {C: loud background noise}
911:  If the guy lives on this side of the bridge and don't care what his name is he is an American citizen. He's an American.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  And you get into this foolishness down here tryna to figure out whether he's supposed to call 'em Latin Americans or... or Mexican Americans or and all that foolishness I just never had liked that stuff I just try to avoid it {c: loud noise in background}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Man is American. If he doesn't like it if he's always griping about something and wants to go around here waving the Mexican flag like some of those cats do pack it up and go back across the bridge.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  That's the way I feel about it. {NW} If I have to put a name on it I guess I'd probably call 'em a Latin American but it goes against the grain to use it. I mean but if I had to differentiate between him and a guy named Smith I guess I'd call 'em a Latin American.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  But I that kind of stuff it just doesn't it goes down hard with me. I just don't believe in all that foolishness.
Interviewer:  Are there any insulting names that people give to
911:  #1 I just call 'em #
Interviewer:  #2 Mexicans? #
911:  You can call 'em Spics you can call 'em Mexes Greasers uh Pachucos uh oh spic greaser
Interviewer:  What's a Pachuco?
911:  Well that's a knife carrying long haired hippy acting Mexican. That's what
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Pachuco is. Now he's bad medicine better leave that cat alone.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Usually in the olden days when I was growing up they wore peg pants and a long chain whether it was a Mexicans answer to a zoot suit or you remember the zoot suiters?
Interviewer:  I've heard of that. I'm
911:  #1 with a long #
Interviewer:  #2 not sure #
911:  coats down to their knees and the big lapels and the baggy pants with a peg at the bottom and the long chain they could twist around like that is Pachuco is a Mexican with a duck tail hair cut and a switch-blade in his pant pocket and peg pants and is kinda weird acting. Kind of I don't know just somebody who you don't fool with.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What would you um call someone who's?
911:  Answer to that is that they usually shorten it down to Chuc
Interviewer:  Uh-huh {NS} What about someone who's Well have you ever heard the term Pocho?
911:  Pocho {C: speaking Spanish} I don't think so.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Referring to what?
Interviewer:  To someone who's not able to speak really either language very fluently. Who's not a Mexican American or Latin American or whatever. Who's
911:  Pocho {C: speaking Spanish} I don't think so.
Interviewer:  What about someone who's one parent is Mexican and the parent is American? Any special names for someone like that?
911:  Mm. Now you talking about a Mexican from this side now?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  It wasn't that #1 or #
Interviewer:  #2 I mean uh # Well
911:  A Latin American with an Anglo one Anglo parent and one Latin American.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Or Mexican. {NS} #1 That #
911:  #2 Well # I mean you want to cut the guy down you put half-breed on 'em but I don't know any particular names probably not. {NW} In the old days around here I'm sure there were terms for all that stuff but I think its something that's gradually died with
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Or- or or just not being passed on. I'm sure that there were names for those things cause they had names for everything {NS}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  But nowadays I just people just began to live more and more I think people are beginning to live and let live and I think any name you put on to somebody like that is a cut.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  You know. I mean in the first place its not that guy's fault. {NW} and in the second place if his mother was an Anglo and his father was Latin American but they were happy well that's nobody's business but their own so why put a name on it?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What other names are there for Anglos? Are there any insulting names?
911:  Gringo.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
911:  Uh. Gringo. Anglo gringo... Uh they can say Americano in such a way its more of a cut than any then any of those terms there. {NS} Usually gringo. If they just kind of want to cut at you a little bit they put that gringo out there in such a that you know they cutting at you pretty
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
911:  #2 good. #
Interviewer:  What about the term Chicano? {NW}
911:  Chicano. That I don't know exactly what that's supposed to mean. {NW} That gray picker cat up there you say he think he started that stuff up. We could've without that man that {NS}
Interviewer:  That stuff?
911:  Chavez. That Chicano power and all that stuff. I'm gonna tell you and they, you know I gotta go back now.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  These people were not There never was any I'm American you're Mexican. All this stuff around here. We didn't have any trouble around this place.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Now yes these people were underpaid.
Interviewer:  The migrant workers?
911:  Yeah of course we didn't have migrant workers coming in here. We had migrant workers going that way. Mostly.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  See now. Uh. Most of the migrant, I don't mean. We got 'em here
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
911:  They do the work here and they go somewhere else. Michigan to pick {D:beach} or California to pick grapes or someplace else they migrated usually away from here.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  {X} business up the valley here with something and that's {D: your child that just came in here} Yeah these people were underpaid. Uh they had kinda bad living. Not all 'em now. But some of 'em they had bad living conditions and stuff like that but. {NS} They were not educated enough nor were they able to earn for themselves. They weren't able to do more than pick that cotton
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm #
911:  #2 by # hand and it was a question of economics. You could afford to pay a man so much to pick so much cotton. You wanted to start pushing it up where you had to pay him more than you were gonna get for it. {NS} Well it finally adjusted up to where they were making pretty good.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  And that's all they were able to do and then they got these guys in here like Cesar Chavez that wanted to pay 'em twenty dollars a day for all that which a mans got a right to earn but a man can't afford to pay can't do it. And I- I saw what was coming. They brought in mechanical cotton pickers. So all they did was put maybe eight or nine-thousand people out of of work two months out of the year they were making more money than they ever thought they'd make.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  {D: Well that's stirred it up right?} You don't see any hand-picked cotton around now. Maybe a few. But just here and there pick it with machines now they do all that stuff. Uh so where are these guys that were picking cotton? Where did they end up? End up not working any place cuz they're not able to. The majority are still around here. Or a lot of those people are Mexican citizens anyway. {NW} They get over here and they never bother to get nationalized or anything they just move on over. Sneak across that bridge and they just sit and the first thing they do is draw unemployment and welfare and food stamps and everything else and they belong back over there. {NW}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Now those are the main ones that get up and beat the table when some guy like Cesar Chavez shows up.
Interviewer:  Has he come around here very much?
911:  Well he was up the valley here somewhere stirring up about a What was it they let rot out in the field cuz he wouldn't let 'em go in there and pick it up around far- somewhere. I don't remember what he wouldn't let 'em pick. What was it? {NS} Uh I don't know.
Interviewer:  Is wasn't part of the lettuce?
911:  Yeah there you go. Head of lettuce {X} they just let a bunch of it rot out there. They said {X} I can't afford to pay that much and still make any money cuz in those Gotta remember we went through a period we used to grow lots of vegetables down here just a whole bunch. They don't do it anymore. Cuz the price got to where it wasn't, I saw {NW} many years it cabbage would be up and just beautiful cabbage ready to pick.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  And the price was so low it was going to cost 'em more to get it out there then they could get for it I saw many man run a tracker with a plow and just ditch that stuff up.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
911:  And tear it up. Says I just can't afford to pick it and sell it. {NS} Uh. I don't know. I racial business just I don't know they call it maybe Chicano power and I got a guy I argue with all the time you ever heard of the Raza Unida Party?
Interviewer:  That's a
911:  United race it's a bunch of radical Mexican Americans that want to celebrate Mexican holidays and stuff like that over here and I've told 'em to their face that if they want to celebrate Mexican holidays move back to Mexico.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  They put that stuff on me. I just tell 'em remember the Alamo. Go on about your business. Leave me alone. You're an American. You're in the United States. If you don't like it get out. That's all I can say. {NW} You got a right to protest and all this but don't {NW} come around knocking it and waving Mexican flags and stuff like that and burning American flags at me it gets my dander up.
Interviewer:  {NS} Mm-hmm.
911:  Don't wanna have a Mexican party down here go organize it over there in Mexico. Just You want to protest the way things are being done do it in an orderly fashion. Everybody's got a right but don't come up here just to end up getting somebody hurt getting people busted out of jobs. Everybody got a right to try and better themselves. But not at the expense of somebody else.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Does this organization does it get is it very popular around here?
911:  Raza Unida?
Interviewer:  #1 It's #
911:  #2 Mm-hmm. # a joke. But it's a joke that's going to get serious one of these days. They took over a city up the line here. It wasn't, they weren't calling themselves Raza Unida then uh they may have started by then. {NW} And they took a little town a few hundred two hundred miles up the boarder here and they had a big political campaign they elected the mayor and four commissioners. And just put all them other boys out of office. {NS} And about six or seven months time, time broke. Couldn't pay the employees. {NW} Now that's not taking away. Their just not qualified. Now they don't need to be lead around by their nose but by the same token they got to realize. I can go get five of those guys that are these rebel rising type guy, type guys and make 'em mayor and city commissioner of Brownsville and sink the town.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  That's not fair to the other people living there. That's my point.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  {NW} {X} but and They do it in such a manner by stirring up and when these other cats do get in power the first thing they do is take a big board and hit 'em along side the head so they shut up and behave themselves if they come up there in the proper fashion they'd get heard they are not gonna get stepped on.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Except they do because of the way they come up. {NS} Start trying to make trouble and stuff. Well. I don't know about it just I don't believe in all that foolishness. {NS} I just {NS} I could go on and on about that. We better go on to the next question. That's kind of a {D: thorn in my side} when I grew up around here we just never paid any attention to what the other kid was I {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you used to um well someone I was talking to in Laredo told me that he thought the- the word he was Mexican American whatever you call 'em, he thought the word Chicano was very insulting.
911:  #1 It is. #
Interviewer:  #2 That it meant # sort of a lower class.
911:  #1 Mm yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 Mexican # Did did you grow up hearing it?
911:  Well I never heard that word till about. I never heard the word Chicano. {NW} Till just a few years ago when they started all this highfalutin stuff #1 around here. #
Interviewer:  #2 with the politics? #
911:  Yeah. and the Cesar Chavez type stuff. I don't remember hearing the Chicano when I was growing up. {NS} I sure don't. We're talking about that here year or so I don't remember who it was maybe somebody growing up here with me? In Latin America we couldn't ever remember hearing the word Chicano.
Interviewer:  #1 Would he have #
911:  #2 Was it #
Interviewer:  been insulted if someone had called him a Chicano?
911:  He wouldn't have been insulted if I had called him you damn Chicano after we heard #1 the word. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. #
911:  But he wouldn't take it kindly if some cat came up to him on the street and said well you're nothing but Chicano he would probably raise up.
Interviewer:  {NW}
911:  {NW} Just like I got friends that are Latin Americans.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  and they'll do something dumb or something I mean anything that I might do. Nothing out of the ordinary but mess up something. And I say well you {C: Spanish name?} you nothing but a damn Mexican. And they laugh, they think it's funny. But don't let some stranger come up there and say get out of my way you damn Mexican. He is going to hit him right in the face
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  And it just all in what you are saying and who's saying it.
Interviewer:  Do you think of the word Anglo as meaning the same as white? Or
911:  #1 Well yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 do you think of # Mexicans as being a a separate race or or would- would you?
911:  We're back to like we have to come up with a name to differentiate between a a negro and a white.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
911:  #2 {D:We end up} # black and white or colored and white or negro and white. What do you want to call Mexicans you call 'em browns and us whites? Or tans and whites
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
911:  #2 or # Or brown power they started up here for a while but it didn't last very long. They were walking around with fists up and they were calling it brown power. Lasted about six months. {NW} {NS} Uh. {NS} If we're Anglos and their Mexicans then that I guess it you know we're {NS} Latin Americans and Anglos. I guess we should really call ourselves Anglos. Whites oughta be Anglo-Saxons. That should be a Spanish-American and You know what I mean?
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
911:  #2 {X} # stop I didn't ever worry about {X} {NS} You know if I ever get pinned down when I'm talking to somebody and they ask me well I guess I'd call 'em a Latin American or something
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
911:  #2 like # that. But then likely I'd probably call 'em a Mexican. {NS} If he was an American
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
911:  #2 And # I would mean it a little bit on the insulting side.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
911:  If he's a friend of mine, of which I have many, that live on the South side of that river
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I call 'em a Mexican I don't think {D:its mean}. I'm calling him what he is. Just like he would call me an American.
Interviewer:  Say if it was kinda icy outside and you were walking around and you'd say well. That ice is- is hard to walk on I didn't actually fall down but a couple of times I slipped and I?
911:  Almost fell.
Interviewer:  Or I like to?
911:  like to fall like to fell I don't know. Wait a minute. I almost fell. I like to fell. I guess so I liked to fell.
Interviewer:  So you'd say it begrudgingly?
911:  #1 No. Not too much. #
Interviewer:  #2 Like just? # And someone is waiting for you to get ready so y'all can go somewhere. Calls out and asks if you'll be ready soon. You say I'll be with you in?
911:  I'll be with you in just a minute.
Interviewer:  And you say those children get mad and what?
911:  {NS} Those children get mad?
Interviewer:  They get mad and?
911:  Fight.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And yesterday they?
911:  fought.
Interviewer:  And ever since they were small they had?
911:  been fighting.
Interviewer:  but they #1 had? #
911:  #2 or fought. #
Interviewer:  And you say talking about something you see in your sleep. You'd say this is what I?
911:  Dreamt.
Interviewer:  And often when I go to sleep I?
911:  Dream.
Interviewer:  But I usually can't remember what I had?
911:  Dreamt.
Interviewer:  And you say I dreamt I was falling but just when I was about to hit the ground I?
911:  Woke up.
Interviewer:  And you'd say this part of my head is my?
911:  Forehead.
Interviewer:  And this is my?
911:  Hair.
Interviewer:  And on a man hair here would be a?
911:  Beard.
Interviewer:  And this is my?
911:  Ear.
Interviewer:  Which one?
911:  Left ear.
Interviewer:  And this is?
911:  My right ear.
Interviewer:  And?
911:  My lips.
Interviewer:  Or the whole thing?
911:  My mouth.
Interviewer:  And this is your?
911:  Neck.
Interviewer:  And?
911:  Throat.
Interviewer:  What about the term goozle?
911:  Goozle?
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear that?
911:  Never heard that.
Interviewer:  And you say these are the?
911:  Lips.
Interviewer:  Or?
911:  Teeth.
Interviewer:  And this is one?
911:  Tooth.
Interviewer:  And the flesh around your teeth?
911:  Gum.
Interviewer:  And this is one?
911:  Hand.
Interviewer:  Two?
911:  Hands.
Interviewer:  And this is the?
911:  Palm of my hand.
Interviewer:  This is one?
911:  Fist.
Interviewer:  Two?
911:  Fists.
Interviewer:  And a place where the palms come together? You call a? Joint.
911:  And on a man this part of his body is his?
Interviewer:  Chest. And these are the?
911:  Shoulders.
Interviewer:  And you say this is my?
911:  Leg.
Interviewer:  And one?
911:  Foot.
Interviewer:  And I have two?
911:  Feet.
Interviewer:  And this sensitive bone here?
911:  Funny bone.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And say that if I get down in this position you'd say I?
911:  Squatted.
Interviewer:  Any other way of saying that? {NS} Do you have any
911:  Hunker down
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
911:  #2 there is # another word. I've heard it but I don't think I ever use it. Hunkered? Hunkered. #1 I've #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. #
911:  heard it but I don't use it.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear down on your hunkers or haunches or?
911:  Yeah down on your haunches. I never use it. I've heard those though.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What is your haunches?
911:  I suppose uh I guess it'd be the back part of your legs.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Say if somebody has been sick for a while {NS} you'd say well he's up and about now but he's looks a bit? {NS}
911:  Mm. Sickly.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And someone who's in good shape you'd say he's big and?
911:  Strong.
Interviewer:  What if he is getting a little overweight? You'd say he's?
911:  Well you can say he is getting fat or he's putting on weight.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear people say he's stout or husky?
911:  Yeah both of those stout or husky. {NS}
Interviewer:  #1 Well #
911:  #2 Well # Husky means less of those terms referring to getting fat. Husky to me means more of a guy that's not so much fat as as {NS} pretty big in the arms and chest.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  That'd be husky. I tend to use that less referring to somebody getting overweight. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about stout?
911:  Stout would be if a guy has a little bit of a stomach on 'em I guess.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  That guy is stout. Portly.
Interviewer:  Do you ever use the word stout talking about butter that's turning bad?
911:  Mm-mm.
Interviewer:  {NS} And someone who's always smiling and doesn't lose his temper much you'd say that he's?
911:  Easy-going.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And someone like a teenage boy who's just all arms and legs?
911:  Gangly.
Interviewer:  Okay. What if he's always stumbling or dropping things?
911:  Clumsy.
Interviewer:  And if a person just keeps on doing things that don't make any sense you'd say he's just a plain? {NS}
911:  Idiot.
Interviewer:  Anything else?
911:  Fool.
Interviewer:  How do you feel about the word fool? Does- does it sound really bad to say or very
911:  #1 Mm #
Interviewer:  #2 insulting? #
911:  He's a fool. Well usually when I use it like that I say that man is a fool I mean stupid.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Uh. Usually the term use it like fooling around well there is like
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
911:  So when I ain't got much to do so I'm just sitting there fooling around.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I don't mean that bad. If I use it usually I mean it as pure stupid. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about Spanish words that are insulting like that?
911:  Like stupid? I mean like fool? Mm there's expressions in there you call someone a baboso {C: speaking Spanish}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Now that means that you That's to babos- {C: speaking Spanish} Babos- {C: speaking Spanish} is- is uh saliva, split. So when you put the term baboso {C: Speaking Spanish} on somebody you're picturing you're or you're referring to somebody that's running around with spittle coming down his chin all the time he's a fool, stupid.
Interviewer:  What about the word pen-
911:  Pendejo? {C: speaking Spanish}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Well there's a lot of words. There's a lot of meanings to that a.. Uh. I use it to mean a dummy. He's a pendejo {C: speaking Spanish} he's just pure stupid. And somebody told me one time that the word pendejo {C: speaking Spanish} can also be used or used to be used or is used and this I never use it this way but I've been told {NW} that it also could refer to , you call a guy pendejo {C: speaking Spanish} would mean that his wife is fooling around on 'em. Now I don't know the truth of that. You are
Interviewer:  #1 mm-hmm #
911:  #2 pin # that down on somebody that knows older Spanish around here more than I do.
Interviewer:  If you call someone a pendejo {C: speaking Spanish} would that be? Make him very mad?
911:  Oh I would think so. But here you see, those are expressions we use 'em all the time I use those I use the word expression like pendejo {C:speaking Spanish} and baboso {C:speaking Spanish} a lot.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  with friends of mine that are even are not really bilingual. because then then they know those words.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  We use 'em in a kidding way.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Uh. {NW} Like {NS} I got a lot of friends that are just like I am. We'd rather mess around. We'll mess around. We just don't get serious. {NS} I mean it's gotta be something earth shaking to get us too serious about something. {NW} We call each other those things.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  You do something halfway dumb whether it be on the golf course or any silly thing like you are going to the picture show and you drop your popcorn or something like
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
911:  #2 that. # Pendejo or you baboso {C:speaking Spanish} We use 'em like that. We don't get mad at each other now. {NW} If I was in real getting real uptight with somebody they're almost to the fighting point I don't think I'd put those words on 'em. I'd come out with something in English a whole lot stronger.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  So to me those just kidding around term the way I use 'em.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  I'm sure that they get down {NW} your true Mexicans or your Latin Americans that are really wanting to cut down somebody like we might call 'em a S-O-B they might call 'em a pendejo or baboso {C: speaking Spanish}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} What would you call someone who has a lot of money but but really hangs onto his money?
911:  Tight.
Interviewer:  Or he'd be a? What?
911:  Mm miser.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Anything else?
911:  Penny-pincher or {NS} Uh. {NS} Oh what's the other word? I don't know many more words. I usually come up with tight or stingy.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Not stingy too much. I usually use the word tight. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about an older person who still gets around real well. Does all his work. Doesn't seem to get tired. You'd say for his age he's still awfully?
911:  Mm. Spry
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
911:  #2 probably #
Interviewer:  And say if your children were out later than usual you'd say well I don't guess there's anything wrong but still I can't help but feeling a little?
911:  Concerned.
Interviewer:  Or a little?
911:  Worried.
Interviewer:  Or you wouldn't feel easy about it you'd say you felt?
911:  Uneasy.
Interviewer:  And someone else would say well they'll be home alright just don't.
911:  Worry.
Interviewer:  And a child might say I'm not going to go upstairs in the dark I'm?
911:  {NS} Afraid of the dark?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. So you'd say I don't see why she's afraid now she?
911:  didn't used to be.
Interviewer:  And when you say a person is common what does that mean?
911:  Common?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Oh. Person who's common? {NS} Kinda trashy {NW}
Interviewer:  It's an insulting thing to?
911:  Oh yeah I don't a person who's common. I don't throw that around too easy I just. These other words we've gone over that I told you use in fun and all that like {X} that are really pretty strong words if you use them in a harsh way. Now common to me it just kinda taking down on somebody and his folks and everything else.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NW}
911:  Oh.
Interviewer:  What about if you?
911:  I've heard the word common put in front of the words white-trash.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  It's pure, common white-trash And it to me is getting down there pretty good.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What if you say if a girl was very common? What does that mean?
911:  Mm. Very common. Well probably looks tacky.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
911:  #2 Probably. # Uh. Scroungy looking and and uh. Doesn't know how to talk or doesn't have any manners.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  No you know stuff like that.
Interviewer:  Say someone leaves a lot of money on the table. Goes out and doesn't even bother to lock the door? You'd say he's mighty what with his money?
911:  Free.
Interviewer:  Or?
911:  Mighty loose.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
911:  Or just a damn fool.
Interviewer:  Or just to leave it lying like that? {NW} Where anyone could steal it?
911:  Careless.
Interviewer:  Huh?
911:  Careless.
Interviewer:  And someone who makes up his mind and then you can't argue with 'em?
911:  He's hard headed.
Interviewer:  And someone who you can't joke with without him loosing his temper? Just any little thing.
911:  You can't joke. {NS} Hello. A yeah one oh no she she isn't. No. Well I think she's up the street with a friend of hers. {NS} Mm. No that does not sound right. Who is this? {NS} Am I {X} Hello? {NS} {X} whole time he was talking Um. Okay somebody is what hard headed and you can't joke with 'em?
Interviewer:  Someone who's real sensitive about?
911:  Touchy.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And you'd say well I was just kidding. I didn't know you'd get so.
911:  {NS} You'd get so. {NS} Well {NS}
Interviewer:  Just all of the sudden he got really?
911:  Mad.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And if someone is about to lose their temper you'd tell 'em to just?
911:  Calm down.
Interviewer:  And